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3/28/08 1:21 A

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Well, you look fantastic, and lets face it, longevity is something we have to work at; but like you say, and with a bit of luck, good friends and family (and SP), we can work at getting there and being fit for a long time to come. Cheers, and have a great day!

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Oh my goodness, thank you for the very nice complement! I work hard for it----eating right, and of course excercise, plus being positive in general. I am 55 and I intend to get and stay strong now and when I'm in my 60's, 70's and beyond good Lord willing.

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Hey gang!

You guys all rock. Jon, I got your message and sent one to you in return. Almost any time is good for me. Think we can make this one hardcore and really useful. Really excited about it. Cheers for doing it with me; couldn't do it alone.

Sydney and Rede2looz2, you're both beautiful and I'm really excited about having you two join us.

Again, all are welcome: The Kettlebell Challenge Team will help get us to where we wanna be. Gambate! As they say in Japan, which means Let's go for it and give it our all!

Darren

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Yeah! That sounds great, count me in, too!

CHRIS

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.
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I may not win any marathons or races, but I WILL make it to the finish line.

I have replaced saying "I can't" with "I'll TRY".

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Hey Sidney, I can do that. I have to head off to work in a minute, but later i will check out your post.....or you can jump on the bandwagon with David and i and get our own team running...wadda ya think?

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Lets do it!!! I sent you a sparkmail David....we need to start some brainstorming!!

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Hi Mental Twist, I am using "The Kettlebell Goddess Workout" with Andrea Du Cane. I like it a lot. I wrote a review of it on THE KETTELBELL CHALLENGE Team page under DVD reviews. I hope you will jump in there and give us a few of your ideas too.

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hey all,

I've been chatting up KBs for a while with Jon and everyone, and thought that, for those interested in finding out more, we could start our own team. Feel free to check out The kettlebell Challenge and we can share and learn more from each other.

Cheers! D

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It does seem like you get a good payoff from the KB workouts. What DVD are you using?

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Hi guys,

I am new to kettlebells, but having lots of fun. I just use a 4kg one, and I have ordered another so I will have a pair. My fabulous hubby is teaching me and we are doing a DVD together or just following his program. It is great--the pay off seems to be much greater than the time and effort, which really works for me.




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I know of the book your talking about. I read an article by Ori once i a magazine and it kinda scared me away from his book. In the article he said that you should only eat once a day. He said thats how cavemen did it and that our bodys are really programmed for this type of eating. I wasn't ready to go with one meal a day even if i could eat a ton of food like he says.
Your wife makes sense and that is kinda along the lines of what i was thinking with calorie cycling. I may give it a try. I just see bodybuilders eating these massive meals and it makes my stomach hurt. I may have rejoiced in this thoght, but since i started eating clean foods and watched my portion size, it no longer seems so enticing.

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Hey Jon, Had to ask my wife about this one, as she's tried it out. Basically, she said saw better results going by feel and matching calorie intake by activity day by day. She said it can be hard on the system, throwing the natural function of the organ system a bit out of whack. You can eat the same food; just adjust the portion. Does this make sense?

To be honest, this is the first time I've every thought about calories in this way; my approach to food these last food years has been medicinal, and trying to have a clean body, doing detox, fasting, and eating natural power-foods to minimize acidity in the body. Can't always do it, though; more of a work in progress.

What might be better, is trying traphology, or food combining. Basically, eating flesh and carbs separately. For example, have your meat for lunch, and carbs for dinner. There's more to it, but it might work.

Now, I've been trying to work out the kinks on the Warrior diet and add it to the stuff I've looked at in the past. Only whole and living foods during the day (veggies, salads, oils nuts and seeds, and fruits), and major food in the evening. Took a bit of getting used to, but is working out well now. It's still a trial run, though; but I have noticed that I have fewer and fewer cravings during the day and at night. It's by Ori Hofmekler, and I got it through mention of Pavel. He was a military man and is interested in diet for people who exercise. He's also the dude who gave AOS ideas of exercising with towels (found in one the videos), although he follows a different diet plan.

The setup of the diet is supposed to be one where you burn fat during the day while enzyme loading and helping the body detox, and use the major meal in the evening for daily repairs and building up your body, which then gives you the energy you need for the next day, so there is a cycle involved. I like it because I've noticed I'm much more sensitive to my bodily signals of what type of food to eat next, when to start, and when to stop. The book goes through this type of stuff, and let's you know what to look for. Is this helpful? What have you been doing to date; it looks like you've made some amazing leaps lately.

