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1/19/13 7:21 P

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I have been following a Paleo eating plan for the past 19 days as part of my Box' challenge. Prior to this, I had switch to clean eating over a year ago. So I did not experience the lethargy and other symptoms that others did.

However, within the last 2 days, I have been extremely bloated. Is this typical?

If yes, what causes it? Will it go away soon?

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12/10/12 6:06 A

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I did a round of Whole30 with my Crossfit Endurance Team in September. I then proceeded to keep mostly Paleo for the past few months. I say mostly Paleo because I added dairy back into my diet after my whole30 was over. I did not lose any scale weight during that time but I lost about 3% bodyfat, clothes fit better and my skin cleared up a lot. I have found that for me to get through days where I have long runs I NEED more carbs the day before and the day of. I cannot run longer than an hour before my energy levels drop and I fall on my face without at least 150g of carbs the day before. I don't really like tubers like sweet potato so it was really hard for me to get enough carbs. This month I have decided to add back gluten-free grains and carb-cycle and I dropped 3 lbs in a week. So, I can see both arguments; I feel like in general a calorie is a calorie, as long as you are getting enough protein you can distribute your other macro's as you see fit. I'm hoping that it keeps up because I want to lose about 10 lbs to get me in shape for my first marathon in May!

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11/4/12 6:22 P

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Like your posting and plan to heed your advice.

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a calorie is still a calorie if you are trying to lose fat.....and you also need to find what works for you...if you still want/need dairy..then do it...but get rid of the processed crap.....eat whole foods....add more veggies...a little at a time..and the less sugar you eat..the less you will crave it...

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I've been doing Crossfit for about 6 months, and I've seen lots of gains in strength, stamina, etc., but not in weight loss. My trainer talked to be about Paleo, but I thought it would be hard. I gave up diet sodas about a year ago, and I'm not much of a dairy person, but I'm a definite sugar addict. I've tried gradually eliminating sugar, and it hasn't really worked. My trainer told me about PreMade Paleo - which is sort of a Jenny Craig of Paleo (my term, they'd probably hate it!). It's frozen paleo meals, and everything is Whole 30 compliant, meaning grass fed and clean. I did a 3 meal trial, and the food was great. I decided to try a month, but wasn't going to go "full Paleo". Then I saw the LuRong Living Paleo challenge. I'm always up for a challenge so I signed up. The rules on following Paleo are REALLY strict, so I was a little worried. Well, it's been 1 week, I had 2 cheat meals (Jewish holidays), and I've lost 7 pounds. I don't just do the PreMade Paleo, since they don't do breakfasts, and really only meals for 5 days a week, but have found it much easier than I thought it would be. I'm still crossfitting 5 days a week, and have noticed that on a couple of days I felt like I ran out of steam. My trainer says that will pass. So far I'm loving this!

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When I started to reallllly watch what I ate..and buy into the Paeleo way of eating...I thought I ate pretty good...LOL...I slowly and surely cut things out of my idea....I cut out most starches..and cut out anything that comes out a box...then cheese...which I love...switched to coconut milk....I use steamed cauliflower mushed instead of pasta...I also found Paleo "bread" http://www.julianbakery.com/bread-product/
paleo-bread-coconut/ ...What I learned is there are A LOT of options....you just need to change a little by little, not all at once...little by little...steady making progress and changes, and find out what works for you....I have found that once I cut yogurt , which was a daily staple in my diet..when I re-introduced it, I paid dearly..with stomach issues...lol

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9/19/12 4:54 P

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I am very new to Crossfit but have been following a fairly strict Paleo plan for about 3 months. For Freddie I'd recommend cutting anything with added sugar and artificial sweeteners for about a month if your having trouble switching and then cut the grains. If you use caffeine switch to coffee or tea with no sweetener rather then soda, ditch any candy or similar and instead snack on raw nuts (almonds are a favorite of mine) or a piece of fruit. For anyone trying to switch to Paleo it's not uncommon to feel sick the first week or so of cutting the grains you just have to stick with it. Are there any other common diets for Crossfit other then The Zone and Paleo? I have a friend who's doing PX90, but I'm not sure if that would transition well for Crossfit once he finishes the 90 days.

