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2/17/18 9:40 P

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James, thank for your encouragement and the videos shared - and the article on B12. I keep walking gently in our home and then the stationary bike or seated elliptical this week - did not get to the treadmill. Life just happens and often takes priority over exercise ideals

Yes, I am up on B12 - finally asked the Dr for lab work about three years ago - confirmed I was low even though I had been taking supplements for three months. So am taking 5000 mcg B12 - methyl...form and also a B-complex 25 for variety of Bs - recently reduced from 50mg. The neuropathy has robbed freedom and speed and balance but m thankful to still be walking in our home with no assist - using one or two canes when out of the house.

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Linda,
what about therapeutic doses of a vitamin B supplement? A mixture of those is supposed to be good for nerves.
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I had some nerve issues years ago, and I self diagnosed myself with vitamin B deficiency, and supplement made a noticeable difference after a few weeks. I have digestive issues that probably impaired my B12 absorption.

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Linda,
I got a sewer and drain specialist out. A hot steam line fixed the problem in 20 minutes.

Don't worry about movement as a way to burn calories. It really makes very little difference.

Here for example:
halls.md/calories-burn-sleepi
ng/

0.42 calories per hour per pound of body weight. In my case, lets say I'm 170 pounds. If I slept 24 hours a day that would be 24*170*(0.42) = 1713 calories.

Lets say I want to loose weight by running, and I run for1 hour every day:
www.healthline.com/health/fitness-ex
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cise/running-burn-calories-per-mile

that is going to be an extra 10 calories per minute, so an extra 600 calories. Oh yes, but I'm not sleeping, so I need to subtract 1 hours of sleep from that, about 75, so I'm burning an extra 525. A whole week of that is about 3800 calories, about 1 pound of body fat.

However, perhaps some strength training? Just lifting things? Up and down the stairs? Build some muscle?

Now what about my grocery list? Here is what I bought:
- canned tuna
- whipping cream
- grapefruit (10% carbs, but for my wife)
- eggs
- cottage cheese
- salad greens
- Roma tomatoes
- coffee
- low carb chocolate pudding (about 6% of the weight is carbs)
- Coke zero

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Yup - check the blog I wrote for general news - in particular, dropped 8 points in the fasting glucose and he was sooooooo proud of good cholesterols and all systems!

Said the insurance companies will not pay for monitor or strips with my improving numbers so that is OK - I will do without unless I get worried or can't keep my carbs down in eating. I have to be in control - not depend on numbers on a machine.

We talked about Meformin med and agreed that I can do this on food control not meds at this point.

My neuropathy is the only issue that is getting worse and it is NOT believed to be related to my blood sugars since that all happened before the blood sugars went up. But it does affect the whole picture because I can not walk fast enough, safely enough to get much exercise - am working at building stamina on treadmill where I am safe and controlled heart monitors etc. but only increasing a minute per week when I am consistent.

Doing more study on low carb vs keto and still going low carb alone...the keto is too restricted in carbs and my heart stents cannot do the high fat saturated fat of most Keto.

James, I am glad for you to be home - I assume that is all a good thing for you? you will get the frozen stuff all sorted out and make a grocery store run - would be fun to see your grocery list and the reasoning behind your purchases - Hahahaha. Blessings and looking forward to more good things in our efforts towards health.

Edited by: LINDAF49 at: 2/16/2018 (17:05)
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Linda,
did you see your doctor? Talk about blood sugar stuff?

I'm back in Canada, back home. So cold that my septic field froze, and water is not draining from the house. So I can't use any water until my septic field guy comes tomorrow.

No food in the house since I've been gone for 6 weeks. But I did thaw out wieners and eat that with mustard for supper. Wieners are low carb, and don't Impact blood sugar, ... very very little.



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Thanks for sharing your "constellation" of issues.
Body fat - well I obviously still have a load of that to lose

"Pins and needles" - I have extensive Peripheral neuropathy - in specified cause but generally referred to the years of fibromyalgia - taking several supplements for that B12, Bcomplex, and and R-ALA. This is the main reason I cannot walk well, balance is messed up nd the list goes on.

Inflammation - a major part of Cardiovascular disease [I have two heart stents and genetically a mess for heart issues and Blood pressure and cholesterol - have been following anti-inflammatory diet for several years. A key component of that is celiac diagnosis and therefore total GLUTEN-free

Then the mix of fibro and the 8 hours of anesthesia for the back repair surgery have left me with some major memory impairment.

But I'm in good shape for the shape I am in for 68 years old and determined to remain as healthy as I can!!! I have a nurse-medical background so can deal with all the jargon fairly well and an adjusting to the restrictions of slowing down from a run to a walk to two canes.


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Subject: a constellation of problems

I think that there are various problems that are interconnected. Let me lay mine out.

First I have body fat to loose, I have since I was 13 or so. I can only guess that it was too many carbs, and insulin. This kept up until I got type-2 diabetes at about age 30, so about half my life.

