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MSALICAT,
I seems that I've heard of the book. I don't know if you can reverse diabetes, I wouldn't have thought so. Perhaps getting the book and giving it a try may be agood idea for myself.

I'm already so much further than a I thought. I thought one had to take medication as part of functioning when you are a type 2 diabetic. I was wrong there, and I'm managing with diet alone and I wouldn't have thought that was possible either.

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Thanks James!
So I had ordered and finally receive the book, "The End of Diabetes" - Eat to live plan to Prevent and Reverse Diabetes by Joel Fuhrman, MD
Anyone familiar with it?
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You should do some research on which kind of fats are bad and which are good for you.

It looks like cheese isn't so good. Peanut butter is OK.

Have a look here for example:
www.helpguide.org/life/healthy_diet_
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Generally fats that tend to be solid at room temperature, like cheese, are not so good for you. But those that are more liquid are OK, like olive oil. With peanut butter you need to read the label and find ones that have no sugar added, and are low in saturated fats.
caloriecount.about.com/calories-skip
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The above link shows some information about skippy peanut butter. It shows 3.5 of 32 grams, around 10% of it is saturated fat. I have no idea on how that compares with other peanut butters.

Here is a link on fats:
lowfatcooking.about.com/od/lowfatbas
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James ~
the only problem with fat, (cheese etc...) is that my husband is going through this too and he has heart issues so extra fat is not at great idea... thoughts?
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MSALICAT,
well I'm only exercising for 20 to 30 minutes, so I'm not calculating anything. I'm doing karate patterns, punching kicking, skipping rope at the gym in the YMCA. In my old carb days I didn't figure out how much to eat before exercising either.

The best you can do is eat something, but not so much that your stomach is so full that it is uncomfortable to exercise, then go exercise, and really listen to your body. Are you weak, tired, hungry, dizzy, ... whatever it is pay attention and to push through it. If exercise is too much ease off, and maybe next time you can go a little farther.

Just common sense stuff. From a calorie point of view it takes a few weeks for your body to shift to getting most of its energy from protein and fat rather than carbs. Hopefully that is protein you eat not your own muscles.

My impression is that carbs are "summer time" food, when potatoes and other things grow, and fat and protein are winter time, hunting time, with no crops. Summer time is a fattening up time for the winter. High carb foods cause insulin to be produced, and carbs stored away in body fat for later. In today's global marketplace of food the winter never comes to use those fat reserves. Just continual storage. That is my idea of how I got fat, and how I got diabetes from the continual onslaught of carbs. I still love chocolate bars, but The urge is much less now.

About 3 days into my low carb journey, when carbs dropped from about 150 grams a day to around 30, my body was in shock and not well tooled to burn protein or fat (preferably my own body fat). I just went for a regular walk on day 3 and felt dizzy and unwell. I had walked for about 15 minutes and I realized that I needed to walk 15 more to get back home, and I was already taking it easy, just a light walk! I wasn't sure if I'd make it home without something bad happening. I thought this is bad, maybe low carb is unhealthy. It took a few weeks, but each walk got easier, and I'm now back to more strenuous exercise.

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Thanks James! How do you know how MUCH to eat before you exercise?


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I worked out again this morning. Before exercising I ate some cheddar cheese on low carb almond flour "crackers".

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MSALICAT,
ah yes.... When in carb centric mode and you don't get enough carbs you get weak and hungry before you can chemically access your "reserves". A few weeks of low carb eating and your body has changed sufficiently to be able to exercise in ketosis.

I eat a snack of cheese before I work out, I don't switch between carbs and fat/protein as my fuel, I stick with fat and protein. If I weren't diabetic I wouldn't have the same aversion to carbs.

I did a google search on running in ketosis, here is a typical hit:
www.paleorunner.org/2013/11/high-int
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So, how do you figure how many more carbs you need when you work out?


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TRXIEBELLE,
Welcome. You said you are a mess. Do you mean that being diagnosed with diabetes has disturbed you?

I denied / ignored my diagnosis for years. The doctors were wrong. I was under stress ...

There is hope, plenty of it. I was tied to a pill routine for nine years. For the last two years not a single pill for diabetes. I just took my morning blood sugar, 6.3 mmol/L ( 113 mg/dL)

Last nights snack was bacon rinds with peanut butter, not potato chips. So I've changed what I eat. Talk to me and I'll tell you how I manage it.

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I will have to look into pork rinds. Never ever really thought about those to eat. Always loved chips! I had my A1C checked and it went from 6.7 in April to 6.9. My sugar has been up because of a lot of stress in my life the last 3 months. Now that most of it has gone away, I can hopefully get it back down. My dr upped my one med by 5 mg.

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I'm surprised that I didn't put this combination together for a snack before, pork rinds and unsweetened peanut butter.

Pork rinds - 6 grams per 100 of net carbs
Peanut butter - 12 grams per 100 of net carbs

Who knows in what ratio it is after I put a dab of peanut butter on a pork rind, maybe 8% ? A little beyond my 6% rule, ... but so tasty.

Let's face it, potato chips are about 50% net carbs, so 8% is pretty darn low.