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8/26/12 12:14 A

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So nutrition has always been my downfall in amy program I use. I am gradually trying to switch to paleo. Seeing this post will hopefully give me some tips as long as it stays active. I'm trying to cut out the dairy first.

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7/30/12 10:47 A

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OFFDREA - You are reading the zone measurements incorrectly. You are suppossed to have 3 blocks of fat PER MEAL not a day. Also, I tried the paleo diet and never could stop feeling sick on it and all of my strength was going down. I added 1 pack of instant oatmeal a day to my diet and I felt so much better and I keep getting stronger. Use common sense. Not every diet will work for every person.

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7/21/12 12:13 A

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You probably found your answer by now, but Paleo is short for the Paleolithic diet or what ancient man would have eaten: mostly meat (hunter/gatherers), vegetables (greens all around), some fruits, nuts and seeds, no processed foods, few grains (because they were not yet agricultural and ground foods up like we do), avoid poisons (chemical foods), etc.

It's a whole foods, natural diet. It is a natural way find a healthy weight.



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I just read through this library.crossfit.com/free/pdf/cfjiss
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I can't wrap my head around the fat intake.... I don't know if Im reading something wrong but I have it worked out to 16.5g of fat a day for a 3 block plan? I eat anywhere from 60-80 and 95% of that comes from nuts, oils and meats (the other 5% is cheese, which I do try to limit)

I eat pretty low carb, 90% if the time none for dinner except veggies, and limit my sugar intake. I have been at a plateau of weight and inches for a year. Minimals gains at times I have slacked off on workouts and eaten poorly for a couple weeks here and there. I am in my second week of Crossfit so it is too early to see if it will bust me out. I am very frustrated with watching every damn thing I put in my mouth and not seeing any progress.
I have tried spark carb recommendations, no carbs except for veggies, high cal, low fat, low cal...Im at a loss...

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Hey all.. I am really (really) new to cross fit) and I was trying to read through these post regarding nutrition.. However what is the best nutritional plan to follow?? And what exactly is Paleo??

Edited by: STARLIGHT615 at: 5/16/2012 (17:39)
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There was a video on the journal a few week back filming Gary Taubes talking about his book Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About it. Did anyone see that video? I also heard them talking about it on the radio podcast so I bought the audio book. I've listened to it 3 times so far. It is fantastic and I highly recommend it.

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I do about 90% Paleo. I love meat and veggies so it really isn't hard for me. I'm satisfied and full. But I do have an occassional 'cheat food' usually once a week but then get right back on track. I've lost 8 pounds since going Paleo. To be honest, I'm afraid of totally going back to my old ways -- don't want to do that.

today at work someone brought in bagels and cream cheese. I have been avoiding the kitchen. LOL




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There is a Paleo diet team - they have tons of thoughts and suggestions. I've been on that team for a few months. Very supportive, and there are a handful of members that are fairly active and on almost daily, so you tend to get quick responses.

I personally an trying to start paleo and I use this site still to track my foods, helping me track my carbs more than my calories. Although, since I'm trying to lose 20 pounds, I still do watch the calorie intake. I also adjusted my scale for fat, protein, and carbs to be more inline with the paleo lifestyle. If I do it, it does help me stick to the diet, as well as show me where I'm low. (Usually in the veggies department - eating meat and nuts is the easy part for me.)

Good luck!

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Hi I have been doing crossfit for about a year but due to my intake of poor foods have seen an increase in my weight :( I enjoy paleo eating but find it VERY hard to stick to for long amounts of time how do you all use this website with paleo any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated:)

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I'm trying to transition to paleo. I do good for the first few days, then I notice I am slightly nauseous after that, pretty much all day. Has anyone else experienced this? It's enough that I end up eating the foods I shouldn't, because I don't have the nausea. I really want to transition - please tell me this goes away fast and that you have some tips for me!!

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Congrats on getting pregnant!!!

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That's funny, I don't like the zone because I feel that it is too restrictive. I think each person needs to test both and see which works for them, Paleo, is definitely the way for me.

