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8/23/13 8:03 P

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That last job sounds like a good place to leave. I hate office drama.

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The only one I had the retaliation because of my health was the last one that fired me because I had cancer (and I was 2 years in remission by then, trying to go back to working). Now I just cannot control the IBS enough to trust making it to the bathroom or to work in time. I thought of doing delivery so that I could keep things with me and would be able to stop places if I needed to, but my truck is having problems now so I can't do that. The one place I might be able to go the lady isn't sure she wants to hire anyone.

The case where I had to prove the employer was a liar, the representative for the employer got my fired by her lies. She did that every chance she got to people and also threw things at people all the time and yelled cuss words that the other people were blamed for.

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8/23/13 1:31 P

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Can you tell your employer about your IBS and not worry about retaliation? I know one of my supervisors didn't know until she told me I was taking too long bathroom breaks. After I told her she didn't give me any more crap.

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8/23/13 9:14 A

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Oh good - glad you had the proof when you needed it!!
Hope that works for you. With IBS it is so much trial and error. And it can be so discouraging at times. Keep trying different things till you find acombination that will work for you. For me it was a very mild anti-diarrhea medicine that I would take half a dose every day for a couple of weeks at a time, off a few days and then back on. Now I'm finding changing my portion sizes and losing weight is working to where I seldom need the medicine. But it does still flare up, with no warning. Makes me scared to go anywhere because it is so unpredictable, I have no warning when it hits. I'm just happy my flareups are less often now.

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8/22/13 8:36 P

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I don't think you stepped on any toes. It might not be as hard in other states. In Colorado they are allowed to fire you if you just wear a color shoes they don't like and get away with it. The unemployment people listen to the employer, not the former employee. I had to prove that the employer was known for lying one time because the unemployment person just told me to "shut up" and wouldn't let me talk at all. Fortunately, I did have the proof. I also had the proof that I was doing the work.

I wish I knew what would always work for me on the IBS. Maybe I will get some Papaya and do something to remember it every day (maybe I can stick it in with my Lisinopril since they look different. My doctor tried giving me something, but it made matters worse, so I quit taking it right away. Just as well, because they found out it causes a lot of other problems that I don't want to get. If I can get the Papaya to work maybe I can find a part time job, though. It is worth a try.

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8/22/13 6:42 P

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Bummer - corporates know how to get around things - just say you aren't doing your job sufficiently. Therefore it's not because of medical reasons (even though it really is)... Don't know there is much you can do in that case. If you get a lawyer make sure it's one who is very knowledgeable with corporate lawyers and their tricks. A consultation could advise you on what steps you can take to protect yourself if anything like that is starting to happen to you. Most (not all) companies do have reviews and disciplinary actions they take before they can fire you. If you have an employees advocate or union advocate??? they might be able to advise you as well if you haven't already checked that out. In the meantime - hang in there. Do you have some medication to help? I'm new so I hope I haven't stepped over any boundaries here. I know I had medication for awhile that helped a lot. Then found some over-the-counter stuff that worked just as good for me.

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8/22/13 4:40 P

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I know of a couple people who were fired for medical reasons. It didn't matter that they had doctor's letters. They were not from IBS problems. One was because she had a heart attack and the other because she had problems with her diabetes. Both of them the people who fired them said that they would put down it was because they were not doing their work. I don't know what happened to the one, who last I heard was about to lose her place to live and everything and could not even find a part time job. The other one gets VA widows benefits and takes care of her grandchildren. She doesn't get paid. All the business owners have to do is say that you weren't doing your job and they will get away with it. Very few win against the businesses.

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8/22/13 1:49 P

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If you get a statement from your dr stating your medical condition on file and your need to go to the restroom often that should pretty much tie their hands from any disciplinary actions against you and if it doesn't, it'll give the lawyer something solid to work with. If they know there is a problem - they have to make exceptions. I know that in places where I used to work (I'm retired now) they had to make exceptions from time to time for people with special medical needs but only could if there was a dr's note or special form filled out. See your human relations or employee relations dept to see what you would need.

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7/27/13 9:34 P

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I would talk to my lawyer. My bowel movements are due to a medical condition. You cannot penalize people for going an arbitrary number of times during the day. How do they determine the allowable number?

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I haven't worked at any of the places, though my last job depended on how much you got done in an hour (and I was able to make it to rhe restrooms then), but there are many places that I have heard monitor how many times you go. I had worked with a lady who went to work for Blue Cross and they had to sign in and out to go to the restroom and then would get penalized or fired if they went too often. That would be really hard to deal with. What would you do if you worked somewhere like that?

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I work in a Deli at Wal*Mart and those who get their meat and cheese there know that there usually isn't a lot of people back there. So our deli is fairly close knit so they know about my stomach and bowel problems. So if I have to go, they don't even ask questions they'll cover for me and let me go. If I take too long they'll ask if I'm ok and we joke about it, which is nice. They know when I'm not feeling good and some even help me go back through my day to see if it's something I ate or if I took my medication. One of the women I work with has crohn's disease. I mostly talk to her because I know she understands waaaaay more than the others, even though I don't like complaining to her because I know hers is much worse. So that's pretty much how I end up dealing with it. haha

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7/21/13 5:53 P

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I've been on a low carb diet, and my stomach is feeling pretty good except on the days when I cheat and eat a lot of carbs. I may be gluten intolerant, but since I'm only eating meat and leafy veggies, it's hard to tell. Yesterday I went to Chipolte and went *way* off my diet and my stomach was killing me. I came home and threw up. I just felt nasty all day. Now I'm back on my diet and not having as much problems.

