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June, That hike sounds challenging with crampons, altitude, wind, snow, etc. Being outside like that with beautiful views and good friends sounds amazing. Has to help your fitness, too. If you don't mind I'd love to know your strength training routine. Did you get it from SP or a personal trainer or ?? Glad to read that you don't stress out as much about races any more. I aspire to be there. Seems like I'm always 10 times more nervous than I should be at the start. Doing a tri relay with friends sounds like a lot of fun, too.

I'm going to run in my neighborhood in about an hour. We have one good hill that I'm going to do several times. My next HM in Orlando is in 12 days. A week after that I'm probably going to go see my niece and nephew run a 10K one town over (Winter Haven), but I'll still be recovering from HM and will skip it. I'm thinking of doing the one mile dog walk/run race just to do something a little different. After that I have no races planned. There is a trail HM in my home town on Feb 7. Hubby really has no interest in going with me to races, so local ones have appeal. Think I'll go check out the location -- it is a new park and I've never been there. I've heard there are lots of hills, which wouldn't stop me, but I worry about tripping hazards. Love, love, love to run, but just have to quit falling. I have run and walked the Senior Games 5K the last 4 years and I could run the 200, 400, 800 meter events. I'll think about it.

If I decide against the trail HM I may take a running break and really focus on strength training for a while. Seems like every time I try to bring down my body fat percentage I end up with injuries. I haven't had good luck with personal trainers, but maybe this time --

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Wow Seabreeze, you are already back. I was going to send you a goodie for you to discover on your return. Glad you had a great time. I have never been on a cruise, good thing there is lots of entertainment, I would have been disappointed to not be able to disembark at Cozumel, snorkelling there is on my list of things to do in the near future (5 years)

Yay Catherine for the spring back in your step and the fun back in your run!! There is lots of time to do a lot of different kinds of running and the variety is amazing and interesting I find. After all, you are planning to run until you are at least 100. Me too.

Marsha, great to hear your joy in running too.

Jayne, hope to see you back, don't rush, enjoy and listen to your body.

Dee, a Florida vacation with family sounds wonderful!!

Monty, yay for feeling better and thanks always for your enthusiasm on this thread and everywhere you are.

Trill, always great to see you pop in with words of experience. I am thinking about the neck gaitor, also would be nice for hiking when we go above the snowline and it is windy.

Hope you get your run in Lynn

Sharon, great you have a 5k close up and an April HM as a longer term goal.

This week was the first week hiking above the snow line, winter is advancing down the elevations lol. We did a 5-hour, 7-mile hike, about half of it on snow and ice, so using crampons on our hiking boots. The views were stupendous. I have been doing a 4-6 hour hike every other week, and on the hiking week I run 2x instead of 3x. This week I only did 1/3 ST workouts. I feel worse, more guilty, when I miss ST than when I miss runs, because at this stage I need the STs more, they are contributing more to my fitness. I have had a few months of very regular ST workouts, one weak week, I plan to bounce back next week.

My next formal race is a triathlon in March, I am hoping to do the running leg of a relay tri with 2 other friends, a sprint distance ( swim-750m...bike-20k...run-5k), so Joyce will swim, Ramona will bike and I will run. We are thinking of naming our team the Just Want to Finish, or WTF for short. Not sure yet. Those competitive dynamics engage so fast and Joyce and Ramona are wondering if they will be fast enough, I just want to finish and have fun. But I know how they feel, I have done quite a few races in the last few years and so am calmer than I used to be for sure.

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Hi everyone!

We got off the ship earlier today. We had a great time, but, as always, I am glad to be home again.

The Royal Caribbean ship was filled with activities all day long, if you are so inclined. We tend to make sure we EAT all 3 meals (a priority). Every evening there was some kind of entertainment and then dancing. We went on one excursion. We had another reserved, but the ship could not dock in Cozumel because of high winds. Many onboard were not feeling very good and stayed in their rooms until the front moved through. DH and I felt good… so were lucky we did not miss a meal.

We went to see the entertainment every night and then stopped by the main bar area and danced. We never dance anymore, and so it was very fun. I had my photo taken and will post it somewhere – FB or Spark….

I did check out how much unlimited internet access was and it was almost $300.00 for the week. It is good to be internet free…. and yet so many people bought a partial of full package.

I did not exercise much as all, but I did get some kind of daily stairs badge on FitBit!!!! Tomorrow is another day.

Will check back in tomorrow and try to catch up.....

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Interesting, I'll check it out. Thanks!

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Catherine, I found the reference to the product in her (ONEKIDSMOM) Nov 8th blog. It is called Hot Hands. I googled it and saw it for $1.29 for one or ten for $6.00. I'm thinking it is a disposable glove-like product worn under gloves. I didn't find an explanation of what it is. Hope that helps you! You have helped me so often. -Marsha

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Good afternoon everyone.

Jayne, I'm sorry to hear that you've been having issues. I hope that a running break pays dividends for you.

Marsha, advice on keeping hands warm during a cold run would be very welcome. Thanks!

The promised storms have finally arrived. Fortunately the worst of them went just to the east of us. It has been raining steadily for several hours now in light to heavy waves. I keep thinking it is over and then another harder wave hits. It is not very cold -- mid 60s. I think there is cooler, dryer weather coming behind the storms. Next week is supposed to be clear and nice. I just heard some rumblings, so another wave must be on its way. It was starting to get lighter (visually), but that didn't last long.

I did get my run in this morning (just) before the rain started. That makes 6 days in a row of at least 30 minutes of running. My current goal is 30 to 60 minutes a day for short runs and one long run of 90 minutes to 2 hours.

