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I am assuming that the AMOUNT of beta carotene and nutrients would have been impossible to EAT (that many carrots, etc.) When you juice, it is much more compact.
I am assuming... I will send him an email to find out more...
As for coffee, HE viewed it as a toxin. I am not sure I would view it as one.
He sort of did as he was told by this bodybuilder. But, if I know my dad, he also would have followed it up with his own research.

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Thanks for sharing your dad's story again, Laura.

I have questions for you.

Why did your father choose juices instead of whole fruits and vegetables? Was the ease of digestion (lack of fibre) and concentration of calories important?

Tell me about caffeine. If it is naturally occurring in coffee or tea, is it still viewed as a toxin? Is it different than colas that have added caffeine?

Your dad's experience is similar to my hubby's experience with his pancreas, although Hubby was not given a death sentence. A year ago he was diagnosed with late-onset type 1 (insulin dependent) diabetes. He became very sick suddenly and tests confirmed he has the antibodies for type 1 (usually diagnosed in teenagers), although both his parents are unhealthy, overweight and have type 2 diabetes, so there is a strong family history for that, too. Hubby went into denial that he was going to be on insulin for the rest of his life, preferring to think he was a type 2 diabetic, and that denial seems to have cured him. He joined me on the South Beach Diet -- lots of veggies and whole grains and no added sugar -- and with exercise, running, biking, swimming, weights. Within four months he was off of insulin and oral diabetic drugs. He's lost 45 pounds and competed in two super sprint triathlons. We don't know if this is a remission (bought time for the few cells in his pancreas that are still making insulin) or if the cells have healed and his pancreas is normal again. Time will tell. The docs are amazed and have asked him to speak to other patients.

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I think he occasionally eats organic chicken, and I know he will eat wild caught fish. He eats a lot of eggs, and he drink organic soy and almond milk. I am sure mom has him eating BEANS and LEGUMES (we ALWAYS had a LOT of that stuff growing up).
And he always has a TON of veggies and salads (only balsamic and olive oil on top) and fruits. He has organic whole grains, and he always used to LOVE banana sandwiches. Just bananas sliced on bread. He`s Italian and also likes his pasta... whole wheat organic now, though of course.

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Laura, what an awesome, touching story. What a miracle. Your father (and all of you) must have been scared. What does he eat now? He didn't eat any meat all that time? How did he get protein?

I'm having such a hard time cutting out the sugar. I'm so addicted. Unbelievable!

Well, Sean (nutritionist) said to stop all diets and lets to do the colon detox first. I'm still going to try and stay away from all those foods except some of the fruits. I think adding back in some fruit will help me to get off of white sugar. Then when it comes time to get back on the diet, I'll be more ready.

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You are right, ANI! I reworded (and fixed some of my TYPOS!)

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Laura, I love that story. Makes me want to cry.
That story IS science; it's the testing laboratory! You are so right; AMA doctors just don't know everything. they pretty much just go by the numbers, books, charts and often, older beliefs that they were taught (mostly by drug reps!) while they were in med school.

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Yep. PAULINE. He had cancer in his pancreas. Really deadly. Like getting lung cancer. Pretty much a GONER after a prognosis like that...
Anyhow, he found out and was sent to Calgary hospital. They had hoped that it would just be in one spot, I guess, l;ike a tumor (I guess; I'm not too good with the technical stuff). I was housesitting for my parents. I remember my mom phoning and crying saying that the DOCS didn't even TRY to get it out. They just sewed him back up, and told him to get his affairs in order. He would be LUCKY to see TWO YEARS.
So, he came back home, and my sister knew this bodybuilder. She got him to talk to my dad. He told my dad, that unless it was God's will and that it was HIS TIME to die, that if my dad listened and did EVERYTHING he told him to do, that he could BEAT this cancer like it was the common cold. He GUARANTEED him!
He also told my dad, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES was he to undergo the CHEMOTHERAPY. That the body will take care of itself if you feed it the right and proper nutrtion and get rid of all toxins IN YOUR BODY.When your immune system isn't busy fighting off the toxins (ie sugar, sodium, caffeine, pesticides, food dyes, trans fats, etc, etc) then our bodies are QUITE CAPABLE of fighting off cancer cells.
Well, it made my dad feel better to at least TRY.
Over the course of the next 6-9 months my dad lived mostly on a diet of organic fruit and veggie juices. He got a TOP OF THE LINE juicer. He had a LOT of carrot juice mixed with apple. ALL organic, 100%. He actually started to turn orange from all the beta carotene. He he. But, I remember pulling in, and even though he was ORANGE he was smiling, and feeling GREAT! Too funny!
Anyhow, that was about ten years ago now. The DOCS are completely in AWE. The cancer is GONE. Not in remission. Just GONE!

I don't have too much faith in DOCS, and this story in not the only reason why. I think Holistic and Naturopath may be a better way to go for most general health issues... not that medicine doesn't have it's place. But those guys do not know everything, and the scary part is how ALL THEY KNOW is THEIR science. They can't seem to (or most of them anyhow) accept that there may be an herb or a root that could help a problem. (or just proper nutrtion, in this case. REALLY CLEAN food. SQUEAKY CLEAN in fact) They just whip out the prescription pad. Or send you for some tests. Treat symptoms instead of your body as a whole...

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I live in Oregon.
I just looked at the Brown Cow website. It left me with a question or two. Couldn't find an ingredient list anywhere; why would they leave that out?

