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10/29/12 12:17 P

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Hope I'm not boring everybody. Here's some more information:
From:
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How is Coconut Cream Concentrate different from canned coconut milks and creams?

Commercial coconut milks and creams are generally sold in cans, or sometimes boxes and tetra packs. The main ingredient in these products is water. If the fat content is 17%, it is called "coconut milk." If the fat content is 24%, it is called "coconut cream." But most of what you are purchasing is water. Coconut Cream Concentrate, on the other hand, has NO water, and is pure coconut. Unlike the commercial varieties, it also contains ALL the fiber of the coconut. Pure, dried coconut contains more fiber per gram than even oat bran! This fiber has been stripped out of commercial coconut milks and coconut creams. Also, almost all commercial coconut milks and creams have additives to prevent the water from separating from the coconut oil, and also have sulfites added to keep it white longer. Sometimes these additives are so small, that the FDA does not require them to list them on their labels as ingredients. Coconut Cream Concentrate, however, contains NO additives and NO preservatives at all: it is 100% natural coconut made from certified organic Philippine coconuts grown without pesticides or fertilizers. Coconut Cream Concentrate comes packaged in 1 pint or 1 quart glass jars.

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Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 10/29/2012 (12:22)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when itís a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, theyíre terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/29/12 12:14 P

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This is the coconut milk I buy. I make coconut cream out of it by first chilling the can and then scooping the hardened "cream" off the top and whipping it with my emersion blender whisk attachment
www.edwardandsons.com/native_shop_co
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Here are detailed instructions with photos on how to make whipped cream out of a can of coconut milk
ohsheglows.com/2012/08/30/coconut-wh
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Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 10/29/2012 (12:22)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when itís a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, theyíre terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/29/12 12:10 P

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Here's a little tidbit by somebody
huntgatherlove.com/content/so-delici
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Beware of carrageenan and vitamin D2. and the other "fortifications" which are usually synthetic and not really healthy at all.

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 10/29/2012 (12:12)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when itís a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, theyíre terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/29/12 12:05 P

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For me, I don't trust any of the "So Delicious" stuff. If that's all you can get, "so" be it...LOL.
I will try to get back to you on this. I can't remember what my trouble was with "So Delicious"; it might be because of the company that is behind it...or something like that.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when itís a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, theyíre terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/29/12 9:26 A

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I get So Delicious Coconut Cream for tea and coffee in the dairy section at Vitamin Cottage/Natural Grocers. It's located with the Silk Soy products in my store and they have a hard time keeping it in stock.

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Where do you find coconut cream?

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10/29/12 1:00 A

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So Delicious coconut cream is not organic, but at least it isn't canned. I don't have access to raw. I don't think my neighbors would let me get away with having a cow in the back yard. I will say that I was surprised by how good non-homogenized milk tastes. I've been mostly gluten and dairy free lately on my doc's recommendation. It is making weight loss easier.

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10/28/12 3:20 P

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Coconut cream is probably a lot easier for our bodies to digest; it's not the same as a dairy product. Of course it might depend on the brand you are using and if it's organic or not. Lots of variables there. But from what I'm learning this ultra-pasteurization of dairy products is really bad. My guess is that your coconut cream is a healthier choice than ultra-pasteurized anything! but, of course, IMHO, fresh, raw cream is the best kind of cream ever.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when itís a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, theyíre terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/28/12 3:15 P

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I've been buying coconut cream for coffee and tea. I think it's highly processed, probably as much as the ulta pasteurized half and half. I don't know of any other options. emoticon

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Yes, I hope things change here to...for the better, that is. But you know what I fear? If raw milk DOES become legal the big dairy producers will jump on it as a profit center, the USDA will regulate it and only God knows how corrupt the whole thing will get. I am almost more content just getting my milk from a neighbor...or having my own cow if need be. Things are getting so weird.

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10/28/12 2:52 P

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Well. There are no antibiotics or hormones allowed in our milk. Any of it. So, I guess in that way, I hope things change for your milk in the USA. lol

I'm not actually sure "how pasteurized" any of the grocery store milk is. I just know that it all tastes very flat. It just says "pasteurized" Except the lightly pasteurized, non homogonized stuff that I get at the health food store.
It costs about $6 per litre. My raw milk was $12 per gallon. So, it is all expensive.

I just don't drink cow's milk anymore.... if I get back to my old town, I go to the health food store for a milk treat.

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10/28/12 1:23 P

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Well, that's a total bummer. So no dairy products just say "pasteurized"? Not that I like to eat pasteurized dairy but when I do (like for half & half in coffee and tea) I always buy a brand that says just "pasteurized". It also says "No rBGH" which is a plus.

Sometimes I buy a non-homoginized milk at my health food store that is from a local organic dairy that states "lightly pasteurized" but it's VERY expensive. I only buy their non-fat milk to make kefir because getting all the cream off the raw milk is impossible (in my simple kitchen!). Doing kefir that way is actually cheaper than buying ready-made kefir. And I found out through experience that the cream left in the milk cultures differently than the milk underneath and gives a strange flavor to the kefir.

Sure hope things change for you in Canada.

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Thanks ANI. It was my understanding that all our dairy has been ultra-pasteurized. Can't stand the taste of it.

I can fin milk hat is "lightly-pasteurized" and non-homogonized at the health food store. I find it tastes a lot closer to raw. Since I can't get raw anymore.

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Gotta stay on your toes in the grocery store! this is from:
grannysvitalvittles.com/on-being-tri
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So whatís the difference between pasteurized and ultra-pasteurized milk?
Is this really a big deal? Yes, it is. Ultra-pasteurized dairy products do not require refrigeration before opening and have a shelf life of months. They are a highly processed food. But I know itís really easy to overlook the difference. I myself made this mistake for an extended length of time. I was buying Horizonís Ultra-Pasteurized Whipping Cream and depended heavily on it in my cooking:

It was organic and the best product available to me, or so I thought. Every now and then a nagging sense that I was repressing awareness of something truly important would surface but Iíd just shove it back down again. It seemed the only realistic choice so I just didnít want to look too deeply at it. What would I do without my organic ultra-pasteurized heavy whipping cream? I was aware it was ultra pasteurized but didnít know much about what that meant. I knew Sally Fallon stated pretty flatly to avoid ultra pasteurized dairy, but I reasoned how much worse could it be than simple pasteurized milk? And this went on for several years. I never tried to educate myself on the differences in pasteurization.

Then kinda by accident I came to understand fully what ultra pasteurized milk was in terms I could digest. It has a shelf life of months. Six to nine months. In europe they donít bother to refrigerate it at all. Here in America itís in the refrigerated section only because the sight of room temperature milk doesnít get people reaching for their wallets! Emotionally this struck a chord with me, making me realize this is a very unnatural product. It became associated with hydrogenated oil and twinkies in my mind. I was horrified. And very angry at myself for not taking this seriously when those nagging doubts would arise. Now be aware that weíve bought this for years and itís been a staple of our diet. I believe now that it was associated with some health problems that just wonít seem to go away. Iím still working to reduce them now.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when itís a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, theyíre terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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