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ARTSKY,
I went to art school, and for a short time my wife took my artistic ideas seriously. A few months into our marriage she asked my parents about that. Turns out it was an art school summer camp, between grade 1 and 2.

So much for my formal art education. We still basically agree on artistic stuff, like home decor, but I never bring up my formal education, except as a running joke.

James

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James if you want to know why I use Artsky look on my page and photos. I've been painting sene 2007. the only class I ever failed was Art. The feathers are real feathers I paint on.
Have a great day.
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Hi all
James I'm seeing a dietticen and she has me eating more carb. then I was before. She heas me on 4 meals a day. For me that too much but I'm trying. I lost 2.25 this week. So far 4.75.
The best thing she told me is to takt has slowed me down in eating. My blood sugar has been better sence I started the pills. This AM it was 104.
I hope you have a good day and think thin.
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ARTSKY,

You probably know that there are two things that impact blood sugar, high carb foods (sugar is the highest, but rice, potatoes, pasta are also high). All foods can be ranked.

But existing body fat, just by being there somehow impacts insulin resistance. In other words loose body fat and your blood sugar gets better. I don't umpnderstand why.

In my experience, if you are in the process of loosing body fat then blood sugar just gets better. What diet are you following? Any particular one, or style, or just eating less?

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James no I didn't loose that much. Years ago I lost 80 lbs twice and now have that on plus.
I have loss 5 lbs in 2 weeks with this new diet. I'm hopping it will keep going for about 30 to 50 lbs.
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ARTSKY,
I hope you don't mind my asking ... I see you lost 94.5 pounds, I presume that is fantastic.

I myself had a disease hit me decades ago and lost a lot of weight and was seriously concerned my weight plumetted, in fact I thought I was going to die. It went into remission and I pulled out of that nose dive. In fact, quite the opposite, I've been a little overweight most of my life.

So how are you feeling about your current weight? Is your doctor adjusting your metformin dosage over time? Excess body fat is a key component to insulin resistance, and type-2 diabetes, and I'd have to guess that you have a lot less insulin resistance after loosing that weight.

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Good morning all and Happy May Day emoticon emoticon
Not much going on here. Went to church and Brunch. My BS was normal today.
Take care I care Artsky

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James yes I'm on Medform and this morning fasting it was only 85 mostly it's between 125 - 135
not sure whats going on but I'm trying to eat more and not gain. Tricky tricky.
I'm very sleepy today. But than I was very busy for me cleaning my oven took me most of the day. Thanks for the info. Thanks and have a great day.
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ARTSKY,

I almost never have the problem of low blood sugar. Sometimes the opposite, but that can always be traced to what I ate in the last 24 hours.

65 mg/dl or the equivalent 3.6 mmol/l does sound low. If mine ever gets to 80 mg/dl, and it almost never does, I feel mentally blurry, and weak. I feel that way, then take my blood sugar to confirm what is up.

Are you taking some diabetes medication to lower blood sugar? If so it makes sense to try to keep that in balance as you did.

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Good morning all. I hope you all have a good day.
How low is too low for BS? Last night I got to 65. I thought it was a little low so I ate a few wheat crackers. I thought it wouldn't hurt me and would be easy on my stomach.

Oh the Turkey Ham was great in my sandwich yesterday. Hubby did a wonderful job.
I've got to make some suger free carnberry sauce. I love crean cheese on one side and cranberry sauce on the other side of the bread and than turkey. Yum!
WEll have a great day. Think Thin. Artsky

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ARTSKY,
that sounds pretty darn good.

I had dessert this evening. Greek yogurt, flavoured with a scoop of vanilla protein powder, so it ends up like vanilla pudding, more or less. Then in the bowl, I put a tablespoon of unsweetened peanut butter on top.

Mmmmmmmmm, and only 10 grams of carbs in the dessert.

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4/29/16 8:38 A

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Good morning all I hope you have a good and healthy day.
I did not eat near as much as I should hae yesterday. I'll try harder today. and eat better.
HUbby smoked a turkey breat yesterday and 2 hams. now we have good lean mest in the house. I baged the Turkey in 3oz serving and frozr them. I was so good I could have eating all of it. We had the Ham for diner. Very good and tender. Served with 2 differant veggies. I know it's not what I was to eat but I was full. I did have a small scoop of Ice cream and 1 small oarmeal cookie. While playing cards.
Well off to the pool. Have a thin day and take care I care Artsky

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ARTSY,

Besides sugar, have you thought of eliminating or reducing other things to get better blood sugar?

I'm a canary in a coal mine with my blood sugar. Up where I don't like it this morning. I thought, what did I eat yesterday? I was pretty good all day. Then I remembered, around 10 pm I had some dark chocolate, not super super dark, but around 70% cocoa (less cocoa means more sugar). After that some parsnip chips, better than potato chips I guess, but the label, when read in the light of day this morning says about 25% net carbs.

*sigh*

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James
Eat more and keep up the exercise. Plus the big one eat slower.
With the meds my BS has been down closer to normal. I was getting count around 200 and 300
and that's no good. I think I told you I'm limited on the exercise with my 2 kinds of Arthritis.With Atthritis you also have to try to keep movingor you will lose the fight.

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ARTSKY,
What is your dietitians advice to get your blood sugar under better control?