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David, i'm looking into calorie cycling....have you heard of it? I'm getting confused on calorie intake. I want to lose fat and build muscle....how does this work calorie wise?

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Thank you for the warm welcome! When I was looking on eBay for weights, I saw kettlebells, and purchased one. I will take your advice & check out the Art of Strength vids. I also do regular weights & thought that kb would be a great addition to my routine.

CHRIS

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Hey REDE2LOOZ2
Welcome to the team! We have all agreed that Art of Strength has the best training videos so you should check them out first. Have fun!

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Hey REDE2LOOZ2,

Nice to meet you, and great to have you here. Looking forward to your posts. What kind of KB exercises are you doing at the moment? How did you get into them?

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Hi everyone! I just joined this team & saw this thread on kettlebells. I bookmarked the links, excellent information. I have a 4K kettlebell, I'm a novice, so I will check here periodically for advice and more info

CHRIS

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.
Thomas A. Edison


I may not win any marathons or races, but I WILL make it to the finish line.

I have replaced saying "I can't" with "I'll TRY".

Rome wasn't built in a day, but it CAN be built.

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You could also practice swings with a dumbbell. Its not quite the same, but you can at least get a start on the moves.

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Hey LOVERLYONE,

Again, I agree with Jon, the 15 should be fine, but I'd stay away from the adjustable ones; them seem very messy, and you don't want them coming apart on you when you're doing get-ups, or 200 snatches. The design is really important, otherwise you can risk unnecessary injury and/or discomfort.

About training with yourself--if you have a chance to be with a trainer, even once, it will help for sure, but that doesn't mean you can't play around and pick up what you can before that. Like you mentioned, the time is now; just be safe. It's like learning a new skill, and since you're starting out with a lighter weight, you won't be facing any major problems. Have fun problem solving and figuring things out; but do it sensibly; stick to basic moves (swings and partial get ups); take it slow and practice good breathing techniques when using the bell.

Till your KBs comes, I'd suggest practicing some mobility drills from AOS, or some other source. If you're already doing them that rocks If not and you're not sure what to do, try good morning stretches and facing the wall squats to help with hip flexor mobility and getting your hamstrings ready to go. Try and keep you shinbone perpendicular to the floor as you go down. Visualize sitting back in a chair that's far behind you. Start far from the wall, and slowly inch closer and closer with your feet after each rep or so (watch your head).

Be sure to let us know when you start training and what you're doing with them. Have Fun!!!

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15 lbs. should be fine to at least start basic moves like swings and such. I would probably stay away from the adjustable ones because they look too awkward, but thats just my opinion. Anyway, let us all know when you finally get to play with them.

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thanks for the suggestions, guys!

ive been looking into purchasing KBs and DVDs for months now so im already familiar with AOS. ive gone through most of his videos already (LOL!! kind of goofy since i dont have any KBs). ive asked folks on the ent for their opinions of self training and you guys are the first to suggest that training on my own is ok. im stubborn so i was going to do that eventually :D

i ent ahead and bought a 15lb KB from gofit. i cant wait for it to arrive! ive been prolonging this for TOO long. any who, i hope 15lbs is fine but of course i wont know that till i get it. in the vids on utube, the weights the ladies use range from 10- 25lbs. ive been looking at adjustable ones since i really dont know what weight would be appropriate

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Thanks! Its amazing what photoshop can do for your weight!!!

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Lisa, seeing your conversation with Jon, I was wondering if you got the sparkmail stuff I sent you about teaching in Japan. First time I've used it, so wanted to make sure that you didn't think I was ignoring your question.

Jon, nice new pic for profile!

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Weird. I didn't get any notification that you responded to that thread, and I don't know why you didn't get the sparkmail. Let me check. I don't even remember all of what I'd written!

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Lisa, i responded to the 150 lb. thread, so i saw that....but i didn't get any sparkmail from you??? Can you try to resend it? You have me curious now.

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Hey Jon - I sent you a sparkmail message...did you get it? Also, I replied to you about the 150 lbs. issue you were having. Did you see that?

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I don't know how accurate these are, but still kinda cool. Check out these different body calculators.
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No prob!

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Hey Lisa,

Thanks for posting the website. It looks really kool. Cheers.

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Hey David! How'd you get the job of teaching English over there? How cool is that! Did you have to get ESL certified? Pretty interesting to me. If you don't mind me asking, do they pay you enough to make a comfortable living or does your wife also have to work? How is it being submerged in another culture?

