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8/19/09 3:02 P

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So I just started swimming again last week and I can see some improvement in my breathing (my sequence for breathing is right arm, left arm, right arm, breath, right arm, etc)I can only breath on the right side, weird I know but thats how its always been. Right now I'm having to stop every few laps to catch my breath. Is there any practice/changes I can make to better my breathing technique to be able to swim continuously sooner? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! Becca

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Thanks, I will check it out!




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Sidney, you should check with you mp3's manufacturer what kind of ear plugs will work best with it. There's the hard ones you stick in like a cotton swab or the silicone ones that look like play-doh.

Either one should be recommended by the manufacturer I think so you can play it safe.

Good luck!
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does anyone know what kind of ear plugs are good and how to put them in? I get a lot of ear infections, and I have the new SwiMP3 that needs ear plugs, so I was wondering what I should do. Please????




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http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com

Please visit the website it's free, but the animal rescue is having low hits per day and their afraid the program will be pulled, this helps feed animals in rescue centers from corporate sponsors, I know this doesn't have to do with weight loss but it is a good cause and only a 30 second commitment.

 
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Hey neither did I until I "step" foot in that pool.

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As I said I never heard of this technic before, but good to know...
Always learn something new...

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Well it is is a lot safer environmentally and health wise, your airways don't get irritated and it doesn't burn your eyes at all. The pool has aprox 300% less salt that real sea water because it is regulated by that filter machine they use. Most people at the facility don't wear goggles, even new born babies are allowed in; I use goggles cus I'm the kind of person that can have water on her eyes... I know, I'm a freak! :P. An added bonus is your swimsuits and swimming apparel last forever since there's no degradation to the material. I think that In the 4 years and a half I've been swimming there I changed swimsuits once a year and only cus I wanted to, not because the latex in the fabric was done.

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i never heard of it... Is it safer enviromentally than chlorine?
Doesn't it burns your eyes? Or I guess you use googgles...
I remember back in Miami, I always hated the saltwater pools, but back then I didn't liked googles... It took me forver to find one that works well.

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They put this salt rocks (Na+Cl) in a filtering machine that "breaks" its molecules into just Cl and adds an oxygen molecule turning it into "bio-chlorine". They also add ozone to the water making it safer to swim in. And yes, the water tastes salty! I didn't know this the first time I went in this pool and I was constantly thinking I was crazy because I taste salt in the water, lol!

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Salt rocks??? How does that works?
Does it make the poolwater salty?

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Ah yes, I know what you mean. At the pool I go to they don't use chlorine but big salt rocks to keep the water clean so it's almost like a thermal pool added your airways don't get burnt and is eco friendly.

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Yeah, swimming always helps with sinuses... Where I grew up, they had thermal health water (in the swimming pool-cooled) in the pools, and the fume breathed in and out always helped a lot along with the forced breaths... Now the pool I go don't have health water, but even the chlorine helps a lot... Too bad now my throat hurts ...

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No prob Amy! I hope it helps!

Peony, I too found that when having sinuses problems swimming in the warm water helps a lot.

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Aldana's suggestion is the one I would give you... I always found that whenever I have problem with sinuses, congested nose etc...swimming always help. Especially health/water, but even the chlor and the forced breathing (in through the mouth, out through the nose always helps clear up breathing...
In your place before or after swimming, if you have in the warm water, I would practice putting my face in the water, and bobbing up and down for a bit practicing blwing out underwater, and breathing in when my head is up...

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Thanks for the tip, Aldana! I'll have to start taking 10 minutes or so of extra time at the pool every day to spend practicing... I'll let ya know how it goes. I'm starting to think that my nose is broken LOL

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Amy, when you take the air you have to hold it in your mouth, then when you go underwater blow it trough your nose as if you had a really congested nose. At first you can try just submerging your face and blowing air trough your nose once you mastered this you will be able to lose the nose plugs.

Hope this helps,
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Silly Q here, but I wear one of the nose clip thingies when I swim b/c I just can't seem to learn how to hold my breath under water without water going up my darn nose! I've asked lifeguards at the pool and a friend of mine who swims... they all say to blow out through your nose... I dunno.. I breathe out through my mouth and when I come up out of the water I'm still breathing out right before I take a new breath in through my mouth. I just don't see how to breathe out through my nose. I feel stupid b/c I have to wear the clip on my nose... any new suggestions on how to learn??