I think I have mentioned that I feel better when I run almost every day, even if the runs are all short and easy. I am a little suprised at how quickly I've seen the benefits in the past ten days or so. My mood has improved, my GI tract is much happier and I am sleeping more with a better quality of sleep, i.e. falling asleep quickly, staying sleep all night and feeling rested when I wake up.
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Catherine, Your varying temperatures sound a lot like it is here in Florida, too. I remember a 10K I did in 2011 that was 32 degrees at the beginning. I'd never run in cold because I always waited until noon or later on cold days. Now I try to get experience in all our weather conditions. At least in the summer/late spring/early fall I know to dress for heat and I'm used to that. I did read on ONEKIDSMOM blog a week or so ago about some product she uses with gloves to keep her hands warm. If you are interested and can't find it, I'll look or ask her. She's running a Turkey Trot HM on Thanksgiving Day that will be 30 degrees or less at the beginning and I know she'll be prepared.

I ran 10.5 miles today. Orlando HM is two weeks from today. I possibly should have run longer, but I don't think it will be a problem. I finished very strong feeling like I could have gone on indefinitely. I met my group at 7am (after sunrise) an hour after they started. We ran 5.5 and then I ran 5 more by myself. A lot of it we ran in drizzle, but it was in the low 60s so it wasn't too uncomfortable. When it started really raining hard when I was running on my own I went to the treadmill. Probably would have run longer but 1) I wanted to get to meet my nephew at 10am Weight Watchers 2) there were a lot of people at the gym waiting for treadmills due to the rain and 3) I have a bloody sore spot on my left foot that was bothering me a bit -- I expect it to heal well before the HM especially if I don't make it worse. I enjoyed every step of my run today. It was great to run with my group some after 7 weeks of running on my own.



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I haven't been active on this team for quite a while, but I didn't want to leave without saying so long. I've been having some issues with my feet, ankles, and left leg so I've decided to take a serious break from running. I hope to be back sometime within the next year.

See you later folks!

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D & I, both Mexican Aficionados, love....

El Charro 916 Florida Ave, Cocoa, FL 32922 (321) 639-1004
Owned by a Cuban family who rock Mexican fresh. They make everything fresh, including their tortillas & taco shells, in-house!

Want to have breakfast in Cocoa Beach?

Pelican Flats (formally The Big Biscuit!)
695 N Atlantic Ave Cocoa Beach, FL 32931 (321) 613-3995
Breakfast can only be justified by doing it Post-Marathon! It's a hash slingers paradise with biscuits at least 4 inches in diameter! 3 of us split a biscuit!

The race site is in Cocoa Village. two block west is the street where the race is started from.Those two blocks have lots of little shops, cafes, and restaurants to choose from.

This Yelp link might help!
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Good morning, everyone.

We don't have terribly cold winters, but one of the challenges for a runner (imho) is the suddenness of the temperature drops (and climbs). It is not unusual for us to go from 70 to 40 in 24 hours and often from 70 to 50 for a few days. And it's that "for a few days" that can be especially challenging. It would be one thing if, once winter arrived, the temperatures stayed at relatively winter temps. But it's normal for us to alternate between winter and spring like temps. Which makes it tempting to "wait the cold weather out" rather than run in it. Very disruptive, mentally.

I don't find cold weather (into the 20's even) that bad to run in as long as I dress properly and it is not windy. Windy is more challenging to me. I think partly because I still haven't quite figured out the best way to dress for it. If it is extremely windy, temps don't matter. I go to the gym.

One of the 45 degree days last week was mildly windy and I experimented with dress for it. I recently ordered a polar fleece vest with a wind block lining from LL Bean. Not to run in but to wear as my normal outer wear during chilly days. I decided to try it for the run. I wore just a jogging bra underneath, although if I do it again, I'll wear a compression singlet (to allow me to remove the vest if I get hot). I wore compression sleeves to cover my arms but leave my shoulders bare (for some reason, I get hotter when my shoulders are covered). Since the vest has a fairly large armhole, that allowed for ventilation. I also wore a hat, ear covers, gloves and long pants (the latter is also unusual for me).

This combination worked pretty well for me. The vest definitely blocked the wind, so if I lived in a colder climate, I think I would look for running vest that had some element of wind block in it. Had it not been windy, the vest would have been too warm, and as it was I unzipped it almost all the way down about halfway into the run (after about 2 miles). I'm always surprised at how warm I get once I've run a mile or two, even at easy paces.

The exception to this is my hands. That is my biggest problem area and I still haven't quite solved the glove choice when it is really cold. I have a pair of Nike runner's gloves that works for most conditions here. But my hands are a problem when temps dip below 40. I saw some polar tech gloves in a recent catalog. I may try them. I like this type of fleece because it sheds water and it breathes while being warm. These were also advertized as being very light weight. I don't like bulky gloves as it makes eating gels and drinking from my flask challenging. I would probably have to take a fleece glove off to open a gel. I remember running a HM several years ago during which my hands (even gloved) got so cold that I had trouble opening packages. That was before I was using gels exclusively.

Looks like our Thanksgiving day will be different this year. Instead of running the Turkey Trot in the morning, we will be going to the UT-TCU football game that evening. We've lived in Austin for 40 years and have never gone to a game (tickets are hard to get and expensive too!) I'm not a big UT football fan, but DH is and since my trainer is working the game, he can get tickets. So we'll be going. Parking is always a problem (the stadium holds 100,000 people). I was talking to a friend last night about it and he offered to let us park in front of his house. He lives about a 30 minute walk from the stadium. So we will get our exercise despite skipping the race in the morning. Assuming the weather cooperates, of course.

