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2/27/12 9:52 A

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A friend of mine was raised vegetarian and came out as gay at age 20 -- his mom was convinced that she had made him gay by feeding him tofu. Apparently, she didn't stop and think about the three other straight children she raised.

I think the key to what you said, Rob, is that Asian cultures have been eating tofu for 5,000 years. How many, do you suppose, of those bricks of tofu were made with genetically modified/engineered seeds, or artificially loaded with extra soy protein isolate? Americans really lost the ability to eat a traditionally or evolutionarily appropriate diet, but those cultures with such impressive longevity have maintained the same culturally ingrained diet for thousands of years. There's a lot to be learned from them.

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2/27/12 9:31 A

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There is sites all over the internet yelling about how bad soy is, my favorite one is " Soy is making our kids gay!". Somehow they have been eating soy and soy products as a staple food in Asia for 5000 years and have managed to survive. If you look at the list of life expectancy by country number one and two are Japan and Hong Kong. The big beef eating United States is number 36. So it all comes down to who you trust. Go to the Mayo Clinic site, they seem to think it is a health food and will list scientific research. As for me I think I will stick with the scientists and 5000 years of history.

Rob

I've found without question that the best way to lead others to a more plant-based diet is by example - to lead with your fork, not your mouth. ~Bernie Wilke
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2/26/12 3:08 P

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Is there evidence of the estrogen thing? From my research I haven't found anything concrete. If anyone has I'd love to see your sources!

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7/24/11 11:40 A

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I am just stuck on the word 'frankenfoods.' Love it. I will teach that one to my children today. They will roll their eyes, but maybe remember it later when they are choosing their own groceries? emoticon

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7/17/11 11:35 A

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Thanks for the feedback. Good point on soy protein isolate.

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7/17/11 9:14 A

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I've read about the dangers of soy before also. it seems like everytime the general public gloms onto a new miracle food, eventually there's some evidence showing it's not all that great.

I liked your comments, BTVMADS. Avoid frankenfoods. Moderation. Smart choices.



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7/17/11 8:20 A

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That article is the last thing I would take at face value -- it has an obvious bias and not a single bibliographic citation. Where is the author getting any of that information? What studies did s/he read to come to those conclusions? Oh wait, that's right, the author doesn't trust scientific studies because they're paid for by various industries.

It's not that I don't agree with some of the points. Soy does have a lot of estrogens that make it unsuitable for children and pregnant women, and nobody with thyroid problems should eat it. But for most of us, eating a couple of servings of tofu each week is actually not that bad -- 4 oz. of firm tofu contains just 10 grams of soy protein (about 1/3 of an ounce). If you're eating real, whole foods, and not weird frozen frankenfoods injected with soy protein isolate (Lunabars and other power-type bars are LOADED with the stuff, btw), you're not going to be in any danger.

Just read labels, avoid foods with genetically modified crap in them (hint: if it doesn't say NO GMO's, it has genetically modified ingredients, especially if it has soybean oil, corn oil, corn syrup, or soy protein isolate!), and eat real, whole food.

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7/16/11 11:42 P

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Totally agree on meat. It is really scary stuff. Unless it is humanly caught, humanely raised....nitrate free etc we have a problem.

I suppose we could stress about everything to death, and someday we will die.

The bottom line- the more natural and organic- the better. And everything in balance and moderation.



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7/16/11 11:36 P

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very controversial! did you read all the comments? there is much research on this subject, I have heard it all before.
There is also controversy surrounding meat for that matter. emoticon www.foodrenegade.com/dangers-of-soy/
here is your link clickable.

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7/16/11 10:40 P

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I am posting this as a dedicated over 15 year vegetarian. I am going back to occasional (humanely caught) meat and other protein alternatives here and there, It will not be easy for me......

Just one example below. You can find may more.

http://www.foodrenegade.com/dangers-of-s
oy/


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