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7/21/13 12:40 A

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I work in an office with a single toilet for women. Grrr the ONLY thing that works for my big D is lomotil. Nothing over the counter worked. Always talk to your doctor about it as well (the gi dr not the general practitioner). I was taking magnesium for migraines (gp saw no problem with it) only to find out that it MAKES you go, so my gi told me that unless I'm in full remission stay away from magnesium & Epsom salts.

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I had my food allergies relieved with Advanced Allergy Therapeutics so I rarely have problems at work anymore. See my post under IBS-D and SOOOO hungry for more details.

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When I was employed, I had the same issues with the bathroom. Other ladies would come and go while I was waiting for it to be vacant so I could do my business. The bathroom that no one goes to would be my choice. I remember taking extra underwear, Tucks, etc. when I worked. Stress was a big factor at work for me. That definitely brought on the D. I am glad that you mentioned papaya extract. I will give it a try.

I am also curious about gluten free foods. I have heard pros and cons for people like us with the IBS issues.

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7/15/13 12:21 P

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After last night I am thinking maybe gluten cause some of my problems, but it isn't the D, but bloating and gas. I was trying to think how to go gluten free, but I don't think I can get all the way there. I often eat bread without a problem. I think that maybe the amounts may be the link there. Yesterday we had a meeting after church and had large rolls for sandwiches. I only used half my roll and was fine during the afternoon, but ate the other half at dinner and really ended up with problems. But I got some peanut butter the other day and don't know how I will eat it without bread or crackers or something. I might be able to do a little celery with peanut butter, but I have problems eating celery.

IBS is definitely a pain in the butt!

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7/15/13 12:13 P

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I will give the gluten more thought and talk to the doctor!! I didn't realize!
Thanks!

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Oh I know what you mean! I know where every bathroom is in every store and restaurant around!! And if I don't I find out before doing anything!
I have even used the mens room at a theatre because the womens restroom line was too long. I told my girlfriend keep watch I'm goin in!
I'm the same way to as it's hard to hold down a job with these issues because they don't understand when you call in with your stomach bothering. I've heard "AGAIN?" many times plus I get migraines. They surely think I'm making it up.
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7/15/13 11:59 A

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I have used the papaya before, but I keep forgetting about it. (I wish I could keep things in my mind). It worked for me. I had problems at work several years ago that went for 2 weeks straight until I went to Vitamin Cottage and asked their advise (they are a Colorado store).

My problem is actually getting to a restroom anymore, which is why I haven't been able to go back to work. I wish I could at least do something part time so I could get bills paid. The problem also makes it really hard to get exercise since I can't leave the house without a problem sometimes. If I am out and the restroom has a line, people can usually tell how bad things are and will let me get in in front of them. It is awfully embarrassing, though, and I often end up in tears.

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Gluten free is HARD! Good luck! It may make you feel better, I don't think it did much good for me. I have RA and after doing some research, I found out that a diet free of gluten and dairy could help maintain remission for longer stretches of time because they're natural inflammatory agents... I was GF and DF for about 4 weeks and after going to my Dr and having some tests run he said I was almost to the point of malnutrition and I needed to start incorporating those things back into my diet. I suggest talking to your Dr before going 100% GF. Even though I'm not 100% GF anymore, I do still try to limit the amounts of wheat in my diet. Maybe just 1 serving for the day and then I try to incorporate other grains like rice, corn and quinoa. I hope it helps you! Good luck and add me as a friend if you wanna let me know how it's going in the future!

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Wow! I have never heard of them! Thanks! Will definitely give them a try.

Oh Yes!! You need to restock your supplies. It's very sad - All of my bathrooms, my nightstands, purse, and kitchen cabinet have tums, pepto, and alka-seltzer!

I am like you it seems no matter what I eat I have problems!!
Heck I can have problems and I haven't even eaten!! Mornings are the worst!

One thing I recently found out.... I just had my colonoscopy. I found out that I have a "tolerant redundant colon" which means it's longer than normal and has 3 extra kinks in it. It is very common, many people have it. But what is interesting is mostly all of people with it have IBS or crohns. I was tested for crohns which I don't have.

Here is another thing I'm going to look into. I was at the store and bought a magazine because it has an article that talks about gluten. I have a "niece" (married to my nephew) who has celiac. I also was tested for that and do not have. But the article states people that are blood tested for celiac and come up negative doesn't mean they aren't gluten sensitive. My husband is convinced because of the foods that do seem to give me problems.
It's interesting... I ALWAYS get sick in the morning IF I eat breakfast which I usually don't because of getting sick.
Anyhow... this morning at 8AM I had a hard boiled egg and a banana. So far no problem. When I do eat something in the morning it's often times cereal, toast or bread of some kind. Perhaps there is something to it! I am going to try to watch everything for the week and see how it goes.
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Hi Beni! Thanks for the support. I seems like no matter what I eat, I've got this problem. I keep forgetting to restock the tums... Those work for me most of the time. A healthier and more natural alternative to tums (if you're interested) is Papaya Extract. It's a (yummy) chewable suppliment that is known to help calm and "bubbly" gut! I take 4 when I'm feeling blah and it usually works unless it's a REALLY bad day. Then I'm just stuck!

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I hate to say the only way I deal with it whether it was at work or it's around company....
Tums, pepto and water in between. Tums and pepto are the only things that seem to help calm it quickly.
Sorry, we all know what you are going through and feel your pain.
Careful what you eat!!!
Feel better!!!
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Good Monday Morning All!!
I was wondering; how do you deal with IBS-D symptoms at work? It's embarassing to say the least but there isn't much we can do about it. Any tips or tricks from people who work in an office with a "shared" bathroom? My office has a bathroom with 2 stalls and I work with a lot of women. It seems like the place is never empty for me to... you know... Luckily there is a bathroom on the 1st floor that people almost NEVER use. I don't know what I would do if I had to "go" with 1 or more of my co-workers listening... What do ya'll think?

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