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Good morning I'm hoping you all have a great thin day.
James First I'm just starting that helps and I'm trying to follow the Dietictons sugestions.
Frist is to chew you food at least 15 times than pick up your fork for a other bite.
she has way more food than I'm use to eating but I'm trying. I have for over 10 years gone to Arthrirs Arobic classes in the pool. Now I've been the leader for the last 7 yrs.
Well best get going my class awaits me.
Think Thin Artsy

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ARTSKY,
You posted that you were down 2.5 pounds for the week. What do you attribute that to?

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SHKAJO46,

I read your profile. A goal of loosing 40 pounds. Absolutely right. Two major factors drive up blood sugar. One is eating carbs. Excess carbs, more than about 40 grams in a day, need to be dealt with.

One way is to do extra exercise and burn them off. If not burned off your blood sugar goes up, insulin helps lower your blood sugar by assisting in storing the excess carbs into body fat. The problem is after a long time of doing this your system fatigues.

For some reason excess body fat also makes insulin less effective. So loosing body fat is a good step in increasing insulin sensitivity. Of course just plain eating fewer carbs also helps, both in lowering blood sugar, but in loosing weight too.

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wow love it !!!

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You liked that one.
Here is another. I might add no zoom or telephoto, I was that close. A shot with the window rolled down.



It's in a little national park in Canada called "Elk Island National Park". About a 50 minute drive from where I live.

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Amazing picture

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Subject: Steak

I was out for a road trip yesterday and snapped this picture.


I don't know how popular Buffalo is across North America, but I can get it in some grocery stores and restaraunts where I live. I can tell you that it tastes almost exactly like domestic beef. Leaner, but no particular "wild meat" undertones in flavour. I figure this "is" Paleo. I do sometimes eat buffalo steak.

Last year in the same national park I came face to face with one of them when I came out of the men's washroom, about 10 yards (or meters) away. Just a cow I said to myself as I made my way to the van after a 10 minute wait, and the guy just wouldn't move.

... So what is my dietary point? Most, if not all meat isn't going to impact your blood sugar, not one bit. Don't be afraid of fatty cuts of meat either. Do avoid sweet glazings or sauces.

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GMLANDIS,

Image that you are on a tight budget and have to choose your food very carefully. Now imagine that the budget is calories not money.

You want to make every calorie count and pack the stuff with it that you really need. The phrase "empty calories" means things loaded with calories but no nutrients, no minerals, no vitamins, nothing. Does such a bad food exist? Zero on everything except calories.

Well yes, here it is, zero everywhere except calories:
nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/
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92/2


Post more and I will too. After 12 years of diabetes meds I'm managing my blood sugar drug free. Not cured, but managed, and has been for four years now.

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Been MIA so stopping by to say hi

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You are so right James!

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As Mark Twain wrote:
"There are lies, damned lies and statistics."

I view many net carb claims as one of those. Atkins bars for example claim virtually zero net Atkins count.

Likewise on complex, or slowly digested carbs. Also bad for me. The only carbs that are truly indigestible and need not be counted are those carbs that are fibre. Subtract those out. Everything else hits my blood sugar.

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Sugar alcohols are supposed to be taken off the carb count, making some of Russel Stovers chocolates zero net carbs. Unfortunately too much sugar alcohol can raise the blood sugar. so it needs to be eaten in moderation if you are highly sensitive as I am.
By the way there is no alcohol in sugar alcohols.

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Hmmmm. Was it those Russell Stover "sugar free" candies? No sugar, but plenty of carbs?

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I lowered my protein, stopped drinking coffee or black tea, and stopped eating anything with sugar alcohols. After a month my blood sugars went down.

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If I'm not in weight loss mode, then I only count carbs too.

Susie, what is your evidence that your blood sugar is still high while eating low carb?

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on low carb diet, especially in my experience, when I increased my fat, particularly coconut oil, I lost a whole dress size in 1 month and two pounds. Right now I wear a ladies size small. I cannot increase my fats. I intake a fair amount of fat already. It's my lifestyle now to count only carbs, not calories.

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Susie,

You sure know a lot about nutrition. One question, if you want to up your calorie intake, to keep from loosing weight, why don't you up your dietary fat intake rather than your carb intake?

Dietary fat has no impact on blood sugar, very unlike carbs, and you said you have an issue with A1c, your blood sugar numbers.

More dietary fat?

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Your wife is correct. Amino acids from protein provide the raw materials for glucose synthesis in the liver.
I have increased my carbs only to not lose more weight. I eat raw sunflower seeds to keep my weight up without raising my blood sugar.

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Susie,
What is your experience with excess protein raising blood sugar.

I made a protein shake with 100 grams of protein in it, and swallowed it first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I measured my blood sugar before and for about 90 minutes after and saw no change.

My wife called me an idiot for eating so much protein at once, and said that the impact would come later, like 3 hours later when the protein got beyond the stomach.

Your thoughts?

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Susie,

For my body it is the net carb count that really impacts me. So forget about indigestible fibre, but all the other carbs of any type.

For myself it doesn't matter how quickly, or slowly they are digested. My body is just hobbling along in its carb management. If I eat sugar my blood sugar doesn't spike and drop, it spikes and stays high for hours, like about 4 to 6 hours. So my body essentially handles all digestible carbs over the long term. In other words I have to watch my net carb count across the entire day.

