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It's absolutely fine to think about what you want to eat on an S day ahead of time, especially if it allows you to delay having it rather than having it right now. I used that just about an hour ago, as I saw mint M & M's (one of my favorites) on sale. I thought, oh, I'll buy some now and have them for the weekend. But I knew I was kidding myself. I'm too shaky with the habits these days to risk having them around. I decided I can come back on the weekend and buy the candy if I still want it then.

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6/17/15 1:45 P

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emoticon oh, that's a great story! and it IS what goes on in your head, isn't it? "it's an N day")

I am finding myself thinking about things I'd like to eat on Saturday!!!!

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Isn't that nice? It reminds of a post on the no s site in which a woman reported that one time someone at work offered her a sweet/snack and without thinking (or pain) the No S-er replied, 'No, thanks. It's Tuesday." Not actually what you want to say out loud, but it just meant it was a reflex to say no rather than the other way around. And no drama.

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Today, at mid-morning, there were two large boxes of assorted chocolate biscuits put out on the table! I was tempted ........ and had to endure some 'oh go on' comments - but actually I didn't have any! I sipped my coffee - and actually 'forgot' all about them. It was like I had 'decided' that I wasn't going to eat them (No Sweets, No Snacks) - and it switched off the desire! Amazing!
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I had lunch about 1pm.

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Congrats! Not sure what time you have lunch but sounds like quite a stretch from lunch to an 8:30 tea time. The snack was probably a good option.

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Hey! I hope that week is way behind you now and that you are back to the plan?

I'm on Day 1 -and did really well. I planned one snack for myself (instead of my usual three snacks a day) and I thought I'd need it mid-morning - but I didn't - I went straight through to lunch, and I enjoyed the snack at around 4.30pm - and didn't get tea until 8.30pm - which I really enjoyed. I surprised myself today!

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6/4/15 9:52 A

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I've had a down week. Sorry to dump! At my grandnephew's wedding, there were so many overweight people. Many of them young. I don't like that it even means anything to me. I don't want to be judged for my eating. They surely don't, either. Maybe that's why I've been so non-compliant this week. Rebelling? But I also know that the why doesn't always help me turn things around Habit theory says to put more energy on small changes you want to make and less on the mistakes. Just go back to the plan or even make it a little easier to establish success. Will think about that. Maybe I need to ease back into the habits one or two at a time.

Edited by: OOLALA53 at: 6/4/2015 (09:56)
*"The goal of weight loss is incompatible with recovering from disordered eating." Center for Clinical Interventions
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats. Five years and counting! nosdiet.com/ *Be happy with this moment. This moment is your life.
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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On a personal note, I am attending the wedding of my GRANDnephew tomorrow. His mother was born to my older sister when I was a sophomore in high school. Now he, her oldest, is getting married to his high school sweetheart. My, my. Marriage seems to have skipped a generation; my sister is married, but neither my brother nor me is or ever was. Sign of the times.

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*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats. Five years and counting! nosdiet.com/ *Be happy with this moment. This moment is your life.
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Thursday was a fail. Friday recovered. Weird sleep such that I was up during the night then slept until 9:30 am today. Very unusual for me to sleep that late almost no matter what. But I was not sleepy at all at even 1 a.m. Come on, body! Cooperate! The good news is the course I have been having Saturday morning online Google video hangout check-ins by 10 for, and which required viewing a video sometime between Friday night at 9 and the morning meeting, is over. Ten a.m. isn't early but it was just hanging over my head. I was glad to do it and glad it's over.

I have a potluck to go to tonight. My plan is to eat pretty lightly until then. Don't have much of an appetite anyway. I'll save room for dessert for sure though I'm not bringing any. There's never a shortage of dessert at a potluck.

