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I read all these emails. Good info. I'm making a Dr. apt tomorrow

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11/22/11 1:19 P

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I read about a doctor in Italy that is under the belief that cancer is the stealing of DNA and nutrients of cell regeneration by foreign life (candida?). By assisting in the multi facets of killing drowning starving and stunting this pest; the cancer will go into remission. The results of course are mixed and the results are looking up.

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Clear all paths to love thru forgiveness.
I may not recognize the significance until some time later.
Is my resistance to change really that strong?
Impatience does not provide the time to learn the lesson;
Awaken new ways to approach the dissolving of a problem;
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11/22/11 12:58 P

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Margie,
you are right that Candida Albicans can be a big issue. I also like the point you made about people not being able to recommend someone in a different field (at least unless they know them personally or have heard from a lot of patients).
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11/22/11 11:41 A

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Brigit- you have a good point. Just because I landed in the hands of a decent person who is a doctor of nutrition does not mean all professionals in that field are as knowledgeable. I have multi symptoms I need my doctor to adjust and direct, like Shihjabo. I need one that knows more than routine procedures. The thyroid function affects and effects every cell and organ in the body; understanding the limits of the tools normally used is not enough and willingness the share the tool weaknesses and foreclosure of All options available to me may be needed. We all agree that the right person for the job is wanted. I’m sorry but from statistics and experience, the average doctor in the MD world uses formal strong broad spectrum antibiotics but does not address the many nuances of Systemic fungal invasion of Candida Albicans and all its many parasite cousins. Their antibiotic tool can reduce the fungal life but not teach new tricks to prevent it in the future. They tend to miss with diet control, serious lab testing, or select tools without negative side effects. Some fungal life forms are resistant to those antibiotics; Systemic fungal parasites leach and steal trace minerals and nutrients the body, including the thyroid, depend on. There are many professionals and their tools are at our disposal. The right tool in the right hands can do more. An effective strategy to eliminate fleas (also a pest and parasite) takes 5 steps; controlling the pest needs many steps and just taking a pill or simple remedy would not be enough. Gut flora enhancing, alteration of food habits, fortifying the immune system, and other actions produce better results The winning positive side effects are worth looking for the correct professional or professionals for the job.

Robinc821-To find a good professional takes a new perspective, a new way to proceed. Online is my first source for this research. Networking from satisfied people is another. Expectations and old limits did get you this far.

Apples and oranges…;
you can not ask the apple farmer to recommend an orange farmer. They are not his network. It is not in the nature of an MD to recommend a Naturopathic or an Organic Nutritional professional. Here is a different direction; some doctors can work from another location. The informed person you may need might be in another state and electronic communication can connect you. A personal budget and time constraints must be realistic. People have faxed-emailed-and conference called to achieve solutions because the resources in the neighborhood were not enough at the time. Welcome to the Information Age! Learning to do it yourself leaves holes and time is essential. Other symptoms promoted this condition. What is your temperature each morning before rising? Hypothyroid people tend to be too low. This low characteristic can complicate the outing of the pest. Tiredness is very complicated to address; especially if delay has affected the energy axis (pituitary hypothalamus and adrenal glands). Are you allowing enough clock time for deep restful sleep? If all else fails email me and I will share my doctor’s phone number to answer direct questions. I am not a doctor. I like my orange farmer; he doesn’t have fleas. Good luck.


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If you miss out of life to the fullest; they win.
You are the happiness master of your own mind.
Thought is an active dynamic energy to harmonize and corrolate good.
Clear all paths to love thru forgiveness.
I may not recognize the significance until some time later.
Is my resistance to change really that strong?
Impatience does not provide the time to learn the lesson;
Awaken new ways to approach the dissolving of a problem;
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11/21/11 8:05 P

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Here is a nutritionist directory by zip code.
nutritionists.healthprofs.com/cam/

I don't think you need to necessarily look for someone with a doctorate, a master's degree is probably adequate if the person has knowledge in dealing with thyroid issues.
If in doubt ask for references. emoticon

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11/21/11 7:37 P

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Sorry I have been slow in responding, I spent a long weekend on vacation and sporadically was able to pop in. Thanks for the all the infer you have all offered in here, it's amazing to have all these ideas ready for my next appointment.

Judy, I'll check those articles out :-)

Margie100%Pure, I'll look into those as well. I have heard about candida cleanses and have contemplated doing one for a while. How do you find a Doctor of Nutrition?

