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3/2/10 9:14 P

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and all the different TYPES of sugars... glucose, fructose, dextrose, etc.

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3/2/10 8:19 P

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I had also asked about tracking sugar and was told that they won't add it because you can't tell the difference between natural and added sugars.

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3/2/10 8:18 P

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The article does seem more geared towards people that are looking for a miracle sweetner, you know the magic one that lets you eat all you want with no calories and no funky after taste. But it isn't, it is a sweetener. I'm not really familiar with all the hype surrounding agave (I don't get advertised at much) and the debunking was pretty lame, more just an attack.

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3/2/10 3:14 P

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I've used broen rice syrup. It is not as sweet as honey or agave... it has a really nice caramel flavor. It makes great granola bars!

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3/2/10 3:07 P

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Has anyone used Brown Rice Syrup before? Christina Pirello of www.christinacooks.com uses this in her vegan recipes.

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3/2/10 2:05 P

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What's funny, is that the cashiers always look confused when they see my selection! Some of them even ask questions while they're bagging my things! I love it! LOL

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3/2/10 2:01 P

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Yes Silver it must be for those people who haven't yet become or know about clean eating. Their are a lot of them out there. All you got to do is go to the grocery store and look in their baskets. Wow!



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3/2/10 1:10 P

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Yeah, Laura...I've always been puzzled by those Food Showdowns too. Neither choice ever seems very healthy to me. I guess it's one of those "if you must indulge" type things.

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3/2/10 12:55 P

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I was watching the Food Network station show Good Eats, and he was talking about how often he eats certain things in his diet and sugar is very very seldom. Again, look at the food pyramid - sugar is an occasional treat!

Now I do believe you should have dark chocolate EVERY DAY... emoticon

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3/2/10 11:57 A

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I read the article, and I was "reported" on another thread (on a different team) for being "rude" to another member in regards to agave. No worries, Coach Jen found me and the other member to be EQUALLY RUDE! LOL!
I hadn't even read the article. Didn't need to. I know what it is gonna say...
I have however just read it now!
The wording of the article... 'claims of being "diabetic friendly" '. Only a fool would say that it is diabetic friendly. It is however, lower on the GI scale. So, I guess it is diabetic "friendlier"

The truth is that ANY sweetener should be used in moderation (I argued with another sparkmember about this) and that ANY sweetener (yes. even those that have a few trace nutrients like honey or molasses) are really a LOT of empty calories. We are best to stay away from all of them.
But, if you are like me, then sometimes it is nice to have a sweet treat. And an occasional SWEET is OK (in my opinion)
I had posted a while back about being able to track sugar. I was told that we only need to track carbs... at least diabetics do. So, I was POO-POOed, and my sugar tracking idea seemed UNIMPORTANT. emoticon

OH! Did you guys get the Spark email today? The Food Showdown? Which is better/worse? Hot dog on a stick or hot dog on a bun? Come On! I don't think there is ANYTHING healthy about a hot dog. Nitrates, fat, sodium.... what kind of meat is it?
But they are so busy throwing stones at agave?

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3/2/10 11:23 A

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Never mind...That was easier than I expected. LOL
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3/2/10 11:22 A

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Carolyn, there was a post on one of the Spark Community forums a while back that I was part of. There is a general desire to be able to track sugar, but despite multiple requests it has not yet been implemented. I wish I could remember exactly where that post was. One of the techs was on there explaining why they wouldn't add it...But it was so long ago I don't want to misquote anyone. I'll have to see if I can find it again.

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3/2/10 11:12 A

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I would like to use honey but it hits my blood sugar numbers so I do use Agave Nectar. But your right, It isn't nectar straight from the plant like raw honey. Everything in moderation.

I do wish the articles were more factual and unbiased. It does seem like they are geared to a specific sponsor. Or at least start out with, "In my opinion,".

Have a great day everyone! Love all the info I get from you guys.

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3/2/10 10:43 A

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I mostly use honey as a sweetener. I have purchased the agave nectar, but have not used it yet. I bought it for a recipe that a friend gave me for pan seared tilapia. Since I gave up sugar in November, I really haven't needed an alternative. When I do need a sweetener I use honey. I read that Spark article, and I thought it was interesting that it did not talk about moderation, it did not talk about the fact that a diet without sugar or a sugar 'alternative' was healthier for you. We do not 'need' a sugar or sugar replacement in our daily diet. Fruit is naturally sweet, as is honey.

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3/2/10 10:37 A

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I'm with Labyrinth (and others) who were a wee bit annoyed by that article.

It's a sweetener. Not a main course item. I switched to agave a year ago for my coffee in the morning. I'll keep using it. DS9KIE, that's the only use I have for it...though I did put it in banana bread once and it was good.

And while I'm in ticked off mode...why is there NO sugar gram listing on nutrition info of recipes? Articles on HFCS/Agave/Sugar, etc. but ignored when you cook something. That is something I really like to track.

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3/2/10 10:35 A

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I sub it for honey. About the same calories but has lower glycemic index. Is a little thinner in texture then the farm honey I buy. I think it is not as sweet as honey but that may be because I use a bit less of it then I would honey.

I also use it in place of commerical "maple" syrups for waffles and pancakes. This morning I used it as a drizzle on top of the Citrus Scones (Clean Eating Magazine) that I had made last night for todays' breakfast.

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well so is Agave Nectar ok to use? What do you use it in?

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3/2/10 10:08 A

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I'm with the other two ladies. I use it and will continue to do so, but in moderation (as I do all my sweetners).

In many ways I don't see it being much different (processed wise) from maple syrup. It is a plant product so it is going to be higher in fructose.

My feeling about the article was that someone from the Corn Industry paid for it. Not that agave nectar is a miracle sweetner, but I still don't think you can compare it with HFCS and that is what they kept trying to do. I think as people are avoiding HFCS they are looking to alternatives and agave nectar is one of the first they are jumping to making it a target by the corn industry.

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Perhaps the article is too short and doesn't discuss the positive aspects of agave 'nectar' (and I object to the term nectar here because it implies that this is a naturally occurring substance somehow shed by the plant instead of a derivative of the plant sap, by the way). Perhaps the article could be more balanced in that way. The author seems to assume that we are all familiar with the claims/hype surrounding the product - a specious assumption to be sure.

I for one am glad to have some more information about agave - I've never read anything except glowing 'this stuff cures everything' type 'reviews' that are clearly unbalanced in the other direction. Having more information and reading another opinion is good in my book. I like the opportunity to make informed choices. I'm still going to eat it, and with less suspicion now since I think I understand it a little better.

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3/2/10 9:30 A

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Not an expert by any means, but this article (which I saw several days ago) rather ticked me off. It's part of the mindset of the sparkblogs which made me stop reading them.

1.) Let's face it ANY sugar needs to be used in moderation. PERIOD. I notice the article says nothing like that.

2.) It IS lower on the glycemic index which for those with hypoglecimic or diabetes issues IS important - no real discussion of the benefits, only the negative in the article.

3.) Typical Spark kneejerk response that anything that doesn't fit their traditional ideas is poo-poohed on. For example, the extremely negative article on St. John's Wort (it's over in nutrition).

JMO.

STILL waiting for Spark to do ANY cooperative agreement with the American Cancer Society or American Heart Association. Nada on this website.

Edited by: LABYRINTH at: 3/2/2010 (09:32)
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I'd like to hear what our "Clean Eating" experts say on this subject.

www.dailyspark.com/blog.asp?post=is_
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