Edited by: OOLALA53 at: 5/9/2015 (13:17)
*"The goal of weight loss is incompatible with recovering from disordered eating." Center for Clinical Interventions
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats. Five years and counting! nosdiet.com/ *Be happy with this moment. This moment is your life.
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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Good for you, Cheri, on the exercise!! Woo!! That's awesome to get moving again. I have found, as I suspect others have, that no matter how stringent my diet is, if I don't move and exercise, I will not lose weight. This caused a lot of frustration for me in the past as I had listened to the mysterious "They," whose mantra is, "You can't outrun your fork," and who advocated easing off the exercise in order not to make yourself too hungry. As I got older, that sort of made sense - I'd rather not wind up in the orthopedist's office because I over-exercised to combat over-eating. So, the goal was to eat way, way less and not have to exercise as much.

Bad idea -- for me anyway. I don't mean to say that eating less isn't a great idea, but this ol' body of mine demands physical activity or just looking at food puts weight on. I think it's one of the many (ahem) *pleasures* of reaching a certain age...middle age, so called because all the weight goes to your MIDDLE! Anyway, keep up the good work!

As for failing, OOLALA, I was with you in failure yesterday, but today is a new day. I'm glad to see you are over it. Here's to new days!

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5/6/15 9:20 P

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I had a fail! Oh, well. I'm over it.

Before No S, I had done really just a few diets. I thought about them a lot but rarely stuck to any; just tried to eat well and caved all the time. But I did do 40/30/30 one time, and eventually, was eating like that while bingeing. When I started No S, it was fine with me to eat those meals, perhaps with some refined carb. To me, a slice of pizza with cottage cheese for protein and plenty of veggies is the same thing. It's relatively loose. Years before, I had gone through IE and giving permission to eat anything. I gained! BUT. I also found out that I didn't need big quantities of junky foods or even good quality but heavier foods. But I CAN have them. So I didn't need to go nuts on the meals. I DID on weekends. I was not ready to give that up. The balance kept me at it.

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5/6/15 9:31 A

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Thanks to everyone. You are right LEANNAW4 I am liking not having to take the time and log my food. I rather focus on my meals and like you said OOLala to enjoy each meal and not have any restrictions. We all have been on those diets where you can only eat so many carbs, watch the fat, it is enough to drive someone crazy! I have found out since I did snack excessively at night watching tv that I am hungry later in the evening, so I have been drinking a glass of almond milk...and it does work for me. I did exercise yesterday for the first time....put on WII dance tape and did 30 minutes. How is everyone else doing?

Have a great No-S day
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Yeah, you do miss out on the points from logging your food, but you can still get them for other things. However, slim cultures do not keep track of their calories, nor even know the calorie content! They do have ritual for meals. Most don't eat three big meals or even two. Usually, only one meal is sizable, one is medium, and one is rather small. They are actually routinely made up of similar components that are relatively interchangeable, so their calorie content averages out. But these are details at this point.

If you really wanted, you could make up prototype meals that you program in the food tracking system and just claim you ate that meal if you have something close. Then record the meal and get the points. Try to make it as quick and carefree as possible. Reinhard recommends tracking only one thing: success or failure at no s's on weekdays. Simple is more likely to be sustained!

It's actually a lot more important that you have foods you like and that you ENJOY your meals a lot. Take your time! You wanted the food; now you have it, so give it and yourself the attention it deserves. People in slim cultures LOVE food; they eat it slowly. Pleasure is a big motivator. They simply believe that you actually enjoy food more when you don't overeat it. (And some research shows your metabolism speeds up some when you eat slowly. But that's not No S.)

I think Spark should allow earning points for taking at least 20 minutes to eat one meal and 30 to eat another each day.


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Sorry, I tend to over answer!

Edited by: OOLALA53 at: 5/5/2015 (19:58)
*"The goal of weight loss is incompatible with recovering from disordered eating." Center for Clinical Interventions
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats. Five years and counting! nosdiet.com/ *Be happy with this moment. This moment is your life.
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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In response to CSC777's question about the Spark Points, you are, of course, welcome to log your food if you like. I know for many of us, the not logging is one of the things we love about No S, but it certainly doesn't mean you can't. No S is more of a moderation tool, a method for greater portion control and mindfulness (with a dash of sanity thrown in). Its beauty is that it is so broad in application, with a few exceptions you can pretty much apply it to whatever style of dieting you choose.