I took metformin and other oral medications that lead to vitamin B deficiency which lead to other neurological problems. At one point I had pins and needles feeling in my arms, and blamed it on an office job with lots of typing. But I did start taking vitamin B as this was also a possible side effect of long term low vitamin B. After about 2 weeks I could say for sure that it helped.

What I didn't know was that these nerve problems seem to have impacted my brain as well. Metformin blocks vitamin B absorption, and long term low vitamin B will impact the brain permanently. Now in my case I feel like I've recovered, but not 100% recovered.

In addition, I feel that excess carbs also cause inflammation. If you eat high carb for a long time you just think that is how your body is, that is how things are. But when you cut the carbs and eat foods closer to nature, you slowly recover and discover how things should be.

Let me return to my personal constellation of problems. I lost hearing in one ear, which made my doctor concerned and ordered a MRI of my brain, and what do you know, a tumour. Post surgery I had to recover from the trauma of the surgery. I mean mental trauma. I didn't remember what was behind what doors in the kitchen. I had trouble forming sentences. So that was slow for a while. By the time I organized a sentence to say it aloud the conversation had moved on.

The MRI revealed other issues too. Some "scaring" on the grey matter. I think this is where my real problems are coming from. I'm thinking this is related to high blood sugar, and low B12 from the years of metformin.

My advice to you is pretty simple... Eat healthy. The old motto "you are what you eat" really applies, food is far more than energy or fuel, it contains the building blocks for your body. So eat real food, the closer to nature the better. Avoid "homogenized" sort of blended foods that are the same everywhere. I'm think of say white bread, marshmallows, red liquorice sticks, that are sort of like eating red plastic ... well you get the idea.

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Linda,
on the subject of carbs ...

The North American adult average is 330 grams a day. This is however I think excessive, and is the reason that so many folks in North America develop blood sugar problems. It slowly burns out the insulin mechanism.

So cutting this to 100 grams a day is really easy. It means eating real foods, meat, colourful veggies (bell peppers, cucumber, dark leafy greens) ... in other words the things people already think of as healthy. It means cutting out, or way down on processed things, like potato chips, white bread (or any bread really)... things that lack colour and are already sort of "pre-chewed".

Getting down to 50 or fewer takes more effort, paying more attention. Like carrots, a colourful veggie, but right on the edge of what would raise carbs if you are aiming for 20 per day.

Have I pointed you to my 6% food list? Six percent (by weight) is my guideline. If you eat things at that fraction of carbs, or less, then it is just pretty hard to take in too many carbs. If you eat things at 50%, like white bread, then carbs accumulate very quickly.

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This was Dr day and all good news. I did lower my official fasting glucose 8 points, lost 5 pounds and Dr is very happy with progress and says if I can keep this up I sould be out of the danger zone by next visit. He says insurance will not cover monitor or strips with my numbers - and that I don't need to use one unless I become symptomatic, gain weight or am unable to consistently keep carbs under 100 per day! WOW - I have been working at 20-50! SO will continue and keep learning and if I get worried, I will invest in one on my own without insurance help. But it is added incentive to keep losing the pounds and to keep the carbs LOW.
Forward HO and looking forward to the next chapter in my life of learning here with this team.

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Thank you - that helps me know how to word request. Since my heart meds need renewal, this should all fit together nicely. Will let you know after the appointment Tuesday morning.

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Hope you get this note before tomorrow ...

My doctor writes a prescription for test strips for my glucose meter. Yup, not a prescription for a drug, but a prescription for blood test strips.

Since the companies want to get you using their test strips (which is where they make their money) they typically give out the meters for free when you buy their strips.

Just talk to your doctor about that. Mine writes a generic prescription for blood sugar test strips, and whatever brand I need, that is what the pharmacy gives me.

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Thanks for your input - I have heard that the strips are expensive part of it and just wondering if I could get info before Dr visit on Tuesday. I'm hoping my insurance will pick it up.

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LINDAF49,
I have the Acensia Contour meter ... no strong reason on that. Meters are usually free, but the test strips are expensive, and I submit those to my health care insurance, just like I do medications.

Its really up to you and your doctor to set up times to test blood sugar. But the typical times are:
- on waking
- before a meal
- about 45 minutes after a meal
- about 90 minutes after a meal

I know for myself that 90 grams of carbs a day is way more than I can handle, even 65 is probably too much, and I aim for 20 but am OK with 30 to 35. But that is just me. Everybody has a different carb tolerance.

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Just a gentle reminder ... type-2 diabetes is just a lack of tolerance to carbohydrates. It is an arbitrary line in the sand. Cross the line and you are type-2.

But others are just on the other side of that line and are technically not type-2, but just barely. Yet others are far from the line.

Food choices are huge. Eat sugar, blood sugar goes up, and for a type-2 just stays up too long. What is the "cure" ... don't eat sugar. What else? Don't eat things that raise blood sugar.