On a different note, I want to share something I experienced several weeks ago. When I found out I was pregnant, I became scared of working out and eating paleo, so what happened when I started eating starches, grains and dairy again? I gained 8 pounds and no that was not from the baby! Anyway, since then I have cleaned up my eating and started CrossFitting again-I havent lost any weight, and I'm not worried about that now, but I have maintained at 138 for the past few weeks. I feel so much better now! Glad I got back on board when I did, otherwise I don't know how I would be feeling for the rest of my pregnancy!

I know this was a little off topic, but it just proved to me how starch and grains have such a negative impact on your body!

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Mastering the Zone is a good book...i borrowed it, read it then bought another one for myself. I cannot do the Paleo because it is much too restrictive for me. The Zone is closer to how I already eat so it was an easier transition for me. I saw results immediately...blew my mind. My performance went through the roof!

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HI,

I am new to cross fit (3 weeks). My trainer suggested picking up mastering the zone. How different is the Zone from the South Beach Plan? Which would you all recommend for someone starting out? I want to make small changes as I have tried to change lots of things at once in the past and have always failed (diet wise). Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Couldn't agree with all of you any more!!!
Paleo has changed my life in so many aspects. People think i am crazy for giving up the foods that i do and constantly ask me what i CAN eat. I say ALOT! Vegetables, fruit, meat, fish, nuts! That leaves alot!
Then there those people who say it is a 'fad diet'. But seeing as i plan on eating like this for the rest of my life, i don't see how that could possibly be a fad diet.
Now that i eat this way, i couldn't imagine eating any other way and i now look at foods i used to eat in a different perspective. Foods i used to find irresistible i now find unappealing.
I think people shouldn't be able to judge us and form opinions of this lifestyle and way of eating unless they try it for themselves and experience what it feels like to eliminate those foods from your diet.

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i completely agree!!

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I love love love Paleo. It's changed my life when I learned about it at Crossfit. The 'general' population thinks I'm crazy for not eating diary, baked goods etc. but they don't understand how much havoc these things play on your system. I feel so much better, more energy and my joint pain has gone away.



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I agree SJCSF00 about paleo. I struggled for about a year to maintain my weight and then started paleo and dropped 8 pounds in 2 months. Had a weigh in yesterday at the gym and am at 20% body fat which is my goal. I like going by percent body fat better than weight as I tend to produce muscle easily and have always been on the high end of a normal weight range because of that. I also found the transition easier because I am gluten free and already had understood how to eat simpler because of that.

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I've been doing CrossFit since late January. My body has definitely changed shape, but the scale was not changing. I started Paleo about 2 weeks ago. In that time I have continued to build muscle and have dropped almost 7 lbs.

I wasn't eating many carbs before, so I didn't find the transition too difficult. I find I have more energy. I feel alert. I eat WAY less than before. In fact, it's difficult to reach my SP calorie goal each day.

Even if you don't do 100% Paleo, I highly recommend it. (I cheat once or twice a week by eating some chocolate or goat cheese.)

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Very helpful, Thank you! Now to put it into action.

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You need both protein and carbs post-workout. The recommendation is a 4:1 ratio of carbs to proteins. Carbs are used by your body to restore muscle glycogen. If your post workout meal doesn't contain carbs, your body may actually instead break down muscle tissue for this same purpose. You avoid fat because it slows down the absorption of the carbs and protein. You want them transported into your muscles as quickly as possible. Time-wise, faster is better. You want to get the meal in within the hour after your workout, preferably in the first 30 mins. Some people even drink a carb-protein shake as they drive away from the gym.

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Amanda- you may have figured it out already but I have heard/read no on the protien drinks via the Whole9 website. But I know plenty of Paleo eaters that do.

A whole different question to you all...

Post-WOD nutrition, I have heard to not eat fats, why? I am in the middle of reading Robb Wolf's book by haven't gotten to post WOD eating and feel like I could be messing it up royaly right now (i.e. eggs & turkey bacon). I am guessing carbs is the answer, if so how soon is it necessary to get that?

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Are protein drinks/supplements allowed on the paleo diet? I don't see these things mentioned anywhere! Thanks!

