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9/22/12 8:05 P

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what I forgot to tell you that I have been injured for almost 2 years run get better get injured repeat the cycle , many of the reasons are I did not follow program , I had too much pride and always pushed my runs , improper fueling and hydration ......

I've been back to running 7 weeks now pace now means nothing ,it is now between a 10 and 11 minute mile pace . when I can go out and say I "ONLY" did 8 or 10 miles today then I will push harder and train harder for my runs . now it is just to try and find the love of running again while staying healthy

don't follow my shoes

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BOBBYD31's Photo BOBBYD31 Posts: 4,956
9/22/12 6:31 P

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first running running 6 miles in an hour is not slow that is about 10 min per mile which is actually pretty good. as nancy said if your daily runs are at 9:30 ish then your weekly LSD runs should be about 11-11:30 ish per mile
second side stitches do not come from what you eat(ps you need more than a pop tart prior to an hour long run)
third are you following any organized training program, you should do one (halhigdon.com novice runner)
fourth tread mills are not always accurate, has yours been calibrated??? what is harder about a tread mill is you run the same speed the whole time no up or down hills to change your speed or give you a break.
fifth pride really......my 5k race pace is 7:30 ish training pace is 9-9:30 ish and LSD 10-10:30 ish you have to have different paces and do not worry about what you are training at some days will be better than others. it is not always full speed
sixth- watch how you build your miles no more than 10% increase per week. do not go from 4 miles to a 6.5 mile run

the good news is you have lots of time to get ready, find a training plan and follow it, do not push beyond the plan. if you do you have a dramatic increased chance of injury. (hint halhigdon.com) find some reading on fueling and work on it (hint halhigdon.com novice runner)

most of all forget about times, go out and have fun and the times will come on there own as you progress.

GOOD LUCK



Bobby D - Ellwood City, PA

"If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken Him completely by surprise." ~P.Z. Pearce

"A lot of people run a race to see who's the fastest. I run to see who has the most guts."
-Pre

I do it because i can, I can because I want to, I want to because you said I couldn't.


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5 Mile 41:26
10k 50:28
13k 1:10:32
HM 2:02 PR


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ALLYSNEWLIFE's Photo ALLYSNEWLIFE Posts: 3,938
9/22/12 5:52 P

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Thank you! It took me over a mile to a mile and half to finally find my rhythm today. But I found it and was happy with the run, not overly fast but so slow I felt like I was going backwards, lol

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ALLY, that's wonderful! 6.5 must be today's number. emoticon I was aiming for 5.5 since I've had some bad runs lately, but I felt so good after slowing it down, that I just kept going.

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ALLYSNEWLIFE's Photo ALLYSNEWLIFE Posts: 3,938
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Congrats on the run!

Today I had a goal 8 miles. I didn't reach it but I did get 6.5 miles in. It was my longest run outside since my 10k back in April. I proud that I didn't give up at 5 miles like I wanted too. I'm going for it again next Saturday. Not gonna give up until I reach it, emoticon !

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CHEEKY1000's Photo CHEEKY1000 Posts: 1,022
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Hi all! Thanks for the good suggestions. As I mentioned in my original post, the run/walk/run method wore me out even sooner. Evidently, I'm like an oceanliner...once I get moving it's easier and requires less energy to just keep sailing. lol

Here's an update. I tried running slower. I hated it. It was a blow to my pride. But I ran 6.5 miles and nary an ache or pain. No exhaustion.

Here's why it's a blow to my pride. Every 5K I've run, I've averaged a 9:30 mile. When I train outside, I average 10 min/mile. Granted, this isn't a remotely competitive speed, but it's MY speed. HOWEVER, when I run on a treadmill and set it for even a 10 min/mile, it feels like a sprint. Everything I've ever heard about treadmills says they're "easier." Yet, it takes me so much longer to run a 5K or a 10K on a treamill than it does outside. Why the heck is that? I wish there were a "whine" font. lol I just want the freakin' weather to break, so that I can start running outside again and feel like I'm accomplishing something. This might be a topic for a different post, but it is so frustrating to see the slow numbers on a treadmill.

It's simply a great mystery why I run SLOWER on a treadmill than outside if they're so "easy."

"Time is always wasted if you're not aiming for what you want."