~Robin

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11/20/11 4:00 P

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Robinc821- I use natural T3. My current MD could not prescribe it but she looks at my lab numbers and does not disapprove of my using an ‘other’ pharmaceutical thyroid hormone product procured by a doctor to achieve better hormone health. I use GTA forte II. It is a pharmaceutical product of Biotics Research Corporation from my Doctor of Nutrition, legal doctor issued source but not via a prescription pad system. Natural places are not often AMA approved. But when my personal health rejects the normal practices; thinking outside the box and beyond the pale are needed to overcome mismatches of patient care and patient tolerance. In blending a Doctor of Nutrition to collaborate with a doctor of Endocrinology is how I get there. I totally understand that weight gain nightmare. MDs will want to prescribe Cytomel (prescription T3); it did evil things to me. Try something else and tread gently on that MD doctor. Doctors will always be needed; they know more than we do; but sharing comments of bad results from bad reactions is required of us patients for them to help us. Where does it hurt? When the right replacement for me was achieved; I dropped another 20 pounds when the T3 was rebalanced. I have hope that this is correctable via wise doctors.

Shihjabo-I have removed the signs of insulin resistance under my Doctor of Nutrition’s care; a big explanation of volume fast weight gain or insulin resistance, even of skinny people and of people of all ages by correcting Systemic Candida. Part of this protocol is I stopped consuming all processed foods. These are techniques not normally practiced by doctors of the AMA trade. I eat clean and whole. I, too, have fibromyalgia diagnosed before this program was undertaken. I have no Fibromyalgic pains unless I eat beyond my allergies and intolerances and miss the nutritional or hormone supplements that replace them. Each and every food, formal prescription medicine, and over-the counter supplement has been systematically removed from my personal use under Doctor of Nutrition supervision with MD monitoring. If I must stop eating something, I need to know the reasons. I love to stop pain, inflammation, and adjusting hormones back into a balance as seen on lab work blood test results as they improve. This is sincere motivation to continue on this ‘eat clean’ path. Maybe I can return to the general population, who eat processed, heavily sweetened, or calorie free sweeteners, and heavily preservative filled foods and medicines when things are identified AND CORRECTED.

Remember that hormones adjust to activity. Active spring and summer is a pattern for most people and may need a little less thyroid hormone replacement and fall to winter may need more due to this pattern of inactivity. Some doctors are really busy and do not take the time to give minor adjustments for maximum weight control and physical comfort, they just provide one dose and let the lab numbers fly, hopefully within reason.
Also, every one of the 5-9 fruits and vegetables provide nutrition; should you play avoidance games nutritional support is lost. This is where my Doctor of Nutrition guided me through this mine field on malnutrition from deleting good foods to better choices for me and protect my health. Everyone is different.


Edited by: MARGIE100%PURE at: 11/20/2011 (16:02)
The greatest love story is your own.
If you miss out of life to the fullest; they win.
You are the happiness master of your own mind.
Thought is an active dynamic energy to harmonize and corrolate good.
Clear all paths to love thru forgiveness.
I may not recognize the significance until some time later.
Is my resistance to change really that strong?
Impatience does not provide the time to learn the lesson;
Awaken new ways to approach the dissolving of a problem;
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Soy is bad for your Thyroid, please stay away from any soy.

You may have a Reverse T3, and Leptin resistance. If so no amount of exercise or lowering calories will matter.

Dr. Holtorf addressed this in an interview with Mary Shomon on her about.com webpage. http://thyroid.about.com/b/2009/05/14/lept
in-t3-thyroid-weight.htm

Dr. Holtorf's article on this from Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holto
rf/long-term-weight-loss---m_b_192933.
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11/19/11 8:47 A

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Robin,
There is a 15 minute Desk Routine here on SP which I found to be quite effective. You just need a sturdy wall and a chair.

You might give that a try for a week and see what you think.

and no, you weren't too graphic for the family I grew up in! LOL I thought it quite funny!