You can also get points by logging exercise, reading articles and recipes, etc. Oh, and I think you even get some for posting to message boards like this one!

Have a great day!

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I was a sugar binger, too. I kept that up on weekends for quite awhile but was so happy not to be overeating during the week I didn't care. I just didn't feel I could clamp down on myself any faster.

Try not to worry about it very soon. But, if you're determined not to binge, I suggest planning for your binge foods on weekends- when and where- and engineer it so that you can have only reasonable portions. E. g., don't have a carton of ice cream at home. Have a serving of ice cream with witnesses! And possibly at the end of a meal. Change any routine that allowed you to binge for several weeks, if you can. I admit I often have too much time on my hands, avoiding tasks I don't like, but feeling at odds with finding better ones. But I can tough it out and wait now. The honest truth is many bingers have a hard time figuring out what they will do when they aren't eating... But it's worth the effort, even if you end up doing rather mindless things. Better those than mindless eating.

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*Get to the next meal hungry!
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Thanks I appreciate your input. Have a good day!

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I got used to the 3 plates really quickly - you can expect to be hungry between meals though if you don't eat enough. And don't expect the weight loss to be quick either. I've gone through the NoS website, and can't exactly figure out how some posters lost so quickly, unless they kept it up on weekends.

Right now - I'm trying to do it on weekends as well (the 3 plates) because I like being hungry when I start eating. I figure I'm through my previous food if I do.

But I do relax on content on those plates on the weekend.

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Hi,

Hope everyone is doing well! I have a few questions..one being how do you get your sparkpoints if not logging in food? I know that's a weird question. Also does everyone here post on the No S diet website? One of my concerns are that I have a history of sugar addiction and binging, How long did it take to get used to the 3 plates and anything on weekends? Have a great day !!

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Yay for cake, frosting, and getting to eat it, guilt-free! The 'systematic moderation' built into No S is awesome for this reason, helping us achieve overall moderation while still allowing us to partake in life's sweeter (literally) moments with family and friends. I'd say that makes for a happy birthday for your hubby and everyone, KDGIRL!

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And yesterday was my hubbie's BD. Went out for dinner with the family, ate a bit of this, a bit of that, and a piece of cake. My husband's mom used to make him this special frosting (recipe from 50 years ago in England) which takes a lot of time and effort. I make it once a year, for his BD. And everybody loved it. Nice not to feel guilty!!

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So glad for No S! My dance teacher had her last class for a few months and one dancer brought cake. I felt terrific having mine!

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I'm cross posting this because I think its emphasis on how to change habits supports No S.

I'm considering getting this series for myself, but for anger and feelings of incompetence at work. (It occurred to me recently that I feel a lot worse about those than I do about my eating, and I think making progress there would actually support better eating.) I read this woman's book and have heard her on a TED talk and a webinar. However, I'm in an online course now that meets for several more weeks and also involves some meditative practices. I don't want to overload myself and end up not really getting the benefit of either. But I thought I'd post anyway.

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The body can retain or lose a lot more than 2 pounds of water in a day. What it can't do is gain or lose two pounds of fat in a day.

Not going to write a lot about it now, but I did go to a Geneen Roth workshop a couple of weekends ago. I was pretty familiar with her work. She was recommending something similar to intuitive eating back in 1982, though she wasn't the first, either. The day and a half was pleasant enough but it hasn't changed my habits this week. And she said very quickly in passing that she basically eats only two meals a day and has for decades. I think it helps her that she hasn't had a job with certain hours for most of her adult life, though I'm sure there are times other people have a lot of influence on her schedule. But most of the time, she has discretion over her time. And she is not hungry enough to eat more than twice a day. Interesting. I'm afraid many of her followers will be convincing themselves they are hungry and eating a lot more often than that.

