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Yeah. I can sure SMELL when someone has just had a smoke. emoticon

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We went to a movie today and during the movie, I noticed a gal come back in at least twice; you could tell she had left to go have a smoke because she reeked of it when she came back in the theatre, and I was inundated with the smell even from 8 - 10 feet away! I told my SIL next to me that I am SO glad I do not have that addiction. I can't imagine needing a smoke so bad that you would leave a movie 2 or 3 times just to go have one. Wow...
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Thanks, Ani, that's very kind of you. And I'm so sorry about your brother.

I'm scared about my old-lady days since I can only assume that his health won't be good forever. And I worry about my kids' relationship with him. I so want them to be close NOW since, like anyone, we can't count on him being around when they're adults.

Then again, the same goes for me. I've been sick my whole life, and every year or two it takes a turn that could lead to the end. So far so good, but I know that once I'm in hospital anything can go wrong.

I guess, for me, it all adds up to what has become my 'philosophy' of life: live (eat, exercise, learn, grow, build relationships...) like you'll be around forever but love like there's no tomorrow.

Kirsten
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si matris est non gauisus nemo est gauisus
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Just a little comment for GOEGIRL,
My brother, up to his late 50s was very a inteligent reader, writer, loved to study the sciences.He was 6'2", tan, muscular, pro tennis player and avid surfer living a beautiful bachelor's life in Hawaii where he had been living almost his entire adult life.
In seconds it was all taken away from him by a stroke.
He now lies in a bed in a nursing home down the road from me and will be there the rest of his life. Half his brain gone, and most of his body paralyzed.
What did he do wrong?
He smoked and he ate junk food most of the time.
I am so sorry for your hubby GOEGIRL. I'm scared for him. A healthy look on the outside doesn't always tell the story of what is going on inside.
I love my brother and I am continually sad for him. To see him now--pasty white, bulging tummy (nursing home food is cr.p) TV on all the time...you get the picture. Sad, sad, sad.
I want to spread the word to people; I want them to know the truth.

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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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2/12/10 9:36 P

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Run Andi run...........save you self...........

Seriously, I never could understand what anyone got
out of smoking. I tried it in high school and after
3 my stomach started growling and I wanted to EAT.
DuH, I have enough problems with wanting to eat.

If you always do what you've always done,
You'll always be who you've always been!!!!!!

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Like seriously I'm outta here. LOL!

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All of a sudden I want to smoke. I must remove myself and go to a SMOKE FREE environment. LOL! emoticon

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2/12/10 5:02 P

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yeah I know the feeling, out socializing hearing the ice hit your glass. People all talking at the same time making this hum of comfortable anonymity. Shadows of smoke curling, winding and somehow dancing in your direction. Wow I better stop, LOL it can over take you just that fast.

You know its kind of like eating also. My hardest time to eat right is when I am out socializing. Food seems to take on a whole different personality to me than.



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LOL hub bub = family

I KNOW THAT ALL TOO WELL!!! LMAOOOOO!

I relapsed a few times...I really over did it in Vegas. It's was just too much smoke going on. I sat the BJ table for five hourse, I kid you not, and saw that I smoked a whole pack of cigarettes! Eeeeeek!!!

I could have died. I learned my lesson. 9 years off the black horse.

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I have watched my aunt and my hubby eat themselves into oblivion and progressed their diabetes so far out of control it is ridiculous. Losing limbs, organs, eye sight is enough to make me eat better. And that's all I have to say about that. Before I got into weight loss I wanted to just die. Migraines, water retention, facial and finger, feet numbness and just plain on being heavy made me miserable and made me feel like a loser. I ain't going back! It was so worth it to give up the bad things I used to do and eat. I do think that A LOT of people are the cause of their own demise and don't want to take responsibility for it and blame it on outside stimuli like acid rain, toxic waste, air pollution, etc. etc. We can help ourselves if we try than not try to.

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Blackandi,
relapse with smoking Ohhh you know the questions to ask. Yes once in 1998 there was a lot of hub bub going on in my life. You know the kind that push your buttons. FAMILY!

Everything was falling on me or at least that is the way it felt. I have always been the one to hold things together and without much thanks.