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Thanks for this post, I'm glad I stumbled upon it. I've seen for myself when I eat zone with a paleo twist the weight comes off....anything else, and I stay stuck. Right now keeping strict so I can make my weigh-in at work. Last few days I made beef and chicken tacos... simple 3 blocks.... 2 corn tortilla 6", 3 oz of chicken or beef split between the two, heat them up, top with salsa. for the 3 blocks of fat either 9 almonds, or when I'm lucky three tablespoons of avocado with some lemon juice.

Currently sticking with 11 blocks.

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OMG I didn't realize how long it's been since I've checked in!!!

NextLevel: How goes eating on that block plan? My personal thoughts on any sort of eating plan is this: Start with what you are ready to change first... and start with small changes and maybe a higher calorie level than you think, and work on moving to where you need to be.

That being said, based on your current goals for /right now/, try to keep as close to the block count as possible. You can tweak it, so if you need more energy after lunch, do 4/5/2/4/1 or if breakfast isn't quite holding you, do 5/4/2/4/1 or whatever... Play with it but try to keep to a max of 5 blocks per meal.

The best thing is to use veggies to fill your carb blocks because it gives you a bigger volume of high fiber food so you'll feel full. But if your body freaks out like mine does once in a while, or you're doing a lot of long duration (over 20 min), high intensity exercise, you'll either need to add in some starch as one of your blocks for one or two meals, or keep the high intensity stuff to a minimum.

Here's where I step on a soap box for a bit.

I think I mentioned it before, but keep in mind that the Zone plan _is_ a calorie restriction plan and Dr. Sears makes no excuses for it - his "ideal" is eating prescribed blocks of paleo food (meat, veggies, nuts, seeds, some fruits, little starch). That may not be very much calorically (usually in the 1200-1500 calorie range for women, 1500-2000 for men). The idea is to give your body _just_ enough to do what it needs to do to achieve optimal health and performance, keep insulin levels under control which, by default, keep inflammation to a minimum, but not enough to support body fat.

The idea of calorie restriction is also supported by research that the body can only handle so much food at once - eating a meal more than, say, 600 calories (just picked that number because I can't remember what Dr. Sears actually said so don't hold me to that ;) of clean, paleo food will produce the same over production of insulin and increase inflammation as much as eating 1/2 a cake. Ok, this is an exaggeration, but you get the point.

The other side of the same coin are folks who say you can eat an unrestricted amount of food, as long as it's from the paleo 'list', and achieve an ideal body weight and awesome health...

Who's right? Both... and neither.

Thing is, if you're needing to lose excess body fat, you need to not only control your calories, but you also need to control the quality of those calories. You're on a budget, so you need to literally make every bite count.

You also need to lose the 'diet' mentality... you know the one that says "I'm just doing this to lose the weight". Intead, look at any way of eating and ask yourself one important question: "Can I see myself still doing this 80% of the time in 1 month? 6 months? a year? 5 years?" If the answer is yes, then you've hit on a winner that will keep you going strong for a lifetime.

That's is also a reason I'm a huge fan of start small, with a looser approach, rather than do drastic cuts in your calories and big restrictions right off the bat. "Induction" phases, in _my_ opinion, may be good for short term fixes, or if you have severe health issues that need addressing _right_ _now_. Otherwise, get yourself used to eating at a 'maintenance' level, then dial it back to get the results you want... this is going to be a long term relationship, take your time to find out how to make it work for _you_ and _your_ life.

There's a great blog article with lots of fabu links that talks about this: sterlingadvice.blogspot.com/2
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And he has another one about developing your own 'buy-in' for making life changes: sterlingadvice.blogspot.com/2
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Also, because I'm a total geek for this kind of stuff, I highly recommend picking up "Mastering the Zone" and also "Protein Power Lifeplan" by Dr. Eades and reading the first part of both books - you know those parts that are all about the science and what food actually does to your body and has nothing to do with the actual eating plan? The part that usually makes people's eyes glaze over when they pickup the book? Yeah, that part... read it and learn _why_ you're making this lifestyle change... and read it any time you feel yourself slipping back to your 'old' ways. :)

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NL- Not sure how to be certain. The zone, I think, was saying that if you see your abs too clearly then you need to up your intake of fat....