*"The goal of weight loss is incompatible with recovering from disordered eating." Center for Clinical Interventions
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats. Five years and counting! nosdiet.com/ *Be happy with this moment. This moment is your life.
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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Okay, here's something crazy. I weighed in yesterday morning at 189. No problem, I knew I had eaten way too much on Sunday, and it was restaurant stuff loaded with salt and sugars. Today, I weigh myself (I do it every morning at roughly the same time, same conditions) and I'm down to 186.6 (which is rougly where I was last Friday).

Hmm, I wonder if that 2 pounds was all water from the sodium laced weekend? I've never had a drop like that from one day to the next.

I find the body so fascinating!

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Oolala, sorry to hear about the struggles you are facing.



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Have a great vaca Beck!!

Today is the weekend. My challenge is not to go overboard and give away all the progress I've made this week.

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NoS hasn't been going as I would like lately, but I plan on being 100% committed to this once I'm back from holiday so I'll be re-starting on Saturday 28th March.

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Good for you Oolala to acknowledge what is going on and confront it. That makes me feel like this truly is a life long program, and life has its ups and downs.

I was getting a little discouraged by the scale, but the freedom I've had the lastl month+ is wonderful. Last night I had a small plate of bbq chicken, grilled asparagus, roasted cautliflower, and a glass of wine. I can be totally satisfied with food like that.



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Hang in there, ladies! I wish I could say I am being a model fearless leader, but truth is, I'm not. It's irritating how quickly the deviations from habit can seem to become acceptable again. I'be been through more than one "crisis" that No S took me through smoothly before, but not this one. I won't go into the details because it's embarrassing how much it is really all in my head. But, boy, is it stormy in there and shows up in emotional discomfort big time. I guess I'm a bit like a poor animal caught in a trap, doing crazy things that can even make the pain worse in an attempt to get away. I did limit myself to a much smaller lunch "window" today. It had been going on for hours for a few days! Hope it doesn't discourage anyone that I'm flailing after so many years. But really, there is no program out there that has shown itself to be immune to failures, permanent and temporary.

*"The goal of weight loss is incompatible with recovering from disordered eating." Center for Clinical Interventions
*The No S Diet saved me from my emotional eating defeats. Five years and counting! nosdiet.com/ *Be happy with this moment. This moment is your life.
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Well I had a great day yesterday. Ate well (all N) and exercised appropriately. Mentally, feeling much better about my journey. Sometimes life is not just peaches and cream and puppies and flowers.

We persevere. And I'm going into the weekend strong as well!! emoticon

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I figured something would manifest to replace my binge eating habit, and I know what it is now. It slowly crept up on me because it is a good thing that's turning into a binge. SP! Yep, I spend too much time here, and I'm becoming unbalanced. I need to do quick check-ins each day and then leave before I start reading everything else. I need to go back and read NoS again regarding other habits.

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We have memory of those food full days being satisfying (for me emotionally more than physically), so we try to recreate that on the weekends but we've changed. Doing this "diet" changes us on a fundamental level and old comforts just don't satisfy anymore.

Well, at least that's how I see it while I'm on an upswing and feeling good! Catch me on a down day and I may change my story. emoticon

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I did not have a great weekend. Ate too much, felt too full. I was really getting to like the feeling of being hungry at mealtime. I need to get back to that ASAP. It's all a learning curve I guess.

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Ali - sounds like some good strategies!

I had some nice S days. I ate some cookies and seconds, but it wasn't out of control, non-stop like in the past. Just a normal day with a few indulgences once I got over the "if I don't eat it now I'll have to wait a whole week" attitude. I even stayed even on my weight.

I like this!

