Im very intolerant to soy..My stomach cramps and Ive been tested by my Chriopractor/nutritionist. Im also intolerant to all grains including corn and rice. The only carbs I get is from fruits and veggies.
I think it's interesting that this whole anti-soy thing is really only happening in the US. It's fueled by the meat and dairy industry rather than having much basis in truth. Those industries - primarily Dairy - saw a decrease in consumption of their products due to an increase in soy consumption so they went on the attack.
Asian cultures have been consuming soy for 1000's of years and seem to be doing fine with it. The original poster said that soy isn't consumed in Europe - not true. I live in Belgium and plenty of soy is consumed here. If there's a leading culprit in the obesity in America it's probably all the High Fructose Corn Syrup (the addition of which is banned in the EU) that's to blame.
My husband and I are both vegans so we consume more than the average amount of soy and we are fine - no hormonal imbalances or anything else that's being blamed on soy in the US.
I'm attaching an interesting article about this which you might want to have a look at:
Hi! I'm actually not 40 (I hope that's OK!), but your topic was interesting.
I don't pretend to know a lot about the workings of the human body, but in the studies of the Japanese men and women, could their good heart health be linked to fish and/or rice consumption and not soy consumption? Also, on a completely different subtopic, can you substitute rice or almond milk for soy milk in baking/cooking recipes?
I wanted to be a vegetarian like my husband whom was 7th day adventist, but soya products of any description GERD my stomach and both my sons have the same food allergies.. I avoid anything with soya in it and life is peachy...
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I had heard about soy mimicking estrogen somehow but I hadn't heard anything about soy causing weight gain. Interfering with thyroid, I'd heard. I thought by avoiding soy products in general that was enough. But I had never thought of soybean oil having the same effects as tofu or vegan products. Guess I'm going to have to do some research!
Wow! I am shocked to hear about how bad soy is for us! I read the original post and was like huh?! Really? Then I found this other site and read more! It's so irritating that the FDA is so out of touch with our nutritional needs and allow so many "deadly" foods to be on the American market! Partially Hydrogenated oils, and soybeans are in so many foods! It's crazy! Follow a heart healthy diet and be good to yourself! I don't buy or endorse any of the products on the link but the story on their home page is fascinating and scary! www.optimumchoices.com/Soy.htm
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WOW!! Fascinating subject, I am surprised to learn that there's so much soy in American products! ( I live in Europe). Even more so as my endocrinologist told me to get off milk and dairy and drink soy (which I do since 18 months). I have a hypo-thyroid and take T3 and T4. I still drink soy in my morning coffee (only one a day) and cereal, but have stopped the obsession of cutting out all diary out of my diet as it did not help me with weight loss. I now eat all food groups and have lost 16 pounds (8kg's).
I will definitely look on my next blood tests if the T4 is being influenced! And discuss this with my doc!!
I recently found out I was allergic to soy after getting a battery of tests due to a sudden 75lbs weight gain. I have wondered if the soy is the main reason. I have tried to cut out soy, but it is often hidden in products. I guess the best way would be to prepare all my food from scratch. Starting Saturday I will give it a try and send a post after a couple of weeks to update those that are interested.
Thank you for the info. I too am finding that there is a lot of people opting out of Soy in their diet. It makes me feel better knowing that I am not alone. At first, many of our family members were not supportive of my diet constraints and made very light of it. I felt rather awkward attending family functions because I always have to make sure that what I consume is soy free. Since then I have become an avid gourmet cook and am truly enjoying it.
Yes, Hellman's and Kraft both (I have been told) now sell an Olive Oil Mayo that is being sold at all the major groceries (the people that told me said). I did see some somewhere, a few months back, but can't remember what brand it was.
I was amazed that those companies actually were , apparently, somewhat aware of the need!
I am looking to loose another 25 pounds. Before I changed my eating habits, I had hired a physical trainer for a year and struggled trying to loose weight. Once I started watching my protein (soy fed protein vs no soy fed protein) I started noticing that the weight was coming off slowly and I was feeling a lot more energetic. I now practice yoga aerobics and strenght training. I no longer need Zyrtec since I eliminated Soy from my diet. As to bread, I have found a small bagel that is made form Pepperidge farms that does not contain soy. They also offer the larger one but I purchase the small ones for the kids. I myself do not eat mayo but my grand children love it and I have to make it all the time with olive oil. I would like to have one to purchase so that I they can have it when I am not around. .
Yep it is in everything. We've always used just regular butter. So I just didn't happen to eat any of the foods its in, since i've always made my own salad dressings and i haven't eaten bread for years. (except what I make, which right now, I cant' even at that, but hope to rectify that situation).
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Soy is in everything! It is in most salad dressings, margarine's, breads, cereals. baked goods and coffee creamers. I have switched to regular butter, I have two salad dressings that I can use so far and found a few cereals. I was shocked when I started reading ingredients and soy or soybean was in most things. It must be a cheaper filler or something.
I also do not consume soy! I wish I could say I've lost twenty pounds, but I never consumed very many packaged foods anyway, so I have not. I'm not much of a mayo person so I haven't bought this yet, but they do make an Olive Oil mayo now. I started reading, a few days ago, one of the WAP books, by Sally Fallon and Mary Enig. It is very good.
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I found out about a month ago I was allergic to soy and now trying to find things without soy is very difficult. It is in EVERYTHING! I have noticed that my stomach is much flatter and although I haven't lost much weight my clothes fit better. I also am allergic to chocolate so I didn't know it had soy in it. I have found a couple of cererals without soy and two salad dressings.
I had gained weight and was unable to loose weight until I discovered that Soy was the culprit of my battle. Through various blood tests, my Doctor helped me determine that "Soy" was affecting my T4's. So I started tracking what I was consuming and I was surprised to see that most of the items I had been consuming had Soy ingredients. Since eliminating Soy from my diet I have lost 20 lbs. I have more energy, I take a liquid Vitamin and calcium with Magnesium and find that my system is functioning very regular. I would like to know if there are others out there. My Doctor informed me that even a little bit of Soy was not good for me. I can only consume fermented soy as in soy sauce when cooking if any or Tempe. Since I am not a fan of Asian cooking I forgo this option. I love Italian food. I now bake all of our meals since most of the prepared products have some form of soy in it. ie: soy protein, soybean oil or soy lecithin. There went chocolate! I have written to Nestle and Hershey for them to produce a chocolate bar or kiss that is Soy free for my consumption. I also went to http://www.westonaprice.org/where I got started. I typed in benefits of a soy diet...and I started my journey. One of the staples that I have missed is Mayonnaise. the first ingredient is Soybean Oil and it hurts my Thyroid. Maybe this is why there are so many obese people in the US since the Europeans do not use Soy in their foods. I know that we grow so much of it, but I would favor it for automobile consumption instead of my consumption. I have also gone soy free organic, since I do not know what the commercial farmers are feeding their cattle and stock. I was shocked to find that Starkist and Bumble Bee tuna also included Soy (bolded) as an ingredient. When did that happen? And why did they bold it? I no longer buy these products. If you have a source for soy free products please share them with me. I have a list of products which I have compiled over time and share with my other friends that are soy sensitive. I have gone to several health food stores to find that a lot of their products are organic and include soy. I do not buy any product which I cannot read the label for ingredients. My Husband recently visited his Doctor and informed him of my obsession with soy and he informed him that Soy leads to sexual male problems. I guess this is why there is so much male enhancement medication out there. My husband has finally joined me on my soy free diet and he no longer suffers from high blood pressure. I cannot speak for anyone else...but I can surely share the changes in our lives since we have chosen to consume our meals soy free.
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