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thanks KMORRIS246 for mentioning the salmonella thing. And thanks Laura for your straight forward answer which is absolutely right. For people not so familiar with the big differences between factory farming and small, local farming practices I just want to say that the difference is HUGE!! Factory animal farming is filthy, cruel and produces nutritionally deficient food products which are full of disease carrying bacteria. They try to cover all this up through anti-biotics, hormones (to make the poor critters grow and produce fast before they keel over and die) and cheap diet. The big agricultural businesses (agribusiness) also provide very poor produce which is frequently tainted with disease causing organisms--gross!

Eggs? I eat raw eggs every day; start my day with a fresh eggnog. I get them from a friend who lives nearby.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Great article! emoticon

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Read a great article this morning. Very informative. Some of you may have already read it but I wanted to post it for any newbies like me :)
http://www.gnolls.org/1141/eat-like-a-pr
edator-not-like-prey-paleo-in-six-easy
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Thanks Fit_Artist! I'll have to look into that in my area! One of my friends actually raises chickens, so I should have an "easy in" emoticon

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I've never worried about salmonella. I get local, free run, farm fresh eggs.

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This has been a great thread to read- thanks ladies!

I am super interested in making my own mayo, but hesitated when I saw the raw eggs. Isn't salmonella a health concern when using raw eggs in a recipe?

Thanks!

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I have a recipe somewhere.... it uses yogurt as a base, then add some dill and other stuff. I haven't tried it yet.

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Ranch dressing is really whatever you like in your ranch dressing...LOL!

Mayo and vinegar (preferably white wine or tarragon) are the base and then from there you can add more thick white stuff like sour cream, yogurt, cream, cream cheese, etc) Then you need stuff to give it tasty spunk like:
Chopped, fresh parsley (very important ingredient, for sure)
Chopped, fresh chives or finely chopped onions, or a little of both
Pressed fresh garlic
(Sometimes powdered onion and garlic can work better for this dressing)
Salt & pepper (goes without saying)
A half a tsp. of anchovy paste will bring a savory deepness--more for a big batch of dressing.
A pinch of cayenne will give it a zip that will leave people guessing what's the secret to this tasty dressing??!

Other things to consider:
Dill
Lemon juice
Sweetener (honey is best for dressings), don't use much.
Buttermilk

Throw it into the processor and yum!
If you don't have a processor and will be mixing by hand then make sure, if you use cream cheese, that you soften it first and add the mayo to it a bit at a time and then the vinegar just a little bit at a time too. If you don't you will be fighting the lump monster

There's never any need to buy store bought mayo (you all know that!!) and you don't really need a recipe. You just have to have an idea of what you want and some very basic ingredients.

GO!

PS: this dressing is much better the second day. It needs to sit at least an hour before serving for all the ingredients to meld into a mouth-watering condiment.

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 10/3/2011 (17:09)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/3/11 2:51 P

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I found a pretty good clean ranch recipe on The Gracious Pantry's website. She's got some awesome recipes on her site! I tried the Ranch with my kiddos the other night, and it got a thumbs up from them! I'm not a big Ranch-er myself...... give me some toasted sesame oil and rice wine vinegar anyday- YUM!

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10/3/11 1:19 P

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Thanks for the mayo recipes girls! And all the other input too :) I need a good recipe for ranch dressing. Do y'all have one?
I cleaned out my pantry over the weekend. Gone are all traces of rices, noodles, pasta. Kept a loaf of bread for the hubs. My primal journey begins officially today. I havent had any grains since yesterday morning at breakfast, had a biscuit :) So far so good!

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good choice

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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OK. Don't give me the recipe. lol

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Definitely what?? EVIL?? or do you want the evil recipe?? Really, if you want to save yourself from being sick and full of regrets, get those little buggers out of the house as soon as possible! I have experience in this area
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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Definitely!

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I agree with Laura about the milk. When the fat is removed from the milk the milk sugar gets concentrated in what is left.
Sugars:
Palm sugar
Coconut sugar
Cane sugar
etc.
These sugars are available as minimally refined products. The beet and cane sugars that are common in the baking section of our grocery stores are mostly all highly refined and come from agricultural concerns that use and abuse the farm workers--like C&H and all the other store brands.