The big question is, what is it that raises blood sugar besides sugar? The answer is carbohydrates, any type really. I personally don't view them as "good" carbs, or "bad" carbs. To me this is like "good" criminals and "bad" criminals. I don't see a difference. A "good" carb would just be one that doesn't spike blood sugar, but rather than spiking blood sugar it raises blood sugar not so high, but over a longer time.

Sort of like to you want bad pain for a short while, or a dull ache but for a much longer time ... hmmmm.

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Welcome to February!

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Hi ROMAN122B,
it is a hard thing to be diagnosed with diabetes (type-2 I presume). Type-1 is no insulin, and type-2 is that you either don't have enough insulin, or your body isn't reacting to the insulin.

The main hope is to remember that each person has their own personal tolerance for carbohydrates. There is a somewhat arbitrary line in the blood sugar sand, cross the line and you are diabetic. Cross a different line and you are pre-diabetic.

However, if you cut your carb consumption down, your blood sugar will go down, and even if it is diabetic levels today, a change in diet will put you in a different category.

Carbs are also addictive. People think of cigarettes, alcohol, heavy drugs as addictive, yet food itself can be addictive. So it isn't a weakness necessarily. Take alcohol as an example, some folks can consume alcohol and not become alcoholics, and some can't. But with food, ... well everyone has to eat.

It is really a matter of what you eat. I'm always here to chat.

- James

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A pretty simple breakfast today. Coffee with cream (virtually not carbs in that), two egg omelette (about 1 gram of carbs across both eggs), and some Gouda cheese. I have no exact Idea about the carbs in the cheese, but very low.

So probably 4 grams of carbs in breakfast. With my target of 30 or fewer, that leaves about 26 for the rest of the day... lots of room for good, healthy things.



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Subject: Peanut Butter

Here is the nutrtiondata page on peanut butter:
nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes
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and if you set the service size to 100 g you will find 20.0 grams of carbs 6.0 of which are fibre.

Some folks count total carbs, some don't count fibre. I am inconsistent, but mostly I don't count fibre. So that ranks peanut butter as 14%. Yes, again above my 6% guideline. What would a tablespoon of peanut butter have? It weighs about 15 grams, and at 14% that means about 2 grams of carbs.

I eat a few squares of dark chocolate now and then, the 85% cocoa kind, and each square has about 2 grams of carbs, so it seems pretty comparable. So my advice, have you tablespoon of peanut butter, as its really all about total carbs for the day. My carb target is 30 grams, and 2 grams from a tablespoon of peanut butter, or dark chocolate fits into that.

Its really all about finding a sustainable, pleasurable way to eat, and yet one that also cuts the carbs down, probably way down.

To put this in perspective, a slice of white bread has about 12 grams of carbs, an two slices in a regular sandwich has about 25, and if you put strawberry jam in the middle another 10 or so, for a total of 35.

And we are quibbling about 2 grams in a tablespoon of peanut butter.
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I find this syrup in the regular aisle in the grocery store, where the other syrup is:


E.D. Smith



And the pancake or waffle recipe is here:
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Eight of these little pancakes have one gram of carbs, and I usually eat about 5 in a breakfast. I make a batch and eat over about 2 days.

While you've seen that 6% food list, the purpose of it is not a hard cutoff, but an awareness, and the higher something gets the less of it I eat. So I have peanut butter in my fridge. I do have some of the lower carb maple syrup, ... well syrup, I'm not sure any maple tree was hurt in its creation, ... probably not. Real maple syrup info is here:
nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/
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But comparing E.D. Smith syrup to regular syrup, percentage of weight that is carbs:
Real Maple Syrup (60%)
E.D. Smith Syrup (15%)

So this indeed is well above my 6% guideline, yet I eat some. So my pancakes don't swim in this syrup, just enough for taste. Sometimes I even weigh the syrup on my plate with my digital scale. If you looked at the recipe page, I was counting on 30 grams of syrup, which at 15% makes 4.5 grams of carbs from the syrup. If you find it, be careful, there are two types of E.D. SMITH "NO SUGAR ADDED" syrup, an one says it is "buttery". The buttery one has more carbs than the other one, quite a few more.

I think that carb addiction is really a blood sugar thing. Yes also involved can be "feelings" of wouldn't it be nice to have ... but not a true physical addiction. So eating foods that taste like their high carb counter parts, in my opinion, is not a slippery slope as they don't have carbs. You do what works for you. What works for me is a broader range of low carb things.

I'm not sure about the damage done by diabetes and insulin resistance. I've read about reversing type-2 diabetes, but never seen it in practice. I've talked to some medical doctors, and their opinion has been consistent, not reversible. On the other hand, cutting carbs sooner puts less stress on that system and the burnout can probably be halted. So the sooner you stop the stress on that system, the better. I think it is beta cells in the pancreas that are the issue. Those cells create insulin, and you can do your research on them if you are curious.

On the other hand, I do eat far healthier than I did before, and I enjoy what I eat.