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Oh Peony! you're too funny! I used to think I was a fish of some kind too because I've always wanted to be near it, swim in it, dive, play, just love the water!

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LOL, Aldana... it isn'y for nothing I have that dolphin as my avatar, and as my tattoo (and screen saver, and key chain and...
My father loves to fly so much I always said he must have been a bird in one of his earlier lifes, in the same way I love swimming so much I must have been some kind of fish...preferably a dolphin :-)))
Did I tell you that back when we lived in Miami where there are a lots of pools (except where we lived :(( ) our friends called me little fish... cause wherever we went I firs dived into their pool swamm a couple of thousand meters, then they could even talk to me...

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LOL Peony! we're not all lil mermaids ya know?! :P Maybe the flipping coins work when you're doing drills??

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I would have one problem with the turning of coins... I don't stop long enough to reach out and turn anything. LOL

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No prob PDL! Hope it works for you too! Let us know how you did :)

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Thanks for both your replies. I have been getting lost so I have been adding laps after all like you said how can extra laps hurt right! :) Doing by tens sounds good and setting up a routine too. Thanks again.

Paula

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PDL, sorry I forgot to answer this question!! I agree with Annet that sometimes we mess up our count but if you break it down into 10s like she said it should be fairly easy.

What I do is set up a routine in my mind, for example: 6 crawls x 4 backstroke and repeat that 5 times then I know that's 50 laps. Or also I've seen people bring some coins or beads and every time they make swim 10 laps they move one bead/coin to the side; I suppose they bring X amount of beads/coins, X being the number of laps they want to swim.

Annet, I agree in that adding does no harm, most of the time we swim more laps so what's one made up lap here and there?

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And did I add, whenever I am in doubt I add two or four laps.
Besides does it really matters if it is 100 or 102?
Or even 7 or 8 ??

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Sorry for butting in, but today while swimming 112 laps I was thinking about your question and how do I keep track... Of course time to time I mess it up too, but whenever I am unsure I add two more laps just to make sure. After all I would be only cheating on myself...
Sometimes, especially when I have something particular to think through-at one time I translated a song's lyrics in my head while swimming- I just go by the time. I know that I can swimm about 2000 meter's, 80 laps in an hour.Maybe it would help to count only every other turn... Other times I break up my swimming. I do twenty laps of breastroke, ten of freestyle,etc. I just have to count up to ten and keep track how many tens I did. Sometimes, when there is nobody else -to think me funny- at the end of a lap I announce loudly where I am at.
And of course there are watches that can do lap-counting...

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Aldana Thank you for your response. Do you know of a trick to keeping track of your laps? I get so into the swimming I forget to count or I start thinking was that lap 7 or lap 8. When I swam before it was on a team and the most I ever did was four laps at a time so it wasn't hard to keep track. Thanks again :) PDL

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PDL,

The best thing to do would be to ask someone at the pool (pref. pool staff) how long the pool is and then you can work in getting in more laps/yards for the same period of time. I wouldn't go by mile estimation since that depends on what you swim for. For example, if you were a pro swimmer you'd have to do 1 mile/15min. You get the idea.

If you haven't swim in that long I'd start slowly but steadily to increase your pulmonary capacity and then worry about miles.

Remember that for the challenge you will have to count miles so it is important that you know how long the pool is and how many laps you did.

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Hi everyone. I swam for 20min last night, my goal was 30min. I think my body protested since I haven't actually done any laps in about 20 years. I do other workouts but it's just not the same! Even my lungs were tired. I do have a question. I am trying the English Channel Callenge but I can't seem to keep track of my laps. Does anyone have a hint or maybe know the approximate of Min to Miles ie. for swimming 30min you have swam .X of a mile. Thanks.

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Annet,

Here's a link you can follow to see the fins I'm talking about: http://www.tyr.com/shop/flexfinstm-p-160-c
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If you want to get a swimsuit I strongly suggest you get a TYR one since they're super resistant (I had one now for 2 years and still looks great) and probably will be on sale in a month.

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Aldana, to tell you the truth I never even saw thosw fins you talk about... I know those boards we use for feet kicks... I shall do some search on the net. Just as well, I want to look for a new swimmsuit too...