My training sessions aren't all KBs. I have just started using them so maybe that's why I only do a few things with them such as the cleans and snatches. My PT has a website www.a2sports.com. You can go there and see my routines. I don't work out with him every day, but I did last Tuesday & Thursday so if you see those days, that's what I did!! If not, I'll try to remember and let you know!

Ciao for now.

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Mini Goal 2: Lose 5 pounds by 2/15/2014
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Hey everyone,
Hi LOVERLYONE,
I actually agree with Jon on this one, although I would try and keep one thing in mind. I really like the AOS, and if I'd have heard of them earlier and seen how useful the site is, especially with the free videos there that are invaluable, I would have started with them He does have a really good teaching style, and a really good feel. You get the feeling that helping people to improve is a real priority wit him. In fact, his DVD WILL be my next purchase (and wish it would have been my first!). Jon listed the link at the beginning of this thread, but if you need it again, it's artofstrength.com Thanks Jon for sharing such a treasure!!!

The only thing I would caution is looking for the ONE perfect complete DVD or book to show you what to do. Start with one, but when you feel like you want to find something new, I'd encourage trying something new. For me, I gave up my gym membership because I'd rather spend the money on books and DVDs that I can keep, whist training at home. Just a personal choice. At first it seemed strange, spending the money on this or that instructional thing, but now it makes sense, especially because KB exercises and instructors are always evolving techniques and routines. This, I believe, help keeps it fun and interesting, and with my attention span, that's a good thing:) Certified KB instructors put out really good products and everyone has a different teaching style, so you'll get something out of most.

And I do believe you can learn from home, as long as you pay attention and don't push yourself too much too early. I learned reading Enter the Kettelbell and watching videos on youtube. Remember to take your time, and enjoy learning. Use SP and different Forums to chat with people about questionable areas and you sd be fine. The learning curve goes quite quickly, I find, and before you know it, you'll be flying. Excited for you and a bit envious--starting with KBs is such a fun thing to do. Keep us posted!

Lisa,
Glad to see your Love/Hate relationship with KBs is going well:) How was your training session? If you can, would you share your routine that you're doing with your trainer? Might be helpful to see what you guys are doing.

I've bee in Japan for about four years now and teach university students English language and culture. A lot of fun, and ya, the fold-up bike is cool. A Happy Easter to you, too, and to everyone else who enjoys the holiday:).

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Hey Loverlyone,
If you can afford to see a trainer at least to learn the basics, then i would go for it. Otherwise the DVD's will work almost as well. If you go for the DVD's, i would get the ones from Art of Strength.
David i prefer the teaching style of AOS just because Pavel's teachings can be a liitle complicated to me. I got more from the free videos from AOS than i did from Pavels. AOS is just more practical and easier to understand for the new person just starting out.

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Hey David! Shopping IS a good thing...when one can afford it! So you're in Japan? What are you doing in Japan? You don't look Japanese!! A fold-up bike? I didn't know they made those!

As far as kettlebells, I do NOT like them (ha ha ha), but I know they are great strengthening tools. Perhaps I will grow to love them. As for now, they're mean and hurtful! LOL

Don't know if you celebrate Easter, but Happy Easter from America! Are you a teacher also?

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hey guys! thanks for starting this thread

ive looked into taking KB sessions in NYC but they are REALLY pricey. do you guys think it would be ok to start via DVDs (if so which ones) and KBs at home? or should i learn proper technique with an instructor and then go to DVDs?

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Hey Lisa,
Sorry to hear about your car, but as my wife keeps telling me, shopping is always a good thing. I hadn't heard of carmax, though. Don't have a car in Japan--just a fold-up bike and a train pass. I don't know what I'll do when I move back home; just so spoiled with the system here.

Glad to hear about the home KB idea. I love doing it at home, but then again, I don't have a friend to train me. You're lucky that way. Got the feeling you'll be giving me tips soon.

Also, I think you'll find that soon you'll be able to put your own stuff together. If you really like using them, you might think about getting a DVD. My wife got the Kettlebell Goddess Workout. It's good, but not big on the basics. From the previews, however, I think that From Russia With Tuff Love, or the intro DVD at artofstrength wd be a good place to start (anyone else have an opinion?). I really like the style of the AOS, and think my next KB purchase will be from there. I find that once you get the basics down, and a couple examples of how to put routines together, you can do it yourself, share ideas with others, and save money at the end of the day, as you do it yourself.