Personally, I imagine hunger, fatigue, listlessness, language stumbles, forgetfulness, and moody reactions can all be signs that I need something different in my diet. For instance, I went vegetarian for a month Apr-May. By week four I'd get into a wod and the first minute of something would be good then I'd feel like molasses. I'd get in a protein drink and boom- I'd be fine. Recently, to prep a "clean" kitchen for this paleo challenge, I'd eat potatoes, noodles, bread WAY out of proportion for my "normal." I felt POISONED!!!! It was awful...dragging everywhere, listless, can't think and say the same thought three times in a row. UGH! The last three days have been much better. I made it throught the wod w/great gusto- but afterwards felt much like an idiot as I'd wander through the grocery store, passing items on my list, not hearing my daughter tell me to pick it up...OY! After I ate a meal it seems like my brain came back, but I still made three wrong turns driving my kids in the evening =-).


Anyhow- I really want everyone to know that I have started to get a "CSA" box each week. CSA means community supported agriculture. It is a locally grown, organic box of fruits and vegetables. This has made on of the biggest simplifications of my life! I have plenty of produce to last me a week. When I decide what to cook it makes half the choice for me as it provides the main ingredients! If I focus on using them up before branching into a pizza, spaghetti, or other comfort food/previous staple- I eat WAY healthier! I even started to get our meats straight from local farmers who care for the animals individually, give them proper range, and have them grass fed and finished. AWESOME!!! Plus, now I only have to shop 1/10 AND I have SO MUCH less stuff cluttering my kitchen =-)!!!

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LR - Your comment leads to a question for me: How do I know what body type I am? I'm assuming for now that I am a 'small male' and am eating 4/4/2/4/2 based on the CF Journal article. I'm going to track my progress and see how I do, based on my goals of overall weight loss and body composition. How do you know if you need more calories?

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Abby - depends on what's in the nutty bars and what your overall nutrient makeup is. There's a few ways of looking at it: Meal by meal breakdown or overall totals.

Ideally, each meal/snack should be the 'correct' ratio of carbs/protein/fat so your insulin level stays stable, but you can also aim for having your overall daily intake to be in the 40% C/30% P/30% F range.

I think the CF Journal article touches on it, but what a lot of the CF athletes do is have their "prescribed" blocks of carbs & protien and do 2-6x the fat blocks because fat not only makes up calories that you may need, but also doesn't trigger an insulin response. (I know, way more than you asked for, but it's how I roll. ;)

Next, glad it helped! Thanks for reposting the link.

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Ladyrose - thanks for the tip on the article. It's a winner. Straight to the point - the basics of eating a zone-compatible diet. The article clarifies right at the outset that there isn't going to be any theory - just practical advice on how to construct the meal plans.

For those of you interested, I'll repost the link here for your convenience: library.crossfit.com/free/pdf/cfjiss
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I am Read this right. My eating nutty bars is not healthy or on the zone diet? Mad I thought I was doing so good too. emoticon emoticon

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Next - there's a link down in one of the first messages on this thread to the CF Journal article that's a very simplified breakdown of what you need to know.

Also, if you can pick up "Mastering The Zone" at the library it's really helpful - just skip all the science stuff unless you're geeky like that (and like me. :)

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Can anyone point me in the direction of some good online zone resources?

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I know, it's just silly talk on my part, Angie. LOL! ;)

Think I mentioned it before but the Saving Dinner cookbooks and menu mailer (esp the Low Carb one) have made life soooo much easier for me. It has the shopping list, side dish suggestions, and recipes. LUBS it!

I still eat basically the same breakfast every day and I rotate through the same 3 options for snacks, and I bring dinner left overs for lunch, so basically I eat about the same thing every day. Boring-ish but reliable, tasty and satisfying. :)

This week has been less than stellar overall for me - been super tired and the hubby came home Monday which threw my schedule off a bit.

