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11/16/12 9:29 A

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I'm just greedy! :p Someone told me about a supp called Citrimax and how it helps with cravings and all of that gushy stuff. For the past few days I haven't been craving and sticking to my diet so I'm not sure what's going on...maybe it was a phase? I haven't even been backloading much either. ODD!

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11/15/12 1:36 A

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Maybe that's why you've been having some "issues" ANDI.

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11/14/12 11:10 P

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That's a great article Laura. It explains why isolated proteins can really mess with your health in the long run even causing muscle wasting. Here's a good quote from the article:

"If chronically consumed in large amounts (such as with bodybuilders or athletes) without alkalizing foods, it can acidify your body and over time may lead to metabolic acidosis with consequences that include waste of muscle and bone tissues, total metabolic shut down, and increased vulnerability to degenerative disease."

That's enough warning for me.
I say always read the labels carefully. Some protein powders (and bars) have both concentrated protein AND isolated protein. They do that in order to run the protein numbers up so people who want a lot of protein will use them.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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11/14/12 11:14 A

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crap meaning all of the "other" stuff they add in most whey concentrates on the market. There are better quality ones that costs a lot so in that case I cannot buy any. If you whey has protein and stevia then that's awesome, but most affordable ones don't unfortunately. :( I have just been doing egg whites when I need a filler instead of going with the whey.

For me...a whey protein supplement isn't necessary - I thought it was especially for muscle building. I've been feeding my muscles after workout with both whey and egg whites + a simple carb and I see no difference. Also, I'm saving some cash at the same time. If I need a filler like I said I go with egg whites just once a day in addition to my current diet because of the sodium content eggs have - I have water retention issues, but that's another story.

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11/14/12 11:09 A

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I don't know if there is any CRAP in my concentrate. lol. My powder is simply whey protein concentrate and stevia....

Here's a good article for ANI. I know how she disagrees with whey protein

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powerful-antioxidant.aspx


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BLACKANDI's Photo BLACKANDI Posts: 12,602
11/14/12 9:23 A

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I'm a whey isolater here when I do ingest whey. I find that the quality is better, less crap is in isolate, absorbs better, and it mixes better IMO. I cook for myself and still eat other stuff in addition to. I eat my clean food...not full...so I go for the snacks and what not. Good tips though. Jotted them down.

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11/13/12 10:21 P

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Well, I do end up with a LOT of whey, much more than I could consume. I add it to things that I bake and cook and add some to the soaking water for grains, seeds and nuts for the necessary acid component. It helps to remove the enzyme inhibitors in nuts and phytic acid in grains making these foods much easier to digest and helps keep the foods fresh while soaking. But honestly, most of my whey is poured over my dog's food. They LOVE it! None of it is ever wasted. I have friends who raise chickens and they say their chickens really go after it. If I ever get chickens I might try it. I need to try it with my ducks--they will probably just try to swim in it...LOL!

I don't see any fat whatsoever in whey. If there was fat left in it it would rise to the top just like in the milk. I think the fat goes into the curd when making cheese. What does rise to the top in the whey is a layer of bright white protein particles. And that is only when I haven't made ricotta with the whey which pulls those protein bits out and turns them into the ricotta.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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11/13/12 9:17 P

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Thos look good!

I don't eat isolated whey either. When I get whey protein it's just concentrated WHEY. There are two kinds of whey protein powders.
It's funny. When I googled the difference the author of the site I was reading, Tom Venuto, said you should never eat raw whey because of the fat (which I don't think is so bad) but also because of the high amount of milk sugar. I think you eat it all the time don't you ANI?

Anyhow, makes no difference to me. Different strokes for different folks. Just a different WHEY to eat the same stuff I guess. lol


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11/13/12 9:02 P

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But then, I'm not going after the mega-protein thing when I eat one of those; I just want something to quiet my hunger and my sweet cravings. I avoid isolated proteins anyway and most high protein snacks are full of those things. Sometimes they have artificial sweeteners in them too like sucralose. You young girls who work out a lot have a different diet plan and have different needs. My philosophy is basically: You can't fool Mother Nature!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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11/13/12 8:53 P

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I hope you get to 100% again too Blackandi. Maybe you don't cook much for yourself and that is why you haven't found the "full factor" in healthy sweet things--just guessing here.

There are a lot of really good bar-type treats on the commercial market. Bars that are sweetened only with things like dates, bananas and other sweet foods. Some of them are quite filling especially if eaten right after a healthy meal. If you do that you will be stuffed!