I'm sure Brown Cow yogurt is a lot better than the cheaper brands. I've eaten it myself in the past but haven't even looked at it for a while because of superior brands on the grocery shelves. I noticed that they give some excuses for not having an organic line that seem just a little lame...not sure about that one. Plus, I'm not convinced that the cows are living in the best situation--maybe better than most and so that is a plus...but if they are feeding GMO corn, (they do admit to feeding their cows corn and it's not organic) I would look for a better choice.I'm not sure about all this as they are very unspecific. Too many generalities about how wonderful they believe their yogurt to be and not enough about why. I've become very cynical and even a bit put off by today's hyped up advertising methods trying to please all the latest, popular ideas rather than being obviously grounded and passionate about good health.

That's just me; I'm just a duck!!

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I buy Brown Cow when it's on sale. It's my husband's favorite as it's very creamy. It is high in calories (160 for the vanilla) but in my opinion it's better to have the 160 than a yogurt that's 80 and full of artificial sweeteners.

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Yeah, neither one of those farms near me. What about Brown Cow, Sean Croxton recommends that one. Darn, I was at Shaw's the other day and forgot it. Where are you from Ani?

Laura, can you tell me more about your Dad, if you don't mind? He beat terminal cancer? What kind? I just see so much cancer where I work and it's happening to younger and younger people all the time. We see people younger than 40 on a regular basis now, it's scaring the crap out of me, everyone I work with for that matter.

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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Yes. That's them. Family owned and operated. They've had to go to court a billion times against poorly educated polititians to defend raw milk.

Also, tomorrow is my MILK day. I have also put in an order for a dozen free range eggs every week.

The milk/yogurt amount has worked out perfectly. I am left today with about 1 litre of milk. Still fresh enough... Perfect amount to make my yogurt tonight.

Edited by: FIT_ARTIST at: 11/30/2009 (12:56)
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Yogurt: YES, really clean!! Enjoy!! and besides, when we eat both raw milk and yogurt made from fresh, raw milk we are getting the best of 2 worlds. The raw milk has the enzymes and bacteria that we need and the yogurt has it's own kind of bacteria that we need. So if we eat both we are getting great benefits.

Probably the dairy you are thinking about is Organic Pastures. They are the biggest in California and are at the head of the raw milk political debate. Here's their website:
www.organicpastures.com/
Check it out; it is full of great information about everything that is going on with the raw milk issue here in the states. I think you'll be interested.

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Maybe it wasn't STRAUSS. It was a farm in California though... biggest commercial producers and sellers of raw milk, I think, anywhere...
I already returned my MILK BOOK to the library, otherwise I would look it up.

I wondered about that. Heating up the milk. But, I think it is necessary to make the yogurt, andat least it is not being heated to cover up POOR QUALITY milk. It was clean and good before... I just wanted yogurt! :)

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I have't heard that Strauss offers raw milk. they are in California so it's possible that they offer it to people who come to their farm. I don't really know. For a long time I used to order raw milk from Organic Pastures but then a couple of years ago the laws changed to make it illegal to ship raw milk across state lines...maddening!!

Laura, I guess you already know that when you make yogurt with your raw milk that it isn't raw any more. You have to heat the milk to kill the natural bacteria and enzymes in the milk or they will interfere with the yogurt bacteria. Still, making your own yogurt with fresh, local milk is far superior than just about anything you can buy in a store!!

Just thought I'd post this info for everybody's edification.

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 11/30/2009 (01:07)
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Doesn't STRAUSS also offer RAW dairy?
PRAIRIEDAWNPAM, you don't need a recipe... I don't even have a yogurt maker.

Heat your milk until it's HOT, (maybe 4 cups) but don't boil it. Then, let it cool to approximately 110 degrees (use a thermometer). Meanwhile, take your some STARTER yogurt (maybe 1/2 cup), put in a small bowl. Add maybe 1/2 - 1 cup of the lukewarm milk back into it. Stir it up and pour back into the cooled milk. (Which by the way, should now be in something like a VERY CLEAN pyrex dish).
Then I set mine on a heating pad overnight. Loosely covered in plastic wrap. It takes about 8-12 hours. DO NOT jiggle or shake.

There you have yogurt. You can go one step further and drain off the whey, like ANI said...

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I have a yogurt maker, but I've never used it. Are there shared recipes?

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Horizon isn't a company worth doing business with anyway. They have used deceptive marketing practices and I don't know if they have remedied that appropriately yet or even if they plan to.

Fage (as was mentioned) is a very tasty greek-style yogurt you might like. Or, you can take a regular, plain yogurt and hang it in a cheesecloth to let the liquid drain out. The liquid (whey)is where most of the sour is and that is how you make a Greek-style yogurt. You must start off with a real yogurt though; no gelatin or other thickeners or additives. Just milk and yogurt cultures.

If you can find "Strauss" yogurt you are in shape. It is the best there is in commercial yogurts.
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I buy Greek yogurt, Fage or there's another one slips my mind now. It's low or non fat plain, I add stevia and fruit, it's good after that. Sometimes I put organic granola and tbls of chopped pecans. Mmmm!

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I've been making my own yogurt. I am surpirsed at how much better it tastes than ANY store bought stuff I've ever gotten. No sourness at all.
And although yogurt is somewhat sour, that degree of sourness is from an incorrect or sloppy process of making it.

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Beccie, I've had that yogurt. I don't think ANYTHING will make it taste better emoticon

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I mix in homemade granola to my yogurt.

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Beccie, add whatever you like. A lot of people add honey. I like yogurt and fruit - its what I have for lunch almost every day during the summer.

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I found a yogurt here in TX, highly recommended, Horizon organic low fat plain yogurt. It just taste like sour cream. UGH!

what should I put with it to make it taste better?

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