The funny thing is, my current 'less than stellar' way of eating /used/ to be what I would have considered a 'on target, super healthy' way of eating a few years ago! It's all a matter of perspective I guess. ;)

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Steph - lose the "all or nothing thinking?" WHAT? If I did that, I would have nothing left to cling to. hahahaha...just kidding. I know that I tend to do that. I'm a little OCD/type-A, believe it or not. hee

Eating has been ok the last few days. Not perfect, but not as horrible as it used to be. Ended up having a gain of 0.4 on Monday night but that was because I had a little binge session late Sunday night.

I'm moving forward though. Today seemed like the between meal hunger was better! I do feel like I've got more energy because I've been getting antsy at night. Haven't been on here because I've been busy cleaning and studying for finals.

One of my problems is needing to find time to sit down and find recipes! I'm eating the same 5-6 meals and that will get old soon, so I need to get ready so I don't revert back to old habits.

How is everyone else doing?

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Rose, for about 3-4 weeks a few months ago I cut out alot of the bread I was eating. On non-class days I'd normally eat a sandwich w/ 2 slices of bread. I first ate 1 slice w/ my sandwich. A week later I made it into a salad, no bread.
I hadn't cut out my morning cereal/oatmeal so that might have made the difference...but with just cutting the bread out I didn't see any difference at all...in the scale, inches or how my clothes fit. So, I didn't have enough motivation from that to continue cutting out the bread or to even cut out the cereal/oatmeal grains...
In a typical day...I eat cereal in the morning (1 serving of kashi crunch) and 2 slices of bread with sandwiches at lunch...that pretty much sums of my grain for the day unless something unexpected happens like my mom decided to bring home subway and stuff.
This is much less than what I used to eat 100+ pounds ago because at dinner I'd eat stuff my mom made like stuffing, noodles, mac & cheese ect. But that was processed plus not whole wheat, so I no longer eat it at all.

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Angie - Really need to ditch the all-or-nothing thinking. Life happens: Plan for what you have control over and do the best you can the rest of the times, and be nice to yourself when things go wonky.

And think *I* would have had more than 4 morels! Those are super rare - enjoy while they last.

Dag - I know what you mean. It took me a long time to get to where I am now and where I can see the value of limiting/eliminating my intake grainy goodness. For me where I am now, it makes me feel a TON better. For others, it may not work so well.

And the funny thing, when I first tried the Zone, I was the same: Too much meat! Realizing now that it's because I was filling up on pasta/rice/bread and left little room for protein.

Now, I look at my plate and it's 2/3 veggies, 1/3 meat (only about 3 oz) which really isn't a lot.

I'm not trying to rationalize or talk you into it, just sharing that it's all about perspective. The best thing to do is to get a good foundation of eating low to no processed foods and planning your food first, then tweaking it when you're ready so it gives you the best performance and physique possible. :)

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Great idea for a post!
ok, so I have read about the primal and the zones diets and they just don't see for me though...I really do not like much meat at all. I often eat fish, tuna, salmon, sometimes turkey and sometimes eggs...I am picky when it comes to meat. So, I can't see myself on a meat-centered diet.
Furthermore, I love my bread and cereal and oatmeal...will not give those up! And I love my milk...lol

But...I am interested in eating more "clean" or basically LESS processed items...and MORE veggies! emoticon

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Didn't do so hot tonight. My sister called and she had a mess of fried mushrooms (morels that are found in the woods only at this time of the year - very short window of opportunity for them...in case you aren't familiar) and wanted to share some. Since I only have them once a year - if that (it depends on how plentiful or how scarce they are) - I caved and had 4 of them. OMG...yummmmmmmy!

Also, my dinner plans that I had went out the window because of scheduling issues and getting there later than we should, etc. We had Taco Bell instead. I did not eat in the Zone at all. But I didn't go overboard either.

Tomorrow is a new day and a great opportunity to start fresh! Weekends will present new challenges since I will be home and have food more readily accessible.

We'll see how this goes!

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YAY Angie! YOU RULE!!! That scale can't tell you how awesome you are, only how much gravity is pulling on you at that moment. ;)

And you are stronger than you think, darlin'... You are making positive changes and as you commented to my blog yesterday, you're doing stuff that you NEVER thought you'd do! So Giving up the Dew today or next week will happen when YOU are ready to take a stand for YOUR healthy future.