Speaking of weather, the computer models all show that a big rain storm is headed our way tomorrow. All agree that we will get several inches and one says up to 10 inches. I hope that one is wrong.
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Cindy, my family is spending a week at Cape Canaveral. The colder weather earlier in the week (it's all relative) is great for a race, not so much for a vacation. emoticon It will be what it will be.

I have 7 hours to finish, so not exactly an issue. But the plantar fasciitis may cause me to not finish, which would be a shame because I'm pacing a friend.

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So glad you are enjoying your running. One thing Jeff once said was not to turn your running into work.

Can't believe it was just early August when I really thought I could run the San Antonio half and visit my daughter and one of the St Louis halfs in Oct/Nov with my other daughter and the Phillly half. Things have not gone well and timing of the severe knee stuff has kept me from doing a none race visit. Not really clear what the issue is/was, but I can walk now.

Oh and back to what to do in cold weather. One of my favorite pieces of clothes is a fleece neck gaiter. Its hard to keep your neck warm without it and on a really cold day you can pull it up and cover your mouth and checks.

Monty, good to hear your shoes felt good.

Lynn, I agree these temperatures feel worse in November and make me feel nervous about January, and we are much warmer than you.

Sharon, The gobbler run should be fun.

Marsha, I was surprised that my dog got much better just by running a lot with me. A one mile run with your dog could be fun. Enjoy the taper for your race.

Dee, What are you not liking about the temperatures. And is it the race or the general visit that has you worried. What is the time limit for the Space Coast. How much running are you going to need to do?



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Monty, thanks for the links to your blogs. Just loved them. Anyplace special I should eat in Cocoa? We're there for a week!

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Did Run Club last night, tested out my new Transcends, had a cautious safe run, and really loved the ride. I actually had to get used to them but after I finished that 5K, I was rockin' it! (Oh the temp was around 56 degrees, which made for an easy run!)
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Hi back, Sharon...

DEE: What are the temps in FL? Have a friend who just went to Orlando for a few days. Anything has to be nicer than here (except for the poor Buffalo, NY folks! No one has it worse than them right now. NO ONE! Ugh!). Another low to mid 20s with wind. At least the sun was shining and it "LOOKED" nice. But it was deceiving. You went outside expecting warmth and got frigid, painful temps. Honestly, I think this weather is more tolerable in January here. I've never really complained this much of 20s something weather before b/c it was where it belonged...IN JANUARY! It was just a bit over a week ago we were enjoying mid 60s! No time to adjust!

Couldn't bring myself to run this cold week. Hoping to squeeze one in on Sat when it's in the 40s. Low 50s on Sun, but RAIN. So....I will have to deal with a long, long winter.

End of March....we go to Santa Ana Island is FL. Looked to see if there was a race around but didn't find anything. Excited to be in the tropics after a LONG winter. :)

Stay warm peeps!

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Hi all!

Just stopping by to say Hi! The weather here in NC has been very cold. My running has been a little sporadic the past month. I did go with a friend today to her fitness center and ran 2.5 miles on treadmill. Hopefully I will have time to go shopping this weekend for a running winter jacket and hat.
We had temps below 20 degrees. Well, being from Safety Harbor, FL I am not use to temps below 53 degrees. More cold weather on the way by the weekend.

I am running a 5 K Gobblers Run and today I signed up for the Rock N Roll Half Marathon in April for next year.

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It's 3pm and the weather has warmed up pretty nicely here. I was playing - some running -- with my grandkids just a minute ago without a jacket and it felt great. I don't count these little bits of running. On taper week I keep it to a minimum if at all.

Yesterday I ran quarter mile repeats at my half marathon goal pace. Don't know if my niece will be up to that speed or not on Dec 6th, but I want to be ready. She originally didn't think she'd get to take the boot off until Dec 4th, but now she is planning to try a run on Saturday without. If she has 2 weeks of good training, I think she'll be pushing me. Hope to keep up!

I'm planning on joining my Galloway group on Saturday after sunrise and then finish my long run on my own. Hope that works out. Last long run until HM.

My niece and nephew are running a 5K and a 10K in December. Not sure I will. The 10K event also has a "one mile dog walk" although the winners always run. I might just do that to do something different. The dog (German Shepherd - lab mix) is getting better at running with me!

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It's a balmy 54 degrees on the beach here in Dunedin this morning! The high will be 66 and 59 at 6:30pm for Run Club!
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Tonight will be my first run in 2 weeks since my body acted goofy! In that time, I went back to my "Shoe Whisperer," got an updated analysis, and found that I would be leaving my ASICS wheels on the sideline, replacing them with the Brooks Transcend! I'm going to do a modified interval jog, focusing on my posture, & becoming one with my Transcends!.
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Dee, it was 45 degrees just prior to race time when I did Space Coast. I layered! Here are my reports from Space Coast 2012...

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To this day, it's my fave Half. The Marathon goes North on the Indian River for 13.1 then south for the last Half. Gorgeous!
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Y'all be careful out there in the cold!
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Not liking what I'm reading about FL temps: I'm spending the week at Cocoa Beach next week. On the other hand, temps should be good for the Space Coast Marathon, if I'm up to running it.

Jeff Galloway advises to walk until then, no running. Honestly, if it's not one thing it's another!

Catherine, so glad that running is joyful again.

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Lynn, the Turkey Trot here is a 5 mile race.

