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BRAVAH
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5/19/11 5:32 A

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Thanks, Oliver.

Reducing sugar is a pretty good thing, but I don't eat a lot of sugar to begin with. I do have several sparkfriends who could benefit from it, though, so I might pass along that podcast. Thanks.

And yes, it was great to achieve that goal for my wedding, but then awful to regain all the weight and more! I hadn't changed my lifestyle. I had just lost weight quickly for my wedding. I'm still glad I did it, as I was able to have the beautiful wedding I wanted and look okay in the pictures. But I was an unhealthy person at the time, just putting a bandaid on it for a brief period of time. I am now in a healthy BMI, which is awesome. I have about 20+ vanity pounds I'd like to get rid of, but they are much less important than when I was obese and really needed to change my lifestyle.

Cheers,
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5/19/11 4:26 A

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Heidi, It's very interesting what you write!

Then I really stick to my normal carb eating habits, as the SP nutrition feedback advises.

I just listened to this podcast on reducing sugar intake in general, sounds interesting.

nutritiondiva.quickanddirtytips.com/how-to
-reduce-your-added-sugar-intake.aspx


Must have been great to achieve the goal for your wedding day, independently from the diet program!

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5/18/11 7:33 A

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Oliver (and anyone else interested),

I did the South Beach diet in 2004, which is low carb - not as restrictive as something like Atkins. I did some research into low carb/no carb diets and discussed the differences with my doctor. She was completely against diets that get rid of carbs altogether, as was I.

I went from 185 to 155 for my wedding. I have zero regrets, as I did not want to be fat in my wedding pictures. I felt deprived, but it was worth it. Looking back, would I do it again for an event such as a wedding? Maybe. Looking forward, would I do it again now? DEFINITELY NOT!

I have to say that at our destination wedding, I started letting go of my carb restrictions immediately. I easily gained 5-10 during the wedding/honeymoon, and just kept gaining after that. I gained, and gained, and gained. I got all the way up to 212 pounds before I was able to get control of myself again. I am not saying that was due to the carb restrictions - obviously not. But the initial weight gain when I stopped restricting carbs was significant.

It works for some people to restrict carbs. It doesn't work for me. Everyone has different cravings, different weaknesses, and different dietary needs. Carbs are important. But not overeating them is also a good thing to moniter.

Cheers,
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5/17/11 4:01 P

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Interesting what you write about low carb. I tried that before, and lost some kilos, but looking back, it was not a wise thing to do. In all the articles here in SP, I read that carbs are important both for exercise and mental activity.

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5/17/11 5:20 A

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I agree, Oliver. I think that everyone's dietary needs are different, and that you need to figure out what your needs are and read labels to find things that fit in with your goals. I focus a little on keeping my calories down, but I also tend to eat low fat. Some people watch carbs. If I lower my carbs, I get a little crazy, so that doesn't work for me. Crazy, as in I feel deprived and then end up bingeing on them later. Good luck to everyone in the group for finding what works for you!

Cheers,
Heidi

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5/16/11 12:27 P

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@Akinevski:
Bio is not always high in sugar, but this is what I see on the labels.
I like also food with a small number of ingredients. As for the E-numbers, in itself it doesn't mean much. For example, Vitamin C (also called Ascorbic acid) also has an E-number (E300), or other simple things like citric acid (E330). And if I check the labels, this vitamin c can or not be coming from a natural source. But I still think that having added Vitamin C, can be a healthy addition.

@Heidi:
And then, even "natural" and "bio" are close, but not the same.
I do as you suggest, regardless of the "nice claims" on the top, I just read every label, and try to decide based on that. But, at the moment, my main priority is to lower my calorie intake, so sometimes I buy products, which are low in calorie, but otherwise not so appealing. It's a tradeoff I can accept now. Maybe later, my priority will change, and I will choose different products.

This is interesting on sugar in general:
www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_art
icles.asp?id=486


This one on organic food:
nutritiondiva.quickanddirtytips.com/are-or
ganics-worth-the-cost.aspx



Edited by: HAKAPES at: 5/17/2011 (02:51)
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5/16/11 4:37 A

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Thanks for the research, Oliver!

As for me, I see 'Bio' products as a way for companies to charge more. Granted, some Bio products are grown or treated more naturally, but I can't be sure that something labeled 'Bio' is any different or better just because it has that word on it.

You just have to be patient and read labels. As for eating something natural, that doesn't necessarily mean that there will be more calories, but increasing your exercise is always a good idea!

Cheers,
Heidi

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5/15/11 8:38 A

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hmm, i didn't know that bio stuff is high in sugar. I'll have to read up on that...

Any by "not healthy" I meant, that when you look at low fat..i dunno... for example ham, then in the ingredients 90% of the things there...i don't even know what they are. And often they have" E and some numbers". So I am pretty sure that to eat that stuff isn't very healthy. I somewhere read smt like: You should eat things with stuff that your grandma doesn't know what it is. I kinda like that thought^^
I guess its better to eat something natural with more calories and then do some sports, or am I mistaken?


