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2/6/13 9:35 A

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Thanks for sharing that it's less tangy! I may get up courage and try some!

I use a supplement now for probiotics but I like getting nutrients from FOOD when possible :)

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2/6/13 1:21 A

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I tried the coconut yogurt today, it's actually a lot less tangy than most plain dairy yogurt. The brand I got is SoDelicious but it is a little higher in carbs than diary yogurt, although probably some of the sugar has been eaten by the fermenting bacteria. I had it with blueberries on top and macadamia nuts tonight, very tasty.

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2/5/13 1:39 P

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Good plan. Everybody I know likes coconut yoghurt (but me -- I don't like tanginess -- although a yoghurt smoothie has it, it's offset by all the fruit!).

I think it's probably a good choice--just that's not the flavor I crave! Maybe if I mixed it with enough fruit...

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2/5/13 1:31 P

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I have been tempted again to have dairy today. Maybe I need to do a better job grocery shopping for lots of veggies and more variety to keep me entertained. I think I'll bite the bullet and stack up on pre-washed mixed lettuces and sprouts so I always have something I can eat quickly when I get hungry. I'll also shop for more varieties of herbal tea today and try at least one container of the coconut yogurt.
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2/5/13 12:38 P

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Gosh, hon, I don't know. I'm not a doctor.

I can tell you that I'm Celiac and that does not mean allergic. I genetically CANNOT digest gluten.

I also cannot digest tons of other things. I've read where (in veg) it's cellulose structures. Of course, they're all cellulose, so perhaps it's certain variations of structure. I can eat cabbage (cruciferous) so it's not 'cruciferous' that's the problem.

I was over a year with doctor-supervised elimination testing (google on webmd if unfamiliar - I figured you are since you're into this stuff). Basically, I'm a guinea pig and am until I rule out foods.

That said, I had dairy again last night. Massive zit today. I seem to be extremely stupid.

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2/5/13 10:43 A

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I guess it is possible that some people can't digest some foods. What part of the nuts do you think would not be digested: the protein, fat or carbs? My question would be if something is not digested properly why would that same macronutrient be digested properly with other foods? It is possible to take digestive enzymes if the body does not digest something normally.
I doubt this is my issue, fortunately I have not had problems digesting food.

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2/5/13 9:26 A

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I may be missing but almonds (any nuts) can tear up your digestion. I have a hard time with lots of foods -- that aren't commonly thought of; it's individual.

BUT pistachios aren't digested by ME. I can do almonds, macadamia, walnuts but not P. It may be you can't do one of those nuts? I don't mean an intolerance or ALLERGY (hate that word). I mean you cannot digest them. Different issue.

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2/5/13 12:55 A

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I'm still hanging in there, but today I realized that coffee is not worth drinking with coconut milk/cream so that is going out, too.
I may be sensitive to something in salami as well. Of course it is processed pork. I am eating a lot of macadamia nuts and almonds. Will have to do some more cooking to satisfy my taste buds. The one thing I realize is that I am still a gourmet at heart and don't just eat to satisfy hunger. This is part of the frustration, not as many feel-good foods.
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2/4/13 5:11 P

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I had some yoghurt Friday (see?!) and have a big spot on my face. It's like clockwork. I'm lucky it's only one...

I figure if it does that to my face, it's got to be doing something else (at least inflammation). I shouldn't do it but I still do. When I'm doing well, I only have some once a month! :)

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2/4/13 4:52 P

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I still eat dairy. The first time I did Paleo I cut it out, but this time I kept it. I don't have any bad reaction to it, and yogurt is some pretty amazing stuff. I don't eat a lot of cheese, but I do keep it around, and we usually have whole milk or heavy cream for coffee.
I do much less dairy than I used to, but ultimately it makes me happy so I am keeping it. It is also a good source of fat for my toddler who doesn't eat much meat, and if you aren't intolerant of it I don't think it is unhealthy in moderation.

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2/4/13 9:46 A

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I *really* don't do well on dairy. I was a soy baby and it seems it's not just lactose but casein as well.

I can get away with a BIT but I tend to overdo it...then, it parks in my belly, backs up and later makes me nauseous and finally loose stools and ALWAYS big cysts on my face. You'd think that would stop me! For me, it hasn't (I believe) because I *can* get away with a little. ::sigh::

I hate being so hard-headed!

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2/3/13 8:02 P

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My average pulse was down another 7 beats today and I got my first long run of 8 miles in at the same speed and average pulse of 134 as my 4.5 mile run two days ago. A week ago even the 4.5 mile run would have been out of the question. So maybe it's going to be worth it to forgo the dairy. At least that's how I feel at the moment. emoticon

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2/3/13 6:57 P

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If you are having some health issues-then def get rid of dairy for at least 30 days to see if it's the cause.
Other than that-there are certain Paleo people out there who say that some dairy is ok as long as you tolerate it (Chris Kresser talks a lot about this on his Personal Paleo).
Aside from that-just like anything we are used to..once it's out of your normal "routine" after a while you don't miss it. There are things I used to say I'd NEVER be able to do without..and now don't even flinch. Just remember what you CAN have not what you can't.
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2/3/13 6:06 P

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MarksDailyApple has a recipe for homemade yogurt... maybe that'd be an alternative you like?



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2/3/13 4:57 P

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I used to drink lots of latte everyday ( home made ), that was awful amount of milk + cheese. I did it cold turkey - cut coffee. So ... in January I had just 2 black ones, I don't miss it. To be honest had one latte today just to check how my body reacts. The milk itself was so sweet :). I might have just a coffee once per week, but without milk.

I eat a lot of coconut oil and fish, so maybe why I do not miss dairy at all.

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2/3/13 3:43 P

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Richard, I have read the same as far as counting carbs in fermented dairy. I gave up dairy because I think I may be sensitive to it, but possibly only to A1 diary or pasteurized dairy. Thanks for your input.
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2/3/13 3:37 P

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Birgit, I have also been in your situation and have not been able to completely give up dairy. I'm also not so sure that giving up dairy is necessary. I believe that genetically I am "acclimated" to dairy and do not suffer allergies or other effects of dairy. I think that prudent use of some dairy products such as yogurt, hard cheeses, and cream -- especially raw -- is ok for many people. I think that dairy is one of those "crossover" foods that if you can tolerate it, then go ahead with it in moderation. Regarding carbs, I have read where the fermentation process in dairy products cuts the carb count in half; the manufacturers put the full lactose/carb count in the nutritional information before the effects of the fermentation reduce the count. I wish I had kept track of the source of this information, and if I find the source I'll post it.

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2/3/13 2:37 P

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I'd already been off grains and beans and virtually all sugar for a long time. But giving up dairy is no fun, in spite of coconut milk and almond milk. The taste is just not the same as cream and there is no good substitute for cheese. Even coconut yogurt does not taste anywhere near as good as the real thing.
I am trying to stay under 50 grams of carbs/day to keep blood sugar levels ideal and that is getting a little more difficult, too, since many of my quick snack options are now out.
I'm going to stay dairy-free for 30 days and will decide then if I can reintroduce some raw dairy depending on how my pulse is affected, which seems to be the best indicator for me.
I would love to know how long it has taken others to not miss dairy (if it ever happens). I can't say that I am craving dairy the way I used to crave sugar and wheat but the texture and taste I do miss.

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