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10/26/12 2:20 P

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Really good article. emoticon

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10/26/12 1:54 P

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Here's an article from Chris Kresser on the benefits of local organic food in response to the hoopla from the media that tries to convince people that there's no advantage in it. He quotes Mark Sisson
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Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 10/26/2012 (13:55)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/24/12 4:55 P

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Laura, you have taken the time to educate yourself and listen to your body and that's what makes you an awesome leader here. You're not so quick to believe any of the advertising rot but quicker to believe what you experience. Yes, isn't it sad how people are so thoughtlessly convinced about what they hear on TV and read in the magazines and on food labels.
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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/24/12 1:51 P

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I know that nutritional labels are allowed to be out by 10 or 15%.... something like that. So if you look at calories. If is says a serving is 100 calories, it may actually be 115....

I know organic labels don't allow GMOs. I suppose that's why I always buy organic when possible. I pretty much make most of my foods from scratch. So, for me it's not a huge thing. But, there are many who don't... emoticon

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10/24/12 1:23 P

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I have to go back and read the proposed bill to see if there is a percentage or level of GMO in a product that will make it a GMO product. If so, then corps can add labels like Non-GMO or GMO free...something genius like that. I'll be back!

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10/24/12 1:10 P

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Good article, very informative. I especially like that he wrote a paragraph near the bottom letting us know that we can avoid GMOs just by eating plain, healthy, fresh, organic stuff as is recommended by the Paleo diet.

The unfortunate thing is that if this legislation goes through, a jar of spaghetti sauce (for example) will be labeled "GMO free" and just like the labels that say "No Trans Fats", there will be a likely chance that there will be a percentage of GMOs in the spaghetti sauce. I fear it will be another joke just like the "USDA Organic" label--all neatly packaged to not hurt the big food manufacturers. I don't like this.

For me the dangers of GMOs are a no brainer. That doesn't mean I understand and know ALL the particulars that Mark and others write about. I don't need all the technical and lab rat info to just know beyond any doubt that messing with the genetic makeup of our food is a very bad idea. Hello!

I would much rather that the decent, ethical food companies continue to volunteer honest and proud labeling and that we support the non-government, non-interested organizational watchdogs to certify and regulate our foods.

I would much rather see our money put into more ads and educational media teaching people about our food system (which is already happening YAY!).

I want the government OUT of my food. Why should I trust them?? Have they ever really done anything to make our cultural diet better?? GAAAAH

Education, NOT legislation!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/24/12 12:40 P

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I really like how Mark explains things...
www.marksdailyapple.com/should-you-w
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10/23/12 10:00 A

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The thing that is really bothering me is that this legislation will hurt many good sustainable farmers like Joel Salatin. I want to fight for him. We could easily lose the small farmer, the sustainable farmer if this legislation passes. The mega corp farms can afford this; the small farmers can't.
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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Shopping for produce today.
Will choose as much organic as possible.

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Monsanto is spending tons of money to defeat this legislation, so makes me think it must be a good thing. Of course you are correct in assuming that any legislation will be corrupted by the feds. I just have to keep hoping that maybe one day we'll get it right.

Remember, nobody can go back to the very beginning and make a brand new start, but anyone can start here and make a brand new end.

There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when it's convenient. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses; only results."

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10/22/12 11:08 P

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I'm still not convinced that this labeling law is a good thing. And I LOVE organic and sustainable farming and support it with all I've got! I just don't trust the government to not bugger it up like they did the USDA organic standards rules. What a joke that has turned out to be. You'll see, even if this thing passes there will still be un-labeled GMO stuff in our foods but it will be even harder to see because the gov will be working with and protecting the corporations...as usual.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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We try to buy organic as much as possible too. I sure hope CA voters pass the GMO labeling amendment.

Remember, nobody can go back to the very beginning and make a brand new start, but anyone can start here and make a brand new end.

There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when it's convenient. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses; only results."

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Prefer organic whenever possible.

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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/22/12 5:42 P

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I sure miss my raw milk. emoticon

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I still believe that when given the choice a person is better off choosing organic over conventional unless you are aware of the certain produce items that are grown with minimum or no pesticides There's a chart on that too. Some things aren't worth paying the organic premium for because the conventionally grown ones are safe. You gotta know which ones though because some things, like peaches, apples, spinach and lettuce for example are LOADED with toxic stuff.

When I posted on the other thread concerning the GMO labeling and organic twisting by big corp, I was mainly referring to the way food is processed and handled.
Example:
A lovely, happy cow can graze on an organically maintained pasture and beautiful, highly nutritious milk will come out. Okay, good so far. Then that top-of-the-line milk is put into a big tanker, mixed with milk from other organic farms, trucked off to a processing facility where it is ultra-pasteurized, homogenized and turned into something our bodies simply can't digest. Other organic and ultra-pasteurized/homogenized dairy products on the grocery store shelves are then mixed with all kinds of other ingredients to make products that are shelf stable, sugary and convenient to the uneducated public. Look at most "organic" yogurts for example. Yogurt should contain only milk and culture...period. There are a gizillion other examples of perfectly healthy organic produce items that are turned into absolute junk. Like many protein bars for another example...isolated whey protein being just one shoddy ingredient...sheeese.

Upshot:
Stick to organic and stick to plain, un-refined foods--shop around the edges of the store, buy and freeze or put it up in some way, local, organic produce when it is in season. Get to know suppliers. But do buy organic whenever you can. Support the good farmers. Support local.

We... ahem, my dh, goes through a LOT of half & half for his tea every day. I do not buy organic half & half but I buy a local dairy brand that supplies all the smaller and independent grocery stores and convenience stores here in the NW. This dairy does not ultra-pasteurize their dairy products and they do not use growth hormones. These are things to look for.

Most of the milk I buy is from a neighbor and it is raw. That is the milk we drink and what I use to make cheese. I understand that there aren't many people who have this option. Keep looking for it; it's out there. And don't believe the scare tactics of the raw-milk-is-dangerous-crowd. They just don't know and they are promoting more government/industry control to the food we eat.
www.realmilk.com/where03.html

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 10/22/2012 (19:39)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/22/12 4:43 P

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And God knows who was touching it on the way to, and at the grocery store! It's all gotta get washed thoroughly anyhow! lol

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They don't get into the mess of chemicals and pesticides, but they said that pediatricians view organic and non-organic the same way so I'm going to -- assume -- here that they are saying that organic food has just as much of that stuff in it as non-organic. *shrugs*

Hey, unless I grow it myself I can't fully believe that food that's marked organic is organic even though I do choose organic over non-organic almost all the time if it's available.

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10/22/12 4:10 P

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For me... eating organic food isn't so much about getting more nutritious food. It's more about what's NOT in my food. lol


The article doesn't mention that there are heavy metals in many pesticides. And also, regulating bodies have "acceptable levels" of heavy metal toxicity (as well as "safe levels" of radiation, etc).
For me, NONE of it is tolerable, especially when it comes to growing children.

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organic came up in the gmo-labeling post i made today with that colorful chart...the article says nothing that i haven't heard before.


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