If you do want to have some sugar on hand I highly recommend getting the ones that say "Fair Trade" and "organic" and "minimally refined".

But really, I'm like Laura in that i just don't use sugar hardly at all anymore. i keep it on hand for guests to put in their coffee and for that rare batch of cookies that I'm taking out of my house to some other poor suckers place...LOL! Christmas time might find me dipping my fingers into some chocolate, gooey, fudgey thing to take to a party...want my recipe for chocolate covered peanut butter balls?? SO EVIL!!!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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I use unrefined coconut oil when I make my mayo and I don't notice the flavor--maybe I've just gotten used to it or something.

I'm not kidding at all or even bragging when I keep saying that I have an easier method of making mayo. No slow pouring needed. And less ingredients. It comes together perfectly every time. I'd love to share my method with you. I think I got the idea right here on SP and just changed to healthier oils. I use 1/3 cup evoo, 1/3 cup warmed coconut oil and split the third third into half hemp oil and half flax oil. Only need an egg yolk (just 1), a tablespoon lemon juice, 1 tsp water and 1/4 tsp salt. I throw in 1/4 tsp sugar but that is optional. You can add other things like mustard and pepper if you like but I don't think it really needs it; you can always add some of the extras to the sandwich or salad (or whatever) when you get to that.

You need an immersion blender to do it.
I'll never go back to the slow-pour blender/processor method - I make a pint of mayo nearly every week and this method is so fast.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Here's my mayo recipe. This mayo recipe is the only time I use refined coconut oil (otherwise my mayonnaise would taste like coconut)
recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detai
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Natural sugar.... I don't use too much of. An occasional spoonful of honey in a "grain-free" bread recipe maybe... I use stevia most of the time.
Sugar in dairy. I pretty much only have 1-2 servings of dairy per day. So, I don't worry too much about sugar in dairy, especially since I use full fat dairy. It's the low fat and non fat dairy that contains more sugar.

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I would like that mayo recipe as well :)
So is natural sugar ok or no? Like the amount of sugar in whole milk and raw honey for instance. I am trying to find my answers on MDA but I haven't found that one yet.

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So glad I stop by this thread! Very informative especially to those of us who are fairly new at this. I would love to have the mayo recipe if you wouldn't mind sharing it.

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Another idea that a lot of people use;
Cook large batches when you do cook and freeze what you don't use right away. Freeze stuff in serving sized freezer bags and containers so you only have to thaw what you want. Around here we don't mind eating the same stew or soup or quiche for 2 or 3 days in a row. It's so nice to just reach in the fridge and grab what's there. That south-of-the-border chicken makes a great sauce over eggs in the morning. Just shred a bit of the chicken and put it along with some of its sauce right on the eggs. Yum!! You can do this trick with almost everything.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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You girls are the best! Thank you both so much for all the ideas! It should get me started on my new journey :)
I did buy some organic 1/2 and 1/2 today for my coffee and unsweetened coconut milk, coconut oil, along with lots of meats and veggies. Wierd that there was absolutely no bread, wraps, tortillas and such in my basket! One thing I couldn't bring myself to buy (yet) was whole milk, and only bc of all the sugar in it! Is it ok since it's milk to have all that sugar? I wasn't sure, so I thought I'd check with you girls 1st.
Thanks again for y'alls help! I will definately check out what y'all have recommended (and I will make that Chicken Annie!).

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Need a recipe?? Here's one that will present you with chicken swimming in its own scrumptious sauce.


Easy Chicken Recipe
(the beans are more Primal than Paleo. Some people eliminate beans completely. I eat them once in a while; like in this dish which everyone goes crazy over)

Put these things into a slow cooker:
4 boneless chicken breasts (or the equivalent weight of boneless thighs)
1 large can (28 oz) whole tomatoes (cut the tomatoes into 4ths first)
1 jar (about 16 oz) medium salsa
1 large onion, chopped
1-4oz can chopped mild green chilies
Cumin and oregano, to taste (or a Mexican seasoning blend)
Sea salt

Cook the whole thing until the chicken is tender and your whole house smells like heaven!

Add 2 cans black beans (15oz each) and stir them in just so they can heat up. Don’t cook the dish much longer because it will turn the beans to mush—they are already cooked right from the can.