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HAKAPES
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5/15/11 7:23 A

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I was wondering, how do you mean "not healthy". To me, a food is not healthy, if it contains pesticide traces, micotoxins, additives in a quantity that are dangerous, or although expired for long, still on display.

Things that are high in fat, or carbohydrates, or just in sugar, to me are still healthy - I just eat less or don't eat them, because they can be high in calories.

On the other side, bio or natural products are often very high in sugar, because there are very little options beside sugar, if one still wants to add a sweet taste and/or conserve, but no use any conventional, but not natural origin sweetener/ conservierungsmittel.

I find myself to buy more and more raw and/or fresh products. Although not from the market, but from better know producers, if possible, where I suppose they have a good quality control system.


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5/15/11 7:07 A

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Hi Alice,

I find often that "healthy" or bio, or natural labelled food are often high in calories.
Now, I do look on each of the labels, and if the calorie is high, I leave it there.

Among the shops, Lidl, Hofer, Zielpunkt, Spar, Merkur, Billa etc. - I usually find the most things that are good for my SparkPeople calorie budget come from Spar.
In DM, or Bipa, I find sometimes puffed rice, or such, but the bio and natural range are often same high in calories.
In Billa or Schlecker, I almost never find things to buy, except some premium fruits or vegetables in Billa.
Pay attention that DiƤt or Diabetique products have maybe less sugar or carbohydrates, however they can be still same high in calories.

Some products that worked for me (from my manually entered product list):
Cereals:
Wasa Mjolk crispbread
Spar or any other puffed rice or wheat (the wholegrain is higher in calories, but actually you probably take less energy from it)
Ja basis or beeren musli

Dairy:
Nom Schlanke Linie yoghurts and dessert yoghurts
Schradinger cheese products (low in fat, but still have the valuable proteins, taste is medium)
Spar Vital product range (fruit desserts at the ready food section, ham, cheese, and such)
Milfina Milk New Lifestyle 0.5% fat (you find in Hofer, has the proteins, not the fat)
Danone Activia yogurts (usually 100-115 kcal/pot)
Philadelphia Light and Balance cream cheese
Topfen, Nim Brosel Topfen mager

Vegetables and fruits:
Spar fresh salads in ready portions - often half price
Spar premium fresh fruit juices (high pressure pasteurised - excellent quality)
Sweet Valley canned ananas (without sugar)
Spar Olives
Bonduelle Goldmais canned
Sauce, Mautner Markhof Balsamico Marinade Bianco
Sauce, Kraft Miracel Whip Balance 10%fett

Meat:
Hutthaler New Lifestyle range (like 3%fett ham)
Landhof Weil ich Will range (sausages, frankfurter, ham)
Handl Tyrol Chiliwurzerl (1 mini piece=60g)
Spar Vital range (sausages and ham)

Dessert:
Spar Vital Slim Ice Exotic (only 24 kcal per pot)
Optiwell fruit yogurt desserts (usually around 90-115 kcal/pot)
Schnekoppe Diet Jam, Prodieta, 30% weniger kalorien
Efko Genuss Plus Apfel Waldbeer Fruchtmischung (100kcal/pot)

Ready food:
Efko Sauerkraut (1cup=280g)
Uncle Bens mikrowaveable 2 portion rice foods (usually in Billa)

If you come across any nice tip or product, please share it here!

Hope this helps a little.
Oliver

(I removed the accents, they break.)

Edited by: HAKAPES at: 5/16/2011 (12:17)
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5/15/11 5:49 A

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Hi Alice,

Wish I had some suggestions. When I moved to Europe initially, I was faced with not only different products than what I was used to, but also different language :). The suggestions I would have might not be foods that you enjoy. It does take some time - and some standing around looking like a lost puppy in the store, but you wil eventually start to find some things that work for you.

Is there anything that you are having specific trouble with? I have a handful of things that I already know the caloric and fat values for, and I have to look at labels for other things. What kinds of foods do you like? Did you cook at home and not shop? Or did your mother do most of the cooking too? You might want your mom to come on a shopping trip with you? If you lived near me, I'd go with you, lol.

Good luck!

Cheers,
Heidi

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5/15/11 5:27 A

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Hey, I have read that several members have moved to Austria from somewhere else and were learning to cook with local products. I have kinda a similar situation eventhough I didn't move here. I just moved out and I never had to buy food for cooking. I was a pretty spoiled child regarding helping my mom with stuff at home ^^

So now I am like standing around in spar, merkur, and so on and compare calories, ingredients and stuff to find out what the best low calorie stuff is. Because the products with the lowest calorie count are so often not healthy at all.

Maybe someone has tips for me to make shopping a bit eithier? Maybe some ideas for product groups that a low on calories and still bio? Or any other thoughts on groceries shopping in Austria :)

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