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ANN.... LOL...Loved your scale story. Congrats on your 3 lb loss!

CATHERINE....You sound like you are on a good plan. Best wishes on your upcoming half...and perhaps the Turkey Trot. Would that be a 5K?

Some family and friends of mine are doing an alternative Turkey Trot. The trot in our town is extremely crowded! You know how you start a race and in the beginning, it is like a can of sardines, but then eventually thins out? This race never thins out! A gal in the community who always wins the local triathlons (she's an elite triathlete for short distance triathlons) has organized a race called, Turkey Club 5K. It's unofficial and on our prairie path in a forest preserve she gets permission to use. Cost is the price of a new toy for a Christmas toy drive via her church. So everybody wins.

It is soooo cold it is ridiculous. But I'm thankful I don't have 6 feet of snow like Upstate NY! Those poor folks! Tuesday, all 50 states had freezing to below freezing temps. Yes...even Hawaii! The top Mauna Kea on the big island was below 32 at the summit. The capital of FL was 20 degrees! Friends of ours who vacationed in the FL panhandle, had their photo taken on a white beach with their winter coats on. They posted it on fb and said, "At least the white stuff isn't snow!" LOL By Sun, we will have 50 degrees....but 90% chance of rain. Again...at least it's not snow.

Stay warm, runners! And find a way to keep on running no matter what the weather is! :)

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Hello Everyone. Having eliminated the burden of training for a race that I subconsciously didn't want to run, I'm having a great time running again. Even running in rainy 45 degree weather felt great. My new goal is to get back to running 6 days a week and then to build my weekly volume back up to what I was running back before I broke my arm. That's when I felt the best and enjoyed training.

The weather has warmed up a bit here. Maybe I shouldn't mention that, given how cold it is everywhere else. Today we got into the 60's during the day and the humidity is still low. There is some moisture moving in, with maybe some rain later this week, but we are supposed to stay in the 50's and 60's. I plan to get out as much as I can.

I haven't signed up for the local Turkey Trot this year. I may still do it, but probably not. I'm running a Half Marathon on 7 December (San Antonio) and that will probably be enough racing for me until next year.
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Ann, love that the scale said "lo". very good. Celebrate that weight loss, too. Good job!!

Monty, It's chilly inland here, too. Running can warm us up, you know. However, I chickened out and ran on the treadmill. Just was easier today. Definitely my Saturday long run will be outside no matter the weather!!

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funny this morning...I have been on this weight loss group for about 3 weeks... lost 3 pounds but this morning I got on the scale at work and it said "Lo".... it has to be a sign!

Actually think it means the battery is low!

I'll take it though!

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Hi All!

Been running only about 15 to 20 miles a week at easy paces. As everyone has noticed, it has been getting cold. Central OH has snow! Really early for this time of year. Today is a run day but outside, it is about 18 degrees. Last January, I ran in these cold temps but not sure I am ready for them yet. It seems like only yesterday when I was worried about the heat! Crazy.

We have been trying to figure out Thanksgiving this year - Always in the past we have gone to "my family" but now that dad (93) is in an assisted living facility makes it more difficult. I have offered to have it at my house but 2 hours away - drive is too long for him. My brother who lives in Dad's town doesn't want to do it... the facility has limited staff, they don't want to go out.... so we are staying home this year and going to "DH's family". I only have to take pies so I think I am going to sign up for a turkey trot...never have been able to do that before so think that is an option. Finally today, talked to my dad and I think we are going to try to have lunch at the facility the Sat after Thanksgiving...though two others in the family reminded me that it is OSU vs MI game... and we have a die-hard MI fan and a die-hard OSU fan in the family.... urgh...to all of them! Smile - I love the Holidays!

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I always go on about our weather here in Tampa Bay....today it's 50 and I'm freezin'!
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I remember when I used to wear shorts in 55 degree weather. This morning I'm wearing jeans, and a Nike Element long sleeved running shirt. (the same one I wore at my first Half in 2012. But then again, I don't have that 100 lbs of insulation I used to carry!
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Marathon training can indeed be brutal and disruptive. And when your work schedule has you traveling, it's pretty daunting. On weekends with very long runs, I know I'll be taking a two-hour nap that afternoon, too.

Cindy, I've wasted a lot of money too, but perhaps worse than that is running a race when I shouldn't have, just because of the money spent.

Catherine, I remember that feeling of relief when I decided not to do Austin last year. Coming right on the heels of Houston, where I had such foot pain, I know I would have seriously hurt myself.

Lynn, I find it hard to walk away totally. I fear that I won't start again. Your temps? Insane!

Teri, yes there is a limit to the Gymboss, but I just reset it. No big deal.





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Catherine, Yes those long runs can be tough. Particularly when there are other things going on in your life. I've never managed a race further than 14 miles in Philly. The half seems better to me when you have a lot of life stress. The runs are still short enough that you don't need to rearrange your life too much.

And races. They are great if your training and health and the weather lines up. But a serious of bad luck races can leave you discouraged. I'm can't quite believe the amount of money I've wasted on races due to this knee thing. Just because it was timed so badly. And even if you run the race, if you invest in travel and the weather is miserable its got to be discouraging.

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I'm with Cindy (a.k.a., Trill), I do exactly the same. It's not big deal to restart the interval timer after 99 cycles and I also stop it when getting water, at traffic lights, etc..... The Gym Boss (Jeff Galloway Interval Timer) is pretty hardy, easy to use, etc.

CATHERINE: That's how I felt about triathlons last year. Had to take a break from it and was actually relieved to do so. Now I am actually looking forward to doing them again. Sometimes, the best thing is to walk away from it for a while and come back pumped up and rarin' to go!