Some people like to serve this with rice. I have switched over to mashed cauliflower. (Cook the cauliflower until it’s very soft and then process the heck out of it with some butter-sautéed chopped onions and garlic, salt and pepper and lots of finely chopped fresh herbs. Rosemary and thyme work great. You can also use chives and parsley. If you process this long enough you can hardly tell it from mashed potatoes. Heavens it’s yummy!


Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 9/30/2011 (16:20)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Here's a post I made on another team. It has some valuable information so I'm just going to paste it here.

I've listed here a few websites that are helpful. If you get started with these sites you will find plenty of links in them to other wonderful sites and blogs by people who have discovered the road to traditional foods. I especially like Food Renegade's "Fight Back Friday" because of all the posts from different people. You can always find some great ideas in that list. Just click on the words "Fight Back Friday" at the top and then scroll down to all the links. The Nourished Life is a great resource for learning healthy living from people who have branched out and now have experience to share

www.livingthenourishedlife.com/
www.elanaspantry.com/
www.cheeseslave.com/
www.foodrenegade.com/

Good luck!

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That's right. Much more than calories in and calories out. There's a really good documentary called "Fat Head" It's available through netflix....

I always buy full fat dairy. I rarely get store-bought deli meat or bacon. The resin is not the fat but the sodium and the nitrates in it.
And yes! All the fat freaked me out at first also. But if you lose all the excess grain it rally does work.

And, yes. I make all my own sauces... mayonnaise, etc.


I snack on all kinds of foods. Just not grain. I eat hard boiled eggs, wraps (I use lettuce or coconut wraps), veggies and dip, homemade beef jerky, homemade cookies, yogurt, fruit, cheeses, broiled tomatoes with cheese, nuts, homemade grain-free granola,... umm...

I haven't eaten a white potato in years. I prefer sweet potatoes. However, my family still likes mashed white potatoes. I mash in 1/2 and 1/2 with cauliflower. Add butter and they don't even know the difference. lol

It's hard at first to believe eating more fat will make you more fit, but after you understand how the body treats these things and actually see the results it will be difficult to believe.

Useful topics to read up on are coconut oil, glycemic index and glycemic load, primal lifestyle...

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Lots of questions and an there's an answer for each one.
I like sauces too and have learned how to use arrowroot or kudzu root starches to thicken things with. What might be hardest for you is that store-bought things like A-! sauce are full of bad ingredients. Laura and I (and others on this team and other teams) have learned how to make all our own sauces including mayo. homemade mayo is the absolute best and then you can know exactly what goes into it. It's very easy to make.

I've got to go right now but I'll come back and try to address your questions. Maybe Laura will jump in with some good ideas.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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thank you so much Annie and Laura for your detailed posts :)
If I do this, I will definately have to reprogram my whole thought process, which will take time! I am on a 90 day fitness program and am freaked out at the thought of eating so many more calories & fat! I dont even count calories, and no matter how I have ate in the past, I've always been of the belief that ultimately it comes down to calories in = calories out to lose weight. You have to be in a deficit, right? Or is that not the case with primal eating? I guess all calories are not created equal and some are processed easily vs being stored as fat.... If y'all could give me your thoughts on this, I would appreciate it.

I am going to the grocery store today and need your input/advice on a few things-
So I guess I am to get full fat dairy-milk, real butter, cheeses etc. What about meats? For instance, do you still try to keep the meat lean like turkey bacon vs reg bacon, ground turkey vs. hamburger etc? And I get full fat mayo too? omg!!
What about sauces? I am a sauce eater, dont like just baked dry chicken, steak with no A1 etc. What do you do about that? I'm sure you flavor with lots of spices/herbs & such, but no sauces at all? Just dry meat??
Lunchmeat? I guess not...
What about wild rice? I read somewhere you can eat that. Thoughts?
On the weekends, we work alot outside on our couple of acres, building horse stalls right now. For instance, when we come in for lunch and need something quick, what do you eat? Can't make a sandwich or grab some chips & salsa or a hot pocket! and I'm not cooking anything at that time, so what would we eat?