Remember: You're getting rid of the food clutter to clear the way for a rockin' energetic healthy life ahead of you where you'll be using your great-grandkids to do kettlebell swings. ;)

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If I don't get rid of the Dew now, I might not be able to late. I've been working up to this anyway and yesterday I drank my last one (I only have 1 in the morning), so today seemed like a good day to quit.

My weigh in is with my TOPS (Take Off Pounds Sensibly) weight loss support group. I'm the Weight Recorder and the rule is, if you don't weigh, you don't stay...so I kinda have to. And to answer your question, yes, I'm strong enough to deal. I've seen so many bizarre things over the last few years with the scale that nothing surprises me. I won't give up after less than a week!

Semi-related note: I always greet my TOPS ladies by name and ask how they are doing. A lot of them will grumble and say, "I'll tell you after I see what the scale says." and I always reply, "Do NOT let that number dictate your mood. You are not defined by a number on a scale." I try to follow my own advice. emoticon Some days it's easier than others.

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{{hugs!}}

1) BABY STEPS! If you feel the need to cut the Dew today, that's fine, but if you're just not quite up to it, do it next week. Too many changes at once can run the risk of being counter productive, so focus on what you can handle right now, and make other changes later... seriously, you've had how many years of your previous lifestyle? Think it's all going to go away overnight? ;)

2) Focus on protein first, veggies, second, and everything else third at the resturaunt. Order a meat type appetizer and a side salad or (depending on where you go) order off the kids menu (I've done it many times - usually helps if you have a friendly wait person)

Have you been there before and/or is there a menu online? Choose now before you get there and be content knowing you're feeding yourself the best you can.

3) A very wise man (my dad ;) once told me something that helped him when he was quitting smoking: The craving will pass if you give in or not.

Your body & inner brat are rebelling to the changes. Acknowledge them, look at the photo of Nicole's abs, take a deep breath and move forward. ;)

4) Would it be possible to not look at the scale on Monday or even skip the scale? At this point it may or may not show a change. The question that only you can answer is: are you emotionally strong enough to keep focused if it shows the same number or (heaven forbid) a higher one?

Your trainer sounds like a reasonable person - maybe explain that you need time away from the scale to focus on other measures like your mood, energy, strength, and how the clothes are fitting.

HUGS!!

YOU CAN DO IT!!!

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Woo, go Steph! That is awesome and encouraging! The first two days were good but I'm really fighting cravings today. Today is also the day that I cut out my beloved Diet Mt. Dew. Not sure if the two are connected or what, but I'm wanting all sorts of greasy fast foods. WILL. NOT. CAVE!

Tonight I know we will be away from home for dinner and I'll have to contend with a restaurant, but I sent out an SOS to my trainer (since he knows the restaurant we're going to) and I will follow his instructions.

I'm a little afraid that after trying this, the scales will show nothing on Monday night. I hope that isn't the case, but we'll see. I'm trying so hard and I really want to see the scale pop up a smaller number...but I guess whatever will be will be. I'm doing what I can to make it happen!

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So, Angie...(and anyone else, of course ;) Just wanted to give you a bit of motivation for sticking to it.

This week, being about 80% compliant to eating Zone-ish... lost 1.2 pounds... pretty sure most of it's all fat, too, though I haven't done measurements.

Thing is, this week I only did 2 workouts, had a couple adult beverages, and it's that 'time'. I felt fabu and most days couldn't finish my meal because I was stuffed.

So... if *I* can get a drop in the scale, YOU can... just gotta stick to it.

Remember - Success begins and ends in the kitchen!

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The hubby and I are currently eating Primal/Paleo most of the time and its working really well. We prepare a lot of our food in advance and it makes it easier to get through the busy work weeks. We cook a bunch of chicken, pork, turkey and steak (or whatever meat we want) and prep all of our fruits and veggies so they're easy to grab. All that prep totally makes getting through the busy days easier, and that helps us stay on track.

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one more thing... (since some times you can't shut me up. ;) You asked about tips/tricks:

It's old and boring advice but it works: If you have extra time on the weekend or 1-2 nights during the week, do a lot of chop/prep work to make life easy. If you don't have a big block of time, do a little bit each night.