Good luck with lesson planning--something I have to start thinking seriously about with school starting in a couple of week.

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Thanks! I really wish I had the money and time to work with him 3 times a week, but I just don't. I wanted to get my lesson plans done and go to the gym today but had no time. I ended up having to go buy a new car which took me all day...REALLY. My car had an engine knock and my mechanic said not to put any money into it - just go buy a new one. I went to carmax (you hear of them?) and ended up getting only $3,500 for my car. It was an '03 Chevy Malibu with MANY of the bells and whistles. Still Kelley Blue Book value was at $4,000. With the engine knock I figured 3500 was a good price. I'd probably get $2000 elsewhere. Depreciation sucks! Anyway, I bought an '05 Jeep Liberty. Easier to tote my puppy around in! LOL

So as far as kettlebells - I just might buy an 8k and one lighter one for practice around the house...even for a good workout. I can learn a lot from watching those videos. As far as that girl - it's quite apparent that she is, indeed, very strong - proper form or not, I'd still end up calling the ambulance! LOL

Take care - time to do my lesson plans now!

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Hey Lisa,
Not rambling at all. I think that's my job, anyway:) Having a KB at home is really handy, since you can practice whenever you want. One thing I would try and ask your friend is to emphasis swings for the next little bit. One of the reasons that girl on the artofstrength is so strong is because of her hip snap, which is the foundation of KB training. Once you have that down, the rest becomes much easier, as it gives you a greater sense of timing, and swings are the best way to get there. Then practice high pulls. The cleans is much easier once you have these two down, and the pulling motion is much closer to your body as the bell comes up. Same principle apply to snatches--swings, high pulls, snatches.

But you're right, you will start noticing a difference very early on, even within the next couple of weeks, in your strength and endurance. You might also notice what they call on dragondoor.com the 'What the heck?' factor, which is basically when you notice amazing gains in other areas of your life. You might just be tossing your puppy around with amazing ease before you know it! I think it's awesome that you're doing them, and really hope you keep sharing your input on KBs.

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Hey Jon & David - thank you both for all the great tips, websites, and advice! I appreciate it! I don't think my trainer-friend (who I AM paying by the way only not as much) has anything less than 8 kg kb's. I was tempted to buy some at the sports store this past week, but I figured I'll just keep pushing myself until it's easy! After all, I saw that skinny girl on theartofstrength.com - I can't believe she was lifting an 88 lb. kettlebel. I think somebody would be calling an ambulance on me if I got that thing off the ground! LOL. My dog is 50 lbs. and I remember a time when it was easy to pick her up - then it got a lot harder. I thought she just got fat...but NO, it was I who got weak. Now it's getting easier again so all my training is paying off. I just can't wait to see what happens in the next few months! It's so exciting!

Sorry for rambling.

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Lisa,
I got your joke about bubble wrap; thought it was funny. You're lucky to have a friend help you; I too bruised my wrists at first a bit. I think it's a bit of a rite of passage, but hopefully it doesn't last too long. I got my wife a 4kg to start. If you don't mind spending the extra money, it might be a good idea. That way the learning curve might not be as painful. In fact, I started with an 8kg--the same as you (just to get the moves down)--so I think you might be stronger than me when I started (maybe even now, too)!

Also, to help with the snatches, try then facing the wall, and slowly move closer to it (just make sure it's a wall you don't mind banging:o). It will help keep your elbow in, and get you to roll the bell around your wrist. Remember to keep your wrist straight at all times, too. Great to meet you, by the way. How long have you been on SP? I'm a newbie!

Jon,
I'm partial about it, and remember, it is a personal choice and no one form is better than the other, but for the spiritual aspect and personal development (and again, most modern forms have a spiritual element), I have to go with aikido. I've also done kyudo, Japanese archery, but I don't know how popular it is in the states. I know there are a few good senseis (DeProspero) is one of them, and he has a couple of great books on the subject. Very heavy on spiritual development and personal character.

Like I said, I cd never really hit anyone in a real life situation, so learning how to manipulate my own choices and the other persons actions and reaction, are very necessary. I also like the sense of tradition it has, especially learning the weapons (sword, staff, and knife).

When you go to the dojos, don't feel like you have to participate your first time out; it'd probably be better just to watch (at least that's how it's done in Japan. then if you like it, you join the next time out. If not, no worries, no sense of obligation. Might be useful. Remember, it's your path.).