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Here is the banana bread recipe, just use a mashed banana rather than the peanut butter.
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I made my 3 month follow-up appointment for July 15th. I am sure it isn't going to be good news, since I have been so stressed the last 3 months and has made it difficult to make myself a priority, to eat right, and exercise. I need to get back to where I was earlier this year. I got to get the sugar under contol!

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YUMMY BREAKFAST BAKE
4 eggs
Horizon organic half and half (that brand is thick) added to eggs to make 2 cups
2 cups broccoli or other veggies
1/4 onion + green onions
2 cloves of garlic , salt and pepper to taste
1 Tbsp olive oil
1 oz cream cheese for dot topping
Cook onion,broccoli and garlic until soft and add to mixed eggs and cream. Add cream cheese on top in small dots. Bake 375/ 30min


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that sound good - share your recipe for banana bread and I will share recipe for yummy breakfast bake. B:)

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I made a loaf of banana bread yesterday. 2 grams of carbs per slice. I'll have two slices of that for breakfast with peanut butter. The peanut butter raises the cabs to 5 grams each.

So 10 grams for/with breakfast. It would be less if it were my other bread without the banana in it.

I fight most carbs, but allow a few in.

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Good luck to you , if it's working for you , but I try to lower my cholesterol so I watch my food fat. It's not easy because I like cheese, meats ( sausage) etc.... I am OK without soft drinks which I don't buy for last at least 15 years , but love meat !!!!!!!!!!

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Mr. Six Percent (me),

I try to buy things that are 6% carbs or less.

Went to buy coke zero today. I came out of the store with more than that. But here is how I did on carb percentages (by weight).
- Coke Zero (0% carbs)
- Bottled water (0%)
- Cranberry/raspberry Mio (0%)
- Danish blue cheese (0.5%)
- Eggs (1%)
- Cheddar cheese (1%)
- Greek Yogurt (3%)
- Blackberries (5%)
- Whipping cream (6%)
- Dried sausage sticks (7%)
- Peanut butter (12%)
- Atkins bars (34%)

Quite good except for the last two, my weaknesses. I don't believe the "Net Atkins Count (TM)", but if I did a 55 gram bar would gave just 2 grams, making the last on my list go from 34% to 4%.

Anyone have opinions on "Net Atkins Count (TM)", or on how Atkins bars impact their carb load, weight loss, blood sugar?

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I too was on metformin (or similar) for 9 years. I've got ulcerative colitis too, not related. But both issues cause poor vitamin b absorption.

I'm convinced that I have permanent cognitive problems from that low vitamin b. I am on long term disability. The impact is measurable, but the cause in uncertain.

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I really recommend to read dr.Mark Hyman book "Blood sugar solutions"and you will learn a lot as I did. Most important is to detoxify your body so it will recognize real food . I have Metmorfin in my pantry and it scares me each time I look at and still I don't use it. I do RAW FIT protein shake for breakfast with chia seeds loaded with fiber and other great for you things - plus diet & supplements recommended in the book and in 4 days from around 140 FBS I dropped to 99 and now it averages 106-110 but I added squash and more fish or chicken . I would do it instead of doubling Metformin. Talk to your doctor but it is amazing how fast you can change you numbers with proper diet. Good luck to you and to me.....

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My visit with the doctor went as expecting. My diet and exercise helped my cholesterol go down by 40 points. YAHHHH! However like I knew my sugar (metformen) has to be doubled. After fasting is was still 129 first thing in the morning. So I am hoping doubling my pills will help with my energy level. I eat 6 times a day small meals to keep my sugar steady so hopefully it will be all good when I go back in 6 months for another follow up.

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MOMTOCONNOR2003,

As a diabetic I presume you are eating smaller amounts, but more often, to try to even out blood sugar spikes.

I avoid my blood sugar spikes by eating low carb. I used to have energy drops that could only be fixed by carbs. But now, without the excessive carbs my own body fat is more "available" and my energy across the day is more even. Send me a note and I'll invite you to a low carb group.

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I have a follow up with my doctor on Thursday. I am sure they are going to up my dose. I have been really tired lately. I am eating small meals throughout the day but still have little energy. I will be happy when they get it regulated so that I can have more energy to up my exercises! The other night I fell asleep at 7:30. I normally do not go to bed until 11 p.m. I think it may be why it is so hard to lose weight.

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Yep, I notice a big difference in my number when I exercise.

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Help to ANY diabetic: After eating carbs a walk would be necessary to lower glucose & burn some of those carbs....

Final weight goal of 140 pounds & maintain my fitness with excellent blood sugar management.


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So I am on metaformin (SP) however my bottle says take it with my evening meal. Problem is I never remember in the evening and so far this week I forgot 4 days. So I called the doctor and she said I can take it in the morning. Thank goodness now I can take it with my multivitamin, vitamin c, allergy pill and other supplements in the morning. Now I won't forget! YAHHHH!


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Is it normal to feel tired and sleepy when you first start medication for your BS? I started the Janumet and it has brought my BS down drastically but I have not felt like doing a lot.

