Burton might say they have XL, but I have never seen a pair (well in the last 3 yrs) I have been making do and squishing into a large. I love burton pants, so many pockets, I am a bit addicted to pockets cause i hate carrying a big bag.
i don't have this particular problem -- my issues have to do with boob-waist ratio. however, as a person with an apparently freakish shape (according to manufacturers) who always has to do extra shopping and/or tailoring, i feel your pain, so i did some googling:
Ski Pant made with our butter soft Nylon Twill waterproof outerfabric, with microfleece lining.
• High Back waist has microfleece lined band complete with belt loops and adjustable waist tabs at sides tunneling inside back of waist. • Two verticle pockets front and one cargo leg pocket on left front, all with zip closures. • Two back zip closed pockets. • Also featuring two zip side vents w/ mesh back. • Added gusset at crotch. • Critical seams taped.
and for jackets, all i found in my quick search was this:
Aaww short isn't bad. Now that I have lost weight I really can wear kids size 14 again. Kids and junior cloths have less curves than the women's sizes which works out well when the only curves you have is on top. I can also fit kids size 3.5 shoes. Much cheaper and often the same style as women shoes.
I already own a business!!! I can't start making clothing too! .... but maybe if I end up selling out ever.... hmmm.....
I have tried Columbia, the plus sized clothing does not have any performance features to them. They're great for running around town, playing with kids, making snowmen, but not so great for sweating on the hill, or keeping snow out of my cuffs. Their plus sized pants don't have any waterproof rating.. they are only 'water resistant'. Great company, really great products, just not what I've been wanting on the hill.
What I wouldn't give to be short for a bit!! I'm a whopping 5'9" and I measured my waist tonight out of curiosity to see how close I am to anything fitting...
My waist... I'm not proud to admit.. is 43 inches around... my goal, is to buy some stinking pants that fit next season.
I know it's a vanity thing, but MAN, am I ready for some better gear.
I know that Columbia was making extended sixes for women and you could get them at REI.com for a while. Their stuff is usually pretty normal looking. They do make some things in patterns but it usually also comes in like blue or black as well.
They're just messed up all over the board... 1. My husband is an XXL and works outside all day, making snow, grooming, patrolling, fixing lifts, etc. Hardly anyone makes his size in quality apparel (and we order right from the manufacturer), and if they do (Karbon)--they're out of it by the time our order deadlines are in! (Orders for next year have to be placed by 3/31 out east, about 4 weeks after our trade show, BUT all the western shops and resorts get to place their orders in January and usually get dibs on the coolest stuff.) Columbia and White Sierra also make his size, but that's not for serious weather at all.
2. After losing weight I'm actually in a small size, but the xs pants I ordered from Karbon are too big! Way too big! And sorry, I'm not really smaller than an xs. I ended up wearing my daughter's size 12 youth, which is ridiculous.
3. Believe it or not, I'm loving Scott Apparel (yup, the goggle company.) I don't have stats right here, but I ended up ordering from them b/c they were the only ones to carry something that would fit me and still have it in stock in December, and I love them!
So there, addition to your rant!
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Over the years I've have spent countless hours looking for jackets and pants made for a woman that fit me.
I have yet to find any.
There are quite a few of my regular social circle on the slopes who are firm believers in being at the height of snow fashion while riding at the hill...
I'm not one of those fashion monkeys. Skiing for me is not a fashion show. It's a hobby, it's a sport, I'd rather wow them with my carving than my snappy goggles that are this season's graphics.
I still want a jacket that fits. I want a powder skirt. I want inner wrist covers to keep snow out of my sleeves when I bite it. I want 10,000 or higher waterproof ratings, taped seams and breathability. I want to be able to lift my arms to put my helmet on without showing my belly button. I'd like to have under arm zips for those days when working up a sweat is guaranteed. I want my pants to be long enough and have some venting as well.
I live in Minnesota... if you don't like the weather, wait an hour. Those zippers are vital.
Manufacturers make jackets and pants that can fit the bill for function, but they make them for tiny little women with itty bitty bodies and a short torso and they often make them in the girliest colors imaginable.
1- Someone older than 12 might want to snowboard or ski. 2- Not every woman has a small frame. 3- We all belong on the slopes... every one of us... regardless of our size...
So here are some interesting stats.
The North Face's largest women's pants are an XL and they say that's a size 16. The waist is 32.25-34in and the hips are from 42-44.
Arc'teryx Women's largest women's pants are an XL and they say that's a size 16-18. The waist is 36in and the hip 47. Getting better, but I'm still not getting in there with my long johns on.
Patagonia Women's largest women's pants are an XL and they say that's a size 16. The waist is 33.5 and the hips 44.
Spyder-Women's largest women's pants are an XL and they say that's a size 16 with 33 and 43 for waist and hips.
Cloudveil Women's largest is also XL/size 16. Waist 32 and hips 43.
(is it just me, but I thought that a man's waist at 32 is like a medium, or a small.... )
And it gets better...
Burton Women's XL pants are a 31-32 inch waist and they don't even bother pretending it's comparable to a size.
So that brings me to Marmot... who is thinking about trying.
They have one or two pair of pants that go to an XXL. For the vast majority of their women's pants the XL is the largest at a 33-35 inch waist and a 44-46 inch hip.
For the few items you can find where the sizing is different(like the Marmot Randonnee Pant) you can get up to a 37-39 inches in the waist and 46 to 48inches in the hips for an XL and the XXL is 40-42 and 50 to 52.
Of course, that particular pair of pants is $270 to $300 bucks and I've never seen an XXL in stock anywhere.
I'm not sure my point of all this, but sometimes it's just nice to get this stuff off my chest.
Ski attire for women is in my top ten pet peeves of ALL time.
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