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As for peanut butter, I don't really eat a lot. I have about one tablespoon per day for breakfast. I find it is a comfort food. I have my peanut butter and I am ready to face whatever the day gives me. The peanut butter also keeps me full until lunch with no desire to snack.

James? You can get low carb maple syrup? I have the real stuff. I am not sure where it would fall on the diabetic scale so I have been avoiding it for now. It is completely natural, but it tastes like pure sugar, like very rich sugar.

I have ordered some stevia seeds that I am hoping will help me with any sugar problems that I may face in the future. This is going to take a while to learn, but I have the rest of my life. Even if I beat this, as in no medication, I am still going to continue with the nutrition that I am learning about. I am trying to make this a lifestyle change that I am going to stick with for the rest of my life.

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Here is what I do. I buy the natural peanut butter, with no sugar added, though frankly its carb count is about the same as the one that is pure peanuts.

But I buy the pure peanut butter, nuts only, and you can tell on the store shelf that it has separated (some oil on the top). To one of those jars, after opening I add about 2 tablespoons of salt, into the oil on top, and then mix it all up. Its tricky as the jar is pretty full, so I do it in a mixing bowl and put it back in the jar with a rubber spatula, but its worth it. That natural peanut butter is missing some salt, so it makes a huge difference in taste.

So either reading the nutrition label, or googling "nutritiondata peanut butter" I quickly find this page:
nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes
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nd-legume-products/4366/2

I set the serving size to 100 grams, and read off the carbs:
Total carbs (20 g)
fibre (6 g)

There is a debate on whether you count fibre grams or not. As you look into fibre you find that it is either roughage (no calories) or soluble fibre, but even the soluble fibre seems to be indigestible to you, but digestible to bacteria in your gut. Indeed termites can eat fibre, but humans can't. So I don't count fibre and discount it from total carbs, so 20 - 6 leaves 14.

So peanut butter is 14% (by weight) digestible carbs. Is that so bad? Well, don't eat a whole lot of it, but some is fine. As I look at a few other things by the fraction of their weight that is carbs:

Yogurt, plain (4.7%)
Blackberries (4.9%)
Raspberries (5.4%)

So peanut butter, about 3 times the fraction of carbs that plain yogurt has, but lets put that in perspective:
Sugar (100%)
Cashews (29.4%)
Cheerios (64.6%)
Raisins (75.5%)

Yes, garlic is high:
Garlic (31%)

But how much garlic do you eat? Virtually none, just a little for flavour. Its so much easier to eat a bowl of cheerios, or snack on raisins.

Don't worry about the garlic, the quantity is so small. My advice on the peanut butter, have some, but not large amounts. I put a little peanut butter, and low carb maple syrup on my pancakes (those made from protein powder). I'm not suffering, I'm enjoying my food, and my blood sugar is under control with no drugs.

Remember its not just the fraction of carbs in a food, but how much of it you eat, to get the total grams of carbs. I'd eat something that is high in carbs, as long as the quantity is low. I eat a few cashews now and then, just a taste, I'm talking like 10 or 15 nuts, not a bowlful.

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James, I have been to Alberta once, about 10 years ago. It was beautiful. I have always lived in Canada, on the east coast.

I am using the Spark Nutrition Tracker. I discovered it a while ago when I was exploring the site. I discovered that I liked how the meals were structured so I changed my meals to the diabetic option. I have been learning more about food though. There are a couple of other people on another team that are helping me out a bit too. There is a lot to learn.

The doctor gave me samples of Janumet. I think that it was just what he had in his office. I don't have a medical plan for drugs. He said to take one just before breakfast and one just before supper. I didn't know about the stomach upset though. Luckily, it is easing. I was able to move around yesterday.

I took a look at that list. Unfortunately, the peanut butter and the garlic on the do not eat list is impossible for me. I love garlic and I live for peanut butter. lol

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Sherri,
you and I are both Canadian! I'm from Alberta, and though I've lived 4 countries, I'm back in Alberta.

Ah you are counting grams of carbs. That is a great way to do things. I've done that. But now I have a range of food that I eat. I learned the range from carb counting though. Breakfast today was pancakes made from protein powder as a wheat flour substitute. I had 5 small pancakes, and I know each one had about 1/2 a gram of carbs, maybe a little more, but certainly less than 1 gram each.

I've never taken Janumet. But as I look at that drug it is a mixture of metformin and sitagliptin. I've been on both together as separate pills, so really the same thing. It is probably the metformin that is upsetting your digestion. Are you taking the pills with food? I think that way it upsets your stomach less.

If you are into carb counting, that is great. You are certainly headed in the right direction. You are figuring things out so quickly. I can point you to a list of low carb foods that I put on SparkPeople. I did calculations for various common foods, like say carrots. I did the calculation for 100 grams of carrots (see may Canadian, metric side is showing) and got 6 grams of carbs, so by weight it is 6%. So this list has percentage of weight that is carbs.

Then with my digital scale, a weigh my portions as I put them on the plate. If it is say 50 grams of carrots, well 6% of that is 3 grams of carbs. That is how I view how "carby" something is, by what fraction, or percentage of its weight is carbs.

