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1/4/14 10:28 A

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The cold that is headed our way borders on epic. I hope my poor wee pup's feet don't get frozen! I am snug in my house, and plan to stay that way as much as possible!

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1/2/14 3:18 P

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Storming like a beast - that's what we're supposed to get by the end of the day today...
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1/2/14 1:09 P

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It's storming like a beast out there, but I'm hoping to get the stationary bike put together today. I don't like counting indoor riding, but I think I'm going to do so this winter as it looks like it's going to snow a lot this year.

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1/1/14 9:42 P

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good for you!
I've been away from my bike for almost two weeks and now I'm home to a winter storm warning which will keep me away from wheeled contraptions. That said, when I was in "Traverse City, I saw people in fat snow tires riding through the areas where I was sledding and cross country skiing - I wonder what is the widest tire I can fit through my frame.

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12/29/13 10:59 A

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I actually rode my bike yesterday! Only 6 miles, which felt terrible because I am out of practice and stiff and creaky, but I still got out there!

My mother-in-law bought us a snowblower for Christmas, then joked that it probably means it won't snow for the rest of the winter. I said that if having the snowblower meant my riding season could be start in January, I wasn't going to complain one bit!

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12/13/13 11:15 A

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I have to walk because I have to walk the pup. She hates wearing her jacket, so I gave up for a couple walks, but today I had to stop several times and warm her paws with my hands because she was limping, so I think I just have to subject her to the jacket so she retains more body heat.

I can't even imagine trying to put booties on her! emoticon

And definitely no long, lovely walks to the lake until this weather breaks. It's too far on her cold tootsies, and walking on snow definitely does unhappy things to my hips after a while. So it will be our 3/4 mile around the block for the foreseeable future.

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12/13/13 12:32 A

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Me either. And it's a dry cold here.

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12/12/13 7:32 P

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oh, 12. I dont even like walking in 12 degrees.

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12/11/13 5:04 P

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That is pretty gross!

I debated riding today, but it was only 12 degrees and threatening to snow. I'm brave down to about 20, if it's dry....

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11/30/13 2:47 P

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Oh! emoticon oh, that's terrible! I'm never slipstreaming anyone ever again. Eeeewww!

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11/28/13 10:36 P

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Yuck!

I always check my mirror before I launch a rocket. No one deserves to get hit.

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11/28/13 10:08 A

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Oh, and HillSlug: Last summer I was on my commute and was just passing another cyclist who decided to "clear". Giving her the benefit of a doubt, I don't think she knew I was behind her, and my loud "on your left" didn't register.

The stream of Bad Language when I realized what I'd been hit with, did.

EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

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11/28/13 10:05 A

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That was a great article, Grebjack - thanks for sharing.

I made one chilly weather attempt - when my wheels slid out from under me at the end of our driveway, I rolled my kit back up the hill, went into the house and changed, and drove to work. Rattled, I was. Quite.

I think I'll be here on the couch with Miss G, More cocoa, anyone?

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11/27/13 1:09 P

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LOTS of Kleenex. (I usually just clear out the hana butter (Hawaiian pidgin for "snot") while I'm riding. I don't do it if there are "normal" (people not crazy enough to ride when it's below freezing) people around, though.)

I have to add one thing to the article: if you're not averse to wearing thrift shop clothes, check out thrift shops. With the exception of shorts and almost all my jerseys, much of my cool and cold weather cycling wardrobe has come from thrift stores. My tights are just regular lycra tights, not cycling-specific tights. I almost always wear a base layer (even in summer), and almost all of those liner shirts have come from thrift stores.

And I'm a little sad that I've given up commuting for the season. It's been down into the teens and twenties for tha past week & a half, but what's worse is the fog. I can ride in the 20's, but the freezing fog is a deal-breaker. And we've had a stagnant air warning because of a temperature inversion. I guess my cold came at the right time. Now I'm keepin gmy fingers crossed to be able to commute again by late January.

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My husband and I ride in the winter as long as it's above 32 degrees and not too windy. This isn't commuter riding but fitness riding. We are huge fans of Smart Wool products for our riding needs! The socks keep my feet toasty (layered over nylon knee highs) and Smart Wool makes liner gloves which are thin merino wool and easily layer under cycling gloves. My husband has good cycling jackets but I don't so I just wear my down vest over base layers and cycling jersey....I may look funny but I'm warm! I also use a fleece ear warmer under my helmet. I don't need the full hat cause I have thick hair but my thin haired husband has a thin wicking tobagan with ear flaps that he wears under his helmet. (The head gear is not Smart Wool.) My son, who has done long distance base mile riding in the winter and cyclocross racing in very cold weather, uses Smart Wool arm and knee warmers which are also made of merino wool. He likes them much better than the traditional arm & knee warmers and finds they stay in place much better for him. And, no Smart Wool is not paying me to say any of this...I just like their products and they've worked for us!
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11/27/13 9:59 A

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Well, I rode on three cold days in the last week, two of them rainy and in the lower 40s, one of them dry but only 30 degrees. An ear band under my helmet and a windbreaker over my thermal biking jersey were enough for my upper body, and knit gloves over my biking gloves sufficed for my hands, but my feet were freezing. I think I'm going to look at getting some kind of bootie to wear over my shoes.

