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10/3/09 9:18 P

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Yep, no grains, no legumes (that also includes peanuts!), no starchy vegetables (like potatoes or corn, although corn is technically a grain...) and no dairy (although that one is arguable). But I like Mark Sisson's 80/20 philosophy. 80% paleo and 20% "sensible indulgences." Even Cordain's book allows between 1-3 "cheat meals" in a week, depending on how great you want your paleo benefits to be. There are a lot worse things you can do than get sushi (or better yet, sashimi) and edamame once in a while.

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10/1/09 10:45 A

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All legumes, including soy beans are NOT paleo. Check Loren Cordain's list of paleo foods online but also remember that cheats are allowed on occasion...MJ

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10/1/09 10:03 A

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I was teetering on going Paleo until I found support for yogurt and cheese. I would have to cheat and eat it anyway. There is no way I'm drinking full fat milk. I just hate it, but I don't really care for milk anyway. Maybe my taste buds just know what I need.
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But since someone mentioned soy, I wanted to know does this also mean I can't eat Edammame? It looks so innocent and vegetable like. While technically soy, it doesn't seem processed. Does anyone know?

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9/27/09 1:31 P

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According to sources I've read, milk really isn't that great a source of calcium. If it were, the US, which has the highest consumption of dairy in the world, would not also be high on the list when it comes to osteoporosis. Green leafy vegetables are better sources. Also, I would think you'd get quite a bit by cooking bones to make rich broth. Last time I made a pot roast in the slow cooker, the meat had bones in it. I was surprised to discover how soft the bones were. We must have gotten a lot of calcium in that roast.

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9/21/09 6:15 P

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i do`nt think i can give up dairy as i need the calcium for my arthitic bones i have had one ankle pinned and an operation on my elbow i do`nt want any more thankyou i use a chair out doors and a walking aid in doors due to an accident 25 years ago

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9/21/09 1:29 P

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emoticon emoticon Thanks for leadering :).

My milk thoughts: I eat plain yogurt, preferably whole fat, organic. If I drink milk (in a pinch with a protein powder, so not often at all), whole fat, organic. I'll also eat whole fat or 2% fat cottage cheese once in a while.

My old life is fraught with hunger - hunger because of grains (celiac disease), hunger from low-fat diet. I've never known the satiety I've grown to have by incorporating whole fats and oils into my diet. What a relief!

My soy beliefs: soy is overused and abused in our culture (like grains). I remember learning about soy in the mid-90s and thinking it was a perfect food (now I think eggs are :P). However, I'm hypothyroid and know it's an endocrine disrupter, so I won't go there. Soy should be non-GMO (and most ARE GMO), fermented for best utilization in the gut, as fermented foods (there are other choices besides soy/natto) aid digestion of vitamins and minerals. Soy is one of the most allergenic of foods (as are grains, and to be fair, dairy) required for food labels, but honestly, I know of only a few people who know.

I'll drink almond milk sometimes for a change, too.

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welcome! i think a lot of us are still figuring this all out! :)

as for the milk. i am not doing any dairy myself. i have found i feel so much better without it. when i want something other then water or green tea, i get Almond Milk. it does have a sweet taste to it and i have it as a treat once and a while.

i have also stayed away from soy products. i love them, but, after eating like this for a while, i believe in what the paleo way is doing for my body :) and if it is saying i shouldn't eat soy, then, well, i won't eat it.

i need to post here more often, so i will make that commitment.

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i never thought of it that way we are the only species who drink milk throughout our lives, i suppose i thought as it is a natural substance it would be ok in small quantities


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LOL Tuppence!

I was mainly wondering if you all were following a different definition of Paleo!!

I don't necessarily agree with the no dairy part of Paleo. I think that there were times, although seldom, that Grok slaughtered a female with full mammaries and harvested the milk. But I think it was mainly used fermented, like yogurt and cheese. So I think a little cheese and yogurt on occasion, even daily in short bursts is just fine.

I agree with the idea that only children should be drinking milk. We are the only mammal that continues to drink milk after weaning! I do agree with continuing to give children and teens milk as it contains good proteins and IMHO kids don't get enough protein...unless, of course, mom & dad are feeding them Paleo! But whole milk only! We need the fat and the fats in milk are good fats!

I'm intolerant to soy and hate the taste, so I avoid it as much as possible. Right now I'm following a special diet (The Drs Eades' The 6 Week Cure for the Middle Aged Middle) so I'm not exactly following Paleo....but for my solid meal (first 2 weeks is 3 whey shakes + 1 meal) I'm sticking with Paleo/Primal.

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o dear, what have i started?


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Cindy, it isn't acceptable and I am glad to say that not a drop or morsel of soy has passed my lips since I started paleo in May. Previous to then my breakfast was always whole grain cereal with soy milk and fruit- now it's scrambled eggs and fresh fruit with a scoop of natural plain yogurt....MJ

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I don't consider soy milk as being Paleo! Is it an acceptable food? I follow mostly Mark Sisson's guidelines and soy, unless fermented, is not considered acceptable.

Personally, I'd rather see you drinking milk, but whole not skim, than soy milk!!

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thankyou for the tip


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Thanks for stepping up Tuppence. As for milk- I can't tolerate cow's milk except in yogurt form, if I use soy I choose the vanilla flavour...MJ

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yes i agree, my downfall is milk, i have skimmed which is like water anyway i can`t seem to get used to soya milk, any ideas/?


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Hi!! Glad to have you as our leader!! All we can do is try, right?



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hi, i am your new leader i followw this way of life to the best of my abilities but i must admit i do`nt always get it right


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