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and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight. Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and shun evil. This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones. "




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11/18/11 10:41 P

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Robin,
on the exercise front things are really tough when you have a sitting job. One thing that works for people who are sitting but not working with the public is to sit on an exercise ball some or all of the time. You can either sit on it like on a chair or straddle it like you would ride a horse. You can also roll back and do a few ab crunches on it. I'm sitting on one as I type at my computer. Not only does it improve posture but it also engages core muscles. In addition you can use to stretch lying on it once every half hour for a few seconds. Also, getting up even even for a minute every hour and doing some exercises can help a lot. I also know people who have a standing desk, sometimes just the computer on a small shelf or on top of a file cabinet at standing height for part of the day.
Hope your doctor's visit will go well and your doctor will continue to be supportive. emoticon

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Heidishope,

I used to do a bit of muscle strength training, but am on 10 hour shifts right now because my company has tons of work. A blessing really in this day and age... Great for the bank account bad for my gym time. I've cut down to aerobic exercise only and haven't been doing strength training. Maybe I should rethink that some. I guess part of my problem is that no matter how much exercise I'm doing... I have a desk job so I'm sitting 10 hours a day, and I have a one hour commute so that's another two hours on my butt.... Grand total sitting per day... 12 hours. I'm thinking my gym time is not making up for this. I'm considering doing some quick calorie burning exercise at my desk each hour to combat this.

I love your popcorn idea and it would be a huge treat to look forward to... Now the results?? Lol... Does toilet plunging afterwards count as cardio?? Oh dear was that too gross?? Lol.

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11/18/11 7:01 P

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Thank you so much for your encouraging words Lise... And constipation... Unfortunately, I hear ya on that one.... Ha ha ha ha!!!!!

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Birgit,
Thanks so much for the response! I have an appointment with my Doc on 12/12 to follow-up on my blood work. I'm going to mention the iodine and see what he thinks. I'm very lucky, he's not only a caring doctor but very open to patient questions and suggestions. He is the only one who ever suggested my free T3 be checked! Thank God. I hate to say I'm glad I was diagnosed with something but not knowing the "why."

What an awesome suggestion!!

Robin

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11/18/11 6:53 P

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Barb,

Thanks so much for the response, all of you actually, I am going to check out your page. I was thinking about cutting my calories down as well. That level is what SP set for me, I did think it was a bit high :-/. Where can I find a recipe for that stew? Sounds yummy!

Robin

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emoticon Robin,
I hear your frustration and can sympathize. You've gotten some EXCELLENT advice and comments here.
I go up and down 3 lbs for a several weeks before it seems 1 lb of weightloss stays lost. My biggest issue is constipation. Esp. since I have to limit my fruit b/c of pre-diabetes to only 2 servings per day. You'd think all the lettuce we consume it would keep things moving, but b/w hypo and fibro and bp meds, it doesn't.
Every two weeks or so I skip a lunch and eat a big bowl of popcorn with butter to get things moving. I have to pre-plan my meals all day so it doesn't sabotage my calories and fat and carbs totals.

I've also heard it takes 2-3 weeks to get your metabolism into the fat-burning mode. What kind of exercise are you doing? Some raise the metabolism better than others. Lifting weights is one kind.

Hang in there!!! Go to the fitness and nutrition sections and read, read, read.




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and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight. Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and shun evil. This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones. "




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You are doing the right things for yourself. The comments given below are excellent. I do hope that things lighten up for you.

I personally do not worry about a 2 lbs gain or loss, because our bodies can retain water and with our TOM, we do tend to put on weight at that time. Constipation is also a problem for Hypothyroids.

Keep at it, the weight will come off. emoticon

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11/18/11 11:36 A

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Robin,
have you had an autoimmune test to determine if you have Hashimoto's (autoimmune hypothyroidism)? Most doctors include that in the panel when they check T3 and T4. If it was not checked have it checked right away. If you turn out not to have Hashimoto's, your body may only need Iodine, esp. if there is any chance that you have been exposed to heavy metals (through dental amalgam, lead is common) or have been exposed to a lot of fluoride or chlorine (swimmers, people who work at indoor pools). All these can lower you Iodine levels so much that your body can not convert T4 into T3.
There is a product that is sold without prescription that has high levels of Iodine, but don't take it unless you let your doctor know if on thyroid meds because it can drastically raise your thyroid function quickly.
It is called Iodoral and another brand that is called Iodine Plus 2.
I have tried Iodoral and it works for me. IodinePlus2 is very similar and is sold through the "Women's Health Institute of Texas". I just discovered their website so can't say much about them yet but there is a huge amount of info, incl. a ton of abstracts of research on the issue.They do say not to do anything without letting your doctor know if you are already on thyroid medication. Here is a link to their webpage:

www.1-thyroid.com/dosage.htm

By the way, I would recommend against cutting your calories further if you are working out as much as you do. Your body needs to be able to rebuild. If you eat too little your body's metabolism will slow down further.
The other thing that can slow down your thyroid function is elevated cortisol levels because of high stress levels. You may want to keep a stress diary to keep track of this. I'm learning more at the moment about different types of stress that can affect us, including stress on the body from intense exercise or lack of sleep, chemical stress from toxins in the environment and of mental/emotional stress. The book by Jillian Michaels "Master Your Metabolism" is an excellent resource on this.
Hope this helps,
Birgit