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TRCOUNTRYGIRL,

Good. If what you were eating was impacting your blood sugar, then change what you eat. The first step is awareness.

I look up things I eat or drink, find the percentage of carbs by weight. Say peas, peas are 10% digestible (net) carbs. I weigh what I eat and calculate the carbs.

After awareness the next step is to make choices, or alternate choices to avoid the carbs. Say you like green beans as much as you like peas, but green beans are 3.7% carbs. Well, eat green beans.

I don't generally eat smaller portions, but I eat lower carb things.

James

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James, I am eating more veggies, less carbs, smaller portions, less sugar.....

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TRCOUNTRYGIRL,

What has changed in what you eat? Can you define healthier? For myself I can define healthier, I can even measure or count it. It is eating fewer grams of carbs each day.

I eat about 30 grams of carbs a day. With so few you have to make them "count". So my carbs tend to come from cauliflower and tomatoes, stuff like that.

I eat a fair bit of fat and protein, I'm not skimping there.

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Good morning! Day two of eating healthier! Have a great day!

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Thank you James. I hope I can control mine with diet and exercise.

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TRCOUNTRYGIRL,

I remember being very thirsty too. Your body is trying to dilute its high sugar levels by consuming more water. When that hit me 9 years ago I was actually drinking coke from the vending machine near my desk to try to alleviate the thirst. Duh!

My suggestion is to avoid eating or drinking carbs. First you can cut any soft drinks with sugar, sprite, coke and similar. Also no sugar added to drinks, like tea. If you are already doing that the next step is to stop high carb foods like rice, pasta, potatoes.

After that you can focus on medium carbs, like carrots. As hard as it is to imagine I've dropped mine from hundreds of grams of carbs a day 9 years ago, to just 30. It takes some cooking, but I'm managing my diabetes without medication.

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Hi! I am new to this team but not to SP. I am thinking I am now a new diabetic. I have not seen my doctor yet but have an appointment next week. I have been extremely thirsty lately and one of my co workers has a meter so we checked a RBS...it was 268. So this morning we did a FBS and it was 257. I have not been taking care of myself in about a yeaar because I was taking care of my mom who passed away in December. I have Type 2 on both sides of my family. Any suggestions or comments will be helpful. Thanks!

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I had a piece of boston market chicken and it had over 1000 in cholesterol last week. I had a piece of liver and it was over 100. So now I am trying to balance to two. I need to get a book on cholesterol so I know what proteins to stay away from.

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MOMTOCONNOR2003,

If you eat protein your. Cholesterol goes up? Really?

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I just started taking metaformin (sp) yesterday. I also have a severely low Vitamin D count so I had to take a prescription to bring that up. My cholesterol is almost 300 so they do not want to give me meds for that until I can regulate the sugar and get my Vitamin D within normal limits. I had gestational diabeties when pregnant with my son, both Grandmothers, Great Grandmothers and two aunts are diabetic. I am just trying to slow it down at this point. If i eat more protein my cholesterol goes up, if I eat carbs my sugar goes up. I feel like I am juggeling. ha ha

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MOMTOCONNOR2003,

great the you are pre-diabetic and not diabetic. Don't take this lightly. Diabetes seems to be irreversible. Probably manageable without drugs if you eat low carb, which is what a I do. But it would be much easier to not be diabetic.

So I strongly encourage you to cut down on high carb things now while your body chemistry is still close to normal. Less carbohydrate stress the better. I took medication as my solution for 9 years and it has had permanent effects on my brain.

I used to write software, but near the end of that I couldn't remember what I was working on. Lots of notes in my hand writing, which I didn't remember making, which I had to re-read before making progress. I'm better now, but on long term disability.

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Doctor told me today I am prediabetic. That was better than I was thinking because I thought I skipped over pre a while back. ha ha! My first morning reading has only been below 100 once in 7 weeks. So I will start meds tomorrow to help and maybe it will not be so hard to lose weight.

Maybe I can reverse it this year with better diet and exercise.

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Tv commercials for food provide terrible food choices and reinforce poor motivation for eating!

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I find hardees commericial horrible to watch. Who would want that much stuff on a burger.

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DRKPKING,

Yes, my desires have totally changed since going low carb. I love salads. I used to eat them, and not much of them because I knew they were good for me, but not because I actually liked them.

There are many commercials on TV for food. I can honestly say that I find commercials for high carb things, like pizza repulsive. The thought of eating that is unpleasant. Very hard to recondite with the fact that I used to love pizza.

Tastes change.

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DRKPKING is going to have another fantastic salad made by her fabulous significant other! We love having all different types of salads emoticon
Change it up and explore! emoticon emoticon emoticon

We used to CRAVE carbs and sweets.
Now we CRAVE salads emoticon

1 tbs feta or goat cheese
butter lettuce
mixed greens
carrots
celery
grape tomatoes
1/4 of apple diced
sliced onion

1 tbsp pine nuts
substitute 1 of the following
1 tbsp unsalted pumpkin seeds
a few reduced sugar cranraisins
a few raisins
a few slices of mandarin oranges
few strawberries
slices hard boiled egg
a few unsalted cashews
a few unsalted peanuts
a few unsalted soybeans
bean sprouts
alfalfa sprouts
a few unsalted pecans (not for me! allergic!)
specialty tuna fish (that's another recipe post to come soon)

What is your pleasure???