There are two basic styles of aikido to choose from: Yoshinkan (which is a bit harder) and akikiki (which has more or a spiritual side). That said, it's up to the dojo, in a lot of ways, what kind of aikido is taught, and although there is a basic form, there aikido itself is very fluid, and there are many ways to make the techniques work. At my dojos, each person has a different background and point of emphasis, so whatever style you choose, you're bound to get a bit of everything.

If you have more questions about it, please feel to ask away. The more you ask, the better choice you will make. Cheers (I love this topic maybe more than KBs;)).

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Lisa, here is a link for some forearm/wrist strengthening moves that may help you.
www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jmace11.htm

David, back to the martial arts thing....i'm not looking to compete (at least thats not my goal right now), i'm looking for something more "self" building or spiritual....any recommendations in that category?? I may go looking into dojo's sooner than originally planned....talking about it has made me even more curious about it than before!!

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Hi David! Thanks for the great info! I have a friend who is a certified PT and is training me on using the kettlebells. My wrists are rather weak so while I try, I cannot really control them well on snatches or cleans. Perhaps I'll visit that website & watch some videos. I was just joking about the bubble wrap - I thought it was funny but then I think a lot of things I say are funny....BUT that's just me! Also, I finally did get around to buying 6 inch wristbands, but I just got them. I am using 8 kg kettlebells, and I am weak and small, so they're what I need. I'm 5'2" and 115 lbs....not much muscle yet.

My wrists aren't sore - just the bruised about 3-4 inches below the wrist on the backside...

And yes, your post helped! Thanks much!

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Hey Lisa,
Starting out with KBs can be painful, but it doesn't need to be. What kind of exercises are you doing with them? Do you have an instructor or a good book to explain the techniques? Also, the kind of bell you use can make a differnce; if it's a poor design, then it can be ouchy. The bell should never smack against the back of your wrist on snatches and cleans.

Rather than flipping the bell up and over your wrist, it should come around the side, and as it's coming around, you should be punching your first through the bell to meet it before it hits the back of your arm, like an upppercut. Make sure your elbow stays close to your body and your shoulder is down. The artof strength.com has a lot of videos to watch how to do these moves; or Enter the Kettlebell, or From Russia with Tough Love are a fantastic book that shows the basics. Focus on swings and then practice cleans here and there before attempting any snatches.

It takes a bit of time to get the timing down, so rather than wear bubblewrap, wear wristbands until your feel confident enough to go without them. If that's not the problem are the bells too heavy? Whenever practicing a new technique, I always try and go super light, sometimes even using a 4 or 8 kg bell, and then go to my regular one.

Remember, if you wrists are sore, it inhibits your practice, so don't overdo it; focus on form and timing. KBs are wonderful training partners, and once you get the movements down, you'll no longer have any bruising to worry about:) Hope this helps.

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I just started using kettlebells last week. My arms are all bruised up! :( I definitely need to strengthen my wrists if I am going to handle them properly without bruising myself all up. Either that or maybe I'll bubble wrap myself! LOL

Thanks for the website info!

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Jon,

Glad to see you visited that site; it's a bit of fun. I did karate with my dad when I was a kid. It's a great martial art. My only advise is to make sure the dojo isn't focussed too much on competition, unless that's what you're looking for.

Part of aikido's principle is that anyone can do it against anyone else, so to answer your question, all age groups, weight classes and sexes are mixed in together. Everyone should be able to apply the technique against anyone else, so it's kinda nice. It's really nice to see all age groups there, too; not only do they kick my butt on a regular basis, but they give me hope that I'll be training with as much vitality as they do when I start getting up there.

Cara,
The pushup idea sounds interesting. And I like you ideas on why the gym is a good place to go. Who knows, I might just switch one day.

The only thing I can say about training schedules, about training everyday or not, depends on how you train. Having that sore feeling days after a workout isn't necessarily a good thing; it means that your muscles are all stocked up with lactic acid, which is a form of rigamortis. I really enjoy training everyday, so I try and stay within my limits, altering the intensity and duration of each workout to stave off the lactic buildup. Again, personal preference.

With respect to the pushup stuff, if you try doing the sets this way, you end up doing a greater total number of reps by the end of the week, without pushing yourself to where the burn inhibits training. Once you get to 8 or 9 reps per 6 sets, you add another set (7) and do 6 reps each. You can play around with this and see how it goes. I find it really helpful. Also, using your lats to pull yourself down, and then using your chest to push yourself up helps unify your body, lets you use your core more, improve calorie burn, and get more out of your numbers.

