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1/12/10 8:33 P

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Thank You NIGHTSCAPE for your info.
I do not live in a big city. It is a 6 hour drive to get to Buffalo NY. I live in the country,and homeless people happen in any setting.
I think that if your are hungry and can get something off the Dollar menu why not?
Help the less fortunate. I also like your comment that homeless people have alot more worries than the calorie content. They are people too.
It would be nice if EBT was set up like WIC,but it isn't.
I feel the person who started this thread does not have compassion for the less fortunate. One of those kinda people who would kicks a person when they are down. Not the kind of person I would want for a friend. I am only stating my opinion.
I do not mean to provoke a rash of hateful replies.

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1/12/10 7:49 P

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D1AN4M- Taco Bell does not determine if you are homeless or not, the DPSS department does. Homeless individuals have a special EBT card that lets places like Taco Bell know you are homeless. If anyone else tries to use their EBT card at Taco Bell it will be denied. I get soooo many complaints for clients asking why their EBT card does not work at the Taco Bell around the corner because all their sign says is "Now Accepting EBT Cards."

I see where this post was heading by the person who created it. They were simply pointing out how eating healthy can be challenging for those living in poverty and that by taco bell taking EBT cards would not help the matter. But like most of you keep forgetting and I can promise you this is true, only homeless individuals can utilize this taco bell EBT deal... and homeless individuals have a LOT more to worry about then fatty foods. =)

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1/12/10 7:47 P

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I didn't have a chance to edit the post before you read it.

Please read it now.



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I'm sorry if you find my words offensive or harsh but once again your post is full of excuses as to why people should not try...perhaps if we stopped pointing out the impossibilities, and began seeing all the possibilities, and actually took an interest in educating people on how to achieve more would. All a person needs is one bag of soil and one potato and they can grow their own potatoes in the window box, on the balcony, stoop, roof, what have you...why not work with what you have instead of dwelling on what you don't. It only takes one person to plant a Community Garden and more will follow...There are a million things that could be done, but as long as there are people willing to overlook (excuse) the laziness and fill the outstretched hand with free (taxpayers) money why would anyone bother?

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2UNHEALTHY said, "Good God KARENK63...I lived in the f*cking 'ghetto' and I still walked my arse an hour to get food!! Stop making excuses..."

You might want to dial that vitriol down a notch.

YOU are very dedicated to your health and finances, and more people SHOULD be, but the more hurdles thrown up the less likely real humans will take extra measures.

Lots of people are lazy, and HOW lazy they are sometimes rises in proportion to the difficulty of getting something done.

And some people just have several small children and very little energy to organize how to either find a sitter for them while busing/walking long distances, or how to manage taking them all along.

Survivors will almost always find a way, no matter what. But for one reason or another (sometimes reasons in whose shoes we have not walked), many people are not that driven.

I'm wondering if you overlooked the part of my original post, where I said that I was NOT in favor of letting people buy fast food with food stamps. The rest simply mentioned that poverty often tends to create nutritional challenges to begin with. Adding the easy option of buying fast food instead of real food only makes a bad situation work, IMO.

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Good God KARENK63...I lived in the f*cking 'ghetto' and I still walked my arse an hour to get food!! Stop making excuses...if there is no store in the neighborhood you walk your arse to one...or to the bus stop that will take you to one...you don't sit at home and try to rationalize why you HAD to go the 1/2 block to the liquor store and eat candy bars for lunch. Walking is free and easy and if the people laid off the Taco Bell they'd be able to do it.

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2UNHEALTHY said, "and for the 'inner city' I'm fairly certain that if there is no major chain near that there is a 'farmers/fresh' market weekly."

?!? You've never heard of ghettos? Or of neighborhoods that border on being ghettos?

No farmers market folks are going to set up THERE.

I'm not saying that it's _impossible_ to each fresh and stretch your dollars, but for some people the situation is much more difficult, bordering on the impossible.