Sugar: 100%
Banana: 20%
Green Pepper: 3%

Here is that list:

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Hi James. I am currently taking Janumet, which contains Metformin. I am still trying to enjoy food. I made myself pizza for supper last night. I found a low carb crust recipe here on Sparkrecipes. Only 2 carbs per serving. Right now, with taking the new medication, the problem seems to be eating anything. The medication is upsetting my stomach enough that I don't feel like eating anything. Skipping meals has been a bad habit of mine that I am trying to fix. Right now my solution is to prepare enough food to last a couple of days when I do manage to cook. I understand that food is not the enemy, I just did not eat if I was not hungry. I have definitely not been hungry. I am managing to not skip meals though. Even if I am not hungry, I am eating anyway.

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What is the medication? Metformin?

Here is a way to look at foods. As a source of building blocks for your body. Not just a source of calories.

I'm going to take you on a journey here ... I do hope you are up for that.

OK, so whst is the one thing you should certainly avoid? I hope you said sugar. Why is sugar so bad? Besides the fact that it raises our blood sugar (let's not forget I'm a type-2 diabetic myself), it is totally useless from a nutrition point. I use the nutritiondata website all the time. Here is the information for sugar:
nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/
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Look at all the zeros, except for calories and carbs. So you'd have to guess that the diabetes association, in telling you to avoid sugar, is really telling you to avoid carbs.

Also that site gives daily amounts of things needed. For example let's "eat" some real food, like a green pepper:
nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetab
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and set the serving size to a medium pepper, maybe in my salad, and look at the number of non-zero values. Why 159% of my vitamin C needs (%DV means percentage of daily value, or daily needs). A bunch of other things in the 10% range, like vitamin K at 11%. It has sugar beat hands down.

I think about eating healthy a lot. I also think about avoiding carbs, and sugar is pure carbs.

So don't worry, enjoying food isn't over, it's just different. I'm enjoying a snack of brie cheese right now:
nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-a
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Look at the carbs in that? Almost zero? Tastes great too.

I do look forward to hearing from you tomorrow.

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Thank you James. I am trying to take control but sometimes it gets a little overwhelming. I have discovered that my body does not seem to like my medication. I am feeling really sick every time I take it. I figure that it is just because my body is not used to it yet. It better get used to it soon because not taking the medication is not an option. I find that the medication is making me sick enough that I can't exercise. I have to take one before I eat breakfast. My solution? Exercise before breakfast. It worked pretty good this morning. Challenge number one in living with diabetes accepted and overcome. Yay!

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Hi SHERRI-G,
I'm here everyday. If is rare that I miss a day.

I did put a post for you under the introductions topic.

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There is a generic rule that is good for diabetics to follow. Don't eat "white" things.

Eat colourful things. Colourful things have nutrients. White things are typically over-processed, and so digest very quickly and spike blood sugar. Then there are just plain white things that are high in carbs.

Typical white things:
- sugar
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both apples and peanut butter are on my edge of things to eat, I eat both in small quantities, and bread ... except for an occasional taste, like about 1/8 of a bun, virtually never. A whole sandwich .. never.

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I made the idiotic mistake of eating a sandwich yesterday....I think I was craving bread....I have to have bread in the house for my husband....anyway, I had the sandwich....inside the sandwich was sliced apple and peanut butter.

So, no surprise....FBS this morning was 124.

Bread is an absolute NO NO!

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Amy (ACOYNE728),
your plan of under 50 grams of carbs a day is very close to mine. I aim for 30, and sometimes I'm a little higher, but my 30 doesn't count fibre. So perhaps we are very close indeed.

I saw your post on the message board here. Are you having a problem with artificial sweeteners? First of all, something like splenda is typically bulked with maltodextrin, so that it measures like sugar, but actually maltodextrin itself is not sweet, but it is just a form of sugar, a carb, and the actual calories in that stuff make it pretty much the same as ordinary sugar.

Sucarlose itself is sweet, but not found in nature, it is manufactured. All in all very .... well very strange stuff. All other artificial sweeteners are chemicals that one should be suspicious of. I myself drink some diet pepsi, but on average probably one can a day.

If you've cut your carbs to the 50 range and you are loosing body fat (as it sounds from your home page), then you are absolutely on the right path. 50 gives you just enough room to eat some real food, like broccoli, cauliflower, romaine lettuce, a few carbs in the ranch dressing ... It short you get your protein (meat ....) and you get a lot of healthy nutrients, and you cut the nutritionally empty calories (sugar, starch ...).