It is unbelievably windy and SO ridiculously cold. I wish I could stay home tonight, but have to go out in it. It is currently 16 degrees and -2 wind chill !!!!! How insane is that????? I'm so glad I ran yesterday! Or it would be the dread mill!


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I use a Gymboss, Its an older model. It does have a maximum of 99 interval sets. But when your done it does not stop recording your distance. Your garmin will continue recording your run. If you get to the maximum intervals you just need to press a button and it restarts. I generally stop my timer when I fill up water bottles or use the bathroom. This stops the intervals and when you restart it you are back to 99 intervals. So I rarely use up all 99.

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Hi everyone. I have a question about timing intervals. I got a Garmin Forerunner 220 and finally could give up running with my phone. I like having less to contend with. The only thing is at longer distances and at my speed I can only go 8 miles and then my 99 intervals end and I have to start over. I was just about to order a Galloway timer and then I read a review that seemed to indicate that there is a limit to the intervals on that, too. I guess it's not as bad to restart since you're not also counting time and distance, but I'd rather not. Then I read that there is another one called mini max. Does anyone have one of these?
Also, I just got the December Runners World and it is a really good one ( I got it free with a race sign up) if you ever buy issues this would be one to get because of the inspiring stories. Also they had some pics of the new trend in outfits! Yikes. I haven't seen any in real life, yet. But if it becomes popular my son may take up running.

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Hello, everyone. I hope that the week is starting well for you. It is still cold here, but the clouds are gone. It never seems quite as cold when the sun is shining.

I will run later today, but not the 17 mile run. I have decided over the last few days that I am not currently in the right frame of mind to train for a marathon. I still like to run, but not for more than a couple of hours at a time. I was in a similar space about three years ago after a year when foot issues / pain made my marathon races a little less than fun. At that time, I stopped running marathons for a year, focusing instead on half marathons. At the end of that year, my desire to run marathons was back and I had, subsequently, my best running year at that distance.

Fortunately those foot issues and pain are gone. But the past year has been a difficult running year for me. Life events made it difficult to train as much as I wanted to, there was a lot of non-running stress in my life, and then horrible weather at all three marathons I ran really burned me out. I thought that walking away from time goals and training just to finish would be enough to reignite the spark. But it hasn't been. I need to just run for fun for a while, and that means dropping back to half marathons and shorter distances for a while.

The relief I felt when I made this decision tells me that it is the right one. I haven't actually signed up for the Austin Marathon yet (unusual for me and a sign that I wasn't really committed to it.) So now I will sign up for the Austin Half Marathon instead.

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Bugs in the pantry? Yuck! Happens to me every couple of years, and everything gets tossed. Sometimes that's a good thing.

Sleep-in? I agree with Marsha, a sleepshirt, but not a medal and bib. Unless it's a baby's bib....

I ran on Saturday for the first time since NY. The PF manifested the usual way for the first time: pains up my calf at mile seven. I switched to walking and was able to resume running shortly thereafter.

SB, enjoy your cruise.

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I actually find it quite fascinating the way 5k's have become a big fund raising event. I noticed an increase in run/walks to encourage walker participation. A lot work to stage a race so your money yield would be better if you could convince everyone to sleep in. emoticon

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I have never heard of a sleep in either. Interesting!

Unusual, but I ran two days in a row. The next two days are going to be blustery with high winds and cold temps down in the low to mid 20s for a high. Brrrrr...Nasty stuff! Sat. ran 3 miles at a 5K pace which has slowed down from all the HM pace and lower I've been doing. Weeded out a lot of the walk breaks but took a few. Today, slowed down the pace a tad and dumped all the walks....came in about 20-30 seconds faster. Not that big of a deal. Just playing around in case I want to run the whole 5K on Thanksgiving morning. LOVE my new shoes, too! Brooks Ghost something or other. So far....super comfy, yet stable!

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Then it has probably been there all along here too. I didn't look at the actual registration page, just their emails. It has been featured there only very recently.

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St. Louis definitely had a sleep in option when I checked the race several years ago. Don't know about Philly. Just goes to show that they are a fund raising organization and try yo get as many target groups as possible. St. Louis race was in the summer and it was hot some years.

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I assumed that it was aimed at non runners, but since this was the first I heard of it, just a few days before the race, it could be that they weren't getting the response they had hoped for. It has been cold for the past week and rainy on top of that for several days. This morning probably didn't appeal to a lot of more casual runners.

I ran 5K yesterday in a light rain, around 45 degrees. It wasn't bad but my feet did get pretty wet.

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I'm not sure I like that Komen option of a sleep in. It may help them raise money, but what sense of accomplishment will the purchasers experience? Seems like those who sleep in should get something other than a bib and medal -- like maybe a sleep shirt!

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Catherine, that is interesting with the Susan Komen Run. I have heard of Virtual Runs but a sleep in? I guess it all is for a Great Cause.

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Now here's an interesting twist. The local Komen Foundation is sponsoring a 5k tomorrow. Run for the Cure. One of the options when you register is "sleep in." If you choose that, they mail you your bib and medal. You don't have to actually run the race.
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MONTY: Yes..saw that one two after hearing the reference to Julie Moss. That was something as well!

JEAN: Have a great trip! Will look forward to hearing how it all went when you return!