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Annet,

If you want to endure more time you will have to work on the muscles you use to swim butterfly. For that what I recommend is to use a pullbuoy to practice your stroke; go for 6 laps just using your arms, if you feel tired you can use the crawl kick but only for a lil bit. Also, practice your kick, do you think you could get ahold of a pair of fins? if so, try to go for another 6 laps while you just use your kick (place your arms before your head so you don't go buttheading the wall.. this happened to me the first time I used fins... so fast you don't see the wall coming :P). If you feel super tired in between laps you may rest for no longer than 30 secs or 5 inhalations.

Let me know how this goes.
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Thanks Alana.
Yes I know the basic technic, I did learned it when I was around ten/twelve and swamm competitively. Yes, th earms, and the double leg, I remember working on NOT to immerse myself, my head complitely, try to keep themovement under the wated as shallow as possible (so it would need less energie to push out of the water). Maybe it is probably stamina, and maybe some adjusting the technique I don't know. Right now from a head jump (how you call that in English???) I can do it for two laps (50 meters all toogether.)I don't care that much about speed with thi sstroke. I just want to be able to do it for some lenght.
As for speed I work on it with breast stroke and freestyle.

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Hey Annet,

First of all let me tell you: it is perfectly normal to get REALLY tired when you're swimming butterfly stroke. Why? cus it involves a 2 time swimming (1 rest 2 stroke + kicking) and that means you have to go from floating in the water to using all you got to push your body trough the water. So don't worry too much about that, it doesn't mean you're not doing great (I think you'd have to be a pro to not get tired).

Now on to technique. I'd like to know if you know the basics? the keyhole arms movement, the double leg's lash?. There's some drills I can give you but it all depends on how much you know about this style. For me, technique is what it will help you improve your speed and overall stamina so practicing will help you lots.

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Hi Aldana, can you help me with butterfly? I learned breastroke when I basicly learned to swimm (at three) then added back, and freestyle when I did it competitively. Doing butterfly was part of the routine but it was more my intiative, because I always tought it is a beautiful way to swimm. Anyway, no matter how much I swimm, how I train, I can't do more than two (three at the very most) laps of it... Any suggestions?

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Fatcity,

Glad we could be of help. If you want to train your speed you might want to focus on anaerobic workouts. Pyramid workouts are always a good option and easy to remember. For example:

Swim
1 length top speed, 1 active rest (you come back swimming same style just slower)
2 lengths top speed, 2 active rest.
3 lengths top speed, 3 active rest.
4 lengths top speed, 4 active rest.
3 lengths top speed, 3 active rest.
2 lengths top speed, 2 active rest.
1 lengths top speed, 1 active rest.

You can rest 30 secs to 1 min in between sets. If you feel like you're too tired after the top speed part on your 3 and 4 you can come back backstroking to have a fuller rest and not compromise your breathing.

Hope this helps!
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Thanks so much for the workouts Karen and Aldana! I copied and pasted them into a document on my computer to print out and take to the pool. I might even get them laminated. :) I too am training for a triathlon, but the swim portion is only 1000mts. I really need to work on my speed more than distance.




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Thanks Aldana. I have already stopped swimming until I figure out what's going on/get better. I'm hoping I feel better soon!

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Heather,

The easy thing would be to go and ask the one in charge of the pool how long is it. Also in some pools they paint miles marker on the outside (just along the border). Guesstimating works too but you won't be certain until you know the pool's actual yardage.

Once you have that down just count laps and then multiply by the pool's length size. For example I swim in a 15 meter pool so I know that if I swim 110 links I will have swam for 1650 meters (110 x 15 = 1650) OR 1 mile .

Is this what you were asking about? hope it helps!
Aldana

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Kelly,

It does sound like tendonitis in your triceps-shoulder area. Were you using a pair of paddles? or maybe some other kind of arm resistance (just your arms and legs crossed or using a pullbuoy, etc)?? Is someone supervising your swims? Maybe you just did a bad movement and that caused it. Tendonitis can be like that, sometimes minor movements can bring it up.

If I may say so, I would stop the swimming until the pain is either bearable (as in almost not there) or it goes away. I once had tendonitis in my shoulder too and since I didn't pay attention to it I ended up having to go to Physiotherapy for a month.

What you want to do to calm the pain is to ICE the area for at least 10 mins, rest for 5 and then ice again for another 10 (if you can hold it longer better yet but remember to rest it when the area goes numb). If the pain persists for another day or two I'd go see a doctor (sport injuries pref.).