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DRKPKING,

I'm not newly diagnosed with diabetes, but I think I still have an opinion.

I find myself cooking more and eating fewer processed things. It isn't that I'm avoiding processed things, but I'm avoiding carbs.

Lots of highly processed things are made from wheat flour, and avoiding that cuts out a whole range of processed foods, like cookies.

My personal rule, to keep my type 2 diabetes under control is not to buy something that is more than 5% net carbs by weight. This cuts out most processed foods, a number of vegetables, but still leaves plenty of good ones.

I don't see eye to eye with you on the fruit. If the fruit comes in at around 5% net carbs I'll buy it. Not too many fruits make my cutoff, but blackberries, raspberries and strawberries make it. I'm also also not craving salt or sugar.

James

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Geek.....I agree with you totally@

Nut.....in one post you shared that your A1c is 6.7, then below shared that your doctor says you are prediabetic. I must express concern....6.7 is not prediabetic....it is diabetic. Maybe the facts got mixed up a bit.

On a negative note:

I was baaaaad, so baaaaad today! It started with a chocolate chip cookie, and ended with a food fest at the Krystal!


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What do other newly diagnosed diabetics and moderators think??

I think processed foods are among the major culprits which have contributed to my high diabetes blood test scores (of course including carbohydrates!)
Frozen meals and many boxed foods have an abundance of unwholesome ingredients

I have cut out a LOT of processed foods-- eating mostly fresh fruits and veggies
very little meat or poultry and my body is getting detoxed.. I crave NO salt and sugar

The "preservatives" in processed foods often are related to MSG and/or have very high salt content

Why don't more Americans realize the negative attributes of processed foods?
(I say Americans, because all nations ARE NOT!)
Why are so many of us dependent on them?

I've seen articles that say the MSG functions like a drug/addicting us..sounds like a conspiracy theory to me...

What are your thoughts?

Thanks much, I am interested in reading others' thoughts on this topic!!



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Left the holiday behind yesterday....stayed in the low range of my allowed calories, and stayed under 50 carb grams. Enjoyed a big bowl of turnip greens for dinner!

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HEALTHNUT,

Well carbs are addictive. Part physical, part mental. But you wouldn't believe how strongly physical the addiction is (or maybe you would).

So it isn't just poor willpower. It is like telling a heroin addict that they have poor willpower. Everyone accepts that a heroin addict has a true physical addiction.

But take my word for it, the longer you stay away from carbs the less and less pull they have. In my first months of low carb eating there were days when I ate an oh Henry bar or two, really sabotaging my other efforts. On a day like that I ate an EXTRA 70 grams of net carbs, and indeed that put my weight loss on hold for two days. Two events like that per week and I didn't loose a thing despite all my other good behaviour.

I'm rooting for you.

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well until i been on this roller coaster of all the horrible things that can happen with this - condition --
i am one for banning all pizza places fried food places, chip companies, ice cream shops
any company connected with fatty fried ice fat foods -- they should all be out of business

thats my personal feeling - who can eat that ? and feel good i mean really

i rarely ate ice cream -- i did like chips i liked the salt - there true confesssion

now that i know -- better -- i avoid it -- someone gave me a container of hard candy and i had some after 8 mints and candy canes on my desk - they still sit there- one day i will just throw it out -- knowing i better not--- touch them ever --
and chocolate --i can live without ---
lately i got a craving for pickles -and i allow myself - 1 60g pickle - yes its high in salt -but itw within my sodium alotment for the day .. and i truely enjoy it -- like i never have --

i eat 2 cups of mixed greens like there is no tomorrow - cows eat grass --so - i never have eaten so much greens in my life -- as i have in past 2 weeks -- -
i feel lighter --
i spoke to a health nurse last nite on a consultation call - for the first time since jan 6 -- someone actually made me feel okay -- she said i should be proud of myself i am taking proactive steps - to not becoming diabetic -- she said i was pre- ----
i am not keen on doing the blood sugar test - pricking my finger - -if i can avoid that - i will
i spend 80 percent of my time at home planning my meals - reading up on this -- sucks up my time - i not done any writing - no painting ... i don't even watch tv - its on - but i dont watch it -- too busy reading --- its exhausting --
she also told me wait till end of march to get blood work done - and if i continue planning my meals - and getting my exercise - today i making a real effort to walk to the far end of the office floor - and get my cup of herbal tea and fill my water bottle this way i am getting exercise -- even though our mini kitchen is like 5 feet from our desk -- too accessible -- if you ask me --
when i first found out i was so panicked - i still get little moments EEEK i could get these things ewww --- scarey stuff


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HEALTHNUT2009,

Yes I could look at it as I can't eat:

- ice cream
- chocolate bars
- potato chips
- apple pie
...

The list goes on and on. But after 20 months of low carb eating I now say, I choose not to eat:

- ice cream
- chocolate bars
- potato chips
- apple pie
...