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I had those problems LAST week! I told myself "Sometimes" in the book's title really means just that ... sometimes... not always or everything! I tried this weekend allowing myself one sweet or one snack food (still s part of my meal ... NOT as a between meal snack). Snacking between meals now makes me too full and uncomfortable. Saturday I didn't even take advantage of the opportunity and today I had a serving of chips with lunch. Amazing! I feel so much better. I haven't really lost weight either (and I do exercise) but after tracking food intake, I KNOW I am under on my calorie range ... so I am figuring it will come eventually and slowly. I like the eating method too much to go back to my old ways.
Hanging in there!

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I need to get back on track. I have reverted to snacking and sweets too often over the past week! It doesn't even make me feel good, so why am I eating it when I am stressed? My goal for next week: when I feel stressed at work, take a break that DOESN'T involve food! Call a friend, take a short walk, empty out a file drawer, take the laptop into the garden, update my timesheet/expenses/mileage reports, or anything else that will provide a change of pace. I am committed to trying these strategies next week! (p.s. I work from home, I only record the hours I am actually working)

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I'm having some of the same problems yesterday I ate more sweets then I really needed or wanted. My thinking was if I wanted something sweet, it only had these two days to get it in. I have just started reading the book.

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Yes Tornado - I already think that on a weekend. But I am learning, slowly but surely. I am also eating too much on weekends. When I wake up in the morning and am not in the least bit hungry, I know I've eaten too much. Even though it fits on a plate. I guess it's a learning curve, and even though I've done No S for a month now and not lost any significant weight, I've had a great food thought free month. That is pretty awesome.

I also find myself eating food that for years has been "bad" food. Bread. Potatoes. Cheese. I am learning to come to terms with food and I think it'll straighten itself out over time.

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Odd day yesterday. I am still under the weather, but yesterday I had some interesting conversations with myself. I kept wanting to eat, not because I was hungry or even craving something, it was because it was a weekend. I kept thinking that I'd better eat a snack and a cookie, because if I don't then it will be another week before I get a chance. It was like I was afraid not to eat and induce a craving later in the week. Have you experienced this?

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Keep hanging on!

I did not escape the germs, so spent yesterday on the couch. Feeling a bit better today, but passing on the exercise. Glad it's an S day, even though sick days are S days even during the week, I'm happy not to get off schedule so early in my life overhaul.



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Thanks! I'm still failing, but hanging in there.

*"The goal of weight loss is incompatible with recovering from disordered eating." Center for Clinical Interventions
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Oolala - only 98 days until you've hit 2000!! That's quite a big accomplishment!

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Oolala, sorry to hear that you are struggling. I hope you find peace this weekend.

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Well, I sure talk a big streak, but honestly, right now, I am wobbling a lot. I'm resisting even looking at my reasons to eat sanely, and am being quite swayed by old habits. Oh, well. Next moment.

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I used to view special events (holidays, vacation, get togethers, etc.) in terms of what food was going to be there and how delicious it would be. As I work through these first few weeks, I can feel that thought fading. I always worried about food, but now it's not in the forefront as it once was (although, it's not completely gone either). I hope that it fades even more as time marches on.

I still find it odd that when I indulged in sweets ALL THE TIME, that I was obsessed with when I could get more. Now that I've elminated them throughout the week, I thought for sure that I would be even more obsessed because I was depriving myself, but it's quite the opposite. I find that I don't have those strong sugar urges as I once did.

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When we give ourselves delightful food often, being on vacation becomes less about extra food and more about extra relaxation or extra fun or beauty or knowledge, etc.

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THANKS! This will be the first time I have gone on vacation without worrying about what I'm going to eat and panicking about how I'm going to keep things under control. It's a much more relaxed way to start!

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Cats - hope you have fun on vacation!

Karen - I was having some jello and cream this weekend as a treat, and it just didn't have the appeal it once did. Not having sweets is finally breaking apart the love affair that I've had with them in the past. I used to eat ANYTHING sweet to get a fix, and now I'm developing a snobbishness for something truly delectable.

My S days were busy, busy, with basic meals and a sweet one day and a snack another. Definitely not a splurge day, and more like a normal day. I truly love the "priceless" feeling of not blowing a so-called diet.