I hope this helps and let me know how you do,
Aldana

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Hi, I have a very basic question, I have been swimming in a large pool in a old high school, how do I figure old my yardage/miles etc. Heather

 
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Hi Aldana,
ByePounds suggested I post to the Q&A and see if you have any thoughts about what is wrong with my arm.

Last Wednesday I went swimming and about 3 laps in, my left arm started really hurting in the muscle right above my elbow. At first it was a stabbing pain starting when my stroke reached my hip and I pulled my arm out of the water to finish the stroke. I had to stop after the 4th lap because it went from a stabbing pain to feeling like the entire muscle was knotted up. I swam Monday and Tuesday nights with no issues. On Wednesday, it only hurt as I was completing my stroke.

Thursday, my arm was a little sore from the workout the night before, but I had no pain for the rest of the weekend.

Monday night I went to the pool again. A few laps in, I could feel the muscle starting to hurt again, but I kept going, which was probably a mistake, but I can be kind of stubborn. I did 90 laps and I thought it felt like it was getting better as I went, but I think now it may have just been the endorphins. Tuesday (yesterday) my arm was sore all day, and even today I can feel a little soreness as I'm typing.

A couple of people I've talked to think it sounds like tendonitis. The pain I'm having seems to be in the exterior muscle of the upper arm, down near my elbow, but it may be the tendon for all I know.

Any thoughts? I'm really bummed since I've been swimming for years and have never had a problem like this. It's annoying to be out of commission.

Thanks!
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Hi. Can't wait to hear how you like it. I had to do it by myself this morning, my workout partner was not there, and I think I always do a little better with someone to push me along. I find myself using this site for motivation when I'm low on self motivation. Thanks!

 
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Hey Karen!

Thanks for sharing this routine with us, it seems quite intense!!

Maybe for the ones that are not this far up on their trainment level they could cut down some yardage or rest for longer periods (say 1min 30 or 2mins if necesary). Also I think that finishing off harder is a good idea if your anaerobic level is good (new swimmers tend to get really really tired when they do this finishing sprints).

I will def give this a try and let you know how I did. If someone else trys it too, pls let us know!!

Aldana

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Hi. Aldana suggested that I post this workout here:
This is courtesy of my friend who is a triathlete and very fast (note: I swim in a 25 yard pool, so a 100 is 2 laps--I count a lap as back and forth)

Warmup:
300 swimming crawl

1st Set:
3 x 100 yds. on the 1:00 (I use the lap clock at the pool and start on the 60 each time. If you swim faster, you get more rest.)

2nd set:
300 kicking (I use a kickboard and fins)
300 pulling
300 kicking (sometimes for this one, I kick on my back)
300 swimming crawl

3rd set:
3x 100 yds. on the :55 (same as above, but you get 5 seconds less rest than last time. I really try and push it out on this one)

4th set:
600 yds. easy

Cool Down:
300 yds. (sometimes I try and push it out at the end, just to finish off the workout hard)

Total: 3000 yds. or 60 laps


 
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That suddenly makes sense and I'll try the thumb along the hip/arm. And then I'll try tensing longer. Your description is clear and I can refer to it again. Thanks.

Edited by: BYEPOUNDS at: 2/7/2007 (08:16)
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Focal means the area in which you still can see your arms. Yes, fingertips go first, you bend your hand a bit (say 45)towards you (palm to your chest) and you start the pulling part till you're almost at your chest (here is where your elbow will stick out) then your hand's palm should be facing your feet (by now you should be pulling towards your hips), just when you reach your arm's full extension is when you release the pressure from your arms. Try to think of your arm as a paddle, not just your hand but the whole arm; push with your hands, forearm, your tricpes (when you're about to finish the stroke).

There's a drill you can try that just recalled from last week's class. Here's what you do: Swim as usual except that you will hold your thumb out (outter than usual I mean) and everytime your hand is past your hips you rub it with it, the same when you're past your armpits. That way you will be forced to place your arm correctly (though in an exagerated way).

Let me know if this helps.

Aldana

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What does focal mean?

Finger tips enter first, right? Then go deep and straight arm, but not too far, right cause then the elbow goes out first. I'll try keeping the arm tense and see if that helps. I know that my arms don't feel weak.

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Weight Loss in 2011--24 lbs.
01/01/12--162.0
02/08/12--159
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4/19--157
5/18--150
7/07/12=6th anniversary
2012--lost 12 lbs this year!!!
1/04/13--149 :-)
4/11/13--147
5/28/13--145
9/29/13--138 50 lbs
1/13/14--131.5
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What would you say you're not sure about? your entering point? your stroke per se? your recovery?.