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How does Taco Bell determine if you are homeless. Is there a special card for homeless people?

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KARENK63...I had no car, and I lived in a town that had NO SIDEWALKS...yeah how fun do you think that was? But guess what...I schlepped my arse to and from the grocery store that offered triple coupons on the days that they were on and to any other one that had the deals and they weren't close to home (about and hour walk) but if you ask nicely and honor your word they will let you roll a cart home as long as you bring it back...I used the same one for months...and for the 'inner city' I'm fairly certain that if there is no major chain near that there is a 'farmers/fresh' market weekly. Yeah you may have to get up early on a Saturday but if you go towards the end of the day they will have cheaper prices as they don't want to have to carry it all back home. There are plenty of ways to get fresh food it's just a matter of convenience for most...it's way easier to go to Taco Bell then make tacos at home.

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1/12/10 1:49 A

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SALSAGAL72- If you really want I'll take a pic of the taco bell by me that has a big sign saying "Now accepting EBT cards", though it does not mention you need to be homeless. I am a social worker for DPSS in Los Angeles, and I have many client who have used their EBT cards at Taco Bell.

Most of you seem to be forgetting what I said earlier, though I'm sure you didn't read all the comments. TACO BELL ONLY ACCEPTS FOOD STAMPS IF YOU ARE HOMELESS. I really do not see how people can hate on homeless individuals getting a hot meal.

There are a lot of people who misuse food stamps, I deal with them daily, however this post should have nothing to do with that seeing as how only homeless people can use EBT cards at Taco Bell or Subway. I stand by my comment that it is a great idea, I only wish I could take pictures of how happy my homeless clients are with their 89 cent burritos.

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1/11/10 5:45 P

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As a previous poster asked where the heck is the link to prove this?
I Googled also and find nothing.
I like to know if I am replying to something that is credible.

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1/11/10 1:59 P

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2UNHEALTHY said, "I get tired of hearing you all say fresh food is soooo much more expensive...not a chance....but it is more labour intensive and therefore most Americans are way too lazy to get good prices."

Just had to respond to this part.

In many poor inner-city areas in the U.S., there are NO SUPERMARKETS. People are stuck with corner markets (who can charge whatever the heck they want), and it's hard to get to places with supermarkets if you don't happen to have a car.

In a corner market, there's only so much shelf space. So what is the owner going to stock there? Fresh produce and meats, that spoil quickly? Or stuff in cans and jars with preservatives to last longer, and expensive convenience items?

It's all about profit for the market owner (which is understandable), but it really limits the choices of the people in the area. IF they can get fresh food, it IS darned expensive. :(

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You all should move to Canada if you REALLY want to complain about food prices....I get tired of hearing you all say fresh food is soooo much more expensive...not a chance....but it is more labour intensive and therefore most Americans are way too lazy to get good prices.

When I lived in NC I LOVED LOVED LOVED it...triple coupon days...and I went to all my neighbors and asked for their coupon fliers from the trash...Oh how many times I got free groceries...here in Canada...the only damn coupons I can get are for shampoo and how much shampoo do I need?

Also in NC I asked the grocery workers when the meat went on sale and what time they marked down the produce and I was there...maybe twice a day because the meat went on in the AM and the produce in the PM but I ALWAYS got a deal.

And I never looked down on food stamp users but I certainly spoke up when they tried to buy cigarettes and beer with them...I do the same here when I see the welfare recipients going in to buy a loaf of bread to cash their cheque then go to the smoke shop and liquor store to spend the rest...or the video poker machines...more than once I've asked someone playing those poker machines how much of the winnings they were going to give back to the government.

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Hmmm, I'm more of the mind that if you're living off the taxpayer's dime, you don't get luxuries and we DO get a say in where that money is spent.

Not to mention that one way or another, living off of Fast Food is terrible for your health.

