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Oh, I can't wait to get my book then I won't have to bother you guys with all my questions. Thanks.


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Grapeseed oil is good for high heat.

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There are certain oils that do better in higher heat then others. Canola is one of them.
believe in the 'Eating Clean book by Tosca, she describes the different oils, and which they are better suited for different cooking.
I'm not home right now, when I am, I will try to find it and post it for you.

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Yes, it does smoke if you like deep fry with it. But, I've never had any problem just using it for a quick stir fry or anything...
Also, isn't safflower oil clean?

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But I thought that olive oil wasn't good in some situations because at high heat it smokes.

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Canola oil is considered a vegtable oil. It is also listed as one of the lower fat versions as far as oil goes. Olive oil, and extra virgin are your best bet to use.

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Hmmm... when I read about canola, it didn't LOOK clean. But, then again, I don't really understand what I was reading. emoticon I will have to investigate that further. But, I always use extra virgin olive oil; I just get the real dark bottled, expensive stuff! LOL!

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So, I'm confused now, is canola oil not clean? I read a little about it but it says cleared for human consumption which doesn't tell me if it's good or not. If you know what I mean. And do you have to look for the words cold pressed or expeller pressed in extra virgin olive oil too.

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That is a total bummer! I hope our school district doesn't follow that trend!!

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Hmmm.. I got some great ideas there. Thanks ladies.
About the peanutbutter. It usually means no nuts of any kind, which pertains to us. I know, our family lives for PB!!

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At our schools, these are the food restrictions
All nut butters
Fish
eggs
All due to allergies/sensitivities and their fear that these foods would hurt the one or two kids in the schoolwith the above.

So my kids eat a whole lot of grilled chicken and turkey for 10 months out of the year. They also eat cold cheese pizza with whole wheat crust which they love. Oh and cheese sandwiches.

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No kids at home anymore to try to "sneek" the good stuff to, but just read an article on this with tips:

-"clean" smoothies from yogurt and fruits and then freeze and put in their lunch, it will act as an ice pack but then be soft enough to drink at lunch.
-dips for veggies made of yogurt and spinach (instead of yucky ranch).
-Garbanzo beans toasted (I haven't tried this but want to) toss the beans with a little olive oil, sprinkle a little sea salt and roast at 400 for about 45 minutes.
-Young ones might like any sandwich better if its cut into cute shapes using cookie cutters.
-or wraps instead of the same boring sandwich bread.
-fruit dip made from clean nutbutter (peanut, almond) and yogurt.

Happy packing to you all!
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No peanut butter?! Holy cow -- my kids would be in a world of hurt if our district ever banned it! What about almond butter will your kids eat that? Just a thought for a substitution...

We have just recently discovered almond butter and I can simply say it was love at first bite! That stuff rocks!! I plan on subbing in almond butter for peanut butter in their lunches from time to time.

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Sorry I'm so late in replying to this thread. I'm also looking for some ideas for bagged lunches. My son starts grade one too in a few weeks, and the school does not allow peanut butter ( which is his favourite!!) or fish! He' stired of yogurts, since I've been giving them to him since he was a baby.
The schools over here have gone totally healthy. No sugared drinks, pop, bars or chips-except for the baked lays, or sun-chips.
I will allow him garlic fingers from the caffeteria once a week for a treat but other wise I'd appreciate some meal ideas.
Here are some snack ideas- cheese sticks
-grapes,banana-fruit
-raisins
-sugarfree puddings
Sometimes I mix a handfull of honeycomb, or shreddies with some raisins in a snack baggie.
-granola bars,
Besides cheese sandwiches, I really don't know what I'm going to give him. He's not picky on ham. They also don't have a microwave service at lunch, so they can't reheat, or nuk their lunch.

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They must think you are the emoticon ! emoticon You are such an emoticon

Hey! These EMOTICONS are FUN! emoticon

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LOL!!! Tell that to my kids!!

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No, Didi. You are not CRUEL at all! You are a GOOD mom!

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You guys are awesome!!! I must be the most cruel mommy on the planet!!!

I pack clean luches....this is the choice
You either eat it or starve.

Both my kids have no cafeterias at their schools, and peanut butter is not allowed (the school board has banned it).

So far so good...they eat what I pack (fruit,veggies, cheeses, water,grilled chicken or baked turkey and home made breads,apple sauces,air popped popcorn,home made cookies.)

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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when its a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, theyre terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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I agree!!! Well said!

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Hawgwild, thanks for starting this thread- I think it's a great idea.

And just a reminder to everyone that we are here to stay positive and encourage eachother, not shoot others' ideas down. The topic of eating clean is widely interpreted, and everyone is doing their best. I just feel that it's getting kind of intense- JMO!

Have a great weekend, all!

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Thanks ANIDUCKTHISTLE.

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I do understand the difficulty with getting one's family to switch over to healthier foods. I too had to make a lot of compromises when I was raising my son. I mean like meeting with the baseball team at Dairy Queen after winning. How can you refuse your kid that?!! (That, of course, is just one of a thousand compromises!)

Thanks for your explanation of what you have been meaning by "clean". It's actually a striving towards it. That is VERY commendable and your influence will help many make the changes. I just hate to see people mis-informed. I can see that you understand this dilemma of wanting to eat the very best and healthiest but are having many frustrations getting there.
I probably make you mad at my critical attitude. I just find myself mad when I see ads that use words and pictures to make bad food sound good. I'm sick of it but I don't think it's going to go away very soon. Most people don't know what you know and just go on buying the bad stuff and the makers just keep selling them what they will buy...sigh. Maybe things will get better if more people like you keep pushing back.
Keep trying.