I have lost a lot of body fat. I weigh about what I did when I was 17 years old and in high school, but I'm in my 50's. I don't think the things that I CHOOSE NOT TO EAT are healthy for anyone, not limited to diabetics.

I have a secret suspicion that some of the recent findings on eating less and living longer:
www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view
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rticleNo/37039/title/Eat-Less-and-LiR>ve-Longer-/

Are actually not so much due to low calories, but low carbs.

James


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james never ?
o my gosh -- i got a bunch of mini carrots what do i do . throw them out ?

what about radishes ? i suppose i not supoose to eat those --

wish someone would tell me -- what foods i can never eat again

this is so depressing -- :(

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I'm taking a holiday from my plan today....and enjoyed a good old Southern lunch...meatloaf, blackeyed peas, mashed potatoes...and homemade chocolate pie.

One day at a time!

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HEALTHNUT,
Carrots have virtually no fat or protein. So almost all of calories come from carbs, so I don't eat them.



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3oz is 4baby carrots 8g carb 2fiber 35 calories sugar5 1 protein

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Cooking a big pot of turnip greens! So healthy and full of vitamins.


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Nut.....once you get your BS and weight under control, you will be able to have carrots and peas in small servings.

I love green peas, and a normal serving does not hurt my BS.

Now, if I ate the whole can.....

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well i notice peas have sugar == i didnt know

baby carrots -- i love those -- and i am not throwing them out --

i tossed out so much food this week - it hurts :(

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HEALTHNUT,

I agree with JRWELL58. I have tried various diets in my life and been miserable on all of them. Eventually I went back to what I used to eat, and the weight came back.

About 20 months ago I found a low carb diet at my chiropractors office. I gave it a try and the pounds started dropping off, about 2 to 3 every week. No exercise necessary for weight loss. For fitness and health yes, but not to burn more calories to speed up the weight loss.

After 6 months of that diet I transitioned to low carb from the grocery store. Here are the sorts of things I eat:

Cheese
Crackers made from almond flour
Whipped cream sweetened with stevia
Pancakes made with whey protein powder rather than wheat flour
Any kind of meat
Non starchy vegetables (no carrots, no peas, no potatoes)
No pasta or rice

Tough for the first few days as ones body tends to be very carbohydrate addicted. It gets easier every day and is pretty good after 2 weeks. As a bonus, since your body chemistry switches to fat oriented mode rather than carbs, your own body fat is much more accessible, and your hunger swings are much less than before.

Want to try?

James

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O MY -- that is the thing i heard since i started on this --
i
the dietician gave me a book and o my -- it has all the complications what this condition/disease whateve anyone wants to call it --
i read nearly the whole book -- if i can stave this off - i will -- dagnabit --
the way the dr talked to me saying i had about a year ... if i dont change things ..
my bp tonite is 130/80 -- which is where it was before i started that metformin (drug did not agree with my body at all ) ugg ---

i was eating way too much - for instance rice cakes they are like eating air - but NOW i read the label and 1 is a serving not 12 lol ---
no bread ever again -- i rarely ate pototoes but i did enjoy french fries now and then ..
and ketchup - but there is low sodium i see out in the grocery store --
i figure i dont need it - why even bother having it in the home .... out of sight - out of mind
i couldnt even my whole cup of blueberries for breakfast this am
with my 3/4 cup bran buds - 1 cup skim milk - and 1/4 cup egg whites with 1 oz of avocado

love my brussel sproutes 2/3 c with lemon juice and ground black pepper -
i love kale, . spinach, brocolli - and green beans(not so keen on )


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It takes a while to get the hunger under control because your body is used to you spiking your blood sugar and giving you that good satisfied feeling.

Give your new plan a chance....

Your A1c is not terrible....I bet you can get it under control in just a matter of a few weeks if you stick to it....

I'll bet if you lose some weight and stick to your plan, in three months you will be doing so great and your doctor will be so pleased!!!

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Jr AiC was at 6.7 dec 16 2013

but i didnt ge this "news' till jan 6

so maybe its gone up ?

i am sorry - i am a pill - :(

i am so hungry today i could eat my arm off ...
that rice cake i had when i got home - - i ate it sloooooooooowly ---- so i could savor it

all i do is think of food now --- its insane -- i am making too much of this i guess

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HEALTHNUT,

But you can eat protein and fat, just not carbs.

For example cheese is OK. More later...

James

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Nut....why are you depressed? Sounds like you are doing great. Stick to 1200 calories per day, plus a little, minus a little.....don't eat anything white or processed....no potatoes, no rice, no bread, no cookies, no cake, no candy.....eat healthy lean meats, vegetables, nuts, a little fruit....and you will be fine! If you do that, you will naturally limit your carbs.

If you are not able to stick to 50 grams of carbs a day, try 100. When you get that down pat, try 80. See where it takes you.

Your dietician did not lie to you....however, from experience, we say if you are trying to control your blood sugar....don't eat 150 grams. Get your Bs under control, and then you maybe can have 150....wait and see.

The amount of carb grams your body can process without spiking your BS depends on your body....how many beta cells you have destroyed along the way....the dietician is just speaking in general.

