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Oh! I just got my shipment of STEVIVA! I will try it out this evening. hmmm... what should I make? LOL!

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I think the Steviva website said to use about half the amount of sugar. But you are right, Ani, it will probably take some experimentation...
The website also had good ideas for replacing brown sugar (add molasses) and replacing VOLUME in sugar recipes, like when using the stevia powder, to take up the volume use unsweetened applesauce. I had been baking with stevia powdered extract and had often wondered about that. WHERE the 2 cups of sugar are no longer in a cookie or cake recipe, it would sure lose volume, so making it up with applesauce is an excellent idea!

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I've been using Steviva and I don't think it tastes really great by itself. It has that sharp, high sweetness if you use too much of it. However, it works very well in baked goods if, again, you don't overdo it. If you put the usual amount that is in recipes you will have put too much in. Experiment. I also use it in tea and to sprinkle on fruit in a bowl.
Speaking of fruit in a bowl; I invented a nice way to eat that. Cut up the fruit into the bowl, sprinkle on a little of your favorite protein powder, toss a bit and then pour on some low calorie white liquid like non fat milk, or (my favorite) vanilla almond milk. Toss again and it's as good as cream or better. If the protein powder has sweetening in it then that's all the sweet you need. If it's not sweetened then add something like Steviva or liquid stevia.

Low calories, high nutrition

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 9/22/2009 (13:55)
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Laura, did it arrive yet? How does it taste?

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It is a combo of stevia and erythritol. steviva.com/

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What is Steviva?

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awesome!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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My STEVIVA has been shipped! emoticon

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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Thanks so much everyone for understanding. I don't want anyone to think I sit on a high horse here. I still order out a pizza every now and again. Mmmmm

Autism, unfortunately, is on the rise and not just in the USA (Ireland was reporting 1 in 50 children last time I checked, I think the US is at 1 in 150 I stopped looking.)and noone has any explnation as to why. The Autism spectrum is so vast and no child is exactly the same which makes me feel that it's a little bit of everything. Sometimes it's hereditary, it could be the polluted water, the chemicls in the food, exposure to toxins, vaccines (and not just the vaccines we get at the Dr's office. All the meat we eat including farm raised fish, our eggs and the milk we drink is vaccinated unless otherwise specified.) We are what we eat, right?

BLACKANDI brings up a very good point about organic vs conventional vs free range etc. In Fastfood Nation, Omnivores Dilema, No Impact Man and Plenty (I got it yesterday) they all touch on how organic is big business and it's very expensive to get "certified" as organic so the FDA has loosened it's regulations and the small organic farmers that are 100% organic can't get certified.

We get our produce from an organic farm 6 miles from our home (CSA Community Supported Agriculture) but it only has a few weeks left to go. They aren't certified but I look these people in the face everytime I pick up my food and I can taste the difference. They also don't use pesticides and some of the lettuce has been nibbled. I actully like to see all those holes becuse then I know there are no pesticides on my lettuce.

When it comes down to it...we have to ask, get informed. The Big Business Food companies rely on people not questioning what they are eating. Sometimes local is better, sometimes organic is better. I found it pays to look into local sources whenever possible. Farmers markets can be fabulous options for some people if you have one in your area.

We do most of our shopping at Whole Foods and local family farms or farmers markets. We lucked out that our poultry farm, CSA and the egg farm are all on the same stretch of road.

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Amen to all of this!! We're all doing the best we can.
Sorry, Jannie that you've been through so much. I really feel for you; esp. concerning your daughter. No question in my book that she has been affected by environmental and food-born toxic cr.p! Darling girl; she has an awesome mom!! You really care; wish more people would.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Jannie1...I strive to eat like you everyday, but my body is telling me it wants sugar right now (but that's a different story - ha!). I admire you and Laura and the rest of you. Keep sharing what you all do and remember to correct me when I mess up...I appreciate that stuff A LOT! It's call support and I dig it.