Now it's snowing and really chilly, and my biking is going to consist of posting on this team and drinking hot cocoa!

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I love the idea of the long-fingered gloves on the outside! Definitely going to try that one. And you made me chuckle with the "fashion police" remark. When I show up at the courthouse on cool days still dressed in my bike gear, all the security people laugh at me and then cheer me on as I change in the (mercifully, right in the main lobby) restroom.

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The fashion police are looking for me. Pigtails on a woman pushing 50 were enough of an affront, but the snot all over my gloves is criminal.

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Miss G, I don't think you're alone in having that weird claustrophobic feeling. That's the reason I do my layering backward (inside out?) I put full finger glove liners over my short finger gloves, and instead of being all fashionable and having my long sleeve 'baselayer' under my short-sleeve jersey, I put it over, because if/when I get too hot, I have to peel the longies off. And it's really better for everyone if I don't strip completely on the street in order to redress myself.

Thus far, I have not been arrested by the fashion (or actual) police.

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Oh, I do know that dialogue! My ride, when I commute, starts on a slight downhill, so in addition to the regular chill, I pick up a fair amount of speed with very little effort. So that first half mile is always, "Ah, geez, this is miserable. Maybe I didn't dress warmly enough this time. I'm gonna suuufffeeerrr....."

And then I am actually pedaling and fine.

My problems really tend to come from being TOO warm. I can't stand it when my extremities feel hot--for some reason it's like torture to me. So I tend to ride in just my fingerless gloves even when I am initially miserable, because when I put knit gloves on underneath I almost invariably end up stopping somewhere and frantically peeling out of the gloves. And because my hands are sweaty, they are hard to peel, so I get this panicky, claustrophobic feeling in my chest. It's the dumbest thing, but I do. So it's better for me to be a little cold at the beginning.

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9/25/13 12:31 A

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Add in the Cole Porter songbook, and you've just described my internal dialogue during rides.

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Hey, MissG! Nice to see ya. I know you've had a rough patch, lately; I hope your road gets smoother, soon.

I am definitely learning the tricks to starting out colder than is comfortable. The trick seems to be in figuring out how many, and which, layers to pile on. And resisting the impulse to just pile on the warm stuff. If better sense didn't prevail, I would be the gal you've seen pedaling along in a nose to toes puffy coat.

I balance my inclination to pile on warmies against the sensible layering (wicking, warming, windblocking) by tossing an extra fleece hoodie into my pack and promising myself that I can stop and put it on if I am still cold by my two-mile mark (that's about 1/3 of my commute). Of course, that means that my ride takes on the attributes of driving with a toddler in the back seat, as my inner stream of consciousness sounds like this:

"I"M COOOOOOOOOLD! I'm going to freeeeeeeeeze! I wonder if I can calculate the additional wind chill factor added by moving fast when it's already cold out. I can't do that math in my head, but I'm COLD!!!! Am I at 2 miles yet? can I put on the hoodie? Oh, look, the nice crossing guard is stopping traffic for me. {THANKS! HAVEANICEDAY!!!} The trees on this street are so pretty! Was that a flock of turkeys I just passed?!! They're huge (and a little scary). What would I do if they decided to block the path? I wonder if they get deer on the path. Gee, it's getting hot. Oh, look, they added a new B-cycle station! cool! I wonder if people in this neighborhood will use those bikes to commute. Ugh, I need to unzip this jacket. Hey, I'm here! What a lovely day! It's a little chilly, but not too bad..."

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I have an awesome pair of Pearl Izumi lobster claw cycling gloves. I never wear them because they I will never ride in conditions so cold as to warrant them. Grebjack, do you want them?

They're like these, but red, and probably not as fancy because they're older: http://www.pearlizumi.com/publish/content/
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They're just taking up space in my cold weather gear storage. I'd rather they be appreciated by someone who will use them.

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I will definitely second the "always start out a little chilly." If you are comfy and warm when you first get on the bike, you will feel like you're pedaling in a sauna before too long! My most comfortable cold-weather rides are the ones where I start out just a teeny bit miserable for the first mile.

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9/22/13 3:41 P

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Yet!
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Pogies - that's what they're called. Gotta get me some pogies.

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Grebjack, I have a friend who commutes through the WI Winter (Up Nort'!) and he uses those "pogies", but even he wears gloves so his hands aren't on the chilly metal.

I am not that hardcore. (Yet. hee hee!)

60 degree weather today, 11 mph wind in my face. Chilly, but not awful. And I made sure I was a little chilly at the start, so I wasn't overheated at the end. That worked out.