I am fairly early diabetic....have not yet blown all my beta cells....so I am able to eat 100 grams of carbs and maintain normal blood sugar. We don't know what stage you are at. We don't know what your A1c is.

Just give it a try and see how it goes.

Jan

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sighs i give up
dietician said 150 carbs a day -- 3o g of sugar is fine

o my gosh --- she lied to me??

what does a day look like with 30 g of carbs only ??

can somoene give me a clue ? pleasee -- i am desparate --
help please ---
so frustrated - :( so drepressed --

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so hungry when i got home tonite
i had one rice cake- tomaoe & basil
i want to have tilipia fish 3oz for supper
1 cup of brocoli
1/2 c of cauliflower
2oz of avocado
2 cups of salad greens
no dressing - cept tsp of olive oil and red wine vinegar

thats it -- nothing to eat after -- ..

i dont know a person gets only 50 carbs in a day -- i have a challenge with this - i dunno if i am going to make it ...living like this -- all i been doing since last tues when i found out is looking what i can eat next -- and will it fill me up
i never dreamed i would be only eating 3 oz of protein at a meal
i will never go out for a meal again - there is nothing i can have - cept salad - and even that is like too big --
why dont places have special food for people like us ?
dr said no sugar - how is that possible even mini carrots have 2 g of sugar ..

every day feels like a bad dream :(

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So excited and proud! Stayed on the low end of calorie range and under 80 grms of carbs....and not hungry!


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so that is too much ? 150 g carbs ...
so everything has carbs....???
i can send you my meal plan for the past couple days ..

i need to loose weight - at 275.bs uggg..

i am eating 2 cups of salad a day --
and 1 cup brocoloil
3oz of salmon or chicken

no dressings ever balsmaci vinegar and 1 tsp olive oil

2 furits a day -- either apple or 1 cup of blueberries

i found large rice cakes 1 is satifiying (i convince my brain it is)

1 yougurt 60 ml - sillhoutte - 4 g sugar - 7 carb 4 fiber

y on earth would the dietician say 150 g of carbs was okay ?

god this so frustrating - i am eating too much ? i try to get 1200 cal a day
but i am lucky to get 1000 calories -- and scarmbling not to have too much fat
or sugar - or sodium --
why is this so hard :(

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HEALTHNUT,

yup. You are not the same as before and neither am I. I didn't used to be diabetic, ate all sorts of stuff.

Now pick yourself up and get hold of the new reality. 150 grams of carbs are as good as 150 grams of sugar. All carbs turn into blood sugar, it doesn't matter if they taste sweet or not, are exactly sugar or not. Carbs in mashed potatoes impact your blood sugar the same as if they were sugar.

So don't think of it as 150 carbs, 30 of which are sugar, so 150-30 or 120 grams of carbs. No. Think of it as 150 grams of sugar, because from a blood sugar point of view it's all the same.

Do you want to loose weight? You will have a very hard time doing that at 150 grams of carbs a day. 1/2 of that will probably do it. Look at what you are eating. Find a way.

I'm at 30 grams of carbs a day, and I'm happy with what I'm eating. You can research your carbs here:

m.nutritionix.com

Enter the food of interest, generic or brand name.

James

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My fitness pal is what I use
tobrecord food but it doesn't break down how much fiber I am eatimg
total carbs for say 150 -30 g sugar =120 then I dont know the quantity of ffiber I ate so carbs are likely under 100 g a day

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Dietitic counsellor said this is a metabolic condition it feels like a slap in my face I didnt eat properly or exercise enuf
in my 20s I would go cycling for an hour or more after work
and I was size 7 those days are long gone :(
I gotta talk to someone this feels so I am so down
I wish I could get out if this blue mood
at work it feels I am fine nothing wrong with me
my cousin keep saying to me your pityy party is over get on with it
I dont see it that way


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Dietitic counsellor said this is a metabolic condition it feels like a slap in my face I didnt eat properly or exercise enuf
in my 20s I would go cycling for an hour or more after work
and I was size 7 those days are long gone :(
I gotta talk to someone this feels so I am so down
I wish I could get out if this blue mood
at work it feels I am fine nothing wrong with me
my cousin keep saying to me your pityy party is over get on with it
I dont see it that way

At 6.7 I am suppose to be doimg that monitor ing?


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HEALTHNUT,

I'm managing my type 2 diabetes with diet. Everybody is different. Some have no blood sugar problems, some people are pre-diabetic, some are diabetic. The amount of carbs one can eat in a day and not have blood sugar problems depends on the person.

I recently ate 75 grams of carbs in a day, and had a fasting blood sugar the next morning of 9.3 mmol/L ( 167 mg/dL), I know my what my maximum is, and it is less than 75, more like 40.

So the 30 grams of sugar you had was already my daily quota, never mind anything else.

James

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I was hungry this evening and let myself go over my allotted calories by 200.....though I stayed under 100 grams of carbs.....so nothing bad carb wise. Nothing white.

It is all okay....because this is one day at a time for me.


