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PETALIA
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ZIGWEEGWEE you are so thoughtful. After having electrolyte troubles this month, I've been recommended to stop the potassium rich coconut water and to add a full and balanced electrolyte supplement to my drinking water after hot yoga. Coconut water is delicious but it does not have all that my body needs to replenish itself especially under the rather extreme conditions I put it through. Alas. I'm saying goodbye to regular coconut water and consequentially need to decline your kind offer to share your coconut water kefir grains. I appreciate all the information which you share as well. Thanks so much.



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Petalia, are you still interested?

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Anthea - I hope my inbox messages cleared up your question, which I saw after I'd already responded. I just thought I'd check in and see how you were doing, as well as repeat what I told you for the benefit of any others who might be interested.

There is only one type of water kefir grain. The only difference is the solution they are culturing. I started mine on well water and then experimented with coconut water when I had excess grains. The ones I culture in sugared coconut water are far more prolific than the well water ones and that's why I sent those. If you can't easily get organic coconut water even online (I use a packaged brand), you may certainly use either unsalted spring water (they like that and it's cheap to buy, at least here in the US) or well water with brown sugar and maybe an egg shell thoroughly washed in vinegar for extra minerals. They must have both the added sugar and minerals in order to grow. Tap water often has additives that can't be easily removed, so don't bother with that. They will produce a different-tasting solution for the first few batches because of the coconut water they were raised on (I know this from experience) but then it will become the expected watered-down cola flavor.

I hope it works out well for you. Then you can share with others! :)

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corrected message!
I have just mailed you my address and realise I did not say whether coconut or water grains. I had better stick with water as I don't know from where I can get coconut water easily. I have seen tinned but that would presumably have been treated and therefore "dead" don't you think?


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Just to let everyone know that Zigweegwee has posted images of her water kefir grains in our photo albums- follow the link under the team stream on the right. :)

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Anthea, you don't even need a dehydrator to dry them out - just laying them out on an unbleached paper towel for a few days does the trick. I have a batch sitting out right now. If you're sincerely interested, inbox me your address. I'll dry out a second batch (they shrink to practically nothing so I'd feel more comfortable sending more) and wrap them up. And, being mostly unemployed, I would absolutely appreciate postage reimbursement. Do you have a Paypal account? I think that works internationally.

Petalia, let me know when you're going to be around. I can probably send you fresh grains since you would receive them in just a few days. I got mine that way and they cost me less than $12 including the shipping. Kefir is way simple to ferment or else I probably would have given up by now, lol.

Just remember the cardinal rules: NO chlorinated/chloraminated or otherwise contaminated water (I only learned about chloraminated water when I checked my local water company's website - nasty stuff!! At least you know with well water, spring water or organic coconut water there's no danger of those things), NO metal, NO detergent, no forgetting to "burp" the bottles if they're capped tightly. Forgetting that last one can cause a terrible mess, I'm told. I received unfortunate confirmation of this from the one friend I share my kefir with (the finished product, not the grains) who accidentally left her bottles in her hot car for an afternoon...

Water needs added minerals to keep the grains healthy. Spring water usually has some as does well water, so I just add brown sugar to feed them and that's all. You can add molasses and organic sugar if you don't want to use brown sugar. Coconut water is already packed with minerals so my secret to successful coconut water kefir is adding some organic sugar to it, otherwise the grains starve and disintegrate. :( I recently heard that coconut crystals work well, too, but I haven't looked into that. Depending on how long you ferment it, the coconut water version can be incredibly sour so you can be confident of a minimal sugar content in the finished product.

Let me know if you'd prefer the grains fermented in well water or coconut water. They're the same grains, just "raised" differently. And there will be a period of adjustment to their new environments, anyway.

Hooray - I'm so happy I can finally share these things!

Edited by: ZIGWEEGWEE at: 4/22/2013 (12:53)
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4/19/13 4:06 P

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Golly ZIGWEEGWEE, I'm interested in your coconut water kefir grains. And, I live in the US, in New England. I've been wanting to try fermenting water kefir for some years now but I haven't. I drink 2 cups of coconut water 5x/week. It's way better than water after sweating buckets from hot yoga. Hmm....suddenly water kefir doesn't seem like an extra or a luxury anymore. I'll be traveling until early May. If next month you continue to have an abundance of grains and would like to share, I would be most interested and would of course pay the postage.



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Do you have a dehydrator or method of doing this? I have heard you can keep milk grains dehydrated so maybe it might work. Are you anywhere near a post office? Perhaps wrapped in some kitchen paper in a jiffy or similar bag thy would make the journey... I'd pay any postage of course ... do you think it worth a try?
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Too bad I'm in the US - my coconut water kefir grains are insanely productive now that spring is finally here and no one I know wants any. I was thinking about asking my local health food stores if they'd be interested in letting me post flyers.