I don't care what kind of carb it is, simple, complex, slowly digested, whatever, it's all bad for me. At about 30 grams a day I'm OK.

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It's not the net carb count that affected your blood sugar, it's the sugar alcohol. Try eating Russell Stouffers sugar free candies. They have sugar alcohol will shoot your blood sugar up. Xylitol is a sugar alcohol that you can bake with, but will raise a diabetic's blood sugar.

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I used to eat Atkin's bars too. Don't believe the net "Atkin's" count, which would claim only 2 or so grams of carbs. Not true. The real number is on the nutrition label, and is more like 20.

I've done blood sugar experiments on myself. Atkins bars hit my blood sugar.

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I don't watch my Atc, my doctor does it. I was born with one hand and my doctor wants to do it.
since 2011I ate roughly 20 NET carbs eating a lot of meat & fish, lots of baking with coconut flour and almond meal. Ate a lot of cheese too. Also veggies and very low carb fruit like strawberries. I drank coffee with heavy whipping cream and coconut oil. Once in a while I'd eat an Atkins bar. After losing weight this way and eating so healthy, my blood sugar went up. Now I am trying anything to get my blood sugar down.

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OO0SUSIE0OO,

You said that you lost 90 pounds eating low carb (20 grams of carbs a day roughly).

I'm a firm low carber myself, so you are doing great in that regard. Did your A1c measure what you said after loosing that weight? Do you have blood sugar test strips and all that?

When do you check your own blood sugar? I so want to help, but don't know if I can suggest anything new.

James

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The nutritional information of breakfast with the syrup and strawberries:
Carbs (10 g)
Fat (20 g)
Protein (30 G)



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LILYSUE7,

Yah. emoticon

I do know how you feel. It sounds like you are beyond denial. However I can truly say that I enjoy, really enjoy food now, more than before I was diabetic. Yes there are things I choose not to eat because they would spike my blood sugar, but there are so many other things that I now eat, and didn't used to, so overall, pretty good.

Listen, this is a quiet group, but I check it everyday, and I'm always here to chat, encourage, help ....

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PINKLACEHAT (Cher),

As a type-2 diabetic I have chosen to manage my blood sugar by diet only. I know from fairly recent experience that 90 grams of carbs in a day puts my blood sugar out of range even the next morning, in the 10.5 mmol/L (190 mg/dL) range next morning. But eating low carb, around 30 to 50 grams of carbs in the entire day puts it at around 7 mmol/L (126 mg/dL) in the morning.

I'm going swimming tomorrow, and I would not be eating 15 grams of carbs before, 15 after, and another roughly 35 grams times three meals, for a total of about 145 in the day, that would be bad for me.

You have an interesting thought on insulin production going down as you age, but exercise counteracting that. That makes my swim even more important. I know that exercise also helps with insulin sensitivity, making your cells more sensitive to insulin. So all in all exercise is a good thing.

I'll have to look into increasing insulin, and increasing insulin sensitivity with exercise, thanks for the input on that.

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CROUCHINGFLEA,

If after you workout you feel fine on veggies, eggs and cheese, then I see no reason to add carbs to avoid low blood sugar. I mean if you don't feel dizzy, or unwell, then don't go on a blood sugar rollercoaster ride.

When I feel hungry (and I'm pretty sure that hunger is a sign of dropping blood sugar) I eat some low carb snack, like some cheese. For some reason fat and protein set me right and satisfy that feeling of hunger.

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James, I learned many things at Diabetic Class the most important for me was counting carbs and balancing fats and protein too.

I am 5'3 and have a small bone structure so I should only eat 30 carbs at meals. Most women are supposed to eat 30 to 45 carbs at meals. I weigh and measure all my food and read labels. I was eating too many fats and proteins so I was gaining weight and had higher blood sugars in the morning. My goal is to get back to an A1c of 6.2, not 6.5, I want to reach a weight of 145 then I will think about dropping another 5 pounds so I weigh 140 which is the weight my doctors want me at.

Men are supposed to eat 45 to 60 carbs at meals because of their heavier bones and muscle mass.

Insulin production decreases 6% every year when you get older. Exercise increases Insulin production.

If your B/S is below 80 mg/dl eat or drink 15 grams of fast acting carbs. If it is below 50, eat or drink 30 grams of fast acting carbs. If your blood does not raise you need to call your doctor or 911. They can give you a shot of glucagon or an IV.

Whenever you eat a carb at a meal or snack, you should eat a protein.

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I think I read here 15 carbs before exercise and 15 carbs after. Make sure you drink lots of water so you don't get dehydrated. I think it is 1 cup of water, every 20 minutes while exercising. There are articles here that address these things.


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Trying to figure out how many carbs I should eat after working out so my BS doesn't drop too low. I had to cancel my appointment with my diabetic counselor (again emoticon ) so I'm flying blind here. I've increased my time and intensity to where I'm working out anywhere from 80-120 minutes. Afterwards I have two eggs with veggies and a sprinkle of cheese. Wondering if I should throw some carbs in there to keep from dipping too low.

Hopefully I'll see my counselor next week. Depends on if she can get me in, and if my car is fixed by then!

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Thanks! It sounds so neat!

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The recipe is in another spark group. Here is the link to it:
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I made the recipe myself. I thought, well protein powder has almost no carbs and looks a lot like wheat flour, so maybe ...

