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9/14/12 3:29 P

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Funny you should say that. I used to LOVE coconut, and now I'm sort of sick of it. I "overdid" it I suppose. lol

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9/14/12 3:27 P

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OK that's why they have coconut every where in their meal plans...I just can't get with the taste sometimes. Too much coconut turns me off.

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9/14/12 3:25 P

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Well. Too much fruit may not be good for you. I will eat 1 cup of berries (raspeberries or blueberries) per day. Sometimes a banana. Occasionally both! But, not usually.
And I may eat two servings of whole grain. Avoiding gluten it is usually 1/2 cup brown and/or wild rice.
Anyhow, there is a ton of antioxidants that can only be found in fruit. So,...

FYI; coconut is a nut.

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9/14/12 3:20 P

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Someone in the FB discussion noted that link as a reference, but the topic of the FB discussion is that fruit is bad for you period. Fruit has simple sugar like a processed candy bar does and does nothing good for the body. So Paleo's get their energy from, it looks like, sweat potatoes, fibrous veggies...coconut (isn't coconut a fruit?? - but it hasn't been GMO maybe), grapefruit (another fruit), some berries (though I am confused by this - I need to get a good book about Paleo - they favor blueberries a lot), spices, nuts (no peanuts), seeds and that's about it I think. Most fruits are GMO so they are not good for you anyway is what they are saying and then you factor in it's a simple carb you body doesn't need it. Can get those other benefits from simple carbs and grains from other foods is what I think they are trying to say...just saying...I don't know.

I don't really eat fruit like that so I'm OK with the whole sugar kills thing. :p

I don't think anyone would be hungry if they increased their protein intake if they dropped all simple and grain carbs.

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9/14/12 3:07 P

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Yep, same here! Great discussion though


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9/14/12 3:03 P

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Also hungry because the body doesn't treat that carb the same. That sugar carb is digested very quickly and then the body experiences a sugar crash. (as well as the fact that there is no food in there).
With the yogurt, the carb is accompanied by fat and protein. This slows digestion. Therefor the carb doesn't immediately turn to glycogen, as is the case with the sugar.

I guess the article could be true if we dissected our food apart in a processed manner. Much like separating egg whites from egg yolks and cream from milk.
We could just sit down and eat our "macros" to perfection. Now THAT would be something! lol
But, alas, our carbs come IN food. So.... except for those processed, simple carbs.


Anyhow... that's enough for me today.
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Edited by: FIT_ARTIST at: 9/14/2012 (15:06)
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9/14/12 2:59 P

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Because they are hungry! The equal amount of carbs in the sugar that equals the yogurt for example is (and I am guessing), let's say a spoon... versus eating 25 spoons of yogurt. Which would you choose? The carb amount is the same but your going to be hungry in no time.

Just voicing a different angle - these days I have NO IDEA what is truthful anymore... I am learning this new eating behavior now and it has made a big difference. And when I choose a less filling substitute, I am hungry before the next meal - but I met my nutrient requirements for my meal plan.

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OK. So if I eat straight white sugar it's my body treats that the same if I had gotten an equal amount of carbs from let's say carbs from veggies for example. Some starchy veggies like carrots, or carbs from broccoli. Or perhaps a slice of rye and sesame seed bread.
The carb is a carb???

You are saying that our bodies treat that the same?

So IF that's true, why do body builders eat non-fat or low fat dairy? Way more carbs in there than in full fat dairy.

No. We are all entitled to our opinions.
For me, the article: It's baloney.

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9/14/12 2:52 P

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I think I agree with a carb is a carb perspective when talking about fruit for this reason. Program I am on talks about a serving of fruit as it equals 15g of carbs, PERIOD. So, if I choose to eat a Banana, it is only 56g weight of banana that equates to 15g of carbs - not much banana. But that same 15g of carbs is better in an apple at 105g weight... but even better for the strawberries, which you get 106g of strawberries. Each is still ONLY 15g of carbs.

That is why I agree, but only as it pertains to looking at it in that context. Same with swapping out bread for potatoes, or rice, or whatever... I can have 150 g of potatoes at a meal, but if I am craving corn for instance, it equates to about 126gms of weight.. not as much food. The carbs are the same, the amount of food you get is different.

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9/14/12 2:43 P

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OK. So I read that article. What he is basically saying is that for BODYBUILDERS a carb is a carb. People who are basically of good health.
The GI and insulin load he says has nothing to do with fit people.
But, it most certainly does with people who are tryng to achieve health. That's for sure.

I don't know... I think the article is a bunch of baloney. lol Sorry. Just sayin'

Really glad is diet is going well for him! :)



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Yes!

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Ummm...yeah...another thing...I have been IFing since June 28, 2012. LOL!!! I follow Lean Gains for reference and yes, it works for fat loss! But I think we will need a whole other thread for IF. :p

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Well. I am all for eating less grain and sugar. And maybe a carb is a carb. However, I do feel that we need some carbs. Whether it be from fruit or whole grains... (simlple carbs are not really food. Simple carbs come from processed means).
I just don't believe we need more than 2-3 servings per day.

However.... carbs from fruit and whole grain are different from simple carbs in that there is fibre that comes with the carb. This slows digestion thus making it of a lower GI.

I think how much carb we eat is an individual thing. People are just made differently. Some people get more exercise. Maybe different types of exercise.
Endurance exercise requires carbs or there may be a problem down the road... all depends.

Now... should we discuss intermittent fasting? lol

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www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-o
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There is an argument or some hate or some debating on a Facebook page I follow about sugar/carbs and how they are equal. Take note these people are Paleo people and I guess I could say I am a Paleo person at the moment since I choose my carbs wisely and stay away from grains...totally off topic so I'll get to the point.

An interesting thing someone said was that fruit is bad for you because most it like 95% of fruit is GMO whether organic or not...which I didn't know and that the body looks at a carb whether it's complex or simple as a carb being equal.

I have, before even learning about Paleo, removed fruit out of my diet about 90% of the time limiting myself to berries and apples because when I'm trying to cut body fat I can't do it if fruit is in my diet.

Anyone have any thoughts on this topic? I'm interested.

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