Sometimes I wonder if the "organic" and "chemical-free" and "free range" plastered all over the food at store I buy from is really that. Can I ever really know??? I try not to think about it a lot because if I do I'd probably go insane. Scratch that...I'd go insane. I'm already anal about my diet regiment and my fitness needs and what not. My grandmother told me that at the end of the day to just pray over my food and to hope I'm eating the best food possible so that is what I do.

And for those of you who cannot afford to go organic or chemical free or free range then eating regular fruits and veggies are OK too because it's better than eating garbage. Do the best you can.

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LOL! I don't mind if others eat it, I just prefer not to eat it or feed it to my family.

I don't trust new ingredients because I don't trust the FDA. (My husband and I were in the military and spent a year in Kuwait/Iraq. We were loaded up with regular vaccines and exposed to undisclosed chemical fires amoung who knows what else. I also ate a ton of partially hydrogented oils & HFCS while I was pregnant and drank water out of water bottles for 10 years after I quit smoking before "they" realised the plastic holding those bottles breaks down and has BPA's that disrupt hormones and development. My daughter has autism and is seriously affected by Gluten, Dairy and Soy. Why does she have autism? I don't know exctly but I'm now very cautious and aware about food and my environment.)

I do very much appreciate learning about new foods and additives. Natural or otherwise.

I agree Ani, I'm not perfect, I don't claim to be either. I strive to just be the best human I can be and tread as lightly on this planet as I can. I tell other people what I do because sometimes it makes people look at what they do, sometimes they look deeper and sometimes they don't but I would never force anyone to live like I do. My actions are my choices.

My big thing right now is creating as little trash as possible. I read a book called "No Impact Man" over Labor Day weekend which had a huge impact on me and where our environment is at right now and where it is headed. I've also read "Omnivores Dilema/In Defense of Food/Fast Food Nation and I've seen Super Size Me and King Corn. The next movies on my must see list are Food Inc and No Impct Man. My new used book in the mail is Plently - The 100 mile diet.

I certinly don't expect anyone to hop on my slow food movement and I will NEVER EVER shake my finger at anyone here for eating what they choose. We all have a right to choose. I do love the information this team has and always look forward to learning more.

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I can totally respect Jannie's desire to stay away from things that might not be environmentally responsible. Good for you, Jannie.

My only beef with that kind of thinking in the bigger, general way is that it can trigger a type of guilt that comes from knowing, inside, that you aren't doing it in all things. This problem happens big time in religion (I'm a Christian BTW) Some (many) people hang on to certain rules and even tell others that they should live by them and forget to look at all the ways they themselves can't live up to the whole Law. If you depend on holding tight to a law in order to be...(fill in the blank) then you better take a look at the whole deal because, like a famous person said "If you break one part you have broken the whole" In other words we cannot be Perfect; only God is perfect. All we can do is choose some parts that we are comfortable with and let others do the same...with loving kindness.
Some of my friends think I am obsessive about what I eat and how I care for the environment. Others will tell me I'm not doing enough and OUGHT to do more.

We are funny ones we humans are.
Sparkpeople is a grand place to practice this love isn't it? Notice I said "practice"...we are all stumbling and learning; even at my...what's that? I have a birthday coming up in less than a week...whew! I'm getting old...sigh...

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 9/16/2009 (12:47)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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JANNIE, erythritol is naturally occuring sugar... such as the sugar found in milk and fruit. It is GOOD for you also.
I guess your rule is OK, but it also means you maybe overlooking things that are natural and healthy... and you know the old saying.
"Rules are made to be broken!"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythritol

LOL BLACKANDI! You're HILARIOUS!!! KEEN-WA (quinoa)

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I can't pronounce Quinoa the right way either which is a good thing because it doesn't taste good at all to me. Ha! It's not processed at all. Go figure! Cannot ask my grandmom or great-grandma would they eat this or that because if they had a McDonald's back in their days I'm sure they would have. That's funny too! But my grandmother (bless her heart) loves McDonald's. But I get what you mean.

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Well, that all sounds like a great substitute but my rule is "If I can't pronounce it I won't eat it." Besides, I don't like new processed things. The more processing that goes into a product the more fossil fuels we burn.

