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Yeah. You would definitely want to know if you had celiac. Much bigger issue then. The put wheat and gluten in the darndest places!

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7/29/12 4:22 P

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Right
I think I need to know how gluten affected I am. Am I just sensitive or maybe have celiacs because I've been reading some of this...
It apparently affects me when I eat, but I've been reading how there is wheat in non food things like toothpaste, shampoo, lotion, nail polish, soap ect.
I don't see myself changing brands in stuff, but I think it is just best to know!


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7/29/12 3:48 P

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That's right. For me, I knew about 1 week after getting rid of gluten that I had made the right choice. But my doc also said it did show up in my test results that I was sensitive to it.
Good luck with all of this. When things don't go down right it is just plain AWFUL!

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7/29/12 3:42 P

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Yes, I think I still do need the test though. I mean, it would help rule it out or not. Plus, I think I should just have it done. Better to be sure and know it that to wonder if it was something else.

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7/27/12 11:44 A

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DAGNY99. It is true that you should eat gluten up until the test, but most for most people gluten sensitivity doesn't show up in the test. Gluten can also take days or weeks to come out of your system, so if you feel better without it then do you really need the test?
Just sayin'...

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7/27/12 11:19 A

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I'm also soy and gluten free. I found out soy is just not good period and gluten keeps my tummy bloated no matter how small the amount consumed. I'm not allergic, just sensitive.

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7/23/12 8:27 P

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It says that you shouldn't stop eating gluten until you are tested. The anti bodies for that disappear after a few months if the people stop eating gluten.
So...I am going to eat what doesn't make me sick, even if it has wheat in it. Like the oatmeal doesn't bother me. Life Cereal doesn't bother me. But the bread, and the Lean cuisines bother me so I will not eat those.
Then I will bring it up at the Dr. Appointment...and maybe she will know what to test for.

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7/23/12 2:32 P

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I have a spastic gallbladder and can't have anything with preservatives or artificial colors or flavors. If I avoid them, I do ok. If I have them, I have lots of pain. Now my sister can't have anything with MSG in it, it will send her to the bathroom the minute it touches her stomach. I found this site for her on msg ........ www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensource
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It's very shocking.

I had to start writing down everything that I ate and whether or not it bother me, then I would go through the ingredients to see if there was anything in common with the other foods that bothered me.

I hope you find relief soon.

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7/23/12 6:06 A

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Has your doctor checked you for H Pylori? I'm not sure exactly what your symptoms are-
H.Pylori usually involves some diarrhea-it is easily treated by antibiotics,but it is contagious.

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7/22/12 10:41 P

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The gluten test doesn't always prove to be true, although mine did show that I was sensitive to gluten. But even if the results say you can tolerate it, it may not be so.
My feeling regarding gluten is that it really isn't all that healthy for anyone...



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7/22/12 9:39 P

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I had to pay out of pocket for my blood test...and go through a Holistic doctor. yes, it cost me $300.00 but it was money WELL spent.

Since you are hypothyroid I would watch with the soy for sure! Since I've been eating clean and I cut out the soy completely my thyroid levels were.38 ALMOST in HYPERTHYROID zone.

Crazy how a diet can change things

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7/22/12 8:48 P

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I never thought of MSG...that is possible too.
Well, I looked at some of the labels on things that bother me. Both the bread and croutons that affect me contain "wheat gluten" so obviously have gluten in them. They make me sick almost immediately after eating them.
On the other hand...maybe I am bad at reading labels here, but the croutons that don't bother me contain wheat and barely I think (but no "wheat gluten") and Life Cereal which contains wheat doesn't bother me.
Maybe as you say, it is mild in me...so maybe "wheat gluten" definitely affects me but simply wheat or a little wheat in certain foods don't do anything.
I will have to get my doctor to arrange a blood test to see if I am gluten intolerant. It would be more helpful to know what it is rather than just assuming it is everything. It will help me know what I can eat and what I can't.

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7/22/12 7:53 P

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What FIT_ARTIST meant is that all oat products will have gluten in them even if they don't say it on the label because they are most likely processed in a plant where other grains are being processed. So there is contamination issues. There are some oat products that will plainly say "gluten-free" on the label. Those are the only ones you can trust that are truly gluten-free. If it turns out that you do have a serious gluten intolerance, permanent or temporary, you will do well to be sure that what you eat is truly gluten-free.

You are right to try to only eat the cleanest foods that you can--not refined but fresh. Plain things that you then add your own seasonings to. And be careful of seasoning blends too--stick to just plain ones and mix them yourself. Labels don't always help because so many gluten-containing things are hidden in words that most people don't even understand.

Have you thought about MSG? Lots of people have problems because of it. And it also is hidden in labels where most people wouldn't be able to find it.