One simple thing that could change how you swim is how you place your arm underwater. Most swimmers tend to relax their arm once they're past their focal range but if you keep it tight till your arm is fully extended you will be able to pull your self further than usual. This will work your triceps and will make your arms feel like weak at first but it does make a difference.

Try this and pls let me know how you do and/ir it helps.

Aldana

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My arms are what I'm unsure about.

185 on my fourth anniversary of July 7, 2010
Joined weight watchers on 10/18/10 @ 188.0/after multiple 17 week passes took a break on 2/11/12
Weight Loss in 2011--24 lbs.
01/01/12--162.0
02/08/12--159
Plan to lose 12 lbs in 2012
4/19--157
5/18--150
7/07/12=6th anniversary
2012--lost 12 lbs this year!!!
1/04/13--149 :-)
4/11/13--147
5/28/13--145
9/29/13--138 50 lbs
1/13/14--131.5
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Hey Everyone, I just posted in the main tread and thought of posting my anaerobic routine in case someone might want to give it a try.

***ANAEROBIC ROUTINE***
I suggest you try this on free style/crawl
WU -- At least 300 meters/yards
4x -- 1 min top speed, 2 mins active rest*
2x -- 1 min 30 secs top speed, 1 min 30 secs active rest*
1x -- 2 mins top speed, 1 min active rest*
CD -- At least 200 meters/yards (you can switch to back stroke or breast stroke to ease the muscles)

* (active rest means you swim just slower than you did before. You can switch to back stroke if you get winded)

Keep in mind that you need to build this up slowly; overdoing will probably lead to hurting your self. You can start adding blocks once you feel that don't get tired/winded after each set.

Let me know if you have any questions or comments about this.

Aldana

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I'd say focus on your technique. What would you say is your weakest point? your stroke? your kick? your breathing? Try using your pool's elements (if available) for each one of this points.

For example:

Use your kickboard to make your kick stronger.
Use a pair of fins to make your kick smoothier.
Use a pair of paddles to make your stroke stronger.
Dissociate your strokes, just focus on your recovery or your entry point, one side at the time (left, right).

Also, if you can, watch some slow motion vids from Ian Thrope or any other olympic swimmer; you will be able to see what propper technique looks like and you can try to mimic that. This is somehow of a "new" aproach, it has been proven that our brain can be trained trough visual stimuli. Watch one vid over and over and your brain will learn how to do it better, I swear. I tried it for my starting jump and it worked.

Hope this helps!

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I swim quite a bit as you are aware, but my crawl stinks, any way to improve it? Thanks!

185 on my fourth anniversary of July 7, 2010
Joined weight watchers on 10/18/10 @ 188.0/after multiple 17 week passes took a break on 2/11/12
Weight Loss in 2011--24 lbs.
01/01/12--162.0
02/08/12--159
Plan to lose 12 lbs in 2012
4/19--157
5/18--150
7/07/12=6th anniversary
2012--lost 12 lbs this year!!!
1/04/13--149 :-)
4/11/13--147
5/28/13--145
9/29/13--138 50 lbs
1/13/14--131.5
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Glad you liked it! I will post some time routines too for those that don't have much time and what to make the most out of their time.

Aldana

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Looks good!

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Hey Guys,

I will be posting some routines for you to do in case you want to try something different from your routine.

This time I'll add a very simple routine for half a mile, you can choose whichever style you feel most confortable with or the one you would like to improve. So here goes:

yards |--| excerscise
100 |--| Warmup

200 |--| Kick --/ you will have to use a kick board and hold your head above water level, placing your elbows on the board to increase water resistance.

200 |--| Stroke --/ you will need a pullbuoy and a pair of paddles or gloves.

300 |--| Full style --/ swim in the style you've chosen without kick board and/or gloves.

TOTAL YARDS = 800/half mile

Let me know if you try this or if you think this is too simple.

Aldana

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Hey everyone,

I'm Aldana from the main challenge and I've created this post in which you can ask anything about the challenge or swimming drills, techniques, etc.

I've been swimming with a class for almost 4 years, 3x a week (I think I skipped like 10 class total :P, yes, I'm a water sports freak); I've also went to a couple of open water comps and would like to pass on any information you might need.

Hope to hear from you guys soon,

Aldana

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