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What fo u wat for 50 carbs
I ate too much 150 carbs
Was without minusing thenfiver and dugar
sugar for day is 30 g
is that too much?
Dietician dudnt say
still cinfused
dr said 5o g carbs no sugar
Sone veggies have sugar
help !!!
I had sore tummy all day

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What fo u wat for 50 carbs
I ate too much 150 carbs
Was without minusing thenfiver and dugar
sugar for day is 30 g
is that too much?
Dietician dudnt say
still cinfused
dr said 5o g carbs no sugar
Sone veggies have sugar
help !!!
I had sore tummy all day

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Would like to keep my carb grams at about 50, but have not quite gotten there yet. Today I had 90. The black bean soup is gone now, so I should do better. Actually, I don't think my black bean soup had quite as many carbs as the tracker black bean soup, so I think I really have had less carbs than my tracker says. But I am working on it. And no more black bean soup for a while!

I've been "back on track" since 1/1/14, and my FBS went from 119 on that day, to 97 this morning....so I am very happy with lowering carb intake. No bread, no sweets, no potatoes, no pasta, no processed food.


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Finished the day at the low end of calories allowed for a change....yeah!

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mmmm....black bean soup for lunch. used all my allowed calories today, but it was worth it.

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JRWELL58,

(I'm inviting you to a low carb group, check your SPARKMAIL, I think that is where it goes).

Yes. 9 years of metformin, or similar. I took my pills on a schedule, didn't change my eating habits much, because I had the pills. I was at the maximum dose of metformin plus another drug. Insulin injections were coming soon.

I started eating low carb to loose weight. Due to my memory impairment, probably from metformin itself, I forgot to take it one day. Forgetting my metformin was not that infrequent an occurrence for me. But this time it was while I was on a low carb diet. I tested my blood sugar, expecting it to be bad (no meds that day), and was very surprised at how low it was.

That is now 20 months since I stopped diabetes meds, I count it like a prisoner out of jail. So I've traded taking pills all the time with eating low carb. I'm in better health, much less body fat, and I don't have to take pills with me everywhere. I do have to work a little harder on what to eat, but after a few months one finds alternate comfort foods. I just had a muffin for breakfast.


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Very bread-like.

As far as exercise goes, I used to think that to loose weight exercise would burn more calories and accelerate the weight loss. Not by much though. Most of your calories in the day are burned just by staying alive. An hour of exercise only burns an extra few hundred. However, exercise is great for your health in general. So if one is overweight enough that even walking is a problem, that doesn't mean you are doomed. Nope. Low carb is the key.

James

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James I see you've lost a lot of weight....were you able to come off the metformin through diet and exercise?

Breakfast: adkins strawberry shake, 1 oz brazil nuts, Little Cutie tangerine.

Went over on breakfast fat allowance....but the nut fat is healthy fat.

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JRWELL58,
I hope I'm not repeating myself, but I've got poor memory from 9 years of metformin.

Anyway, if you are well under 100 grams of carbs a day, then that is the perfect prescription for weight loss. When you eat carbs her blood sugar goes up. To keep your blood sugar from going too high your body produces insulin to store the excess away in body fat. When storage mode it makes no sense to burn body fat at the same time. So to lose weight you need to eat low-carb so that you have low insulin so that your own body fat is chemically accessible.

You should be finding that after a few weeks of eating this way that you don't get hungry like you used to. Your blood sugar is more even and when you used to get hungry for more carbs your body now accesses its own reserves instead.

Well done.

James

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Hi James...I am simply following the nutrition allowances in my sparkpeople plan....with the exception of carb grams.....don't eat nearly what the plan recommends....staying under 100....most days well under 100. Today I even had early dinner at Outback Steakhouse, and stayed on low end of my recommended calories for the day.

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So a person who weighs 125 pounds needs 45 to 57 g of protein in a day;

i am 270 lbs -- so i would need i think double that

i sure hope dietician can help me with meal planning
today i had edamame beans 1cup and 2 rye crips - ovaltine 2 tbsp - no it was not very good

yesterdy i logged not even 1000 calories, but i suspect i will be on a low calorie meal plan
sorta nervous seeing dieitician mainly cuz i hope she does not say i have to check glucose levels; prick my finger eeewww i dont know where i could do that at work all our offices are glass walls there is no privacy i dont know if it was wise or not but i thought i should tell the hr that i got this condition - i ordered a medic alert watch yesterday yes i am terrified of all the things that can go astray i wish i had been smarter and lost weight my mothers brother had this condition and she never really talked about it and my father had silent stroke at age 90 and he had high bp and high choloseteral so already i was doomed;;..... my mothers famly the women her mothers sisters they were all apple shapped short legs carried all weight in tummy boobs and hips so i was already pre disposed i was not heavy until my mid 30s 1994 i seen pic of myself on a personal video -- i was getting up there on a 5 foot 2 person 150lbs is alot now picture 100 more lbs not pretty -- o can wallow in coulda shoulda till the cows come home but no point in booohooing about it = is what my sister said yeah we are not a supportive group ; suck it up buttercup is the famous saying
i wake up and am surprised i woke up; everyone say 6.7 is not high; well its high enough for dr to make me go on meds and all the other wonderful things that come with that..
its a living nightmare; it really is; i dont know how i am going to do this

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JRWELL58,
what did you change in your eating patterns, to which you can attribute your weight loss to?

