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2/5/13 11:04 A

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I say again, for emphasis, BOTH.

"Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use."

~ Earl Nightingale


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9/20/12 10:46 P

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Both.

"Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use."

~ Earl Nightingale


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9/17/12 2:40 P

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I love cardio but stuck at a plateau for 4 months. So i added jillian michaels 30 day shred three times a week (which is circuit training) Its short and as easy or as hard as you make it. Busted thru my plateau:)

Edited by: VEGAS2010 at: 9/17/2012 (14:42)
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7/6/12 9:09 A

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Lately, I've been using my Wii for cardio, specifically the game Exerbeat, which does get the heart pumping. Give it a try!

"Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use."

~ Earl Nightingale


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6/10/12 9:37 P

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Kettlebell training is strength training AND cardio.

Just thought I'd share that...

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"The most effective fitness workout is the one you do!"

"In 10 sessions you'll feel the difference, in 20 sessions you'll see the difference, and in 30 sessions you'll have a different body"- Joseph Pilates, on his training method

30 to 90 mins of cardio and strength/resistance, 5 days/wk

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4/17/12 9:55 A

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If you like stairs, find an outdoor staircase if you can, and do reps... I live in DC, and started on the exorcist stairs in Georgetown (the long steep staircase at the end of the movie), but found a longer one right near my home... I do 15 reps taking the steps two at a time (walking, not running), which takes about an hour (90 steps in one full flight)... and is a terrific workout.... and, I'm outside instead of in a gym, which for me makes all the difference.

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3/5/12 9:06 A

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There's a lot of great advice here...thanks for the discussion.

(P.S. - I LOVE ST and don't love cardio, so I have to bargain with myself sometimes to get my cardio in. I have not found anything (except for step training) that does not bore me to tears.)

"Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use."

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11/16/09 7:04 P

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OK. I think what you're recommending depends on a person's body type. Doing mostly strength training for weight-loss is absolutely redundant for my body. I've tried it and achieved a bigger waist, wider back, and thicker thighs (not muscled, just bulkier). Lots of cardio with Higher Intensity Interval Training incorporating brisk strength training is what's been working amazingly for me.

As to the article you read concerning the amount of time spent exercising... It's very odd. The American Heart Association and The American College of Sports Medicine, just to name a few medical organizations, encourage exercising for at least 60-90 minutes. I usually exercise for about 90-120 minutes at a time and not only do I feel great afterwards, but I've lowered my blood pressure by 15 points, my at rest heart rate is around 65 beats per minute (was up around 88 before) and my endurance is unbelievable. When concentrating on weight-loss, I burn about 4,500 calories a week and tend to lose about 2-3 pounds a week. Sometimes I taper the weight-loss off to allow my skin to catch up (the gaunt and saggy look isn't that desirable).

Tom Venuto, a well-known and highly respected bodybuilder, personal trainer, nutritionist and author of "Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle":

"Fat loss programs that are based entirely on calisthenic, aerobic or body weight exercise are popular today, but I recommend a 4-element model:
1. Nutrition
2. Weight training
3. Cardio training (low/moderate and intense)
4. Mental training (mindset and motivation)
For total fitness and physique development - muscle, strength, conditioning and leanness, combine weights with cardio… Judiciously balance hare-like intensity with recovery… AND do it all with tortoise-like consistency… Then, watch what happens to your body. You will like it! Train hard and expect success"

In the end though, it's up to each person how they exercise and how they want their body to look.

You've only one life and one body. You really can't find the time for your body? Really?! -From me to myself

"TO MOVE THE WORLD, WE MUST FIRST MOVE OURSELVES." -Socrates


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11/12/09 3:13 A

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Thanks for the replies!

This is basically what I've been thinking, that the basic concept makes a lot of sense, but that we still need to make sure we're overall burning enough calories, and that's just harder with strength training alone.
Plus there are loads of benefits to cardio that stretch beyond just weight loss.