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I need to watch this thread and try out some of the gear suggested. I don't mind a cold core but I find cold hands agonizing and I have yet to find a pair of gloves that is at once dense enough to stop the wind but flexible enough that I can get to my brakes quickly. My husband got these mitt things for his motorcycle that attach over the whole handle and his hands go in, so he's protected from the wind but there's nothing between his hands and the controls. I might try that route.

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THIS: "...if you don't push yourself out of your comfort zone, you'll never learn what you're capable of"

Wise words, my dear.

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9/19/13 12:45 A

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You'll want to be a little chilly at the start of the ride because you'll warm up fast. Stopping to take off a layer will chill you. It's better to slow down a bit (if you can). As with everything else, you'll figure out what works for you.

Another thing to consider is you will learn more by taking risks. I've arrived at work chilled to the bone and thought, "well, that didn't work." Don't put your health at risk (I will not ride after a freezing rain), but if you don't push yourself out of your comfort zone, you'll never learn what you're capable of.




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Oh, Ms Hillslug, you're my hero. I'm going to have to study this - you list so many things that I've thought about and wondered "if I tried, that, could I ride longer into the season?" I may have more questions for you in time, as I consider and study wishlists.

I know I'm probably never going to be a snowbiker (though I know many folks who are). But every year, I push a little further into the cold. And every time I do, I drive the car one less time. It's not much, I know. But still.

Yes. those frosty mornings. Today, I was racing down the trail with Autumn leaves streaming in the sunshine in front of me. Lovely.

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I commute by bike several days a week. I leave my car at the office, so not riding to work in the morning isn't an option. (I can ask the Hubs for a ride if I really need to, and I have co-workers who are also available.) I live in a brush steppe, which has a climate similar to a high desert: hot in the summer, cold in the winter, windy, and an average of 8" of precipitation a year. (I mention this, because what works for me is partially driven by our weather.)

Arm warmers & leg warmers are awesome. They add just enough warmth to shorts and short-sleeved jerseys without the bulk of having to carry home tights. I wear them when temps are between the mid-50's to the 70's.

I have several pairs of tights I wear over my shorts. A couple are cheap lycra leggings you can buy at any discount or departments store. (I bought mine at thrift stores.) I usually wear these when it's between the 40's to the low 60's. When it's below 40, I wear a pair of thermals over the shorts & under the tights.

I also have a pair of cycling tights with Illuminite panels. They make me more visible in the dark, but the Illuminite panels are thin & let a lot of cool air through. I wear these in the 60's. When it's colder, I sometimes wear other tights under these.

I have a cycling jacket with zip-off sleeves. I also have a waterproof but not breathable translucent jacket I rarely wear (once a year). The lighter jacket keeps the wind off, and rain is such a rarity here I rarely mind riding in it.

I have a pair of awesome tights that have stretchy neoprene panels on the front & up the skunk stripe to keep out water, and the rest of fleece. That keeps them breathable. It has to be in the 30's for me to wear those because they're really warm.

Most of the year, I wear a cotton cycling cap under my helmet. I also have a light HeadSweats skull cap that I wear down to the low 50's. I just bought a polypro helmet liner. I imagine I'll be wearing it soon. I wear a fleece neck gaiter. Sometimes I put it under the helmet strap (when it's really cold), sometimes the strap goes under it (when it's in the upper 30's). I don't like having my nose covered, even when it's in the 20's.

I have one awesome Sportwool long-sleeved jersey. I'll also wear long-sleeved thermal tops under short-sleeved jerseys. I also have a wind vest (wind-resistant nylon in the front, mesh in the back) I wear under my jersey. (It's dark blue, and I'd rather my bright jersey be visible.) Because my jersey pockets carry my phone, my supplements, and sometimes breakfast, I tend to stick with jerseys. But I've also worn a ratty old wool sweater over a thermal turtleneck with a wind-resistant jacket when I don't need the extra pockets.

My mom knitted me several pairs of lightweight wool socks. I sometimes wear thin wool ski socks. I have neoprene toe covers and full-on neoprene booties. The nice thing about the booties is that they ensure there's no chilly gap between my tights and my shoes.

I have a great pair of waterproof overmitts. I wear those over regular gloves down into the 40's. It has to be freezing before I can wear full-finger gloves because my hands get too sweaty.

When I'm all covered up, I'm mostly invisible under the pile of clothing. But this stuff all dries quickly, so it's ready to go for the commute home. And riding in on frosty mornings is so beautiful I can't imagine not doing it.

Oh, and when my co-workers complain about having to scrape their windshields, I just give them a puzzled look. emoticon

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Oy! It has started to get chilly on my morning rides (do I hear any cheering for the 42nd parallel?) I need to dig my polypro helmet liner out of the Winter gear box. Somewhere, I have (more expensive than I should have paid) "windstopper" cycling gloves. I'm starting to plan layers for the morning commute, knowing that I'll shed some of those for the ride home. I am fighting the mental battle of "do I really want to ride my bike when it's only 60 or 50 or 45 degrees out?"

I *know* that proper planning, the right attitude, and the right equipment will help. What cold-weather gear comes recommended by the girls gone wild (riding)?

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