Bread, cake, something like that. Here is a picture:


That whole loaf has about 6 grams of carbs. A single slice of regular bread already has about twice that whole loaf, so it is low carb indeed.

The loaf never gets as high as I'd like it. More baking powder only makes a bigger rise before the collapse.

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Way to go James! That bread sounds good, where did you get the recipe?

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Chocolate "bread" made from protein powder, with a little peanutbutter on top for breakfast today.
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Of course that bread has virtually no carbs, and indeed my blood sugar this morning was 7.1 mmol/l = 127.8 mg/dl with no medications, just smart (low carb) food choices.



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MASHARONA,

several years ago my doctor lined up a dietician for me to see. This didn't work out well for a couple of reasons.
1) I have poor memory, so I forgot to log what I ate, and forgot to take my blood sugar
2) the dietician did not specialize in diabetes
3) I did not understand how direct the connection was between carbs and blood sugar

These days, I avoid carbs like the plague, though I stupidly ate a few slices of pizza on Sunday, and my blood sugar was way above normal this morning.

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PINKLACEHAT,

What did you learn at your diabetes class?

For me, the biggest lesson was that something doesn't have to taste sweet in order to raise blood sugar. Typical examples of that are:
- potatoes
- rice
- pasta

I now read labels on everything I buy and really watch the carbs on that when shopping. If it doesn't have a label, like potatoes don't, then I research stuff before shopping.


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CROUCHINGFLEA,

Yup, "diet and exercise, but mostly diet". I have a personal 6% rule, if something's weight is 6% carbs or less then I eat it.

Oatmeal is 12%, a little high, I choose not to eat it. But here is a list of many of the things that I do eat, and their carb percentages:

Eggs (0.5%)
Cheese ( virtually all cheeses are pretty much zero carbs, as in the picture I recently posted)
Green peppers. (2.9%)
Meat (virtually all meat is 0%)
Romaine lettuce (1.2%)
Bacon (1%)
Zucchini (2.2%)

Bacon rinds for a crunchy snack (0%)

It is a very long list ...

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That looks yummy, James emoticon
Eggs are now my 'go to' for breakfast. I was eating oatmeal till I realized how much sugar was in it. Now I use that oatmeal as a treat for when I'm craving pastries (my weakness).

So you only do 30g of carbs per day? Now I'm curious to see what else you eat, as I would have a really hard time getting my carbs down that low! I guess that is what I should be striving for though, huh? If I'm going to control my diabetes with diet and exercise.

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Subject: my zero carb breakfast in detail

I ate breakfast of 30 grams of cheese on one egg for breakfast:







Yah, I know that the scale should say 74 grams, but freakishly close, maybe the egg was 2 grams short of 44?

Cheese and egg (180 calories)
Carbs (0 g)
Fat (14.5 g)
Protein (12g)

So still 30 g of carbs for the rest of my low carb day (which is everyday), and 12 of the 54 grams of my daily protein target already covered.

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If you are a diabetic you want to avoid carbs. Here is a list of some high carb things, with their percentage of carbs by weight:

- sugar (100%)
- dried fruit, like raisins (75%)
- jam (65%)
- breakfast cereals, like Cheerios (65%)
- candy bars, like Hershey's chocolate (55%)
- bread (48%)
- cooked pasta (30%)
- potatoes (30%)
- cooked rice (28%)

Anyway read the labels on things you buy.

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CROUCHINGFLEA (love that handle),

if you look on the wikipedia page on carbohydrates:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbohydrate

"Carbohydrates are a common source of energy in living organisms; however, no carbohydrate is an essential nutrient in humans." So, not being essential means you really don't need it to be healthy.

Your calories come from
Fats (9 calories per gram)
Carbs (4)
Protein (4)
Alcohol (7)

Neither fats nor alcoholic impact blood sugar. Carbs do, and excess protein (above about 60 grams a day) does too, to an extent. It is a balancing act. You need protein, you need "essential" fats. But you can live without alcohol or carbs. There are no "healthy" carbs, just like there was s no "healthy" alcohol. However if you avoid all carbs, you cut out plenty of healthy vitamins and minerals.

So, a balancing act. But don't look at it as a certain amount of carbs that you need per meal. Carbs easily put you on a hunger rollercoaster, fat doesn't do that. So while fat has more calories per gram, you can be satisfied for a lot longer on less.

What I've eaten so far today is a few slices of ham, some Gouda cheese, and some cream cheese squares. Lunch will include a salad later.

So far today my carb percentages are these:
Ham (1%)
Gouda cheese (2%)
Cream cheese (4%)

It is carbs that I avoid most of all, and after that calories.

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I was trying mostly vegetarian with no dairy, and no dressings for salads as they add so many calories. I was using olive oil, red wine vinegar or balsamic vinegar.

I am now using hummus for my carrots and such, it adds some nice flavor (I get the garlic stuff)

I'll try the no sugar added peanut butter. I found some nice whole grain crackers and 'crisp bread' to eat with my lunches (I usually have a small thing of tuna). I'm managing, with the crackers, to stay under 40 carbs per meal... is that about right per how much carbs you should have per meal?

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CROUCHINGFLEA,

Staying away from ranch dressing because of you "way of eating" before. What way was that?

As diabetic, sugar, at 100% carbs should be avoided. The higher the carb percentage, the more like sugar it is, and the less of it should be eaten.