As a diabetic one's goal is blood sugar control, as a type-2 diabetic that is typically lower is desired, and the key is that all carbs (except fibre) raise blood sugar, not just the sweet tasting carbs. Also, carb high things tend to be low in nutrients, and sugar is the poster child for this. No nutrients of any kind, all calories. I use Dr. Fuhrmans idea of:
HEALTH = NUTRITION / CALORIES

In other words get the most nutrition per calorie consumed. There are so many nutrients that you can't get all you need from any one food, you must eat a variety, however it sure helps me stay away from nutritionally dead stuff like sugar. To put a number on these things take a look at the nutritiondata website, it has both brand name and generic foods (like radishes). Here is its listing for sugar:
nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/
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I always set the serving size to 100 grams and read off the stuff. In the case of sugar, a zero, or very near zero on everything, minerals, vitamins, protein, .... everything except carbs and calories, and carbs are not an essential nutrient, they are just energy, or calories.

I'm here daily. Your path sounds absolutely great to me.

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YSEAULT, how are you doing since your dx?

Have you committed to LOW CARB?

I got the shock of my life in August when my a1C had jumped to 7.8 from 6.5 a few months earlier. I think steroid injections this summer helped it along.

I committed to low carb middle of September after a few weeks of denial about the situation.

Taking metformin now too.

Hope you are doing well. Join us on Sparking Low Carb.

I'm trying to stay under 30 net carbs per day.

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LBR605,
GREAT! Well loosing weight, and needing new clothes is a small problem compared to staying unhealthy.

Great work on cutting those nutritionally empty calories (bread, sugar, pasta). As the weeks and months go by you will find it progressively easier to not eat them. It is an addiction, and once broken it is much easier.

One thing you did write is no sugar on your breakfast cereal. I remember that too. Keep in mind that carbohydrates don't have to taste sweet, but hit blood sugar all the same. So that is why you've cut pasta. But look for carbs everywhere. Let me compare pasta (cooked) to say corn flakes. I go by what fraction, or percentage of something is carbs:
sugar (100%)
Corn flakes (80%)
Bread (50%)
Pasta (30%)

So you can see how much breakfast cereal is like sugar. I eat eggs and bacon for breakfast, and other low carb things.

Read labels when shopping. Or do your pre-shopping research here:
nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-
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On that site I find the food, set the serving size to 100 grams and read the carbs as a percentage.

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Sorry for the late response .... just busy. Yes I made those food choices that everyone has a rough time with. I cut out the bread, sugar , pasta.( I might have 1 piece of bread a week..the sugar...none in my coffee, on my cereal...sweets..none) I was walking on our tread mill each day for about 20 to 30 minutes. My wife has helped me by trying to fix meals that healthy for us. My plan is to maintain and even lose a few more. The only problem is getting new clothes....that a good problem I guess. It is a mindset.....I have to do this....I will do this.

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LBR605!

Ah, you are still here... wonderful.

So what did you change? I'm guessing if is food choides. But changing long habits ...

What are your future plans for that path? I'm asking because I'm curious, and also because I want others to follow your success.

I myself have cut the carbs way way down.

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Thanks for the encouragement James! I plan to keep it up....I might not test my glucose like I have been everyday but then again....no meds of diabetes sounds great.

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LBR605,
GREAT!

So you've lost some weight, which decreases insulin resistance, and you've probably changed what you eat to some degree.

My advice, keep eating as if you had diabetes, at least most of the time.

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To all my fellow team members ..... it is with great sadness.....no..... great joy that I can say that my Dr says I'm no longer diabetic. I have got to keep up with it....I will still be a member but I won't be posting much. Keep up the good work everyone!

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Sherry, YSEAULT,

Check out the team "Team Keto!"

I thought I read this discussion every day. But it looks like I missed a few days.

As for food and blood sugar. The choices you make on what to eat are hugely important. All carbs (except fibre) impact blood sugar.

The quickest change, without much thinking is to cut the things with sugar and higher carbs. So here us what to cut:
- sugar
- chocolate and other candy
- rice
- potatoes
- pasta
- bread
- breakfast cereals

One idea is to not eat white things. So sugar, rice, bread... White things are typically over processed and have lots of carbs.

You may think that there is nothing left to eat. Not true. I often have eggs and bacon (of some other meat) for breakfast. Sometimes a weiner or two zapped in the microwave with shredded cheese melted on top (Yup, for breakfast).

As for vegetables, the opposite of white is colourful, so indeed eat colorful vegetables. Bell peppers, zucchini, cucumber, radishes, ...



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Cuppa,
Check your spark mail, I invited you to a Keto team.

I'd say your blood sugar was high. I don't know about out of control. Clearly you've made some changes in what you eat for your blood sugar to start coming down.

Food choices are hugely important.

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Hello, I've just (48 hours ago) been diagnosed with what my doctor says is "uncontrolled diabetes". He did not say what kind, but I assume it's Type II; now whether or not it's a Type 1.5 LADA, or what, I don't know. I just know that he told me to get my butt in his office on Friday morning after blood work was done on Thursday.

Numbers wise: A1C of 11.5; FSB 282 (done on same day)
2 hours post breakfast on Friday = 360

So here I am....still a wee bit in shock mode, but kicking myself into gear to beat this!