I like to get all my salad veggies done at once and put them in a big container when they're chopped/shredded: Carrots, tomatoes, cukes, jicima, mushrooms, onions, peppers, whatever. I get the huge thing of baby greens at Sams/Costco and it's so easy to throw lettuce and a bunch of veggies in a container for lunch or on my plate for dinner.

Cook extra - this may seem like a no brainer, but a concept that took me a while to 'get'. Steam/roast a HUGE ammount of veggies at once - it doesn't take any longer to cook 6 servings of broccoli, sweet potoatoes, green beans, etc., than it does 2-4. Hard boiling enough eggs for 3-4 days of snacks or additions to salad. Throw an extra couple chicken breasts/pork chops/etc., on the grill/cook top for snacks/salad/sandwichs (and when you're only having a serving of 3 oz, you'll be amazed at how little meat you need to cook!)

Use your crock pot! Chicken breasts can be shredded for tacos or chicken salad. Pork roast can be turned into carnitas or pulled pork.

And my one tip that has been a true lifesaver for me: www.savingdinner.com I've subscribed to the menu mailer for several years and honestly, it's paid for itself many times over! The "low carb/body clutter" menu is awesome for paleo-ish (she uses dairy) Zone eating, just adjust the serving of protein to meet your needs and OMG are the recipes tasty! The best part is the fact she does the shopping list for you! LOVE it!

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Abby: The great thing is that the CF Journal is FREE and has some ideas for meals. library.crossfit.com/free/pdf
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(though I gotta admit that the food photo is /really/ unappealing... ;)

Also, I'd recommend "Mastering the Zone" (avail at the library) and skip all the science-y stuff. Unless you're a total geek like me, it will make your eyes glaze (and it made mine glaze several times)

For pre/post workout - I don't really count it amongst my 'blocks' but it does work out to about 1 each. For pre: I do a bit of uncooked rolled oats, protein powder, BCAA powder, a smidge of sucanat sugar (Cuz the BCAA taste like a$$!) and mix it with unsweetened applesauce. Post: I do the same only mix with plain yogurt instead of applesauce & granola instead of the oats. (and of course there's coffee involved as well. :)

I can give exact measurements if any one cares.

I do roughly 3 3-block meals and up to 2-block snacks, though lately I've been tweaking things. I do best with more protein and fat (and it's a VERY happy thing for hypo-thyroid/fibro) and a little less carbs so it's more like 2-blocks of carbs, 3 blocks of protein, and 6 blocks of fat which seems to mke my system very happy overall.

Angie - it will get easier! Promise! Remember, you're trying to integrate a new way of doing things (ie habit) into your life and that's not easy. Just focusing on finding the types of food that keep you feeling energized and fuller longer.

Go through the process of planning, measuring and writing things down and stay focused. Make it work FOR you and your life. It will feel like a full time job at first, but eventually it WILL click in.

And when you hear the siren call of the drive through, just think of Nicole's abs... and keep on driving.

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Tim- that sounds like a good plan in the morning.

I'm interested in knowing more about the zone diet but I don't want to pay for an eating plan.

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Glad to see there is a topic started for this.

I am wondering if/what I should be eating before my 5:30am workouts? Obviously I don't have much time at that hour of the day, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I usually have a protein shake (some protein powder mixed with Almond Milk and cold coffee). When I get home I make breakfast.

Thanks in advance,
Tim

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Sweet! Thanks, Cujo!

Ok, I'm on Day 2 of the Zone and it's going much better than yesterday. I'm 11 blocks and was doing 3 breakfast/lunch/dinner and 2 1-block snacks. The wait between breakfast and lunch was a very, very hungry wait yesterday. And to be sure I didn't stray from my plan, I didn't bring anything but what I needed!

It was suggested to add a 1-block snack in between the two, so I did that today and it was much better. I just can't wait for this to become second nature because I spend quite a bit of time each night, planning out my food for the next day - and then, of course, preparing it! It will come.

I'd love to hear meal/snack ideas that the rest of you have incorporated into your routines. Any special tips/tricks to share?

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Jump on in if you have questions, want opinions, or want to leave your opinions on the best way to feed the machine while doing your CrossFit thing.

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