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6/23/10 6:05 P

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ANIDUCKTHISTLE rocks! Thank you so much for spending the time. I'm off to shop!

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6/23/10 4:46 P

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More great information. iHerb will be getting my business. Thanks I am really lovin this team!!!!

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6/21/10 11:11 P

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Hi thanks for your recommendations, I will look and see what I can find.

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I've gotta get in here and give iherb.com a hearty recommendation. They beat the local health food store price on my current multi by a big margin, and whenever I have found reliable info on the proper form or manufacturing method for a given supplement, I've been able to find the right stuff there.

Speaking of multivitamins, I have done research I feel good about on single supplements and picked my best option, but for some reason that is a lot tougher to do with multivitamins. Try Googling "best multivitamin" and see what kind of junk comes up!

For a multi, I basically paid my money and took my chance based on recommendations of other customers at iherb. I'm on my fourth month of the Every Woman II Organics from New Chapter. The label says all the right things - vitamins from whole foods with fermented soy, probiotics, etc. It does not say anything about pharmaceutical grade or what form most of the nutrients take, but there is a logo at their website that says they are GMP registered. If anybody else has had better luck with the multivitamin research and could tell me if my $40/month would be better spent elsewhere, I'd love to be further educated.

Heck, if you could just point me to reliable sources of information, that would be great too. So much of what I find on my own searches could easily be articles and reviews paid for or planted by the product manufacturers. It is hard to know what info is trustworthy, especially with so many "authorities" also selling products.

When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when it's convenient. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses; only results.


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6/21/10 11:26 A

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Yes, you are right about that. Go to the IHerb site and search for HOG-15150 and then you will want to take it along with DRB-00207 (tocotrienols). Tocotrienols have been found to be a major piece of the vitamin E complex that has been left out of most vitamin E supplements. It's hard to find a vitamin E supplement that doesn't cost an arm and a leg which includes tocotrienols. So I take a good vitamin E plus the tocos.

I also take a good vitamin C complex (LIF-72076)

I take 1 each of the E and toco and 3/day of the vit. C.

Hope this helps



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6/21/10 11:23 A

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Thanks. I had never heard of or thought of the sublingual type. I have a lot to learn. The other things I take are Calcium, fish oil, Cardio Chelate with EDTA (which my husband found and urged me to take) and a multi without iron.

The only prescription I take is Sulindac for arthritis. Thanks, any advice is appreciated and would you share the health newsletters sites?

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6/21/10 11:17 A

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I also take the E and the C. I was told that C as well as E was also important for skin health.

I had 8 months of skin difficulties (allergic reactions & hives) before doctors found the very low Vit. D level. I was put on 50,000IU for two months and then 3,000IU daily for two months. I know that the 3,000IU were Vit. D2. It took 2 to 3 more months before my skin completely cleared up and another 3 to 4 months to discover the thyroid issue.

Earnie - Monteagle, TN
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If something is holding us back, today is the day to begin to push back. Today is always the best day to end the fears and begin being the best you.

At the end of every road there is something worth seeing.


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6/21/10 11:17 A

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Here's the one I recommend for Vit D
www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Answer-Vitami
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D-3-Drops-15-ml/20745?at=0


Sublingual drops or sprays are the very best way to get vitamin D. Other forms (caps, tabs) work too if they are from a reputable source but all experts say that it's best to take sublingually. This causes it to bypass organs and to go straight to the blood. This is the case with other vitamins as well. I also take B-12 sublingually.

You can often tell a good brand by the way it's label reads and by the copy that goes with the product explaining the processes by which the product is manufactured. A good company will be proud of how they handle things and will know a lot of the latest research. It's always a good thing to do your own searching. I subscribe to a lot of natural health oriented newsletters and so I try by reading those what the latest scoop is on things. It takes time and effort for sure and research is always coming up with new stuff to ponder--like this sublingual thing.

Do you have something particular in mind that you want to start taking?

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 6/21/2010 (11:18)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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6/21/10 10:51 A

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That seems to be a good site for supplements. Are there brands that provide a more reputable/reliable source of vitamins than others. I take 2000IU of Vitamin D for skin issues, and know that D3 is preferable over D2, but other than that, I am at a loss.

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6/21/10 9:15 A

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I woke up in the middle of the night remembering that I didn't tell you that with the taking of the mineral supplements your leg cramps will disappear very quickly, possibly even immediately. Or, like I said, if you are very depleted of minerals, you might have to add the potassium.

My dh has Atrial Fibrillation and he takes potassium gluconate in powder form. It has been a miracle for him along with magnesium and taurine. It's basically a similar problem with muscles and nerves going all haywire. Only his is with his heart muscles and nerves. Extremely uncomfortable when it goes off. His supplement regime has given him his life back!

But try the things I've suggested and remember, if you order $40 or more it's free shipping--a great deal for the best quality.

I wish good health to you and a beautiful day.

Pinch that crabby wife of yours for me LOL!! NO NO NO, I'm just kidding, just kidding, just kidding; bad idea!!
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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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6/21/10 1:06 A

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thanks annie that is what I need, I don't want to spend my money on junk, so I asked here because I need the advice of someone with experience.


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Here's what I think might be a good choice for you:
www.iherb.com/Bluebonnet-Nutrition-T
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geted-Multiples-Age-Less-Choice-For-R>Men-50-90-Capsules/18463?at=1


Give it a try for about 2 or 3 months and see if it helps you feel better. But this alone isn't going to get rid of "severe" leg cramps. For that you need more minerals. I strongly suggest that you also take the multi-mineral supplement that I posted before. If that isn't enough then get the potassium caps as well. Add one thing at a time so you can really tell what is working.