He has me on 10 units of Lantus at bedtime, and testing only once a day, when I wake up. I've had 2 doses of Lantus so far and my numbers have been 226 & 224 on each following day.

I plan on doing LCHF/Keto to get this under control. Now I'll be off to do some reading on the Community posts.


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Hi Everyone! I was diagnosed last week with Type 2 diabetes. It's a diagnosis which has been coming for a while. I have a very strong family history of diabetes. I am struggling with feeling like I have been issued a death sentence and embarrassment because I feel like I have failed myself. My GP has put me on metformin which this week has made me pretty sick and has not helped the "poor me syndrome". The symptoms are easing though. I am working on eating very low carb and was wondering if there is a target number of carbs to shoot for? Also, I was wondering if I am ok with my gp or should I see an endocrinologist?

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Good morning. I was just diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes after being admitted to the hospital with diabetic ketoacidosis. I am now checking doing checks 4 times a day with a long acting insulin at bedtime and short acting before meals. The doctor also added metformin twice a day. Just here to get some ideas on how to eat healthy and keep my glucose levels at healthy levels.

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emoticon 1BODY1LIFE, the most important thing to know is that all carbohydrates (not just sugar) impact blood sugar. If I ate pasta my blood sugar would go up.

On the carbs, you can cut them as low as you want. You can print out the part of this page and take it when you see your doctor or nurse:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbohydrate

Down on that page you will find:
"Carbohydrates are a common source of energy in living organisms; however, no carbohydrate is an essential nutrient in humans."
It's just under the picture of grain products.


emoticon MONTHURS, sorry you had so much trouble poking. I prick myself on the side of the fingers, just between the finger nail and finger print area. So away from the nail, but not yet on the sensitive finger print. If a poke doesn't drip blood I give it a gentle squeeze. If that doesn't work, well, then another poke.

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It would be nice if the blood glucose reader were actually user friendly. All we get is an error msg. Its a brand new meter. Very frustrated, at the moment. I even found a demonstration video that shows how to use it. A few bloody fingers & wasted test strips later, and we still don't have a reading.

OK. 3 finger pricks, later, and we finally figured out how to use the meter. emoticon His fasting blood glucose level was 126 mg. I think that's better than last time. Going to go compare numbers....

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I'm a type-2 diabetic myself.

Metformin is a medication that makes your own insulin more effective at lowering blood sugar. Of course if this drug alone isn't enough there are other medications to take with it, like sitagliptin (trade name Januvia).

If those oral medication aren't enough there is insulin injections.

But, the oral medications, and the insulin itself, all have the purpose of lowering blood sugar by storing it way in cells, so getting it out of the blood stream. Chances are it will be stored into fat cells, making weight loss harder.

Q: So how do you lower blood sugar "naturally" without medication?
A: Eat fewer carbohydrates in the first place. Not just sugar seriously down, but all carbohydrates, so potato chips, rice, pasta ...

I'm always here to chat. Everyday. Trust me, change what you eat and you will loose yet more body fat, and without much hunger.

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VIKINGWIFE1,
I know how much of a downer it is to be diagnosed as a diabetic (presumably you are type-2).

Its like everyone else is fine, but not me. Well, that isn't really true. Half of the adults in North America have diabetes or pre-diabetes:
www.livescience.com/52111-diabetes-p
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That may not make you feel much better. But its not unusual. So what to do? I'm sure your doctor told you to eat healthier, or scheduled an appointment with a dietician. I'm sure you'll agree that sugar is really bad for diabetics.

So how to eat better? I don't eat sugar, which has 100% of its weight as carbohydrates. In fact the closer something is to 100%, the more I want to avoid it. So here are some typical high carb things and the fraction or percentage of weight that is carbs:
- sugar (100%)
- Cheetos (55%)
- bread (40%)
- cooked rice (28%)

You get the idea. Really, as far as blood sugar goes all carbs are about the same, sweet tasting or not.

So what to eat to get better blood sugar?
- meat (0%) just no sweet sauces on them
- cheese (1%)
- colourful veggies, like green peppers (5%)

I'm always here to chat, encourage, and give you ideas.
- James

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MONTHURS,
There are two scales for measuring blood sugar. One is milligrams (a weight) per deci-Litre (a volume)

On this scale numbers for non-diabetics are under 100 For morning fasting, 70 to 99 before a meal, and less than 140 two or more hours after a meal. So 160 is slightly high.

The other scale is millimoles (a particle count) per litre (a volume) , mmol/L. If you divide the mg/dL number by 18, you convert to mmol/L. So the 7.2 mmol/L corresponds to 129.6 on the other scale.

So what to eat? Very seriously cut sugar, which is just pure calories, no nutrition. It is 100% carbs. All carbs impact blood sugar, it doesn't matter if they taste sweet or not, of are a type of sugar, or not. I just looked at a spaghetti sauce in my fridge. It says a 125 ml serving has 11 grams of carbs, 2 of which are fibre. Fibre is not digestible, do don't count it, that leaves 9 grams of digestible carbs that impact blood sugar. Also 125 ml of water weighs 125 grams. Most liquid things are pretty close to water, do j just assume the 125 ml weighs 125 grams. So... 9 out of 125 is 7.2%. This is just on the edge of what I eat.