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Oh Robin, I understand? I, too, have low thyroid. I couldn't lose anything either. On Oct 2, I started doing what you are doing at the bottom of your post, no bread, desserts etc. Because of a knee injury, I can't do much exercise right now, but I am trying to at least walk in the house.

However, my calories are less than yours. Perhaps that is what is making the difference. II don't add them up any more, but they are around 1200. I use Soy milk lite. I have lost 22 lbs and I haven't been able to lose for years. And I am eating out 3-4 times per week, but making healthy choices. Largely, I have been having 1/2 c Fiber one for b'fast, a hearty veg. stew with 1/2 c mixed beans for lunch and maybe fruit. Dinner 3ozs fish, chicken,turkey or pork. I also used quinoa often1/4-1-2 c some cooked and raw veggies. Later snack 1c soy milk and fruit.
I now find myself stuffed. I started at 306 but am now 284. The main thing I am doing is trying to change my brain patterns and the way I think about food. I have always tracked my food before, but I am not this time. For me, it just had me focus on food all the time. . . oh boy, I have 100 calories left. What can I eat? I pretty well know what I can have and that's what I doing. I'm not letting food stress me this time. I eat out at buffets, Chinese and Mexican and was totally amazed to find it CAN work. ( I wrote a couple blogs about my experiences at these restaurants, you might want to check out my SP)
I am taking Levothyroxide 50 mg for Thyroid, Savella for Firbromyalgia, B/P med and med for insulin resistance all of which have sodium.

You're doing the right things and you may be building muscle. I also find with some of these meds and by not eating all the fat, junk food etc. constipation can be a problem. My heart goes out to you with your frustration. I really understand. Don't give up, though. You really are doing well.
Blessings,
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Good Morning All,

Can anyone let me know what works for you? Briefly, I always had a problem with weight. I always had doctors tell me I wasn't dieting properly etc. My TSH sat between 2.6 and 3.0 so they never did much about it. That was until I took upon myself to switch doctors after gaining 25 pounds between June and Mid-August this year; without dietary change AND while hitting the gym 4-6 days per week. Instead of just running a standard TSH, he did free T3 and T4. Lo and behold, while my TSH and free T4 were within normal levels... My free T3 was rock bottom. My body is not converting T4 to T3... T3 is vital to metabolic function. So I think great, finally I can stop eating like a rabbit and gaining like a moose.

I was put on Armour Thyroid, the only medication that has T3 included. I mean Synthroid is all T4 and if my body won't convert it, it's of no use to me. I'm on 60 mgs.

I was all excited! Waited 6 weeks not worrying about seeing much happen because it takes about 6 weeks to show effect.

Results? Well joined Sparkpeople 2 weeks ago. Weight 200. Up but, ok, still fired up to go. Week one complete and weighed in = 197.8 - Ok week one for anyone else is usually better but... Yeah, ok. (I'm telling myself.) Today weight in day.... Results = 199.1 WHAT??

I am desperate for ideas here. I feel like a cow and am tired of being the picture of dietary perfection and not only not losing anything but gaining/being overweight. Has anyone else had these problems? What works for you? What meds are you on?

A few things about the way I eat: I do not eat fast food, red meat, processed food (I cook), sugar, flour, potatoes, pasta, white rice, bread, butter,goodies or deserts of any kind except maybe four times a year, no pop, no chips, I do not snack, I do not drink alcohol..

I do eat 7-8 servings of fruit and veggies (2 which are fruit), always chicken, turkey or pork, I make sure I get 35-50 gms of fiber per day. I keep my sodium low. I drink 10-12 glasses of water per day (I only drink water, except on weekends I may drink tea.) I maintain my caloric intake between the suggested levels of 1,450-1,750. Usually the low side. I've never hit 1,750.

I do exercise 3-5 hours per week. (I'm on overtime right now or it would be more.)

Slow loss I could live with.... But I am GAINING emoticon !!!!!
Any suggestions? I really want to curse but won't.... Thanks in advance for the help.
Robin

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