And, here's the caveat. I'm not a doctor. I'm just telling you from my own experience and from all the stuff I read. You really have got to experiment and read and study to get it down to where you feel confident of what you are doing...lol...do I ever feel totally confident??...NO. I just keep trying stuff and reading some more! I have had some really good results from all my "experiments". I have also worked with naturopaths who have helped me tremendously. If you can get a good naturopath to work with you, you are blessed!!

Also, if you are on any prescription medications you should check with your doctor before starting any supplement routine.

You can also search the net to find out if any meds you are on don't mix with certain supplements. Take action for yourself!! Most supplements don't pose any problems but I think there might be some. Certainly there are herbs that should be studied to see if they have a negative outcome when combined with prescription meds.

Best of health
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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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It sure can be confusing when you are starting out looking at these things. IHerb is a very, very big "store"!! I have spent a lot of time "shopping" and reading articles on all the different types of herbs and supplements over many years so I'm just a little ahead of you is all. But I totally agree...confusing!

There are at least a zillion and a half multi-vitamin formulas out there. You can spend anywhere from $20 a month up to $250 a month on a multi-vitamin.

I'll go search for one for you. I don't take a multi-vitamin because I take a lot of singular supplements. I'm not against multi-vits at all, I just have my own particular ailments and trying to find a multi-vitamin that's got everything and doesn't have something that I need to avoid is really hard.

But I'll go searching and see if I can come up with a good, basic, multi for you.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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6/20/10 11:57 P

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thanks Ani I have looked at the iherb page but it is so confusing, they have so many different products it is difficult to know what is good and what isn't. is there a good multi vitamin

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Yes, potassium will help with leg spasms. You might want to think about taking more than just potassium as with many nutritional elements they work best in concert with each other. I have ugly nighttime leg cramps too IF I neglect to take my multi-mineral tablets. I also take a potassium capsule with each meal. When I do this I have absolutely no leg cramps--none!

Here's what I take:
www.iherb.com/Iron-Free-Chelated-Mul
ti
-Minerals-120-Caplets/13835?at=0

and
www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Potassium-Ci
tr
ate-99-mg-180-Capsules/13061?at=0


Have a good look at the "supplement facts" label on the multi-mineral. You will notice that most of the minerals listed have words in parentheses after them. These are descriptions of the type of mineral used and this particular product has all the right kinds. this is VERY important if you expect your supplement to have a positive affect.

Notice, for instance the vitamin D (it's there to help assimilate the minerals) It is called "cholecalciferol". that is the only really good kind of vitamin D available. Vegans don't like to use it because it is derived from fish but I'm telling you it is the very best kind. It is also called "D3". Vegans can get vitamin D from yeast extracts but I don't think that is the best way, certainly not the most natural way to get vitamin D. This is just my opinion and some vegans might argue.

I could go down the whole list on the multi-vitamin and explain why each one is considered the best but you will get bored and anyway it would just be too much information all at once. Take note though that a really good supplement will be proud to tell you the exact sources of the vitamins/minerals that are in their product.

IHerb.com is an excellent place to buy supplements. They have great customer service and great products.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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6/20/10 8:36 P

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I don't know what it bring up, there are so many vitamins in a multiple and according to my tracker I am not getting alot, I know I am not because my diet is fsr from ideal. I do net potassium because I have sever leg cramps and was told that will hep, also with high blood pressure

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Mike, I should have answered your question.
Is isn't the stearic acid and calcium sterate that are bad in the Centrum supplement; it's the vitamins themselves that are at best useless and at worst actually bad for you. Vitamins and minerals must be handled and manufactured up to certain standards for them to be worth anything. A lot of cheap supplements are synthetic versions and/or are just the wrong kinds. Many of them are cheaply and poorly handled and lose their potency in the manufacturing process.

I know this can see frustrating and complex. And it is at first when you are just learning. My suggestion is to learn about one thing at a time. Pick a vitamin and bring it up here on a thread and we will knock it around...you know us!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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I consider that I eat very well (clean) and I take additional Vitamin C, D, E, Calcium, fish oil and a multi.

Earnie - Monteagle, TN
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www.flickr.com/photos/8894287@N06/

If something is holding us back, today is the day to begin to push back. Today is always the best day to end the fears and begin being the best you.

At the end of every road there is something worth seeing.


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Centrum is basically a waste of your money. Shopping in a Walgreens or a supermarket for good supplements is a needle in the haystack situation...meaning you'll probably not find it! some supermarkets have a natural products section that might offer a few decent supplements but that's about it. the best way to buy the best supplements; ones that actually work is on-line at sites like IHerb and VitaCost. (there are other good sites too) IHerb is free shipping if you order $40 or more. VitaCost is 4.99 no matter how much you buy so that can be good if you buy a lot at once.

Health Food stores will generally carry good stuff but you will pay a lot for it.

But Centrum? No way, I wouldn't use it.

Ask me about a particular vitamin and maybe I can steer you towards some information on it. Are you wanting a multi-vitamin? Is this just for general health or do you have a particular concern?

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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I know you guys don't use them but I got a supplement question, are centrum decent, do they work. And I was look a liquid vitamin that did not have to many additives, how ever it had stearic acid and calcium sterate in it is this bad.

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