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5/12/10 5:44 P

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Well if we ned to compete with someone it may as well be someone we spend a lot of time with....LOL
Running is always a time of focus and running dialog with myself as well (pun not intended but it's appropro) I just hope people don't see that I'm talking to myself and competing with myself...the white coats are coming!

Every day there is a life fight, and every day we respond to that fight. We may not win each battle, but we will win, with great effort, enriched character and gained wisdom, the great battle that constantly challenges us in our daily lives. - Unknown www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9aJtO0VCqw


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5/12/10 3:42 P

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all words of truth! It is hard to not have the mental competition and better your speed, I struggle with it every time I run! emoticon

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4/28/10 8:11 P

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LOL at DD!! That's hilarious! I know, right? My 18 yr old daughter tells me that I 'mentally b***ch slap myself'. I will go back and forth between encouraging words to things like, "Are you serious? You're 2 mins from the end...don't stop!" LOL! Wow, I think I just outted myself as crazy here...;)

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Very wise and helpful words....I often know I'm going too fast and really have to fight with myself to slow down with the reminder that it is supposed to be about building endurance and speed will take care of itself...but then, that inner child says...I wanna be faster...wah wah

Every day there is a life fight, and every day we respond to that fight. We may not win each battle, but we will win, with great effort, enriched character and gained wisdom, the great battle that constantly challenges us in our daily lives. - Unknown www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9aJtO0VCqw


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4/28/10 11:59 A

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We all think we are painfully slow at first, and many of us are actually running too fast for our current conditioning. Getting a feeling for conversational running pace is the first step on the path to a lifetime of running.

When you hit that pace, running ceases to be a constant battle with yourself to get faster, to push yourself harder every run. It's a recognition of where you are now, and it's different for everyone, and it can vary from run to run based on temperature and conditions.

The battling and testing and pushing can still be fun, but it's a lot healthier in the long run to save it for race day.

I think you are making the right decision on scrapping the second race. Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.

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4/28/10 10:04 A

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Wow, I never thought that I would be told I was running too fast! LOL! That is kinda cool, but only because there's this story that kept me from running for a long time about how this little girl saw me running a couple of years ago and I heard her say as I was leaving, "Wow, she is slow!" That actually embarrassed me a little and I felt silly 'running' after that.

However, I didn't know all that about the physiology! I learned that as a new runner you should look at how many minutes you're running and not how far. Yet at some point I started competing with myself and trying to go further than I did the time before. Part of it is I think because I really don't know what a 'good time' is. The only input I heard was a few people at work talking about their times. I decided that 11:00 was 'normal' and I should push myself to do try to do that.

I do NOT want to get sidelined by getting hurt though! That would break my heart to finally have found something that I like so much then have to quit! I will be more careful about paying attention to my body and see how hard it seems like I'm working and allow myself to slow down.

I also decided not to do the second run because it's pretty hilly and I have so far did mostly flat or only small hills. I did our more hilly neighborhood yesterday and it was HARD. I think the run is uphill the entire last 1.5 miles emoticon Not quite as excited about that :)

Edited by: JMPRGRL74 at: 4/28/2010 (10:05)
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4/27/10 10:16 A

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I would not run back-to-back races like that as a new runner. Racing too frequently is a form of speed work in itself, and nobody should be speed training this early in their running career.

Another observation. I currently run 35 minute training workouts right around the distance you are doing. I've been running continuously for 10 months and have run a 5K race at a sub-9 minute pace. I strongly suspect that you are running your training runs too fast. Most people in their seventh week as a runner are not able to run conversationally at a pace anywhere near 11 minutes per mile.

You should be able to speak in short sentences while you run. There should be no huffing and puffing. If the pace that you can do that is 11 minutes per mile, then thank your lucky stars. If it's 13 or 14 or even 17 minutes per mile, that's probably more normal for someone in their seventh week unless they are very fit to start with. I mean multi-sport athlete fit.

Most beginners run too fast. I know because I did too. If you run at a pace that's faster than conversational pace, you are putting a lot of strain on your developing neuromuscular system, and open yourself up to a greater chance of injury. Your cardiovascular system develops faster than the rest of your running physiology.

If you run at a conversational pace, your pace will gradually improve as you build endurance, and you will naturally get faster. It took me about 10 months to go from 13 minute pace down to around 10:40 easy running pace, but 10:40 now feels as easy as 13 used to.

Good luck with your running.

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4/26/10 8:10 P

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Thank you guys! I actually have an Android, but the app is for iPhone too I am pretty sure. It is called Cardio Trainer. I LOVE it!

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4/26/10 7:03 P

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I think you should be ok with running for fun ;)

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What app are you using? I just got an iphone and am looking for something like that! :)

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4/26/10 4:36 P

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I've only been running 7 weeks and actually, they would both be for fun. The first one this weekend I entered as recreational, not competitive. The one on the 8th doesn't give the option - I guess you're in or you're not. I'm still slow - I ran 3.2 yesterday in 35 mins. (The app on my phone says I'm at a 11:05 pace average.)

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4/26/10 4:32 P

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JM,

How long have you been running? Would you be willing to only race one of these races and just run the other one?

Recovery for a 5K race is fairly quick however, it depends on many factors, one of them how long you have been running.

I have been known to run 6 5Ks in 6 weeks, but, then I only chose a couple of those races to truly race, the others were just that--fun runs.

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I'm doing my first 5k this Sunday and there is another one just down the road from my house I learned about today 6 days later, on the 8th. It wouldn't be a big deal to sign up for that one too would it? I figure am running that far anyway 3-4 days/wk now, so might as well? I could do the race Sunday afternoon, run Tues then Thurs then race Sat?

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