BTW Hellman's Light isn't even close to "clean". There are other, better brands but they might be more expensive too. Since you aren't eating much of the stuff then I suggest you go back to the regular kind. Your kids need the fat to help them grow and play. There are other things you can do if you fear your kids are over-weight.

Oh, about your comment on extra virgin olive oil; Just look for the words "cold pressed" or "expeller pressed" and you will avoid a lot of the bad parts of vegetable oils of any kind. If you can afford organic then that's even better. Notice, in my last post, I said "highly refined". That's a lot different than "processed". I'd be glad to explain the difference if you are interested.

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 8/8/2009 (16:47)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when its a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, theyre terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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I'm sure you are right ANIDUCKTHISTLE. The thing is, a lot of us CLEAN eaters are not always 100% clean even though we strive to be. Also, many of us are met with GREAT resistance from our families.
No. Hellman's is not 100% clean. I don't believe I made any claims as to it's cleanliness... only that my family INSISTS on eating it.
Here is a link to CANOLA OIL:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canola

I don't buy it... I use extra virgin olive oil. I'm sure someone will now tell me it is ALSO unclean beacause it has been PROCESSED! LOL!

Everyone is an expert. No one is an expert!

Edited by: FIT_ARTIST at: 8/8/2009 (16:00)
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I'm just looking at the Helman's website and the ingredients in their "Light" version (is that the one you are talking about HAWGWILD1?) Here they are copied and pasted right off the site.
Ingredients
Water, Vegetable Oil (28%), Modified Maize Starch, Pasteurised Egg and Egg Yolk (4.2%), Spirit Vinegar, Salt, Sugar, Cream, Lemon Juice, Mustard Flavouring, Preservative (Potassium Sorbate), Stablisers, (Guar Gum, Xanthan Gum), Mustard, Antioxidant (Calcium Disodium EDTA), Paprika Extract.

I won't get you crazy with all the things I could say about this product but I can positively say that I wouldn't use it myself as I know it's got bad things in it. Remember: health before weight loss not the other way around!
Kids can handle the fat in regular mayo (though there aren't many "clean" ones around)In fact, kids NEED GOOD fat for energy and cell development. This mayo might be lower in "fat" and calories but the fat that is in it is doing harm. Read about the Omega 3/Omega 6 imbalance that is out of control in our diets because of all the highly refined vegetable oils we consume. Read about how those oils are refined.

Here's a question for this this team: What's a "Canola"? Of course I'm setting you up...sorry...
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Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 8/8/2009 (15:45)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when its a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, theyre terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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My kids won't touch school lunches (thank god! lol) so I make a point to make school bagged lunches fun and healthy -- here is what I will typically put in:

*we freeze the organic yogurt tubes and put them in
*homemade yogurt parfaits with blueberries & strawberries
*whole grain bread (homemade) with almond/peanut butter (only natural) and honey
*homemade trail mix with nuts and dried fruit
*carrot sticks
*apple slices w/ cheese

I am sure I can think of more. I will post if I can think of any...

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This is something that is a struggle in my house. My son (8) has gone through stages of peanut butter sandwiches, and then Cliff Z Bars. I have no idea what to pack him this year! If I pack him carrots or grapes, they just come home with him. I give him 100% juice. He was just complaining the other day that he doesn't like them as well as the cheap, sugared ones. I told him that wasn't an option. I have tried packing yogurt but he says it warm by the time he has lunch so I put a little ice pack in then they were too cold and it made his bag heavy. Ugh! Clearly I need new ideas.

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I make Amber's sandwiches with 1 slice whole wheat bread and 1 slice white bread. She likes tuna and ham but her favorite is PB & marshmallow. She doesn't eat great, either, but neither is she the worst. I wouldn't really call her picky but she doesn't eat MUCH at any one time. She'll have brkfst, lunch & dinner but very little. And then she snacks a lot.

And she snacks pretty well. Apples she loves. And grapes and raw carrots with Ranch(low fat/fat free). Most everything in the house is no fat, sugar free.

As much as I hate to say it she usually buys a lunch. But her school allows no candy, chocolate, nothing is deep fried 7 no sugar or salt is added. The drink choices are OJ and lowfat milk-white, choc or strawb. So I don't feel too terribly bad if she buys a lunch.

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PAULINE there is a MAYO thread... hmmm.... here it is:
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I think there are at least TWO mayo recipes there. I don't eat mayo anymore (not very often) but the mayo I do buy is not too bad. (Although, maybe not great, either) My family still eats it. I buy the Hellman's Real Mayonnaise (low fat). Another member and I had discovered that the ingredients list was different then in USA than in Canada. No HFCS here in Canada. We thought that was quite interesting.

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That's awesome that you've started this while she's young. My kids have already formed their habits and it's hard to break them. I rarely get them Burger King, etc any more. They don't eat really badly but they don't eat all that great either. I can't get them to eat 100% whole wheat bread but I have managed to get them to eat fruit and one will eat veggies, the other gets gently pursuaded. LOL! I'm cleaning up the other stuff, we'll see how that goes.

Does anyone make their own mayonaise?

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Well. My five year old startes grade one next month. She is a very picky eater, but I have managed to get her to include raw carrots and broccoli, as well as green salad in her diet. She will eat most fruits; veggies is the problem!
Anyhow, I thought this would be a good thread to start before school starts, so members could exchange CLEAN bagged lunch ideas.

I'm thinking my five year old may eat NATURAL peanut butter and organic honey sandwiches, tuna sandwiches, apple or pear slices, raw carrots with yogurt dip. She also LOVES water! She will drink water alll day long!
What sort of foods do you guys give your little ones?

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