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Well I had plenty of Ss this weekend. Made plenty of observations along the way as well.

1) sweets taste much better when you don't have them all the time.

2) snacking is easier to avoid when you are at home

3) eating food that tastes good does not necessarily agree with me. I was overfull and bloated somewhat after meals.

4) getting to that next meal hungry is really appealing.

So I know I overate, but didn't go crazy. It didn't make me feel better, it made me feel worse. So next time, will stop eating earlier. However, not feeling totally guilty because I blew my diet - as they say "PRICELESS"!!

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Yes, S's are not an obligation on S days. The rule was supposed to say "sometimes" on S days. People in slim cultures have exceptions very rarely, by our standards. If we are not depriving ourselves at our meals, our need for exceptions is weakened. And, our need for sumptuousness at meals actually decreases, too. We can have light or less-than-stellar meals sometimes and take it in stride. That is something very hard to learn on a strict diet, which is why so many people fail at them in the long run.

Doing okay, though more full than I would usually like to be. Will be compassionate with myself over it and basically drop thinking about it. A technique that was suggested in my meditation class was to say briefly "Cancel, cancel" when negative thoughts intrude. It doesn't work on really stressful ones for me, but on little ones, it can.

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First time ever...no S's today on an official S day...just didn't want them. I don't expect this to become the rule yet, but it was nice for today. emoticon

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Thanks Leanna..I am moving forward!! Day 2 a success!!!

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Sounds divine in its freedom.

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I did not get to pick the restaurant, but was not disappointed. Gordough's in Austin - a place that serves everything on a donut. The hamburger was delicious. We shared, my friend and I, and the 4 of us shared a sweet donut dessert. All delicious. I really like being able to enjoy my food!!

PS - also had a margarita and some beers... went past the glass ceiling, but it was a special occasion and I wansnt ddriving.

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GAIL ~

So glad to see you are back!! Learn from the experience, then put it behind you and carry on. We can do this!!

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As a coffee drinker, I feel I have a pretty easy time on vacations. Even if other people want to stop for a snack or sweet, I can just about always have coffee and relax with them. And since I can get whatever I want for my meals, I can decide to choose sumptious foods, if I want. Once I got used to not having had dessert at home, I found that being full with my meals meant I didn't really want dessert often. I realized that I wasn't really missing anything. And on vacation, there is always savoring the surroundings and ambience!


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Next week I'll be leaving for a three week vacation. I am not worried...we are generally very active when we travel and I think the eating opportunities will be limited to 3 per day. That should make things easier! It will be a matter of eating only one plate of food at each meal and forgoing dessert except on weekends. We will see how it goes...

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Been at it five years.

Everything is "allowed" on S days. Margaritas are acceptable at meals any day, if you choose. Reinhard regards booze separately: He aspires to what he calls a "two-glass ceiling" on any day of the week at any time. It's a personal decision.

Hope you have a chance for input on the type of restaurant. I'd like to see you have a meal you enjoy.

I did not tell anyone I was doing No S until I had been on it for several months and people asked about my weight loss. It is much better to let the habit do the talking. I recommend against participating in any conversations about diet or body judging. Surely don't give anyone any chance to express a negative opinion about what you are doing, which is world-tested! People are so brainwashed by the diet and health industry, which keep pushing diets despite the abysmal track record of success, that they cannot be objective, in my opinion. My work colleagues all know about it by now and occasionally still try to push sweets midweek, but I know most are actually impressed at my tenacity and results.

Hope I can say I've come to think engaging in diet talk is part of diet head, and is, unfortunately, a kind of bonding between women, when IMHO, we should instead be talking about the wonderful, delicious meals we've been having, and reinforcing each other for living a vital, interesting life, not deploring our bodies because they don't meet "professional beauty" standards! Besides, most of the talk bolsters our fantasies and unconsciously, and we lose credibility even with ourselves if we've had multiple excited starts and dejected failures. I gently suggest you say as little as possible and change the subject!