I like this one but there are many more:
Betty Lou's Just Great Stuff bars - Chocolate Dream Greens
$17.75/case of 12 at Azure Standard

ORAC Antioxidant Value of 21,700 (tested by credible laboratory, Brunswick Labs)
Organic Certified
Vegan
Gluten-Free
Fruits include: Dates, Raisins, Bananas
Freeze-dried Veggies: Carrot, Spinach, Kale, Broccoli Sprout
Protein source: Organic Rice Protein & Cashews
“Organic chocolate meets healthy fruits and veggies in this unique bar. As an experiment one day we took our delicious Organic Fruit & Veggie bar and drenched it in rich, organic dark chocolate. The result was “dreamy!” Your mouth won’t know your eating whole fruits, nuts and freeze dried organic veggies, but your body will! Enjoy one of these nutrient-rich bars today!” -Krista Shepard, Betty Lou’s Inc. Nutritional Scientist

INGREDIENTS: Organic Dried Fruit Blend [Organic Raisins, Organic Dates, Organic Bananas (with organic rice flour)], Organic Raw Cashews, Organic Dark Chocolate (Organic Cane Sugar, Organic Cocoa Liquor, Organic Cocoa Butter, Organic Vanilla), Organic Tapioca Syrup, Organic Freeze-Dried Vegetable Blend (Organic Carrot Juice, Organic Spinach Leaf, Organic Broccoli Sprouts, Organic Kale), Organic Rice Protein, Sunflower Lecithin, Organic Vanilla Extract, Organic Sunflower Oil, Sea Salt.

Nutrition Facts:

Serving Size 1 bar (42g)

Calories 180
Calories from Fat 70
Total Fat 8g 12%
Saturated Fat 2.5g 13%
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 25mg 1%
Total Carbohydrate 23g 8%
Dietary Fiber 2g 8%
Sugars 16g
Protein 4g
Vitamin A 15%
Vitamin C 10%
Calcium 2%
Iron 8%

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11/13/12 4:19 P

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starchy carbs don't fill my belly...i need the full factor. I workout a lot. I need the sugar for energy. I'm still getting results, but I worry about eating healthy a lot. Id like to get to 100% again.

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11/13/12 4:14 P

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For me, carbs are fruit, or brown rice, sweet potatoes, maybe some rye or spelt bread. Homemade of course.

Different carbs from ANDI's lol

I avoid sugar 100% so no carbs from sugar or refined carbs.

Edited by: FIT_ARTIST at: 11/13/2012 (16:18)
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I'm so ashamed to say...processed crap like churros, italian rolls and crap in boxes like cookies...crap.

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11/13/12 4:05 P

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When you guys talk about carbs are you talking about the starchy carbs. Refined carbs? All carbs?

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Yeah. I sort of went a bit nutty last spring after not having carbs for a long time. That's why I have them every second day now.

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BLACKANDI's Photo BLACKANDI Posts: 12,602
11/13/12 10:24 A

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I'm having trouble eating clean so I added in the back loading toward the end of my eating window - I eat two bad things a day rather than eating bad all day like I've been doing for the past two months. So we'll see what happens.

Not sure what happened in September, but I have been going carb crazy PMS time or not. Not sure what's going on. I think that I've carb deprived myself for a year so now it's catching up with me. Trying to control it before it gets out of hand and with the holidays coming...

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11/13/12 10:18 A

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I'm just doing some carb cycling. And switching higher intensity and lower intensity exercise days. Seems to be working really well (with IF). Down another 2 lbs this week and it's only Tuesday. Yay!

Edited by: FIT_ARTIST at: 11/13/2012 (10:19)
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11/13/12 10:06 A

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Sounds good!

I'm dabbling in carb back loading at the moment. :p

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11/11/12 9:14 A

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That is cool!

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11/11/12 7:04 A

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WoW! After reading about a possible name change in a post yesterday, I thought that Eat Well would make a great name, thought about suggesting it, but didn't, so you can imagine my surprise when I received the Team Weekly Digest and it read "Eat Well". emoticon emoticon



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11/11/12 12:01 A

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Love the new name. Thanks for all your hard work!

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I'm in!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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emoticon love it!

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Great idea!!

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11/10/12 2:50 P

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cool!

Please, Please watch and listen for motorcycles while your out and about!

Peace, Love & Hugs
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I like it! Thanks for all of your hard work. It's great that the team continues to stay current with the most up to date nutritional info.

Remember, nobody can go back to the very beginning and make a brand new start, but anyone can start here and make a brand new end.

There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when it's convenient. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses; only results."

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After much consideration and consultation with other team members, I have decided to change the name of the team. I have found that the same "rules" do not apply to everyone as outlined by the "Clean Eating rules" by Tosca Reno. A lot of her ideas are good ones, but I'm no longer on board with all of them.

It will take me a bit of time to change some of the stickies and the names of the team cookbooks. However, the recipes and main principles of the team will remain unchanged. Healthy, wholesome, unprocessed foods as nature has intended will still be the focus along with information on wholesome ingredients and recipes and sharing recipes.

It is my intent that this change will encompass everyone and their particular lifestyles (vegans, vegetarians, paleos, primals, low carbers, high carbers, athletes, raw foodists, etc), so that no one is excluded.

I am also going to develop a new team image...

Hope you all welcome the change. Change is GOOD!



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