Cheerios rate 65%. So it's like eating 2/3 their weight in sugar, and I would never eat that.

Read your labels. I'm here daily to chat.
- James

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I'm a bit confused at the numbers. 2 separate appts, with diff DRs, that were 3 yrs apart. First doc said DH blood glucose was kinda high (but didn't mention the actual numbers.) Fast forward to now, new doc, new place...she said he was pre-D. When accessing the info, the numbers WE see don't look like pre-D. They look like full blown D.

He is either 150 or 160 (sorry, that's the best I can do.) Other number is 7.2.

These aren't horrible numbers, but, they aren't good either. As I've mentioned, he's quit all soda. (For as long as I've known him, he's drank soda for everything...like it was water. To quit that is REALLY difficult. And, he quit cold turkey. Yes, the glucose numbers scared us.) We're now both strictly keeping within SP calorie ranges. We're striving to eating healthier, but, are new at knowing what are the best & worst foods. Just got a recommended cookbook & feel slightly less overwhelmed....but, still overwhelmed.

B/c things seem to happen in 3s, there are other stressful events going on around us (extended family.) This is another reason for me feeling overwhelmed, as I feel as tho I can't talk to anyone about it. Thank goodness, there is my faithful pup (our own personal therapy dog, is what I call her.)


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ASH-LI,

carbs are addictive. They impact blood sugar, and hunger the most. Once you get onto that path you just keep eating carbs and more carbs. You get hungry, you eat more carbs as the solution.

Eating too many carbs puts a stress on the body to try to continually lower blood sugar, and ultimately that stress leads to type-2 diabetes. Once can take oral medication to lower blood sugar, which basically makes existing insulin more effective. But insulin is a fat storage hormone, getting excess blood sugar out of the blood, and into cells, typically fat cells. Alternately one can attack the issue earlier on, that is in what one eats.

What I think is best for you is to eat things that don't have carbs. Don't worry about calories. Fat for example has the most calories per gram, but has no impact on blood sugar, your hunger will be far more even eating fatty things.

It does take about 3 days to break the worst of a carb addiction. Possible headaches (take extra salt). But after 3 days the skies open and it is much easier, after a week or 10 days and you really are in the clear.

My breakfast on most days is either eggs, like an omelette with cheese and bell peppers, or fake pancakes made with vanilla protein powder rather than wheat flour.

Here is a list of low carb foods to get you started on what to eat. Yup, lots of veggies, but also any meat you want, just no sugar based sauces on them. Also any cheese. Trust me, after a month of a change in diet the veggies taste great. I myself used to dislike them.

Here is a list:
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Edited by: -JAMES- at: 4/26/2017 (10:25)
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4/25/17 4:45 P

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Hi,

I am also newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I'm trying to follow the sparkpeople guidelines in the tracker but today I'm just plain hungry and ready to eat any carb that gets near me.

Can anyone help or give me some guidence? How much salad can one woman eat?? Or broccoli?

Thanks!

Ash-li

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4/22/17 7:07 P

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I don't know if you are aware of it, but the biggest blood sugar impact is made by carbohydrates.

Second to that is excess protein. The first 80 or so grams of protein have virtually no impact on blood sugar because your body needs them for muscles and organs, and above that, say to 120 grams only mildly so. I've done experiments on myself with drinking protein powder based shakes, and seen no impact even though I drank 100 grams of protein. My wife was not happy with that experiment.

If you get your protein from real food then 100 grams of protein is actually pretty hard to consume, it is about that in a one pound steak, but digested much slower than my protein shake.

Lastly is fat. Dietary fat has no impact on blood sugar.

Why am I thinking about this at all today? Because I just discovered the difference between Brie and Camembert cheese. I like both, and they are essentially the same. Brie has more cream and is softer. But I've decided, I like Camembert, because it cuts easier.

Camembert, by weight is about 0% carbs, 25% fat, 20% protein and the rest is water. But, for a diabetic, something wonderful to eat. Tasty and super low impact on blood sugar. Virtually any snack will have more impact that Camembert.

It was how wonderful Camembert is that got me thinking about all the blood sugar implications.

Edited by: -JAMES- at: 4/22/2017 (19:26)
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3/25/17 9:10 A

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It takes some time to switch body chemistry to more easily use fat for fuel rather than carbs. It isn't a meal to meal thing, or even a day to day thing.

It takes a good 3 days to a week to more easily burn fat, and get more energy back. That's my thought.

James


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I feel that I have been an official diabetic for 2 days now having checked my blood sugar 2 mornings in a row and have given myself insulin 2 days in a row. My blood sugars have ranged from 240 to 400. Following the low carb diet has been a challenge and I am so very tired.

If I can dream it I can do it.


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