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10/22/10 6:16 P

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"Your one meal of eggs/bacon wasn't cause of the fat and protein, but maybe the lack of gluten/sugars?"

Possibly....but whatever it was, it was an eye-opener!! I do find that I'm more achy if my carbs in general are too high (I keep below 10% of calories), but wheat seems to be the worst in the speed it hits!

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10/22/10 12:44 A

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DB - you're cute. I feel like the master of my ship and giving up food is getting a bit easier (BUT ONLY CAUSE I FEEL BETTER!). I say that now, but change IS challenging! When someone tells me they could never give up bread, I bite my tongue. *whatever* I remember when I said that. :P (And I could drink my homemade salsa by the cup!)

CindySue48 - I hear you on finding good tomatoes (one of my faves actually - ate them daily, as I did peppers and potatoes in the form of chips before I figured out not such a good idea blood glucose-wise. I couldn't have a "coupla" chips, I just kept putting my hand in the bag - my hand had a mind of its own? LOL. Tried a "baggie" of chips, and just went back to the bag to fill it).

You know what I think, don't you? You should really be gf on purpose, not by happenchance. Your one meal of eggs/bacon wasn't cause of the fat and protein, but maybe the lack of gluten/sugars? I have an MD/ND who swears she can see her knuckles growing after having gluten (she had a negative celiac panel). It's inflammation at it's best. Drs. Eades discuss in their book ... how come you don't go all the way?!
;0) It's about undetectable nonpain/inflammation in the gut, ie leaky gut.

What you must go through is awful. I hate my pains and I've never even seen a doc for them. I can't imagine.

Edited by: DOTSLADY at: 10/22/2010 (00:51)
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10/18/10 7:54 P

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The tomatoes I can do without....I like them, but it's so hard (and expensive) to find good ones! Potatoes have been off my diet for a couple of years, but lately I've been having a bite or two on occasion. Peppers? Green, red, yellow you can have, but cayenne etc? HMMMMMMMMM

I noticed far less pain/discomfort with low carb, no grain when I knew I had osteoarthritis. I developed a rare form of RA a few years ago, back when I was on low carb, but still eating grains. I am relatively pain free....don't get me wrong, I still have pain, but FAR less than in the past. My RA is still an issue, but the flares are milder and less often. The OA is much improved too!

I noticed last summer at my daughter's wedding....it was a 4 day long event and the first 3 days was meals at the in-laws. When I went to bed the 3rd night I was very achy, when I woke up I was in pain.....one meal of all protein and fat (eggs w/bacon) and I felt 80% better. Since then I notice a slight increase in pain when I have grains.

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10/18/10 5:06 P

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Okay, well I just learned something today! I had no idea that nightshades could have that kind of effect on someone!

*Inserts foot in mouth.*

I can't even imagine giving up nightshades, since I love tomatoes, eggplants, and peppers. Salsa is one of my favorite condiments!

Maybe I'll try it sometime, just to see...

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I'm a non-dairy, nightshade free paleo person (as of May-ish) - should have done it years ago. If you have autoimmune conditions, it's very helpful for pain relief. Grains, dairy, legumes have lectins which bind to your intestines creating leaky gut. I was gluten free for four years, grain free for two-ish years, ate dairy and legumes (Wendy's gf chili when I'm about town and needed something to eat quick)- still had a leaky gut (took a test). I will retest the leaky gut sometime soon.

Nightshades have a chemical in them they use in pesticides to stun the muscles of bugs. As I couldn't necessarily differentiate the pains I was having from fibromyalgia, it took a visit to a dermatologist for a "myxoid cyst" on my toe (blister that wouldn't go away on my cuticle) to tell me it was related to osteoarthritis. Hmm!? I got to thinking and read a few books: it was dairy-free* and nightshade free, one or the other or both, that took away my hip pains. emoticon (Maybe I wrote down which in my blog - I need to check - lol).

Sooo, taking out the other foods might not be necessary based on your health status, but I've never felt better.
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*It was dairy free, I'm pretty sure: I had an imbalance of calcium ... could have also led to my heart attack as my 20+ years of palpitations also subsided.
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I'm not sure what nightshade free has done, but I've since popped my myxoid cyst (something the doc should have done for me, or at least tell me about) a coupla times and it has not returned. Am awaiting my toenail bed to return to normal. According to the book I read I'm to stay nightshade free for at least 3 months, better 6. I'm in my 5th month, so soon I'll reintroduce them to see what happens. Pretty much I've taken out all my favorite foods!
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Edited by: DOTSLADY at: 10/18/2010 (10:25)
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10/17/10 8:33 P

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There's a lot of flexibility in the diet if you want it. I've read on some boards that people won't eat nightshades (like eggplant, tomatoes, or peppers) because they didn't exist when humans were hunter-gatherers. Personally, I think it's a little extreme. On the other hand, some people choose to include some dairy. MDA does, and sometimes they include sweet potatoes or green beans, too. I figure do what works for you! No matter what, you'll be light years ahead health-wise.

I am particularly a fan of cultured dairy, like buttermilk, sour cream, or yogurt. Just make sure it's full-fat and comes from happy, non-injected-full-of-garbage cows, and I don't see why it can't be part of your diet.

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10/17/10 8:13 P

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I pretty much follow Mark's Primal approach, but do use dairy, but limited and only whole milk yogurt, cheese, etc. Most people don't follow 100% Legumes aren't "allowed", but a lot of people still eat peanuts (I do on occasion, but not often). The biggy is grains....no grains. Primal/paleo should be pre-agriculture foods. I personally think cheese, fermented milk, etc were eaten on occasion but not as a regular part of the diet.

Fruits and vegetables are supposed to be in-season only....but most people continue to eat them in the winter, even though most wouldn't be available to our ancestors, especially in northern climates.

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10/17/10 7:03 P

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Are they easing you into eating strictly or are they taking the more relaxed approach? My doc said just eliminate grains first and lowered carbs to 20% not counting veggies.

Obviously someone more experienced needs to answer you!

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10/17/10 6:47 P

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No dairy on the Paleo Diet, the Primal Blueprint is a little less strict and allows for a 20% of non-paleo foods, like dairy or anything YOU might want.



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10/17/10 6:30 P

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I'm a little confused I bought the Primal Diet cook book and there's recipes with cream and butter I thought you weren't suppose to have any dairy.

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