Sooooo to get away from the stress I started to go out once or twice a week after work with the girls. At first I was doing great. I remember one night just feeling weighted down and I was having a drink and my friend could see I needed to relax and asked if I wanted a cigarette. Well I said just this one time.

After that I started to smoke again but was hiding it from my family. This was just creating more pressure. This went on for a month and I thought what are you doing to yourself. I worked in the health field and saw to many people grasping with emphysema. So I threw them away and have never touched one since.



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Oh man, oh man, oh man.... I feel a RANT comin' on!

So, my dh still smokes - going on 25 years now. Also, he doesn't eat breakfast or fruit, never drinks water, doesn't go to the dentist or the gym, enjoys Scotch on a regular basis and goes to bed around 1am every night.

He's the PICTURE of perfect health and so is his 70something dad - who also keeps the same kind of lifestyle. People like to say that these habits are gonna bite them in the butt (or the heart, pancreas, liver...) someday, but truly, who's to say?

I have Hashimoto's thyroiditis, an autoimmune disease, which I absolutely didn't get by eating nice clean organic veggies, plenty of fresh local chicken and a healthy-fats only diet, plus years and years of active, outdoor living. I also didn't get three malignant breast tumors, Lupus, chronic lung problems or kidney disease from all that.

BUT, eating healthy foods and living an active life DO help me to deal with these illnesses and (more importantly with the very nasty treatments for them).

I love the idea that thinking positive thoughts and eating well will 100% keep me healthy, but if it doesn't, and I get sick, I'm not willing to live with the other side of that coin - which is to blame the victim and say that I caused the disease. Any researcher worth his scientific salt will tell you that lifestyle factors "MAY CONTRIBUTE to RATES of disease" but they're rarely going to use words like "cause." Pinpointing that sort of thing in individuals is next to impossible - mostly because you don't have a control group for every individual.

We humans love to make sense of things, and we hope to heck that we can predict outcomes based on what we know, but truly, the plural of anecdote is not data, and sometimes the eat healthy live healthy contingent CAN go to far towards 'blaming the victim.'

What I read from the excerpt of the article that you posted ***disclaimer - I didn't read the whole article*** is trying to get a very valid point across in a 'swatting a fly with a sledgehammer' kind of way. It makes the message difficult for some (like, nicotine deprived people ;) ) to swallow. Absolutes like always, never and cause, are slippery slopes.


*stepping DOWN from the podium
*bowing
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Ex-smokers anonymous meets clean eating. Sweet.

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10/28/06...That is the last time I held one of those nasty things in my hand. I tried Chantix but it made me sick. So did the lozenges and nicotine gum so after a week of my stomach churning, I quit it all. I will admit I'm still addicted to Trident gum though. Actually, thinking back quitting smoking was a lot like giving up processed foods. I kept a lot of carrots and other healthy and crunchy snacks on hand. I also brushed my teeth obsessively.

Good luck! emoticon Become a quitter with the rest of us!

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really. And in the end, if you are not smoking, who cares if it is cheating.

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omg, when I quit smoking I had TWO staff ask for transfers to another department - seriously! And I'm a very low-key always giggling kind of person. My dh asked for a transfer too, but he was DENIED!!!

I took an anti-depressant, Wellbutrin. LOTS of people would call that 'cheating' too, and we all KNOW that Mr. Tom Cruise would tsk tsk me for it, but really, what do I care what people think?


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On manufactured diseases I believe that bad lifestyle and choices can certainly be trace back to or overall health status.

Choices that were made by our great great grandparents, great grandparents, grandparents, and parents also figure in. Base on their hereditary traits DNA and the style of living and eating they give us.

My Children would complain because my sister never let them put sugar on their cereal. She was real big into Adele Davis back than. She is still very natural in her food choices, and anti processed and sugary stuff.

It was ironic because at the age of about 45 she became a type one diabetic. She did all the right things to be healthy however my Uncle was a diabetic from childhood so the genetics were there. She has to shoot insulin for the rest of her life now.

I can only imagine how much sooner she would have gotten the disease if she was practicing poor eating.



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Wic emoticon !!!! Any relapses in between?