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David, i took the advisor test and it said i should follow karate. I will take your advice and check out some dojos. I'm glad you said you workout with 50 to 70 year old people because i was concerned i was going to end up being the "old man" trying to keep up with 19 and 20 year olds!! Do they mix up age or do they try to usually keep people in similar age classes?

Cara....thanks for the the aikido info. I've been very curious about Muay Thai, but i don't know if there is anywhere around here that teaches that. I will have to look into both.

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Thanks DAVID that's an interesting idea for the pushups. WISH I could do 50 but give it time... One other technique I read about was start with 1 and add one per day until you reach a point where you can't add any more. Apparently the guy started off being able to do about 40 and after 131 days of this method he was still going strong.

One thing I do with chinups is just do an odd one (or currently half of one from 90deg) throughout the day. I want to get up to 100+ pressups so I did try doing that many reps one workout but in multiple sets, the plan was to gradually increase the reps per set each workout, but I only did it once, it was so hard! and wow my chest and tris were so sore for several days! But these were with limited recovery and each set to failure so your method would probably suit me better. So is the plan to do them every day and not have a rest day in between?

The thing I like about gyms is it focusses my mind more on working out, and I tend to work harder/longer if I've paid to be there. It's easier to keep track of time and intensity of cardio & I like the challenge of the rower too. I like the leg machines as it allows me to challenge the muscles without aggravating my knees. And to be honest, when I was stronger I liked showing off a bit! And it was nice that people would come and ask me if I was a dancer or gymnast when they saw me stretching. I like working out with a friend too, although not sure if we actually did much exercise between talking!



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Cara,

That's funny about the pink. I live in Japan where pink is considered a hot colour for both guys and girls, so I take it back--a pink one it is!! Maybe two. Thanks for setting me straight;)

I think it's great to find another aikidoka. I've been training for a while now, and agree with your statements about finding a sensei; makes all the difference.

My training is mostly with kettlebells or bodyweight training right now. I can't stand gyms--get really bored doing sets and spending time there when I cd be outside, at home, or doing anything but being stuck there. Plus, after working with KBs, I can't help but think that a lot of of what the machines and isolation exercises that gyms compel a person to do are very limiting (only my personal opinion. A lot of my friends love doing them, so whatever works). But as a complement for my aikido training, it is the best for helping unify the body and work on relaxed tension.

If you want an interesting experiment to try with your pushups, and if you have the time, try this. calculate the total number of pushups you can do for your personal best at the moment. Say, just for the sake of argument, you do 50. Instead of doing all 50 at once, try doing 10 sets of 5. Do them randomly, whenever you get the chance. If that's too much with work, try augmenting the number of sets, but try and do no less than 6.

Try that for a couple of days and see how you feel. If you're feeling good, at one or two reps to you sets. For example, do 10 sets of 7 throughout the day.

Don't get too gung-ho. Try and do this for a week or two without testing your personal best. Than, after a couple of weeks, I guarantee that your number will go up.

Even if you're just starting out, say and can only do 10. Split the sets to about 6 and do 2 or 3 reps. Then increase the number of reps by one or two a week later. Then, after a couple of weeks, test yourself again. Never go all out when doing the sets--trains the body for failing. If you have any questions about this, let me know. And, if you have another way, let me know, too.

My wife got a bollywood dance DVD that's amazing and a lot of fun. You sd see if you can find one, if you like the bellydancing (she has that one two, but bollywood wins out every time she wants a dance workout). I'm afraid I can't make it work for me--scare the neighbours, even with a pink KB!

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Jon,

I do Aikido, which is all about maintaining your focus, strength and grounding whilst working with the other person's force and strength to take their balance. It is good for self defence and is used by the police force over here (UK). The focus is on pushing yourself hard and challenging your limits (I guess that's true of all MA) and also on developing yourself as a person. It has been hard for me because of my physical and mental limitations(I am terrified of attempting anything I am not good at, and have never been coordinated or good at learning by observation, find any kind of social situations difficult, feel extremely self conscious and exposed wearing anything other than my usual clothes(replacing clothes when they wear out is a nightmare!), hate being off balance/upside down etc etc etc), but I have stuck with it for over a year now, and I'm about to buy a lifetime membership to the club (oneoff payment to cover insurance) as I plan on continuing UFN. Whatever art you choose, the most important thing is the attitude of the Sensei(s) and students and how you feel about training there. My Senseis have been brilliant with supporting me and they are very much about pushing people to their limits where appropriate but with a genuine concern for students' welfare.