The bulk of the people who need food stamps are simply poor and not homeless, and they are already at an obesity/health disadvantage by having fresh foods be more expensive and less readily available than the bad stuff. :(

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1/10/10 4:21 P

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When I was working,I bought what I wanted to eat.
When i was injured,I continued to want to eat the same way I had before.
But I did not have the money to do so. The food at the Food pantries..well some of it was okay,but alot was what I considered slop. Margarine that did not want to melt in the hot pan. Frozen Hamburg that was mostly grease.The Really cheap hot dogs. Powdered milk. A large bag of Puffed Rice Cereal.
Dried Pinto beans,Granny Bunt's Bakery Mix(kinda like Bisquick) and let's not forget the Rice!
The stuff I got from the food pantry was not what I would throw in the cart at the grocery store.
And this is what I lived on for over a year. Yuck!
When i was 5 months into my injury,I got $25 a week in Food Stamps. I bought real meat! A roast,a turkey,a Ham to add to the gourmet mix I was sustaining myself on.
And people would make remarks in the store sometimes,must be nice to be on Food Stamps and buy a steak or a roast! Oh, Look she has some seafood in her cart!
People have to be smart with their Food Stamp Dollar.
If they want to buy Mountain Dew and Chips,that is how they eat. I think we can all maybe name a person who seem to live on pizza,soda and junk food.
I was buying a large package of meat that would get me thru a part of the week.
I also got thru the feeling that others thought I was scum for using Food Stamps that I had worked for 20 years before my injury,and I had payed in and now I was collecting.
I do think it would be a good idea as D1AN4M stated to have the food stamps set up like WIC.
Until then,I would consider what was taken out of my paycheck to be considered as charity.You can not control what someone else chooses to put in their mouth. What you may consider a treat is what someone else considers a way to eat all the time.
And to those who are jealous of those with Food Stamps,thank God you are not in that Way of life,as someday you yourself may be in the position to use them and see what it is Really all about.



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1/10/10 3:13 P

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I don't know, maybe it should be my business how my money is being spent. I have always thought that food stamps should be more like wic where only certain foods are acceptable and should have to meet certain nutritional guidelines. Mountain Dew and Cheetos should not be available on the governments(my)dime. As for everyone deserves a treat sometimes, I know a lot of hard working people who don't get government assistance that can't afford "treats". I love how first the government will use my money to buy people chips pop and now Taco Bell and then take my money to try to fight and pay for the health care costs of obesity. And yeah people are jealous,it is great to stand in line at the grocery store and watch people use government(your)money to buy cuts of meat and junk food that you can't afford because of course the government took your money to give to them.

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1/10/10 2:45 P

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10 years ago I had an injury and went thru the Workman's Comp Crap. I had to resort to food pantries and Food Stamps.
At that time they were the coupon booklet that was the printed cash stamps.Everyone knew how I was paying for my food. I got some degrading looks and some people would make remarks about what I had in my cart.
I was not proud to be on Food stamps,they where necessary for me. I got the impression that people were jealous that I was getting free food.
If I could have bought something off the dollar menu at McDonalds or Taco Bell I would have.
What difference does it make to anyone else what I eat? I got the impression that when I was on Food stamps,some people thought I should be eating hot dogs and crack-head soup.No good meat for me!!
What does the original poster think is an appropriate list of foods to buy?
I'd not appreciate having someone like you behind me at the store,trying to make me feel worse than I already do. None of your business,as you do not know why I am in this position,and you could care less.
Just think I am scum cause I have Food Stamps.
Thank God today they have the plastic cards,so the food stamp users are harder for critical eyes to detect.
I was on Food stamps for over a year.It is a wonderful and necessary program for thousands.

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1/9/10 3:36 A

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SALSAGAL72- You can buy frozen burritos from a grocery store, but not already prepared ones. Do you expect homeless people to eat frozen burritos without a microwave? All I am saying is that it is nice that homeless individuals can have warm and ready to eat food.