Sugar (100%)
Honey (82%)
White bread (48%)
Peanut butter (20%)
Peanut butter, no sugar added (12%)
Broccoli (4%)
Radishes (2%)

The no sugar added peanutbutter is just on the edge f what I eat, and just in small quantity. Sorry for the statistics of what is most like pure sugar.

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Thank you for both of your replies! I was shying away from ranch dressing because my way of eating before, I tried to stay away from most dairy, but I guess the diabetic way of eating doesn't do that. I'm lactose intolerant, so I can't have much, but some is fine.

Is peanut butter an okay thing to eat? I usually make protein peanut butter balls, I use honey to bind it together, would that be too many carbs? I know they only have 70 calories each, but no idea how many carbs are in them.

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CROUCHINGFLEA,

I did post to you under the "Tell us about yourself" discussion, so have a read. I'm a big supporter of not eating high carb foods. The question is what makes something high carb?

My answer is that it's carb percentage (by weight) is a great way to measure that.

So your carrots are 7%.
As for your veggies, virtually all of them are great. I love zucchini, just cleaned, sliced, and I dip it in ranch dressing.
- zucchini (2%)
- ranch dressing (6%)
- Green peppers (3%)

But fatty foods are more satisfying:
Salami slices (2%)
Cheese (0%)


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what do you use for snacks? Do you eat at regular intervals or only at meal times? I'm curious because I don't know what to snack on. I keep a bowl of veggies nearby, but sometimes still get hungry feeling even after nibbling on carrots for half the morning.

I'll be going to the education classes soon, and I'm sure that will clear up some of my questions, but I have so many!

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SLIMCRUISER,

not your best day ever for food, but better than yesterday. Dare I ask? What did you eat?

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It is now slightly into 2016, but I wish everyone here good health this year.

Eat healthy and get your blood sugar under control. Even if this team is quiet, I'm always checking, and if you post something I'll be reading it pretty quickly as I check in almost daily.

I was once a new diabetic too.

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check your SparkMail (under the "MY TRACKERS" tab) I've sent you a note.

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On from Amsterdam into Germany now, and tomorrow France.

My vacation is not a dietary excuse to eat more carbs thinking that I'll go back to low carb starting in January. No. I am staying low carb. The Germans have fairly good meat and cheese, and quite frankly good vegetables. So I'm good.

The French are known to be some of the best cooks in the world, so I should find really good low carb things there too. Brie cheese is one of the treats I'll have, and I'll post what other good stuff tastes good there and is blood sugar friendly.

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I'm off on vacation today. Flying to Amsterdam. I will still be checking in on this group now and then.

Take care, stay away from sweets and high carb Christmas stuff. Be committed to healthy holidays.

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Thanks James for all the info.

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ALEGER6,

Here is a nutrition label with a few hoops to jump:


First of all the serving size is a volume of 250 mL. Let me presume this stuff is pretty much like water, so that makes it 250 grams also. The French is in the label because it is a Canadian product.

Calories come from fat (9 calories per gram), protein ( 4 per gram) and carbs (4 per gram). The 250 gram serving has 5 g. Fat, 25 g. carbs and 8 g. protein. There is a further breakdown into subcategories, the most important for diabetics being fibre, a subcategory of carbs, and fibre is not digestible. So of the 25 g. carbs have 6 of them as fibre, 3 as sugar and a mystery 16 others missing to add up to the 25.

The total calories should be 9*5 = 45 calories from fat, 4*19 = 76 from carbs and 4*8 = 32 from protein. 45+76+32 = 155 short of the promised 180.

Anyway, if you want lower blood sugar numbers then you want to reduce grams of digestible carbs.

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MINDBATTLE,

oh yes, as for loosing weight, insulin has the nickname of "the fat storage hormone" (just google that and have a look). So it is all inter-related, that is type-2 diabetes and being overweight.

I myself am an avid low-carb person. I manage my type-2 diabetes that way. I wish I weren't a diabetic, but at least I can manage it.

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MINDBATTLE,
there are "essential" amino acids (from protein), and "essential" fatty acids (from dietary fat). The word "essential" means you need to get them from food. But there are no "essential" carbohydrates, so don't worry about cutting carbs to low levels.

If you look on the wikipedia page on carbohydrates:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbohydrate

It says this:
"Carbohydrates are a common source of energy in living organisms; however, no carbohydrate is an essential nutrient in humans."

Secondly, the greatest cause of blood sugar going up when you are a type-2 diabetic (like I am) is excess carbs in your diet. High carb things tend to provide energy, but no "essential" building blocks.

Take heart, it isn't that bad, in fact I enjoy more foods now than I ever did before. Just not high carb things.

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Just joined your team. Just got diagnosed on Thursday. Started Metformin on Friday. Been a little down about the whole thing. Already have high blood pressure. Not that it is any surprise, I am over weight. I just hope that this will motivate me to lose the weight and eat right. Can't wait to get to know you all and learn how to eat like a diabetic because I now nothing about it. See a nutritionist at the end of the month. I guess I will wing it until then. The nurse who called me about the test results said nothing about testing my blood. So, I guess I don't have to do that. My husband has been a diabetic for about 3 years but eats whatever he wants. He was asked to go see a nutritionist, he wouldn't. He doesn't follow a diabetic diet.