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7/22/12 6:28 P

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ANIDUCK-Ever since January when these symptoms really started becoming bothersome, I started taking probiotics. First I tried Align which is kind of expensive, I found there are less expensive ones. I took Digestive Advantage in a pink box for a while, I thought it was working but then I couldn't find it again. So I found what are called Pearls and they seem to have more probiotics in them than the Digestive Advantage (just reading the boxes and comparing) So I don't know which is "best" only that I have been taking what I can find at the store.
MRS.CARLY-I too am hypothyroid. I just got tested again to see where my levels are since I was wondering if it was slowing down again and a sluggish thyroid means a slower digestive system and that could be a reason why...I am going to see my doctor about my thyroid next month maybe I can get a blood test to see my food intolerance?
FIT_ARTIST-My oatmeal is 100% rolled oats...that is what it says in the ingredients and I don't think it really bothers my stomach like other foods.
Maybe I need to find a food that definitely contains gluten but no soy and eat it...and see how I feel. Then another time find a food that has soy but absolutely no gluten...and see how I feel. My symptoms are pretty much instantaneous most of the time. Like right after I eat I will know if it is going to affect my stomach or not.


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7/22/12 6:17 P

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Just another possibility to add to what others have said here.
It sounds like your digestivbe system (from mouth to...exit...ahem) might very well be lacking in good bacteria. Many people who have been diagnosed with gluten intolerance have this lack. Many things kill off our good intestinal bacteria--antibiotics, sugar (that's a BIG one) all kinds of refined foods. So it is good to look at all the possibilities that might cause the death of happy, healthy intestinal bacteria. Eating probiotic foods can really help. Yogurt is barely okay but things like NATURALLY fermented veggies (sauerkraut, etc.), kombucha, miso, fermented soy (unless you know for a fact that you are seriously allergic to soy in ANY form) like tamari sauce or tempeh. As a rule, most people in our culture have very messed up digestive tracks because of the death of our poor little bacteria. Very often this leads to an unhealthy imbalance of bacteria and yeasts. Bad yeasts will take over if the good stuff isn't fed...and you will feel yucky in your tummy among other symptoms.

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7/22/12 3:42 P

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It could be a combination of several things. I've been sick most of my life and just recently (last october) did a blood test and found out that I have a reaction to about 20 different foods. I'm actually allergic to eggs and yeast, but my intolerances include gluten, oats, casein and some beans. I tend to avoid all grains as it helps me to feel better overall.

I didn't show a reaction to soy, BUT soy hinders thyroid hormone production...since I'm hypothyroid I've been told to avoid soy.

Gluten seems to be a biggie though! I would definitely look into that! It sounds like your symptoms are somewhat mild. It may just be one thing. Maybe avoid gluten and soy for about 2 weeks, then introduce one at a time and see how you feel.

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7/22/12 2:18 P

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Well. Even whole foods may have gluten. Gluten is simply a protein that's found in many grains. You also have to watch for oats. Oats are gluten free but are often cross-contaminated. I buy the "wheat" or "gluten" free oats.
Here's a list of foods containing gluten:

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For me though, my "condition" isn't life threatening. If I avoid gluten and a little sneaks by now and then, there doesn't seem to be any major issues for my tummy.

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I have never thought of gluten so thanks for mentioning it!
I just googled it...I see that most soy sauces (unless they are gluten free) have gluten in them! Plus, I don't have any more packaged lean cuisine/healthy choice meals, but so far I have looked on the lean cuisine site and it does admit that most of their foods contain gluten.
So that could be another possibility.
I figure that eliminating alot of processed stuff will also eliminate gluten at the same time. I was going to stick to mostly whole foods like oatmeal, fruits & veggies (salads), homemade soups, and watch any packaged foods that I do eat to see if they have a common thing in them if they make me sick.

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7/22/12 1:54 P

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My niece is allergic to soy, but it gives her terrible eczema.
We suspect she may also be sensitive to gluten

I have had to cut out gluten. It gives me incredible gas and bloating. I can occasionally have some homemade self bread.

Have you tried eliminating gluten? It is notorious for causing digestive issues.

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So I am going to give eating clean a try again.
I've been having alot of stomach problems like gas and bloating (sorry if too much info) and the only thing I can think of is SOY. Does anyone know anything about if soy is bad for your stomach? I guess I always thought it was healthy...or there is another ingredient out there bothering me too.
It started when I quick bringing salads for lunch at work and began bringing lean cuisines & healthy choice meals. The produce wasn't as good, I was getting bad tomatoes & cucumbers ect. so I quit salads and moved to frozen foods...my stomach didn't seem to like the change!!
I have tried different gas-x pills and they don't seem to completely prevent it. So I finally wrote down a big list of everything that is bothering me...and the only link I can find is possibly soy.
Milk doesn't bother me and yogurt actually makes me feel better so I don't think it is a lactose problem.
Wheat items don't seem to bother me either...most of the time. Except after the lean cuisines disagreed with me I started packing a sandwich and still felt sick...my bread has "soy letichin" in?
But things like Chinese food (dishes with soy sauce) when I took my mom there to eat bothered me. Lean cuisines & healthy choices which most seem to have some soy in affect me. The bread (with soy letichin) bothers me.
Oddly grapes & raisins too bothered me so I quit eating those...not sure why.
So I don't know...has anyone read anything on this? Thanks for sharing. I just don't know what to eat that won't make me feel sick!!
Right now I am taking salads for lunch again since it is summer and the season for that produce. I found a salad dressing with no soy in it, all good, whole ingredients (think it is called simply dressed) I figure if I have too, maybe making my own dressing wouldn't be too hard.


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