David: Why not Pink, Huh? Are you going to perpetuate this stereotype that Pink is only for girls?!! Well?!!

What do I do... well, it varies- used to do mainly machine weights with a bit of anaerobic rowing or aerobic cycling on recumbent bike, I do the occaisional weight workout mostly just a few basic bodyweight exercises and some upper body work with dumbells, fairly short sets with the DBs, sometimes drop sets. Occaisionally extra long sets for an endurance challenge.

At the moment concentrating on getting a higher number of pushups, and getting back to being able to do chin ups (I may still be as strong as I was when I could do several, but I am a lot heavier!) Also working on strengthening traps as they are very prone to injury/spasm. I tend to skip the legs when exercising at home so that's something to work on too! I love weights, but I don't do them as often as I'd like - trying to get over my pathological fear of failure and all or nothing thinking that stops me working out unless I am feeling particularly strong.

I have started doing low impact aerobics at home (DVDs) as I am much more likely to exercise if I don't have to go anywhere, and knowing I can stop when I have had enough without worrying about how to get home if I run out of energy is a definate bonus!)I go to square dancing weekly with my Mum. I tried Salsa dancing which was great fun but the location and day/time it's held is not great for me. And I can't do everything haha.

Bellydance is great, I have a few DVDs which combine this with yoga and have been to some classes too- again it is about practicality, and I prefer a pay as you go option rather than a course, as I never know what my energy levels will be like from week to week and can't be sure of attending every week.

How about you?

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Hey Jon,

Picking a martial art is a pretty personal thing. I'm no expert on the subject, but there are a few things you can do. The best thing I can recommend is visiting as many different styles and dojos as possible. If you you're thinking of doing a traditional art, check out dojos at cultural places in your area; they usually have sensei's that have been certified in their homeland, and have a great sense of the art and the culture that goes with it.

When you visit, see that everyone trusts everyone else; that the sense has control over what people are doing, so no one gets hurt; look at the type of instruction people are getting (lack of, which is sometimes better, depending on their personality and/or level);practicality (funny enough, your chances of falling greatly outweigh your chances of getting into a fight; knowing how to fall is very practical); imagine yourself training there, and see how it feels, and ask yourself if you cd see yourself doing it for the rest of your life. This last point is really important.

Many people I train with are between their 50s-70s and are in fantastic condition. Some styles are a bit hard on the joints, and people end up having to quite after only 10 years or so, or more time recovering from injuries than training--just not smart, and it doesn't make you tuff being hurt all the time. Again, practicality.

Lastly, talk to people about the philosophy behind the arts. Surprisingly, whether or not you're into it at the beginning, it does play a role in the type of person you are and want to become. Part of it is the art itself, the instructors, the members, but all will affect you on many levels, sometimes not showing itself until you least expect it.

For me, it's been an amazing journey, and I'm not that far along in relation to many practitioners. If there's anything else you want to know, just ask; I think you're doing it the right way; many people rush into an art without having a clear image of what they want. Also, try this site for fun, and take the 'Which At? Advisor.' It's a bit of fun!! http://www.fudebakudo.com/ (sorry this is a bit long) :o

Darren

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David,
I don't know what i'm gonna go with yet. I haven't had the chance to talk to anyone about the differences. There are so many choices. I think the closest studios are karate, tai chi, judo, and ju jitsu. Maybe you can give me your experiences with the different styles to help me in my decision?? I want to get my body where i want it first so i won't actually be joining one till next winter or spring, but it is my next goal for sure!!

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Cara,
Thanks so much for the link on painting KBs (no, I don't want to make mine pnk:). I got my brother one for Christmas, and it came with a rubber coating. While the coating made it look good and supposed to help cushion impact on the back of your wrist for when you first start out, it was tearing out his arm hair (yes, he's a bit hairy). In the end, he ended up tearing off the rubber only to find the rest of the KB unpainted underneath, and it looking all not-so-fun. I'm sending your link now. Cheer!!!

And right on with the randoms at the photocopier. When school's in, I usually do pistols between classes. Helps keep me fresh for the next class, and saves time working my legs later in my workouts when I get home. What kind of stuff do you do?

Jon,
I hear you about the seminar stuff. What kind of martial art are you thinking of taking up? I find it's so popular in North America right now, especially the mixed stuff. I've tried a bunch different ones, but in the end, had to go with my temperment; could never really punch anyone or want to break a joint as my only line of defense. That said, they're all a great workout, and I always feel that if you're going to exercise, you might as well learn a skill in the process.