Had a WEIRD day today. Scratched my eye which was painful most of the day (seems to be better finally), had a last minute huge project that had to be rushed at school b/c a department failed to communicate, a teacher quit today because of an annoying parent that has caused her trouble all year (we all hope she comes back Monday...but it's not looking good...weeks of tears, meetings, etc. Unbelievable!), went to the store to buy some stuff I needed to make cookies...got to the cashier and couldn't find my debit card or other credit card! Finally found one other credit card and used that, but the other cards are still missing! Went home to bake the cookies....one bug in my flour. Threw it out, opened a new bag I had for maybe, 3 weeks? The bag was sealed, but when I opened it, TONS of bugs! I about screamed and ran two blocks!!!! Sealed it all up and put it out in the freezing cold! DIE you suckers! Now I'm going to have to clean out that entire pantry just in case...and check all the dry goods! Sick! So..it's been one weird thing after another!

Tomorrow is another day!

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I am glad I got out yesterday. I just could not push myself out for a run this afternoon.
The highs today was right at 40 degrees with a breeze. Even with the Sun Shining, it was cold. I moved from Tampa Bay area, after living there for over 20 years. Moved back to Raleigh, NC to care for my elder mother. Living in the Sunshine State spoiled me and am really having a hard time adjusting to NC weather. I did do a HITI Cardio and Core Challenge this morning just in case.
The weather tomorrow will be even colder, in the 20's. I really need to get a treadmill or find a fitness center for myself and my mother..

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Hi everyone....

Sorry I have been so MIA lately....

No excuses.....

Tomorrow we (DH and I) are leaving on a 7 day cruise. No wifi there. Very much looking forward to some R & R. And here I am retired. We have 1 tour booked to see some Mayan ruins.

Ran longer today with orthotics.... continued frustration with my feet. Will run next week onboard ship, but not a lot or very fast. Next appt is the Monday after I get back.

Will be back in touch in a week or so.....

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Interesting to speculate that if she had been willing to stick with walking at the end, she might have made it in first. Each time she tried to run, she went down until finally she couldn't get back up.

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I had seen this video race for fourth place. They referenced Julie Moss in 1982. I would suspect that you might have seen this but if not...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVKqFAPdjIA

Here's a great piece as well including the return to where it happened.

"Here’s another thing to remember about racing in 1982: we didn’t know much about nutrition and hydration in endurance sports back then."

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Good morning everyone. It's a chilly morning here. But not as cold as they predicted. They were talking about lows in the mid twenties. But it got cloudy, so didn't get quite as cold. Mid thirties instead. Some parts of Austin have had freezes. But our neighborhood in the Hills is somewhat protected and we didn't get any freezing over night. So my basil is still alive. At least for a little while longer.

The cloud cover may mean that it won't warm up much today, however. I'm going to check the predictions. But my plan still is to run later this morning into the mid afternoon. If the weather looks better for tomorrow I may wait but it'll be either today or tomorrow. Got to get this one done!

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Sharon, Glad you got a run in yesterday. Like your anti-hibernation commitment. We lived in North Carolina several years and other than go to work, I mostly hibernated in the cold. Never did get used to it.

Dee, Glad the massage helped the PF. Hope it lasts.

AFM I ran in my neighborhood yesterday, about 5 miles. I originally signed up for the Orlando UC HM to pursue a PR -- trying to break 2:26. But now I'm thinking I'll run with my niece. She is in a boot and not training. Her boot comes off Dec 4th and our HM is Dec 6th. If it weren't for the injury she'd definitely be faster than me. Just not sure what to expect from her. She's 28. Guess I need to be prepared. She has made tutus for us. Don't know why she wants to run in costume, but I'll go along. Think I'm becoming more of a fun and fitness runner than competitive. That may be okay.

Tomorrow my group is running 5 miles starting at 6am. Sunrise is not until 6:45. So I'm not going to run with them. I'll run on my own after. The following Saturday, 2 weeks before the HM, I plan a long run. Hope to work it out where I can join the group after sunrise and then finish the run on my own. We'll see.

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CATHERINE: Thanks for that information. Our bodies are amazing machines!!!! I should have taken that last gel even though I only had two more miles to go. I've been so calorie focused in working hard to lose weight that I didn't want to spend another 100 calories. But when I added my exercise in for that day, I earned an extra thousand calories (of course I didn't eat a thousand more...but what difference would the 100 calories from the gel make on that day! Where was my head?!?!?!?). Live and learn! I am really looking forward to the next HM and tweaking my mistakes.

DEE: Good idea to get those feet massaged! Relaxes that tendon. Around here, we've had a few reflexology places open up that does only the feet and calves. Groupon has coupons for these places and I keep thinking I need to get one or two and have at it! ;)

SHARON: Where do you live? Must be east of me (Chicago area) or south and east? And if this week isn't cold enough, it only gets worse next week with a high in the low to mid 20s. But the weekend after this weekend is supposed to finally bounce back with above normal temps! YEAH!

CINDY: I have some GREAT winter running clothes and that makes all the difference in the world! In fact, my favorite running temps are in the 30s. But would prefer that to be in January VS November! LOL

Did my computraining last night and it was a lot of fun. Normally don't like it too much, but lately, I'm IN to it! The bike mechanic filled in for our coach who couldn't make it. Normally, that would stink, but this kid is very nice. A bit quiet and shy, but always smiling and laughing with us. And...we love our coach as well. Last year, he was the quiet one and seemed bored. But he had totally come out of his shell and has started to act like an enthusiastic coach. He does an excellent job of checking our form and teaching us proper breathing methods. A lot of what he says about pacing can be applied to our running as well. Self checking ourselves to see if we can or should increase speed...if not sure....waiting it out a little longer, etc....