I wonder if I dehydrated them they would survive the trip overseas. I can't afford to travel but maybe I can send my kefir. emoticon

Edited by: ZIGWEEGWEE at: 4/19/2013 (10:11)
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Thanks Paul, i'll give it a go.
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Anthea, try the Facebook group I linked to on an earlier thread. Not sure if there's anyone in the UK, but worth a try. :)

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I am so glad you brought this thread back to the front of the list as I would like to have another go at the coconut kefir and this time I will not use the milk grains but try and get some water ones.


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Nothing is old on these pages, Zig, just 'rested' and waiting to be resurrected!

I've yet to try water kefir- finding people that ferment foods at all is proving difficult around here!

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I know this is an old thread but I'm posting just in case someone else is looking here for info.

In general, milk kefir grains are only happy when culturing animal milk. Coconut milk is a hit-or-miss proposition. Water kefir grains might culture coconut milk but they definitely will culture coconut water as long as some extra raw sugar is added. Pure organic coconut water often doesn't have enough sugar in it to feed the grains, but stir in some sugar and they multiply like crazy - even faster than my well water/brown sugar culture. It is *extremely* sour, though, and has very little, if any, coconut flavor.

I bought my original organic water kefir grains from an American Amazon seller, StraddleCreek567, and he branded the grains Keysands. They were in great condition and the seller was extremely helpful as far as instructions, information and answered questions.

Hope everyone's cultures are working out a year later! :)

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Try Dom's Kefir site- he has everything!
users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.htm
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This should probably be on another thread but today I decided to wash my jar and the kefir grains and will put it into the fridge tonight so it has only been at room temperature for 10 hours. I read in one of the many links I've been reading that the sourness comes from the lactic acid being produced too quickly thereby weakening the yeast action - or something like that. Trouble is I can no longer find the link!




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I've always believed the sourness of milk kefir is related to the length of time the milk is left to ferment- if I stop mine before it separates I find it is less sour- I used to strain off the whey, but realised I was losing some of the goodness the kefir grains impart to the milk.

Saying that, I put all of my kefir into a fruit and nut smoothie so couldn't tell you how sour it actually is!

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I did get a delicious drink out of it which I mixed with tropical fruit juice and I have now repeated the experiment. The only trouble is there is a thick layer of creamy coconut at the bottom of the jar and I wonder if this rather gums up the kefir grains. There was a strong taste of coconut in the liquid which was just slightly sour. Indeed a lot less sour than my regular milk kefir. (I would love to know how to make that less sour and ore creamy if anyone can help on that).

Any hints on what is best to do would be very welcome.



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I just started a coconut kefir as I had some excess milk kefir grains and thought I'd give it a try. I didn't have a tin of Coconut water or milk but did have a sachet which said it was 100% coconut so I mixed that with some warm filtered water. It is at room temperature and after 36 hours it still smells of coconut but is quite sour. The grains are certainly growing but whether they are happy or just swelling up in indignation I don't know. The instruction said to leave it for 48 hours so I'll let you know what happens tomorrow. I'll try and put a picture on.


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I finally gave the coconut water kefir a try and the kefir grains loved the stuff. They definitely multiplied in number too. However, the taste is very potent compared to regular water kefir and it wasn't as "coconuty" as I thought it would be, but it's still very good.

My DS drinks the stuff up and his favorite way to drink it is 1 part grape juice to 3 parts water kefir. It makes a nice bubbly juice drink. Be sure to add the juice after you've separated the water kefir from the grains.



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That's what we're here for!

Let us know your progress: I must admit I'm curious to find out how different the water kefir is to the milk kefir. I'll add it to my forever growing 'to make' list!

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I've been making regular water kefir for sometime now and have been really curious about trying coconut water kefir so thanks for the helpful links. It's definitely next on my to make list.



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Actually, Paul's link has two further links within the article about making coconut water kefir in specific www.thenourishinggourmet.com/2009/03/cocon
ut-kefirs-health-benefits.html
and bodyecology.com/articles/mcoconutkefir.php




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I made coconut WATER kefir. Used a can of coconut water from the health food store.

"The coconut water should have turned a cloudy white, having become a probiotic-rich kefir. It should taste somewhat intense, with a little bit of sweetness left and a little bit of vinegar flavor present"

I found that here: ediblegoddess.com/2011/04/coconut-water-ke
fir/


I tried it last night. Delicious! I think I'm headed out to buy more coconut water!

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Thanks for posting that link. It was so informative. After reading the article, I'm going to have another go at coconut milk kefir making. Thanks again.



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Sorry, can't help here! Try this website- www.passionatehomemaking.com/2010/03/how-t
o-make-coconut-milk-kefir.html
There may be something here- I'll keep looking!

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It's been on my counter for almost 48 hours. It appears that my grains have multiplied - good, but there's a 'scum' forming on the top. Should this happen? It smells fermented, not over powering.

Any help is appreciated. This is my first time with the kefir.

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