One other issue I'd like your thoughts on-there is no way I can get my hubby to give up his potatoes! I guess my worry is for instance if I buy full fat dairy (he drinks skim milk nightly) and use butter etc. and he still eats his taters and fiber one bars for breakfast, will he likely gain weight eating so many more calories & fat? He needs to lose about 45 lbs, so I definately don't want him gaining...
I know this coffee thread isn't really the place for all these questions, but I really appreciate so much y'alls help, input and guidance!

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Annie chiming in:
I don't eat potatoes or any grains. There are some flours that are not made with grains my favorite being coconut flour and nut flours. Grains and grain flours turn to sugar in your mouth and from there trigger many chemical changes that end up as stored fat. Insulin resistance being just one of the negative chemical responses to all sugars no matter how they look on your plate or in your hand.

The fats that we eat are not the "fat" that sticks to our thighs. The "fat" that we are storing in our bodies comes from sugars. The fat that we eat will either be stored or be used for energy. As we get sugar out of our diets we won't be storing so much fat; we will be using it for energy and it can even help us lose weight.

I would never use something called "butter spray"...sounds like a marketing ploy and probably a food that has been messed with in some industrial way. I absolutely don't trust that kind of thing. Real butter is good for us as is coconut oil. Don't fall for the diet mentality; or, if you have already been hooked into it, consider breaking away for your health's sake. "Diet" foods haven't helped anyone either lose weight or get healthy.

Potatoes are a very high starch food. They are nutritious but there are many other foods that are nutritious as well that aren't high starch. We need carbohydrates for sure but by cutting way down on the starchy carbs you will see pounds melt away and you will feel better too. Good carbs are in all other veggies.

No, I don't count calories; I count healthy foods and watch my portion...most of the time! I just love to eat and I know I eat more than is good for weight loss. Yet I am very healthy; rarely ever get sick and when I do my body fights it off quickly. No drugs! Just good food.

Good luck on your health journey.
Remember: Losing weight will never guarantee a healthy body (there are plenty of skinny sick people) but a truly healthy body will find its perfect weight.


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I'm not against counting calories.. I did that for years... Excellent way to keep everything in check. I did it for so long that I pretty much know how many calories are in my food.
I don't eat white potatoes, wheat or starchy flour, white processed sugar. But I do eat butter, although my fat of choice is coconut oil.
High fat food (healthy fat) is so much healthier than starchy carbs.
Two slices of "whole grain" bread have a higher glycemic impact than a Snickers bar. (most likely because of the higher fat content of the candy bar"
Essentially all grain is turned into sugar(glycogen) by our bodies. This is not the preferred fuel for our bodies, contrary to popular belief.
Grain, low fat foods and starchy carbs makes us fat. It is also the true cause of atherosclerosis and high cholesterol...
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wow this thread has given me alot to think about :) As i sit here eating a whole wheat tortilla lol :)
I did visit Marks Daily Apple and did a little reading on primal. It's interesting and makes sense. Still so much more to read...More questions for fit_artist or anyone else that wants to chime in-

-Do you count calories at all eating primal? I never eat butter (I use butter spray bc it has no calories) and ate a little lite butter last night and mentally feel like I gained 5 lbs!
-What is your stance on potatoes, flour, butter, sugar?



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It might be confusing to some to refer to tofu as "processed". So many of the great foods we like are also processed in similar ways like cheese, nut milks, coconut milk, coconut flours, powders, Greek yogurt and things like that. Tofu, at least a good, pure tofu, is just ground up soybeans and water that has been strained, heated and then firmed up with a coagulant like magnesium chloride or Epsom salts and then pressed. Tofu is something anyone can make in their kitchen. So it's not really "processed" in the icky way that so many industrial foods are.

BUT, Laura I am with you about soy products. Any soy product that isn't fermented (like tofu and edamame) isn't worth eating in my opinion because of the estrogenic effect on hormones. Plus, if you do want to eat un-fermented soy it's a good idea to make sure it's organic otherwise it will be GMO which we truly want to avoid!

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Fermented soy is a better alternative to processed soy (i.e. tofu).

Here's a great article.

www.naturalnews.com/025513_soy_food_
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I'm glad I took the time to read this thread. This is a great conversation. I've never been a big fan of the Egg White revolution. There are so many nutrients in the yolk, I just can't bare to throw it out. I've been on skim milk for over 20 years now and can't stand the thickness of Whole milk. Thinking of switching to Almond milk. I have a niece that went vegetarian a couple years ago and now has hypothyroidism. The only soy I will eat is Edamame, and only rarely on a salad, no tofu, fake meat or any form of processed soy.