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9/21/12 2:28 P

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I'm with most that everyone has offered. I personally embrace Jeff Galloway's Interval Training. I used it to do my first Half Marathon. Funny thing is SP's run & walk/run training incorporates similar sessions. It got me into running to begin with. To be safe and train right, I find a plan and stay with it. Needless to say, I educate myself and read everyone's experiences here and other running teams. You'll be fine. Just be safe and embrace your training and the run!
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ALLYSNEWLIFE's Photo ALLYSNEWLIFE Posts: 3,938
9/21/12 10:01 A

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I do the run/walk/run, otherwise I wouldn't be able to complete my runs. I'm working back up to running at least 3 miles straight. I find myself cursing running the whole time I'm doing it, but feel so accomplished when I'm done, lol

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Have you thought about run/walk/run? It might be a tool to get you through the miles.

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9/20/12 10:37 A

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Cheeky - note on the GU...they make some flavors with caffeine and some without, so just make sure you are looking at the label closely. Same with the Chomps, Bloks or any other brand of energy gel or chews. :-)

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Thanks everyone! Lots to consider. I try not to eat too much before a run as I get cramps/stitches in my side. I've discovered that I can eat a Pop-tart (actually recommended by Runner's World). It's not the healthiest, but I think because it's so processed, it gives me energy but no other issues--usually. I'll have to try one of thos GU deals (Thanks 4EVERADONEGIRL). As long as they don't have caffeine (which gives me massive, nasty headaches), I'm willing to try them.

Coach Nancy, I do stay hydrated. I'm afraid that if I run any slower, I'll be walking. lol

ALLYSNEWLIFE, good luck and do update us!

LINDAKAY228, thanks for the encouragment and back at ya!

Edited by: CHEEKY1000 at: 9/19/2012 (21:10)
"Time is always wasted if you're not aiming for what you want."

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I've got an 8 mile run schedule for Saturday and I haven't been able to get past 5 miles recently. I think that the advice you have given has been great. I'm going to look for some refuel things for my run. I want to conquer this 8 mile run so bad! I'll let y'all know how it goes, emoticon

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Coach Nancy touched on it...but my first thought was fueling and/or hydration. Are you taking in carbs and electrolytes during your run? Are you eating prior to heading out? If you are going to be out for longer than 60 minutes on a run then you should have a plan in place for refueling. I tend to prefer GU and GU Chomps to refuel mid-run. You usually take one GU before starting and then another about 45 minutes in. Then depending on how long you are out you might add more in every 15 minutes or so. I also like Clif Bloks - during my previous 10ks (6.2 miles) I take a couple blocks every 15 minutes and that helps keep my energy levels moderated.

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I'm not sure what happens but that seems to happen to me every time I've gotten up to about 4 miles. Can't give you great advice but I do wish you a lot of luck and hope you get past it soon and onto your race!!!

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9/18/12 11:47 P

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Hi,

Could it be that your running your long runs too fast? Your LSD runs should be slower than your daily runs, almost painfully slow. The reason, you need time to develop the muscle endurance while teaching your body to utilize fat for fuel longer in your training runs. Also are you refueling during your runs? How's your hydration?

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Hi all! I signed up for a 15K in December. I signed up back in June, so I knew I'd have plenty of time to train (I've been regularly running 3-4 miles--3 times a week-- for over a year). I figured if people can train for a HM in 13 weeks, I can train for a mere 15K in a little over 4 months. I should be in the middle of my training program where I scheduled myself to spend at least two weeks getting used to running 6 miles before I moved on.

I've made it to 6 miles before, and even for a whole week. However, something always seems to happen (flu, injury, etc), that sets me back and I have to "start over" at 4 miles. Anyhow, I'm finding that hitting and maintaining 6 miles is really hard for me. It's like a running plateau I can't seem to break.

Any suggestions? Is it possible it's hard because I'm a slow runner and it takes me over an hour to run 6 miles and my body doesn't like the time; therefore doing even more time is hampering me? I just can't figure out what the trouble is. I tried doing a run/walk deal tonight, and that wore me out--I didn't even make it 4 miles.

I'm not completely discouraged yet as I know I still have time, but I'd love to hear what you might think. (And some words of encouragement wouldn't be amiss--lol.)

Thanks!

Edited by: CHEEKY1000 at: 9/18/2012 (23:32)
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