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KTAADN_GIRL,

When you have a condition like type-2 diabetes, it really puts a change on things. The critical thing, in my mind, is to take charge, and make changes for the healthier. Good for you!

The thing about medication for type-2 diabetes is that it is a slight help, but one shouldn't think of that as the only thing you can do. Obviously any medical doctor will tell you to avoid sugar and sweets. Who would take their diabetes medication and wash it down with a regular sugar filled coke? That of course sounds crazy. But avoiding excess sugar is just the tip of the iceberg as far as what you can do.

The big revelation in my life happened when I finally realized (after 12 years or so) that things don't have to taste sweet in order to impact your blood sugar. Cases in point are wheat, rice and potatoes.

The 6% rule I came up with for myself is a bit tough (favour foods with 6% net carbs by weight or less), but it really pushes me to buy nutritionally healthy things. I have to admit that I do have some things that don't follow that, like some peanut butter, or other treats. But those are now in small quantities when I have them.

I really like Joel Fuhrman's equation:
HEALTH = NUTRITION/CALORIES

You want to get the most nutrition, at the least calorie cost. Then do some research to find the various nutrients that your body needs (daily grams of protein, fat, vitamin C, zinc, etc. etc.) and if a food rates poorly on Dr. Fuhrman's equation, then avoid it, eat a different one that provides the same nutrient, but with fewer calories.

If you google "nutritiondata macaroni" (or any food of interest) you will find a page on the nutritiondata website with detailed information on cooked macaroni. You will find that a serving of macaroni has 0 to at most a few percent your daily needs of any vitamin. But a small chunk of zucchini for example will easily get you in the 30% range for a few vitamins, and at far fewer calories than the macaroni.

A sort of unfair example. Noodles are terrible for blood sugar (as we all should know) and at the same time are pretty much devoid of anything but calories.

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James, I am new to the team. I joined yesterday. I've been on oral meds for a year, and Lantus for less than a month. My sugars have been driving me insane. And the more I delve into finding answers, the more frustrated and lost I got.

I haven't read everything on the threads yet, but I did read enough, so when I went shopping today, I had some info to work with. You had a comment here, somewhere, that if there are more than 6% carbs, you put it back. Thanks for that. I used that as a guideline. I felt like a smart shopper, not a lost one. When I tracked my meals today, I haven't hit my lower end of what I'm allowed. I wondered if I would bottom out again today, since I took that leap, and cut out more carbs, so I bought a regular Pepsi, just in case. I didn't need it. There are so many pointers that you give, that really helped me today, and for that, I thank you.

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MRSTEJANO,

The North American adult average is 330 grams of net carbs per day. Don't count fibre which is not digestible. So 100 grams of carrots have 9.8 grams of carbs, 2.8 of which are fibre and not counted so 9.8 - 2.8 is 7.0 net grams of carbs.

nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetab
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What a body tends to need per day is about 50 net grams of carbs. If it doesn't get 50, say it gets 30, then the other 20 can be made from protein (google gluconeogenesis).

I myself target 30 net grams a day and on a high day take in about 50. I eat enough protein to maintain muscle mass, about 60 grams of protein a day. From my blood sugar tests strips I know that my body can manage 30 to 50 grams a day, and I also know that I can't tolerate 100 grams a day (well below the North American average of 330). On the rare days that I've eaten around 100 my blood sugar is out of control for 24 hours or so.

Above 50 grams of carbs will be more than the minimum needed. Your body will have to figure out what to do with it, perhaps store it away into body fat, perhaps burn it off if you do enough exercise. On the other hand carbohydrates have an insulin reaction and insulin keeps blood sugar under control by helping store carbs away into body fat, and has the nickname of "the fat storage hormone". So if you want to loose body fat, you really don't want an insulin reaction, which locks up existing body fat, since you are in "storage mode". You are trying to keep your blood sugar under control.


www.diabetes-book.com/insulin-fat-co
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P.S. I see that MONADM1 on the group disputes these numbers on the "Sparking Low Carb" group. Basically needing more carbs, indirectly from gluconeogenesis.


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AUNTNET15, I'll gladly be your coach, the voice in your ear, to help you get motivated.

My wife is studying nutrition and interestingly was just looking into exercise and weight loss recently. Her conclusions today roughly fit my intuition.

A 20 minute walk is about all you need to lower blood sugar. Slower, but more continuous motion where you don't get out of breath will get you into more of a fat burning mode. But in any case loosing weight is more about keeping insulin low, so that body fat is not locked up by the presence of insulin. Insulin's job is to get carbs into cells for fuel, and store excess carbs away into body fat.

The easiest way to access and burn body fat is simple, don't eat excess carbs.

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BROOKLYNGIRL,
In theory whole wheat bread should be "healthier" than white bread. But there really isn't much difference. The net carb percentage (by weight)

White bread (48%)
Whole wheat (45%)

Compared to:
Scrambled eggs (2%)

If someone wants to loose weight, the number one rule is only eat if you are hungry, not for entertainment. I don't mean to be harsh, I mean to helpful.

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Thank u so much. I have been keeping him on track with what to eat but its very hard to stick with it myself. I have more free time then he does so I will eat some whole wheat bread mid-day because I'm hungry or board. I really need to get my butt to the gym. I have no reason not to. it is up the street from my house 5-10 min walking or 1 min driving.

