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10/13/11 10:03 P

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DRAMATICCLIMAX if you are mostly concerned with the possibility of GFCF helping autism, then don't worry too much if you stray a bit from Paleo. Knowing that animal products are not off the table makes it easier. You can get a lot from eggs, and make your own whole egg mayo too. Then add some nuts, and potatoes, yams, healthy fats and you will probably do OK. If you are really lacking then just stick with low allergen foods like rice, and try to make your own food as much as you can.

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10/13/11 6:51 P

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LOL! Thanks Annie. :)

Personally I think we as people get too focused on the branded 'diets' - is X food paleo/atkins/south beach/weight watchers/etc. friendly - and miss the point of just eating real, single ingredient food 80-99% of the time. But that's a rant for another time. ;)

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10/13/11 6:36 P

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You hit it straight on LadyR!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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10/13/11 6:13 P

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I love that attitude: If it's going to help you live a full, enjoyable life, then do that!

Who cares if you fit in the paleo/primal/whatever box!!

My $.02 is this: eat what helps you achieve that end, to heck with the rest. If going mostly veg helps, so be it.

I know what works for me doesn't always work for everyone, but the foundation is the same: Eat real food. Do that one thing, and you'll be miles ahead of everyone else health wise.

Please keep us posted on how things progress with your journey to make the best you possible!

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10/13/11 6:01 P

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Well. I haven't really started yet, to be honest.

I recently found that would help with my (high functioning) autism. I'd like to stay on the paleo diet, but if this diet is going to help me live a full life, then I'm going to do that one, Paleo or not.

I eat a lot of eggs, at least 4 a day. Eggs are vegetarian, I'm not going vegan, I'd cave and tear into some eggs the first chance I got.

And it won't be totally vegetarian, since I use bacon grease to cook most of my stuff, I like the way it tastes and I'll be using meat stocks still.

Milk isn't allowed on the GFCFSF diet, as it has Caesin in it.

I have removed all processed and refined foods from my diet.

I don't care about losing weight, or being fit or any of that, I just care about my health, most importantly, my mental health.

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10/13/11 5:45 P

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Drama; sounds like you might be a "carb type" from what you say about just feeling better with no meat. Dr. mercola has a test you can get from his website that will help you find out your metabolic type.

Have you gone for a while eliminating just gluten and dairy yet allowing just a very little meat?. just curious for my own knowledge.

Like LadyRose mentions, have you eliminated all processed and/or refined foods from your diet? Store-bought vegan and vegetarian stuff is very often full of refined junk. You can make your own delicious veggie patties. And tempeh is a wonderfully nutritious food.

I agree, animal products are of great benefit for health and you don't have to eat meat to enjoy those benefits.(It's what I've read anyway). If you are willing to eat free range, organic eggs, raw milk products and take fish oil supplements you will get the nutrients needed to supplement a vegan diet. (Just what i've read and experienced in my own life.

Good luck.

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10/13/11 2:37 P

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Ask, and you will recieve:

www.nomeatathlete.com/vegetar
ian-paleo
-diet/
(I didn't read it, just skimmed a bit so can't speak to the content or quality)

and from the whole9life.com/2011/06/whole-
30-v4/
comments about adapting vegetarian eating to Paleo:

" you can make some of the changes we recommend (like avoiding all forms of added sugar, ditching the grains and some legumes for vegetables and fruit and using unprocessed forms of vegetable protein sources (tempeh instead of Gardenburgers) – and experience some of the benefits of the program. In our professional experience, however, without incorporating additional animal products into your diet, you won’t experience the full benefits of the program as written. (That’s not a judgment – just a statement based on our experience.)"

Hope that helps.

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10/13/11 11:36 A

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Well... if you go with a 'raw' diet or all plant matter, it'd be paleo, unfortunately it'd be highly deficient in other essential nutrients (essential aminos, vitamins, fats, etc) that only come from meat.

As Cindy mentioned, most vegetarian options - legumes, rice, oats, etc., aren't paleo/primal...

I'm sure if you did a search for "vegetarian paleo" you could find some ideas... but I'm too much of a carnivore to be of much help. ;)

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10/13/11 9:40 A

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Do you eat eggs? I think the big thing is going to be getting in your protein. Many vegetarian options are not Paleo, and many are not GFCF.

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10/13/11 1:27 A

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Okay. I want to stick to these general things...

-Vegetarian
-Caesin Free
-Gluten Free

I want to be Vegetarian by personal choice. I've gotten to the point that I can eat meat, but I really prefer not to.

GFCF Being on the paleo diet really doesn't make this a hard choice.

So...
-No Meat
-No Dairy
-No Gluten

When I avoid these three things I just...function better. I just...I'm happier, I socialize better, my stomach doesn't hurt...

Can I work this and paleo together?

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