And yes, I have been homeless and relied heavily on food stamps, though this was before Subway and Taco Bell had this policy. I know I would have appreciated some 89 cent burritos over the food shelters were giving out =)

DPSS informed me that McDonalds might also start implementing the same EBT for homeless individual system, but that has yet to be confirmed.

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I do not see what the big deal is. You can buy burritos in the grocery store with food coupons.
To the OP.... What do you list as acceptable to by with food coupons?
Have you ever been in the position that you had no other resource than food stamps?Or NO food stamps?
To eat off the dollar menu is a way of life for many people.Maybe only once a day.
How many time do you eat a day,and how much do spend a week to fill your gut?



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1/8/10 10:17 A

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We don't have food stamps in Ontario where I live but it's a good idea if homeless people can get a meal on their own from Taco Bell and whoever else accepts it.



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I do think it is nice - they should have options too. I think we all just worry about their skill to use them wisely. But hey, everyone deserves a treat too. I didn't know about Subway - I think they have better food than Taco Bell anyday! At least a sandwich (hot or cold) can go a longer way that that 79-89-99 stuff at Taco Bell. But JMHO. I like both lol.
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1/7/10 9:54 P

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I can confirm that this is true to some degree in CA. You can use your EBT card at Taco Bell IF YOU ARE HOMELESS. This is supposedly so homeless individuals can have a hot meal, though like someone pointed out they still can't buy rotisserie chicken at a grocery store with their EBT card.

And just for a little side info, Taco Bell is not the first chain to do this. Subway has been doing the same deal for some time now, where homeless people can use their EBT cards.

And for you people hating on this idea, well I think it is nice that even homeless individuals can now eat out if they so desire. I am a social worker in Los Angeles and this trend actually allows them to have hot, already prepared meals. But to each his own :)


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If this is true thats sooooo crazy LoL!!!

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There's no shame in being on public assistance - it's a good help when you really need it. But it's too easy to see people who don't look like they need it using it. At least it seems to be the case where I am. I wish I could qualify for the help! But I am thankful we manage without it too. I don't begrudge anyone who need help. lol - I know, I am a bit of a Pollyanna but I get my bitter moments too. I wish I could get some help sometimes but I don't seem to qualify.
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it is not true. I admit I am on food stamps & when I got on em I was working full time & n school full time. I am actively looking 4 an lpn job n my area.


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I'm sure from the right person you can.


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I wonder if you can buy crack with food stamps?

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man, i should move to the States and go on social assistance! It sounds awesome!

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You can’t buy prepared food not even rotisserie chicken with food stamps in Colorado either. What state is Taco Bell able to accept food stamps in? Is there any proof of this claim?

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Disgusting. So wrong.

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I can't bellieve they would allow food stamps to be used at Taco Bell. I'm sure there is short term reasonfor a decision like that, but c'mon. The whole message, is wrong. Doesn't anyone look at the BIG picture anymore?

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Just curious but where did you find this out? I googled it but came up with nothing to confirm it.
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I don't think Taco Bell should accept food stamps, but who am I? I work with low income families needing government assistance, but they come in with their cell phones, fake nails, attitudes, etc. Some really need it but others take advantage and that's sad.

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LOL Go Figure! The disadvantaged, less fortunate, Most of them drive nice cars, and live in nice government housing! Plus, Now Iv learned that they now get free cell phones with 70 minutes and the option to get more minutes! Most are lazziassses that dont want to work! I do feel sorry for those that do need it. I do have a heart! But some of these government programs are a bunch of crap!

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I think that is so wrong.

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Oh now c'mon!!! I know they to eat out too, but how how does that really teach them to eat properly? I seriously disagree with this...why can't they issue a separate, smaller amount food card to be used only for fast food restaurants so that the disadvantaged don't have to feel deprived?
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How is that???? In Oregon you can't buy prepared hot food with the oregon Trail card(food stamps)

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