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BROOKLYNGIRL24,

That is an excellent question. A simple web page like this one:
www.webmd.com/food-recipes/protein
Says 46 grams of protein for women, 56 for men. Keep in mind that is a minimum. This page says the WHO suggests 1/3 of a gram for each pound of ideal body weight:
www.nutritionexpress.com/article+ind
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This table gives you your ideal weight:
www.healthchecksystems.com/heightwei
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It says I should be 160, something I haven't weighed since high school, but still probably right, and 1/3 of that is 53, so 53 grams of protein, right in line with the earlier 56 for men. This is a minimum. So how high is safe? One doesn't want kidney or other problems. Probably up to about 120 grams is safe, and from natural foods it is starting to get hard to eat that much meat.

What about fat? The World Health Organization recommends 32 grams of fat per day for women, to a maximum of about 70 grams.
healthyeating.sfgate.com/recommended
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What about carbohydrates? This Wikipedia page:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbohydrate
says:
"Carbohydrates are a common source of energy in living organisms; however, no carbohydrate is an essential nutrient in humans."

For someone with diabetes, carbs raise blood sugar the most, and should be avoided, and from Wikipedia it looks like you need none for good health. You may need to eat some, or you won't get your vitamins, but the carbs themselves are not required.

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I went to a nutritionist a while back (when I was pre-diabetic) and then neglected to do anything that she said because I'm an idiot! Now that I have diabetes, I am trying to do the right thing and eat healthy and exercise (mostly walking). I think I am doing ok so far but I am not sure I am doing enough. Does anyone have any advice. I don't see my GP again until Monday and I am planning on taking a diabeties class and/or seeing another nutritionist soon but I want to make sure I am on the right track. So far I stopped drinking soda, using table sugar and snacking on "bad foods". I am tracking calories and carbs but I do not know if I am consuming too many carbs. According to sparkpeople I am not but I don't know if that is accurate. Some days I don't feel well and I don't know if that is because my glucose levels are high or low (I don't track them yet). Any help you can give me is appreciated because I'm paranoid and obsessive at this point. I just want to make sure I am doing what needs to be done.

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Can anyone tell me how my starch, protein and veggies to eat. I am having issues finding the answer online. My hubby will be going to a nutritionist but in the mean time since I am preparing food I need to know.

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REGAND1,
since you know you have a problem with blood sugar, are you going to cut down on sugar? Sugar is pure carbohydrates (100%) and is clearly the hardest thing for your body to handle.

How low down until your body can handle it? Would you add say some psyllium husks to that sugar to get it down to 80% and then feel it is OK to eat it? Suppose you added a few scoops and got that sugar down to 80% and then put that on your cereal. Would that be much better?

What if that breakfast cereal was essentially 80% sugar itself? So read your labels, and have a look at my previous post with a nutrition label of unsweetened shredded wheat at 68%.

Now as for cholesterol, there may be a connection with carbohydrates. Here is an internet page from the author of "Wheat Belly", Dr. W. Davis
www.wheatbellyblog.com/2013/11/a-gra
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Wheat is 80% carbohydrates, which from your blood sugar point of view pretty close to the 100% of sugar.

As for high blood pressure, there is a connection with excess body fat. I'm sure your doctor told you to loose weight. Never an easy thing to do, but it should give you motivation to change something.

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MSSEWGOOD,
In order to cut carbs seriously down you need to read labels and make choices that lower intake. My personal cutoff (with only a few exceptions) is 6%. If something is more than 6% net carbs by weight (not counting fibre) then I don't eat it.

The breakfast cereal "Shredded Wheat" has a nutrition label like this:

You see that 49 grams of this has 40 grams of carbs, 6 of which are fibre (not digestible) so 40-6 or 34 grams of digestible carbs. So roughly 68 grams of net carbs per 100, or 68%, well over 6%. In any case sugar is 100%, and 68% is really not all that much less than sugar.

Fruits that are less than 6% are strawberries, blackberries and raspberries.

If something doesn't have a label, like strawberries don't, then google "nutritiondata strawberries". The nutritiondata website has great information.

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AUNTNET15, TRUECOLORS,
welcome, nobody wants to be welcomed to this group really, but welcome.

I presume you've been diagnosed with type-2 diabetes. This is a slow decline in ones ability to manage blood sugar levels. At one point the doctors draw a line in the sand and say this side of the line is type-2 diabetes, and the other side isn't. But it is a gradual change.

First of all, it is mostly carbohydrates that impact blood sugar level. So the easy way to keep blood sugar down is to change what you eat. When I shop I rate foods by their percentage of carbohydrates (by weight). So first of all, sugar is 100% carbs, so no sugar. I like my coffee a little sweet, so I use stevia.

After that, read your labels. I used to eat Shreddies for breakfast, with no sugar. But if you read the nutrition label for Shreddies you will find it is 80% carbs, so not as high as pure sugar, but close.

The biggest thing I learned after many years is that it isn't just sugar that is the issue for diabetics, it is all carbs. You can of course take your blood sugar, eat your meal, take your blood sugar one hour later, and see what impacts you, but you will find it is carbs. You can buy yourself a digital scale, weigh your portions, and track what you eat and drink, and this is a great idea.

Lastly, I've found that in seriously cutting my carbs I don't need diabetes medication, and for whatever reason my diabetes has not gotten worse, although it had been getting progressively worse before I started "watching" what I ate.