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Hi Gail! I just started back after a loooooong absence. Sounds like you have a great starting plan in place.

Karen - I hope you have fun and enjoy this weekend. Can one of your days be an S day so you can enjoy the drinks and food? Not go overboard, but not feel guilty?

I can't give much advice since I'm only on day 12. Did you see this article on burning off beer? http://www.sparkpeople.com/blog/blog.asp?p
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Thanks for all the support everybody during my first two weeks back! emoticon

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Wow - I really like how active this board is!! I look forward to hearing everyone's challenges. And the way they respond.

Here's a question for those who have been doing this awhile - do you share your strategy with others, or do you just do it and not explain?

Going to Austin this weekend for a retirement party. Meeting my bestie from Dallas up there - she is a sinful girl. But so much fun!! We are having dinner with two of her sons and a friend. I'm not anticipating any problems since I can eat REAL FOOD. No matter where we go. I just hope it's not Mexican. That kind of food is so saucy and cheesy it makes my stomach hurt.

Plus - where does a margarita land? I guess it's liquid, right? One might be okay. Tea is definitely not an option tonight.

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It's been awhile since I've been here..:( I got derailed BAD!! I am reading the book again..and today will get rid of the junk and plan my meals.The weekend is a good place for me to start since I work 12 hours shifts both days and the only food/meals available are what I pack and bring to work.

I will check back in tomorrow..

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Good catch Oolala!

Definitely #2 - filling time. I walked around this afternoon thinking that I wanted to snack, but realizing that I was absolutely bored (well, I really didn't want to go downstairs and finish my laundry). So many things to do, but yet I want to go to the pantry for an easy (familiar) way out. I reminded myself that I have one more day and then I can take the edge off the snacky monster if I so chose.

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BIG win! When you've done that on a couple of hundred N days, it will be hard to remember that you lived another way. And yes, it takes a lot longer than 21 days for most. But it's hard only sometimes. It's only torture when 1) we keep giving ourselves an option in the back of our mind, and/or 2) we don't realize that we don't want to face how to fill our time. This can be very unpleasant to face!

I just nearly went in and mindless ate a few spoonfuls of yogurt. Lordy! Caught myself. Got my decaf. Life is fine.

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I'm definitely enjoying this healthier relationship with food. I also love how strong I'm becoming, and I know this will help me enjoy activities with my kids this summer. I had a good conversation with myself last night. I was feeling restless and possibly wanting to munch on something, so I sat with that thought. Am I hungry? What else could it be? Is this just because I habitually ate when everybody else went to bed? I ended up with a hot cup of tea, my new favorite TV show, and some quiet time alone WITHOUT gorging. That's a win because it's not giving in to old habits.

Karen - day 20 - Way to Go!

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I'm just weighing myself less often. Then I don't focus on the daily ups and downs, and when I've had a good N day and don't see a loss (of anything) or even perhaps a gain, it won't derail me. Today makes Day 20 for me, and I haven't gotten tired of eating like this at all. In fact, it's freeing and wonderful to look forward to meals, and cook good food for my family.

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The weight loss issue is so muddling, I think. Some people do succeed by setting out to manipulate weight, but it takes a lot of emotional distance that most women, it seems to me, don't have, especially if they've tried and failed, or succeeded and regained.

At some point in the future, after you feel you've really established a very strong habit of moderate intake and exercise, you still feel too heavy AND you see that you could actually happily eat a little less and move more, you might target it. But get there first and then decide. Only you can tell just how much focus on it you can live with and be happy.

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Talk to me about fear. I'm getting a bit of backlash from my subconscious today. Thoughts of, "what if I do all this exercise and I still don't lose weight", are creeping up a bit. Not overwhelmingly, they're just hanging out in the back of my mind. I don't want to derail my progress by giving in to these negative, destructive thoughts. So what if I don't lose weight, at least I'll be much healthier! I get so tired of these mind games.

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