Swam this AM for 2,000 yards and you know how I love to swim to kick out those kinks. Nice 10 min. whirlpool afterwards too. Hope to get in that first run after the race tomorrow before we get the couple inches of snow! But...I really need to get some shoes!




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Good Morning and Happy Friday!!

Well, I overslept again this morning but when waking I heard the rain outside. Oh well, there goes my plans for my Friday Morning Run. This artic front is moving our way with gradual temp drops. Today the temps highs will be in the 40's, tomorrow dropping to the 20's.

I am grateful I pushed myself out the door yesterday for a short run. I will try again for early afternoon run again today. Something is better than nothing. Last year I felt like I was sick from Sept. - the end of the year and ended up hibernating. I will not do that again this year..

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Oh my, I cannot imagine how those two felt finishing that Ironman. Very dramatic finish. Not something I ever want to feel.

I got a very good massage yesterday, focusing on that plantar fascia. Who knew that could be massaged! I'm hoping the improvement holds, and I've already scheduled the next massage for next week.

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June, Good job on those longer distances. Sounds like you got a good massage.

Marsha, Good luck on finding the cause of the dizziness, dancing is fun, good luck on the run

Dee, completing a marathon with crutches, Those things are just no fun, Can't imagine it.

Lynn, bundle up. When Texas gets good running temps you are in trouble.

Catherine, Good luck on the long run. Still looks like you have good running weather.

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Thank you all for sharing all this information on hitting the wall. I always have heard about this, thank goodness never experienced it.
Knowledge is power! Thanks again!

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It looks dramatic, I know. But "hitting the wall" is actually a protective device. Tests have shown that at this point our glucose supplies are not (yet) dangerously low. When the brain (the part that "runs" the body, not the rational brain) decides, however, that we are at risk of getting into danger, it takes steps to prevent that from happening by shutting down all "inessential" activities to make sure there is enough fuel for the essential functions (including the brain). Among other things, It literally deactivates muscle fibers (i.e. blocks signals that would otherwise fire the muscles) which is why they were staggering. It sends messages of overwhelming fatigue to the conscious brain that can't be "willed" away. Just to mention a couple of things. I'm pretty sure that the heart is one of the things it is protecting by shutting down the legs.

I have never hit a wall as hard as these ladies did, but when I have, I often find that my energy is back 5 or 10 minutes after I stopped exerting myself. And sometime it only takes a gel or another fuel source to enable me to return to hard exertion again (if the wall hit early, for some reason, which it has when I didn't fuel properly before a run).

In addition to fueling properly, training can also push back the wall. The brain is very conservative and if you are out of shape or not accustomed to long bouts of exertion, it will often act much sooner than it really needs to. One thing you are training your brain to recognize is that you can function at that high level without danger for longer than it previously thought. It learns this gradually via long runs and other hard work outs.

These women (since they came in fourth and fifth in an Ironman) were highly trained with brains that let them push closer to the edge that ours probably would.

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JUNE.... Wow...that never occurred to me about the women getting a heart attack. It actually choked me up to see their determination. Loved how they touched hands at the end while on the finish line. The issue wasn't their hearts, but that they spent all their calories. That is "bonking" or "hitting the wall" at the extreme end. Most likely, the worst that would have happened, barring any other underlying issues, would have been that they passed out. I'm sure the first thing the medics did was put an IV in them and give them glucose water. Within minutes they'd start to feel better. I watch the World Triathlon Championship most years towards the end of the race when the pros come in, and none of them seem to be in this bad of shape anymore...though possibly wobbly. That's why I pointed out how amazing that in itself has changed due to all the sports nutrition now available in easy to use packets. Thank goodness!

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Weather is starting to get real bad around here.
I was not able to get out early for my run, woke late and also forgot mother had lab appointment. I pushed myself out the door early this afternoon and ran 2 miles. I do
prefer early morning running, more energy. 2 miles better than no miles..
If weather permits I hope to get out for a 6 mile run in the morning..

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Hope your foot is better soon Dee

Best wishes with your long run Catherine


Those ladies oozing over the finish line after hitting the wall were horrifying. I guess because they are young and healthy, that was all that was going on, but I was thinking, they could easily have a heart attack or some other life-ending attack right then and there.

I have started running some longer distances and ending shorter workouts with stairs and hills, and I have been forgetting my refuel food about half the time. It makes a big difference in the workout, hopefully I have forgotten them enough times lately that I won't forget any more.

I got a sports massage today, wow, that lady sure can find the muscle knots. She said I should do more foam rolling (because of running and hiking) to keep my legs from getting over tight. She finds spots I haven't noticed to be a problem, so I am probably getting these areas fixed by her early on. Kind of interesting that in several places pain or tenderness in my right side (always my right side) she finds tightness in my left side. I feel awesome now, the muscles are loose and happy and I think there might be an extra endorphin rush, I don't know how it all works, but I know I feel super now.


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Monty, Glad to hear that you got the support -- and from elite athlete no less -- to rehab and recover through tri- and duathlons. Congrats on that fast 5K. I'm sure you are just getting smarter and smarter about knowing when to train and when to race, so that withdrawal, although perhaps frustrating, was undoubtedly a wise move. You compete in so many races, you can't be surprised or upset that one didn't work out!!!

Enjoyed Senior Dance this morning. Plan to run in the neighborhood this eve. Will enjoy that, too! MRI rescheduled for Tuesday (not Monday as I posted in error earlier.) At dance today I found that I could do 180 degree turns (line dances) with no problem, but I told hubby when I do a fast 360 he needs to give me a minute to recover before doing it again. Dizziness bothering me a little. Perhaps I'm just still recovering from concussion. Hope it isn't anything ongoing. We'll see.