Keep posting. When I get a reply I feel like I'm helping someone, otherwise I'm just typing into the vacuum of space.

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"Rising Blood Sugar Concentrations Further Damage Your Ability to Produce Insulin

Glucose Toxicity

Whatever the reason for the failing first phase insulin release there's an ugly feedback mechanism that kicks in when blood sugar levels rise because of that failing first phase insulin release: High levels of circulating glucose themselves are toxic to beta-cells, a phenomenon called "glucose toxicity". So as blood sugars rise these high blood sugar concentrations further damage and or kill more beta-cells, making first and second phase insulin release even less able to control blood sugar concentrations.
Increased Insulin Resistance

If your beta-cells are still able to secrete enough insulin to provide a second phase insulin release, your body may be able to bring the blood sugar back down to a normal level by 3 hours and may then go back to secreting the small amounts of basal insulin which maintain a normal or near-normal blood sugar level while you are between meals or asleep. But when first phase insulin release is weak or missing your blood sugar may easily rise over the 200 mg/dl (11 mmol/L) level currently defined as "diabetes."
At that point, two bad things happen. When the concentration of glucose in your blood reaches 200 mg/dl (11 mmol/L) your cells become insulin resistant even if they weren't insulin resistant before, so it takes a lot more insulin to lower your blood sugar from that point on.

And, even worse, the lack of a robust insulin response to the rising glucose may erroneously be interpreted by your liver as a sign that blood sugar is too low and that it is time to dump more glucose into the bloodstream. So in addition to the glucose coming in from your recent meal you also have to contend with additional glucose dumped by your poor old confused liver."

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Yeah James, I need to read it about once a week. I'm hard-headed.

Well I lost all sense of right vs. wrong and had a piece of chocolate merengue pie for lunch and it was scrumptious.

However I will still end up less than 1200 calories for the day and less than 90 carbs.

Not a great carb day but shouldn't be a weight gain day.

On another note, I checked my BS one after after eating it....180. Two hours after eating it...177.

Damage occurs to blood vessels at 150 or so and above, I think that's what I read.

This should be a no no for me.

Update: my BS was 178 after three hours, and only down to 129 after 4 hours.

Sadly, I must put chocolate meringue pie on my NEVER EAT list.

I say "sadly" because of a long love affair with homemade chocolate meringue pies, going back to my childhood.

One alternative, perhaps, would be to eat only half the piece of pie.


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JRWELL,
I read that, great article. I'm going to read it at least one more time. I see myself in one of the described scenarios. I learned stuff.

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This is a must read for understanding the blood sugar failure process...

www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046621.ph
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MCDEE,
I'm all for carb counting. If you look at a slightly older post on 4/28 to DWICK44, you will see a nutrition profile for 100 grams of cashews.

I keep such 100 gram profiles for plenty of things that I eat. I weigh the quantity of what I ate and use the net carb percentage to calculate the grams of carbs.

Today for dessert I had 60 grams of whipping cream, whipped, with a few squirts of Cherry Mio flavouring blended in, and also 30 grams of real cherries sliced up and added in. Whipping cream is 2.8% carbs, and dark cherries are 13.9% net carbs, so....
(60 * 0.028) + (30 * 0.139) = 2.5, so a mere 2.5 grams of carbs in my dessert.

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DANIELLE,
I just had a look at food exchanges. My impression is that it is essentially carb counting, just at a coarser level. You have a certain number of each item in a group, and each item in a group has about the same number of grams of carbs.
www.diabeteslibrary.org/View.aspx?ur
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When I count, I write down how much of each thing I eat. I track its weight, then calculate calories and grams of carbs, fat and protein. The game I play is to see how low I can get the carbs. I don't avoid fat or protein. I think this has the same goal as food exchange, which is to lower carb intake, it is just more for people who like numbers And calculations.

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BREEZY,

I just had an exchange with someone on a low carb group who is trying to loose weight. They are only drinking a few cans of coke a week.

In my experience when you get down to 30 to 50 grams of net carbs a day, the lack of insulin response (almost no carbs to react to) unlocks existing body fat, and loosing weight is almost effortless. The effort is in finding foods that have so few carbs, but it can be done. A whistle dog for example, a wiener sliced down the middle filled with melted cheddar cheese and topped with mustard, is very low carb.

Anyway, one can of coke has 33 grams of sugar and would double my daily carb intake. I would have no weight loss that day, and not the next one either. So 3 cans a week, on top of my usual low carb fare, and no weight loss. It is just not worth working hard on weight loss and sabotaging all efforts with just 3 cans of coke.

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Thanks for the info James.

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BREEZYBOCCA60,
There are two things about loosing weight, the first is to eat fewer calories than you burn. Well, duh, nothing new there.

The second thing is that carbs have an insulin response that pretty much locks up body fat. If body fat is accessible, then you can loose weight and be less hungry while doing so.

The third thing, for diabetics is that existing body fat somehow messes with insulin sensitivity and blood sugar.

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I was so sorry to see the effects of cashews which I can live without and the good news about avocados which I canīt. My problem is that I have to eat a whole one, but I am now getting used to the idea that this wonīt do at all. I noticed that since I have been eating more of them, I have gained weight - the excuse - they are so good for you. But I am pleased that I donīt have to go without.

Thank you.

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