Fewer calories? Low carb? Low fat? Avoiding high sugar things, like desserts?

Just curious about what you are doing differently.

James

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HEALTHNUT,
yes too much protein can cause problems, but how much is too much?

The MINIMUM for health is the recommendation by the ADA,

grist.org/article/protein-how-much-d
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This is 0.8 grams a day per kilogram of ideal body weight. They is 0.36 grams per pound. My ideal weight is 160 pounds, so 58 grams.

If I'm an athlete, then 1.2 to 1.7 grams per kilogram of ideal body weight, or 0.55 grams per pound of body weight to 0.77 grams per pound. For me then, if I were an athlete, 87 to 123 grams a day.

In this review
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PM
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In the following review, high protein (HP) diets will be defined as a daily consumption of greater than or equal to 1.5 g/kg/day, which is almost twice the current Recommended Dietary Allowance but with
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And they, like others say things like this:
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While the effect of hyperfiltration on renal function in those individuals with pre-existing renal disease is well documented [52], the application of these observations to healthy persons with normal renal function is not appropriate.
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So, for me a maximum of about 120 grams a day should be safe, that is 480 calories. I need more than that. So the rest must come from fat and carbohydrates. I have a gall bladder, so I favour dietary fat.

You must know how you feel when you eat fat. Does the food digest well, or feel bad. Perhaps rather than one big fat load in a meal you can have smaller but more snacks, where the bile keeps trickling into your stomach. You are still producing bile, it just isn't getting stored up for a single big consumption.

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Ack what do I eat???

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A person need carbs for energy
too muchnprotein csn csuse kidney failure
that isvwhat I read
I see dietician on tues
I think I am in trouble with food its evil
I cant have sugar fats carbs
Veg are fiber? But.they also have carbs??
I dont know how i am going to do this
its a huge nightmare for me its getting worse the more I learn

Constantly thinking what do eat now what time is it
if.dietician has me do glucose monitoring
thats going to send me to more worrying



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Ack what do I eat???

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HEALTHNUT2009,

You shouldn't have carbs because you are diabetic. Carbs of any type, except fibre, turn to blood sugar.

You would have a difficult time with dietary fat because the gall bladder is where bile, produced by the liver, is stored, and then used in the digestion of fats. With no gall bladder you have a problem digesting fats.

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Jrw u r my inspiration

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5 pounds gone....how exciting! Mustn't get cocky, though!

Enjoyed a lovely humus wrap for lunch....so delicious.


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i cant have carbs cuz i have no gallbladder ?

dr knows i dont have a gallbaldder .....

i feel like i am on a collision course with the grim reaper ?? ?

he told me to follow a GI diet - thats all he said -- -
and have me on presciprtion for diabeties cholosteral and high blood pressure piills

i had to callic him -- to have him refer me to a dieticean

didnt tell me of any resourcres where to go - to get information - i been muddling my way thourgh internet -- sites - scaring the heck out of myself --

i almost think he has writen me off - i really get that feeling - why wouldnt he say well here is a list of places where u can learn more about this condition --

i said well lots of people have gone off diabetis meds -- he said thats only 10 percent - and not many of them keep the weight off --
he said you have a fatty liver --and you have 50 percent of your pancrease -- you will NEVEr get that back --
terrified - i dont know what to do - seriously i dont

this am i woke up yawning - .. ?? weird - now i am paranoid of every thing i feel --
this is not good ;( i had 1 serving of fat free yogurt - 6 grams and 1 tbsp of ovaltine 6 grams -- snack be the apple with 1 tbsp of p butter --

i am panicking :( i just want to go back to bed and think this is a bad dream :(

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If you can't have fat because of your gall bladder, and you can't have carbs because of diabetes, the only thing left is protein.

That can be in the range of about 60 grams minimum a day, to a safe maximum of about 150. Athletes and body builders might go in the 200 to 300 gram range, but normal people should be around 80. The way to get your protein without the other things is protein powder.

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I cant have bacin or ham
Thise are high in salt and fat
got high bp snd cholesterol
no gallbladder

Really stuck what to eat
Cheese too much fat in I

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2 egg whites and kale for breakfast or 1 serving up of non fat flgreek yigurt &1/4 berries
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Subject: low carb snacks

Cheese stick wrapped with a slice of ham. 0.2 grams of carbs from the slice of ham, about zero from the cheese stick.

A muffin with 3 grams of carbs, melted butter on top. recipe is here:
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Subject: Low carb breakfast

I won't list everything out in one note, but I'll start with breakfast.

- bacon, 0 grams of carbs per slice
- eggs, 1 gram of carbs per egg
- cheese, 1 gram of carbs per 100 grams of cheese
- green peppers, 3 grams of net carbs per 100 grams of peppers
- coffee or tea with whipping cream, 0 grams of carbs

So I can have bacon, and an omelette with cheese and sliced green peppers, or scramble eggs, or sunny side up ... and all that is well under 5 grams of carbs.

Next time lunch ideas.
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