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Thanks to all for the input & advice. I've volunteered for the MCM 5 years ion a row. Almost half of my staff has done it multiple times. I'm also very familiar with the course as I've been all over it during the race. Despite all that, I still have never done it so it's a whole different perspective. I'm embracing it now and know I can do this with proper training.
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Great running weather here, but I am nursing the foot. Maybe this evening I'll try a short one if it's not raining.

Unfortunately rain is in the forecast for Saturday, and since I'm just getting over my NYC marathon cold, I'll pass if the weather is too bad.

Yes, Marsha, I've seen a lot of runners dealing with a lot of issues. I was stunned during the NYC marathon to pass a woman much older than I am going forward with crutches! I would consider that a bit extreme, but she didn't and we were around mile 18, so obviously it was working for her.

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Great running weather here in central Florida, too. Did 5 miles Tuesday and elliptical yesterday.

Funny, but before I started running I thought anyone who was a long distance runner had to be in perfect health. But I've found that many, many runners deal with running-related and non-running related health conditions. Hope to be a runner for a long, long time.

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Thanks, CATHERINE! I don't know why I can't get a link to work from YouTube. Perhaps they've changed their rights to non-members.

In the meantime, I've been doing some research on the subject and it's been quite interesting. I definitely take advantage of tapering, but didn't realize how important that is in regards to bonking out in a race (aka...hitting the wall). Also, it has come out about carb loading not being necessary in some "thinkers" of the day....But many running coaches still believe anything over a 2 hour race still needs a certain amount of carb loading (healthy carbs...and not a ton of it!). Thinking back....my pre race day meal, I don't recall doing anything special. And I had a big gap of time at one point of a good hour without a gel. Thinking I need to carry some water with me on a race. I usually work it out by studying the course map and planning my nutrition around where the water stops are. But they moved the water stops from that course map throwing me off. They did ADD an additional one and I would have been OK anyway, but I had no way of knowing that. Some things to think about.

Hoping to get back to running soon. I wanted to go out yesterday even though it was freezing cold....But the wind was insane! Never got to even 30 degrees and the windchill was barely 20! This might not have stopped me in January, but since we just left the 60s, it's a hard pill to swallow. It's not getting any better next week.... Highs only in the low to mid 20s! This is very unseasonably cold for November even for Chicagoland! Eeeks!

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The title of the YouTube video is

The Crawl To The Finish Line (1997 IronMan Triathlon)

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I've not had any of the links work. I do think I've seen the video before

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Interesting, because my link works for me when I click on it. It is a conspiracy, I think, because your new link gives me the following error message: "error loading player: no playable sources found."
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Perhaps the links are working for everyone else. But if not go to YouTube and search on the following "The Crawl To The Finish Line (1997 IronMan Triathlon)" and that should take you to a playable video.

PS I decided to try it on my phone it case it was a Kindle issue but the results are the same for me there.

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CATHERINE: Your link didn't work either! It's a conspiracy! ;) Your link went to the menu page of YouTube.

I'll try a different link to this video outside of YouTube.

www.liveleak.com/view?i=de7_12347342
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Yes, it is great running weather in Austin right now. But looks like I will have to wait until Friday for my long run. Some repairs that were supposed to be done yesterday got delayed until this morning which meant that I needed to be at home, plus I have some unplanned tasks to take care of since there is now the possibility of a hard freeze tonight. So Friday morning is my new plan. I will have to get going on the early side because I have a furnace checkup at 2:00-4:00 (just a coincidence. Thought I was scheduling it before we got really cold weather when I made the appointment.)
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Catherine, If you are doing that long run it looks from here like you have great temperatures. I don't even have to add for Texas.

Monty, The MCM is certainly popular and seems to be a good experience for many people. Plus they let you wear backpacks. Well at least last year.

Jean, Enjoy the Big Cat rescue tour. We are still warm in Philly, but expect a big drop in temperatures by tomorrow.

Lynn, If you can I think smaller doses of sugar more frequently makes the most sense. Of course those gels are very conveniently packaged and they frequently hand you at least one on a half course.

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Lynn, your link didn't work for me. Is this perhaps the video that you had in mind?

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Catherine

If you're not having fun, then why run?

A day without running is not a good day.
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You don't get to choose how you're going to die, or when. You can only decide how you're going to live. Now.
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Good luck, Monty!

I'll have to check that link this evening.

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Thanks to all who offered inspiring words over the weekend. I'm still standing and still positive! My Tri Season is over but the excitement has just begun!
I'm training with my close friend and coach, Susan, to do the 2015 Marine Corps Marathon wearing my new Team Tampa Hope for the Warriors colors! She is an Elite runner and suggested we train Galloway method!
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Hi team!

SHARON:
Thanks for the information.... I will get there one of these days or weeks...

ANN:
I sure understand where you are coming from. If I were to go outside without all my gadgets I somehow think all my conditioning would plummet. I don't know why I "need" stats to prove I ran.

DEE:
I have discovered how important and intricate our feet are, especially as runners.

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A chilly morning in this Florida town today. I did warm up as I ran and walked though. I decided to have an easier run today and did that. I did not eat that great yesterday and I could tell my energy was low this morning. Wore orthotics. Seemed to work okay.

Looking forward to the Big Cat Rescue tour today. One of the top organizations in the country of this kind. Not a zoo.... must make reservations for a tour.

Have a fantastic day everyone.


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