Much of the cardio I do though is more strength based as I do a lot off Wii workouts and then tend to, from my experience at least, be more about strength that really getting your heart rate up - though they do make you sweat if you put in 100%!
It's those gym sessions when I do my strength training (30mins or so) then hop on the treadmill to burn 400kcals that kill me, mainly with BOREDOM! ::laughs::

I also read somewhere else that you shouldn't exercise for more than 45mins at a time as it's a waste, so it's definitely making me think that my current gym sessions (15min fast walk to gym as a warmup, 30mins-ish strength training, 50mins-ish on the treadmill, 15mins medium walk home as cooldown) might be a mistake. They might be doing more harm than good, or just be a waste of time!

If I could do what that article I posted before suggests, that is throw in 10mins of cardio after my strength training, then have a couple of days a week when I do more cardio, I personally think I'd enjoy my exercise routine more.
I already plan to change my strength routine from full body to specific parts daily, as this will allow me to get more exercises for a specific body part in one session, as well as strength train every day.

Still it stands that to burn 500kcals a day with a regime like this, you've got to be much more dilligent with your fitness. For me, it's easy enough to get 500kcals a day focusing more on strength training, but the problem lies in getting MORE than that. If you don't burn more than that, you've got to workout 7 days a week.
I've always found my 400kcal treadmill sessions at least 3 times a week to be an easy (hah!) way to get my calories burned up enough so that I can have days when I just do the wii and leave it at all. But honestly, I hate it and therefore wonder how long I'll be able to keep it up once the burning motivation kicks in - I'm sure you all know what I mean!

I'm starting to think I might cycle it.
Do a couple of weeks where I'm balancing cardio and strength with those lovely hour long sessions doing cardio, then do a couple of weeks where I drop the cardio down to smaller amounts and up the strength training.
See what happens!

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11/11/09 4:34 P

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I've heard both ways. Here's my take, ST is great because you can retain your muscle mass, cardio has the better calorie burn so in a perfect world you'd do both plus cut calories to maintain a decent deficit. In reality we do what keeps us going. If you dread getting out of bed for that 5K then you will stop doing anything before to long. KWIM

I think if you ST exclusively even with circuit then you have to be more diligent with your calories but you get a better package in the end. But you have to do what you will CONTINUE to do.

~CB

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. "
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11/11/09 10:58 A

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The more muscle you have the more calories your body burns day in and day out b/c muscle burns more than fat.

So if you can maintain or increase your muscle mass while losing weight (a lot of people say you can't gain muscle while losing weight - so really a good goal is to maintain and strengthen your muscles), then your body will continue to burn similar calories while you lose weight.

A big problem for dieters is that they lose muscle mass while they are losing weight. This causes the # of calories your body burns to decrease, so you have to keep lowering your intake or increasing your burn.

Also lifting weight has a much longer after burn than cardio. So you might not burn as many calories when you are doing the exercise, but you will continue to burn calories for hours after you finish lifting.

So yes I think the article makes a lot of sense. Now we just need to put it into action :)

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11/11/09 10:41 A

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Hi everyone!
Hope you're all burning lots of calories! I know I am (and feeling quite exhausted as a result! ::laughs::)

Just the other day I read this article, www.bodybuildingforyou.com/articles-
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bmit/lynn-vandyke/cardio-vs-strengthR>-training.html
, which basically says that the key to increasing your metabolism, burning fat, and sustaining long term weight loss is strength training.

Now, I know that strength training is important and I do incorporate it into my exercise regime. In fact, I do a lot of Wii EA Active Personal Trainer for my cardio, which is basically a circuit training type pattern boucing from cardio to strength.
I also know that weight loss is a simple (yet at the same time not) case of creating a calorie deficit by burning more than you put in, whether this be through exercise of diet. And of course, cardio burns more calories in general and so is more efficient at getting those calories burned.

However this article certainly has me wondering, and I wonder if anyone else has any opinions?
I actually personally HATE cardio. Everything I've tried I either hate from the start, or enjoy for a little while (as in a day or 2) but then hate. It's just BORING. I do it because I have to.
Strength training though really feels like I'm doing something. I can push myself, and for some reason I enjoy it (as much as one can enjoy exercise as an exercise hater! ::laughs::).
So I do wonder if there's any truth to an article like this, as I'd certainly be happy to cut my cardio down a bit and up my strength training!!

Thanks!

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