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Yeah. I quit drinking coffee for YEARS! Now I enjoy a cup maybe every second day or so.

In regards to Tosca... she aslo promotes other foods that I would never eat. Soy and tofu for one. Soy is a phytoestrogen. It is also in EVERYTHING! Maybe this could be a cause for 1 out of ten people in North America having hypothyroidism???? Maybe?
I also don't eat tilapia. If it doesn't say WILD tilapia on the package it is most likely a farmed fish (fed grain and corn in their feed). It throws the omega balance of the fish out of whack.

If I look through Tosca's books I'm sure I can come up with some more stuff I disagree with. lol



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I also agree with Laura about the type of coffee you buy. Clean for me also means that the coffee comes from plantations that don't exploit child labor or process their beans using toxic chemicals. It means that the farmers and laborers get a fair price and good working conditions. This is what Laura means by "Fair Trade" coffee. Clean also means (to me) organic only.

Because of the continual rise in the cost of coffee, especially really good coffee, I just don't drink very much anymore--also because it's not healthy for me to drink too much.

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Laura is so right about ditching skim milk. Skim milk is used to fatten pigs in the pig industry. It makes the pigs fat because when you remove the fat from the milk what you have left is basically water and sugar and lactose. Too much lactose can make you dairy sensitive and too much sugar will make you fat.

If you can get raw milk you are going to benefit your body tremendously.

I have discovered the creamy goodness of putting coconut oil and coconut milk in my tea and coffee. In each cup I put 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. coconut oil and a heaping tablespoon of coconut milk (I use Native Forrest brand which comes in Bpa-free cans.) The combination of the oil and the milk is absolutely luscious--creamy & delish. I also use dairy cream.

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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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So, in a nutshell, other than the milk and egg whites you mentioned below (and I read your blog on grains so I know your stance on that!), what other differences are there b/w Tosca's philosophy and going primal/paleo? What kind of benefits have you seen with this lifestyle vs Tosca's? Sorry for so many questions but I just wanna pick your brain :)

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I like Tosca, but I disagree with a lot of her ideas. I have all of her books and I no longer see the benefits of skim milk, egg whites, etc.
I would highly recommend Wheat Belly or Primal Blueprint books...

www.marksdailyapple.com/the-book/the
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One more question for you fit_artist-I'm interested in purchasing one of Tosca's book to really start educating myself on the clean eating way of life. Which book would you recommend I start with?

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Yeah... it took me a while to lose that "programming" also. I ate everything low fat and counted every single calorie, fat gram, etc. lol


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Eating clean is definately gonna take some getting used to after years of being programmed to eat low fat or even no fat and count every calorie! Thanks for all your input and suggestions. I value your input as you seem to be on the right track :)

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Well, I believe that clean eating (eating whole foods as nature intended) includes not separating fat from milk, egg yolks from egg whites, etc.
I also for YEARS, drank skim milk and egg whites. I no longer believe that our bodies were meant to dissect food in this way, so I no longer do this...
I love whole milk and nut milks. I actually use a lot of almond milk. But for coffee I prefer something thicker like whole milk (or even heavy cream if I happen to have some). Coconut milk is also great in coffee.

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Thanks for the reply fit_artist :) Is whole milk better to use than skim or almond? I've drank skim for many years and did try it in my coffee but it's like adding water to it...I haven't had whole milk in the house in I don't know how many years....

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That's what PP does unfortunately. You could put the coffee and PP in a shaker bottle.
My clean coffee is whole coffee beans. It's also FAIR TRADE and ORGANIC. Which is part of eating clean (in my opinion). I put a dollop of whole milk in mine.

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Hi all :) What are you putting in your coffee? I did use ff creamer and sweet n low. I am currently trying almond milk and stevia but blech....I read what I thought would be a great idea on eatcleandiet.com about putting protein powder (choc) in the coffee and it would taste like hot chocolate. I just tried it and the pp never disolved and it got all hard and chunky. Maybe it's just the brand I bought...Any ideas?

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