** Also I always ask myself when buying food "Would my grndmother hve eaten this or my great grndmother?" (I'm 40).

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Don't feel bad, ANI! I OFTEN have to use this dictionary to look up such things...
www.urbandictionary.com/

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I'm so old I had to ask my DH what LMAO meant. (he's younger and so much more savvy) Well, NOW I know!! Now you need suspenders to keep your pants up!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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LMAO!!!!! Too too funny.

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Okay class, lets try it again!!! LOL LOL!
Say eeee (like in eeeeK!) then rith (rhymes with myth- put the accent on that) then next comes ruh (like ruff but without the "ff") throw tall on the end and there you have it. euoriffrahtal!! Easy eh?
Or: Yourifhertall (accent on "if")
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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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When you did the enunciation on that word I started to say Euryth...and then mics came out. LOL!

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I just bought the STEVIVA blend for baking. It is a combo of the Erythritol and stevia. It says to use 1 cup of the blend instead of 2 cups of sugar. It has 2.4 calories per tbsp. I think sugar is 60 calories per tbsp if I remember correctly...
Anyhow, they are going to ship two boxes to me :)

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That's ee - rith - ruh - tall (if you can say that then you are close enough!)

Don't knopw if there's a lot of difference between brands; they all seem to work okay. Lakanto is slightly darker in color and flavor leaning (just a wee bit) towards brown sugar but not...if you know what I mean.

I need to correct what I said earlier. It does dissolve in hot liquid (like coffee or cocoa) it's just when it cools it re-crystalizes...quickly. Maybe I need to work with it some more; maybe I got it too hot or something. More research to do...sigh.

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 9/15/2009 (18:31)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Eh, how do you pronounce that? lol

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Is the STEVIVA blend better for baking?

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Oh, thank you so much for posting this about erythritol. I have been using it (by several different brands) for quite some time. I have made banana bread, muffins and even just use it to sprinkle on something that I want to add a little sweet to. It works just like sugar...except, it doesn't dissolve like sugar. I found that out trying to experiment with making a syrup (like maple syrup or something like that) and it just doesn't dissolve; it looks like it's going to and them it quickly crystallizes again into a flaky sort of thing. It sure works well in baking.
I have purchased it through:
www.steviva.com/
which has a few nice blends of stevia and erythritol
also a product called "Lakanto" from:
www.bodyecology.com/
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It's really becoming more and more available. A lot of grocery stores are now carrying it. Do look for organic and fair trade as much as possible because the sugar industry is extremely unclean and has a lot of negative social/environmental issues.

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 9/15/2009 (16:36)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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I had been doing quite a bit of experimentation with stevia. I do like it, but upon my research I had found that the packets of stevia we get (not the stevia extract, but the single serving packets) are diluted with erythritol. This is not a bad thing...
A post from ANIDUCKTHISTLE had mentioned erythritol, and I recognized the ingredient. It has been used by the many counties, such as Japan for many years. Also, it has no caloric value, and like xylitol, does not only NOT cause cavities but actually help prevent cavities.
It is also supposed to suppress sugar cravings. Now, I don't get sugar cravings like I used to, but I do like a little something sweet after dinner. I always have. Doesn't have to be SUPER SWEET or RICH. And as much as I love my yogurt and berries, a good healthy cookie (sans sugar) would be GREAT now and then. You with me?
Erythritol is a natural sugar alcohol (a type of sugar substitute) which has been approved for use in the United States and throughout much of the world. It occurs naturally in fruits and fermented foods.
Anyhow, I have never seen it in the grocery store or health food store, but I can buy it on-line in Canada. So, I'm gonna GET SOME!
I wanted to buy from the ZWEET website, but they do not ship to Canada, so there are someother places that will. I wanted the ZWEET brand because they have a product that measures cup for cup like sugar... I do a lot of baking and I think when I use the stevia extract a lot of VOLUME is lost.... things like cookies also don't brown very well unless you put some other kind of sweetener in it also...
Anyhow, I think this is a product worth checking out.

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