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Its been a long time since i quit smoking some 35 yrs now. Oops I am dating myself. Started at a real young age. I don't remember a lot of withdrawal symptoms. It seemed the time I was under the most pressure to smoke was when I was out with friends and having a drink.

Sure loved one with a drink. Long time ago. I have a wine bar at home and I try to keep some organic wine in it. Being Italian I was raised on my Grandfathers home made wine. He imported grapes from italy and made the best.

Coffee now giving that up gave me horrible withdrawal. Bad headaches. I went with out it for yrs and than one day relapsed. I don't drink it every day anymore. But I am bad I have it on the weekends.



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I went cold turkey and I'm always sarcastic...acid raing?? I guess that went over many heads. I'll try again later.

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LOL Thanks :-)

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Good for you!!! I used the patch. Some may call that cheating, but if it works, there is nothing cheating about it. I also chewed a TON of sugarless gum (really unclean; aspartame, but it HAS to be better than smoking!). I have also kicked the gum habit. :)
Anyhow, the patch worked GREAT! I highly recomend. I've tried everything else.
The first week is HELL, but after that it really does get easier. I guarantee you that in one week you will be thinking, "wow! I may just be able to do this!"
Good Luck to you!
No worries... I am sure I was pretty SNARKY when I first quit too. emoticon

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Not even 24 hours, since the little things are starting to push my buttons and I am feeling pretty sarcastic, I may stay off the boards for a few days.

How did you finally get off the smokes? I noticed HAWGWILD1 is going on 1 year smoke free. I congradulate both of you.

:-)) Sandy
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I shall give a full 100% of me and feel FABULOUS about the woman I am


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I'm over here trying to learn how to put together an organic garden (Organic Gardening for Dummies is a cool book) and I want to know how to stop it from acid raining. Any ideas??

A lot of people think that it's too late to make changes, small changes or any changes at all because they believe the damage is already done. I used to think like that and not anymore. I am so not 100% clean, but I'm trying really hard.

Living...how many days clean? I'm 9 years clean - I was into Newports heavily.

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sorry-- trying not to smoke and the sarcasm just came out.

:-)) Sandy
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I did not say that because she had cancer that SHE herself MANUFACTURED it. I'm not sure you got the point.
We are here because we believe in eating clean and living a healthy lifestyle. I certaINLY DO NOT PLAN TO help my body fall ill because I neglected myself and treated my self badly.

What do you mean will we stop breathing? Do you mean that taking care of ourselves is like living a lackluster life? Please explain.

Of course, I am sorry that your sis has cancer...




* disclaimer. I am not trying to offend anyone with my post.

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Sorry, my sis did not mfg breast cancer. Are we going to all quit breathing?

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:-)) Sandy
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I can be fierce by being determined in setting my goals and reaching them
I shall give a full 100% of me and feel FABULOUS about the woman I am


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Well, that's certainly the recipe my MIL used to manufacture hers. And just this week they found a fibroid tumor. We're waiting to hear if she'll need a hysterectomy. What kills me is that she "has no idea" why all this is happening!!!!

They can't read or write but they sure can multiply. Please spay or neuter your pets.

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I copied and pasted from Natural News article...



"How to manufacture diabetes:

• Drink lots of liquid sugars and high-fructose corn syrup.
• Consume a huge number of empty calories (junk food).
• Avoid all exercise. Live a sedentary lifestyle.
• Live indoors. Avoid sunshine and the natural world.
• Maintain nutritional deficiencies in vitamin D, selenium, zinc and plant-based nutrients.

If you do this for long enough, you will begin manufacturing diabetes. And before long, you'll be officially diagnosed with it by a doctor who will say something like, "You're diabetic." (Which isn't really true. You are not defined by a disease. You're just expressing a certain physiology that's been named a disease.)

If you want to make cancer, there's a different recipe:

How to make cancer:

• Expose yourself to radiation (mammograms, CT scans, X-rays, etc.).
• Eat cancer-causing foods like bacon, processed meats and foods with chemical preservatives.


if you want to read the entire article, here is the link:
www.naturalnews.com/028153_self_heal
in
g_disease.html


It is part of a 15 part series of articles.

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