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and here i spent ALL that money to have mine powder coated!!!! emoticon

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Here's what to do if you already have lots of KBs and you don't like black, or want them colour coded, (or here's what to get your Dad/brother/boyfriend to do for you if you're a girl and you can't get your head round lifting something that isn't pink- you could choose a nice bubblegum shade haha) www.paulm.com/inchoate/2005/04/how_t
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:o) CurvyCara "Don't let what you can't do interfere with what you can do" -John Wooden

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David, i am not certified. Like you its hard to find a seminar in my area.....maybe not QUITE as hard, but hard nonetheless! I really am just concentrating on my weight loss right now and then i may join some kind of martial arts class.

Cara, thats cool how you improvised a little workout like that in the middle of the day!! TOO COOL!!!

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I've just realised that the weight I use occaisionally for curls & shoulder presses at work waiting for the photocopier to finish, is almost a kettlebell. It's an old fashioned bulk food scale weight, if that makes sense. It is 5kg which is roughly what's recommended on dragondoor for an out of shape woman, and it has a handle but isn't quite the same shape (it's cuboid with a handle set into it, so kind of a hybrid- hey this might be the next big thing!) When we move offices I might see if I can take it home- it's not in use anymore other than me using it to lift.

:o) CurvyCara "Don't let what you can't do interfere with what you can do" -John Wooden

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ya, Jon, I have, but it's a bit costly, and being in Japan, it's a bit difficult to find a seminar. That said, if there's a chance when I'm home next, if the stars are aligned!

How about yourself? Or are you already? It looks like a great program. Has anyone else done it?

My wife just got her first KB DVD for women (although it's really for both men and women), and it's really hardcore. When it started with the first routine, we both just looked at each other. There's no talking when the instructors are doing the exercises, or bouncing around as if it's no problem. They're going for it, showing great technique and a lot of power. I really like that, because it shows that it's not about genetics, or other exercises that only professionals have time for (although they are very professional); what you see is what you can expect to feel when you're doing it along with the DVD, and as a result, the goals seem that much more achievable. Great stuff.

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Darren

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I have to agree. Kettlebells really get your heartrate going and it does give you alot more functional strength....and it fun as heck!! Its cool because you can do your workout outdoors in the summertime. David, have you ever considered getting RKC certified?? It might be a great challenge for you!

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Hey Jon and everyone,

Thanks for posting this thread. I'm a huge kettlebell freak (not physically huge, just really enjoy what they have to offer:).

I can't really explain why they are so much fun, but they are--perhaps it's the intensity and concentration they demand. No matter how lazy you feel before you start, you soon find yourself really getting into your workout, and within no time, you're spent, but feel fantastic. It's the only training that I've come across that helps with conditioning, strength, flexibility, and power all at the same time. We actually just got a couple of DVDs from Dragondoor this morning!

It's great to see others out there who are interested in and do them.

Thanks also for posting the links, as artofstrength.com was a new one for me, and really helpful. Cheers!


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I am a natural born SICKIC!!! Its in my blood Pappyjazz!!(.....or was that psycic???)

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I too have been thinking about trying out Kettlebells. Perfect timing thanks for reading my mind.

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Not a problem CC. You can also find demonstrations on Youtube. Just search for kettlebells and you should get a good size list on there.

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Jon -

Thanks for posting this!!! I was just talking to another member about kettlebell training the other day. These sites will be very useful - Looking into kettlebells as an alternate to my normal gym workout over the summer while I don't have a gym to go to! I'll definitely be checking it out!

Thanks again!
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Thanks -
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I just thought i would introduce Kettlebells to any of those who don't know about them. They are basically an iron ball with a handle. They are very versatile pieces of equipment. A kettlebell routine can take the place of weightlifting and cardio as it incorporates both. If you are looking to lose bodyfat and tighten up and strengthen your muscle or if your just plain bored with typical workouts, then check out kettlebells....its definitly a different and exhausting workout!! Here are some sites to check out:

www.dragondoor.com/ (this is the original and the most well known kettlebell website)

www.artofstrength.com/ (this is Punch Gyms kettlebell website. It has alot of good videos to watch and good info on strength training in general)

www.gofit.net/ (kettlebells can get expensive, but this site has more reasonable prices than most of the others)

Check it out and let me know what you think??!!

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