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5/8/08 10:34 P

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To add my two cents, but it sounds as if you are overtraining, therefore not allowing your body to fully recover from one activity before you hit with another.

TRUST ME, I felt these same symptoms when I was training for my 1/2 marathon last December and all of my running coaches told me I was overtraining...(keep in mind, Nancy and overtraining have never been in the same sentence in my whole entire life). I was highly advised to slow down my training and to take a few extra days off (which about killed me)...I did this for 3 weeks and let me tell you I came back stronger and better and I finally got my energy back.

ALSO, make sure you are refueling ASAP after your workouts...your refueling isn't so much for what you just did, but for your next workout (check out poweringmuscles.com) for more info.

Hope this helps!
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Other symptoms of overtraining include:

Loss of appetite
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Higher resting heart rate
Lack of progress
Weight loss

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5/8/08 7:41 P

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I get tired, but I'm sure it's just the result of working 10-15 hours a week overtime and getting between 4-5 hours of sleep each night. I must say though, that once I start running around 4:45am, it perks me up and I end up feeling energized. I think the more weight you lose, the less tired you will be.

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5/8/08 11:09 A

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thanks for all the ideas. i just started adding the strength training and other cardio this week, before that i was just doing pilates on my days off and some light strength training. i don't think i'm doing too much, but maybe i am. i weigh about 250 so it is a lot of body i'm trying to move around! LOL i did have my thyroid checked about 2 years ago or so cause my mom has a thyroid problem and they thought that could have been part of my weight problem, but it checked out fine.

i am still increasing my running time and still in my training part, so maybe thats part of why i'm still getting so tired, my body is still doing more and getting challenged harder and harder?

lybbe last week i actually lost 7 pounds, that was after mostly nothing for a few weeks. i haven't weighed myself yet this week so i don't know how i'm doing there.

jules now that you ask me if its all day or just at the end of the day.... i feel good in the mornings and the early afternoon. but it is at work that i get tired. i work 2nd shift, 2 to 12 (10 hour shift!) monday through thursday.... and its usually around 4-6 that i notice that i am just so tired. like i could just lay my head down at my desk and fall asleep. i usually wake up around 9 or 10 and get 7-9 hours of sleep?

hmmm i don't know anymore! haha

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5/8/08 9:51 A

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are you tired all day long? Or just at the end of the day? Or just muscle tired when you try to exercise?

I know that by the end of the day I am beat and ready to go to bed, but I feel better during the day. Also, when I first started my muscles were really tired when I tried to exercise and my trainer upped my protein. He said he wanted me getting at least 80 g of protein a day.

One easy way I've found to get protein is to drink EAS Advant-Edge protein shakes - the carb control ones. They're not that many calories, the Deep Dark chocolate flavor is a great chocolate fix for me (once you get used to the protein shake flavor), and it gives you 17 grams of protein.

Good luck and keep us posted!

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5/8/08 8:23 A

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Hey, I just read in my Runner's World Magazine that after 6 weeks you will start experiencing the benefits of running, like more energy. So the tiredness should wear off. If it doesn't, back of a little on the other cardio like Cass and Lybbe suggested. Also, if you are due for a check-up with your doctor I might consider going. It could be low iron, thyroid or some other health underlying problem too. I'm hyperthyroid...and didn't know it for almost a year...so it's pretty easy to have a problem and not realize it's the reason you feel like crap when you're doing everything right! After 6 weeks I would think you're body would have adjusted to all the activity...so maybe it's something else?

Take care of yourself and good luck! I hope you feel better!

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5/8/08 6:14 A

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Depending on how much strength/other cardio you're doing - you may doing too much. As Cass said, I think you should ease back on the cardio on the days you don't run. That doesn't mean you can't go for a walk or some other light exercise, but just ease back.

Also - you may not be eating enough. Are you losing regularly? You need to be eating lots of good quality carbs (whole grains, vegetables, fruit)to fuel your exercise. Lack of protein is rarely a problem.

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5/8/08 1:47 A

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I'm a new runner too. I finished the couch to 5k program and am still running just 3 days per week. I should be strength training on two days, and eventually I will do that, but could you be doing too much too soon? What if you tried just running/cardio work 3 times a week for 2 weeks. Maybe you need to build up to the quantity and frequency you've been doing?

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5/7/08 10:11 P

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You mentioned in your first post that you do other cardio on your non-running days. Try a week where you just do the three days of running -- sort of a rest week. Keep up the strength training, just drop the other cardio for one week, then pick it back up again.

When I am doing a training program, the mileage increases for three weeks in a row, then drops considerably for a rest week. It works pretty good for me, so perhaps you just need a week of lower cardio to give your body a breather.

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5/7/08 10:06 P

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Hmm sounds like you are eating right. I don't know if you don't get better soon I would go see your doctor or ast least call and see what she suggests. I was super tired like that for about 2 weeks when I started but after that it went away. I hope you feel better it sounds like you are doing everything right nutrition wise.

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5/7/08 9:19 P

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well, i have been drinking 80-100 oz of water a day, so i think i'm doing ok with that. calories i have been having about 1450-1550 on average... todays run for example was walk 2 min jog 5 min, total of 21 minutes, then i did a 4 minute cool down walk at the end. it felt great, but now tonight i'm soooo tired. and i got probably 8-8.5 hours of sleep last night so that is ok. protein, i have been trying to add more protein, but it's hard when i'm watching the calories. the last few days have been 77, 71, 76, today 86... like i said, i read that article that said you will feel tired at first. and i am still building up to "running" it's still more of a slow jog right now. but it's been 6 weeks that i have been on this new lifestyle plan. i just want to have energy and feel good again!!

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5/7/08 6:54 P

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Are you eating enough protein? How about water are you drinking enough? With all the energy you are expending and muscle building you need to eat a lot of protein. Also another thing, how many calories are you eating a day? It sounds like you are training pretty hard. I strength train 3 days a week and run 3 days a week and I eat 1400 on run days and 1600 on ST days. It could be also you are eating too low of calories. The tiredness you feel when you first do something new lasts like a couple of weeks you shouldn't be feeling tired anymore. Look at what you are eating and if that doesn't work you might need to go see a doctor.

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I am so glad you asked that because I am feeling the same way...someone has to be able to give some insight. . .

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has this happened to anyone else? i have been doing my learn-to-run program for 6 weeks now (YAY for me!! i really didn't think i would make it this far) and trying to do strength training/other cardio on my off days. and i am just so darn tired all the time! even more so on days i run! i know people say exercise gives you more energy, and i also read an article here on spark that said at first you will be tired as your body gets used to using so much more energy..... so how long do i have to wait until this "more energy" starts kicking in??? cause right now this exercise thing is kicking my butt!

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