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I would think you could do both. I would just make sure you rest a couple days after the Bridge run and take some slow runs leading up to the 2nd run. If you can consistently run a 5K 1-2x/week leading up to that then I see no reason not to do both.

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~5K-Chris Thater Memorial 5K (8/26/12): 24:45
~8K-Turkey Trot (11/25/10): 41:40
~10K-January Freeze #3/4 (1/22/11): 52:57
~15K-Utica Boilermaker (7/8/12): 1:19:07
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OK, new question. How long should it be between my 1st 5 k and 2nd 5k? Is 2 weeks enough? or should I wait longer?

I have been planning on the Bridge Run, but AnnieMac just left that post about the run in Bainbridge, (which is in my back yard) on Memorial Day weekend. Should I skip the Bridge Run? or can I do both?

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3/20/11 10:00 P

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I think a 10K in October is totally do-able. I ran a 10K last October after starting running in March. Just make sure you extend your distance slowly. Good Luck!

~Julie~


It's not uncommon to go to bed thinking, "Darn, I should have run today." It's not common to go to bed thinking, "I shouldn't have run today."
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Running PRs
~5K-Chris Thater Memorial 5K (8/26/12): 24:45
~8K-Turkey Trot (11/25/10): 41:40
~10K-January Freeze #3/4 (1/22/11): 52:57
~15K-Utica Boilermaker (7/8/12): 1:19:07
~HM-Greater Binghamton Bridge Run (5/15/11): 1:51:06


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3/18/11 12:53 P

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yeah for the weight loss!!! WHOOT! you go girl!

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3/18/11 10:38 A

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He won't be here for that, but he will probably be home in August, and has promised me that we will have a run or two together. I can't wait. emoticon

He is already bugging me for pictures. I saw him last over the holidays, so there is about 25 lbs less of me than there was. With the weight loss and the fitness,I do look a lot different.

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3/18/11 9:05 A

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that's nice that you can share that with your son. It would be awesome if he could be there for the May race for your inaugural run. :) But being a serviceman i know that it's difficult.

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3/17/11 11:00 P

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Hee hee! It is funny. My original goal was to do the 5 k in May and then shoot for the 10K in October in Oneonta (The PIT Run). I guess maybe I got a little excited after feeling so good yesterday. That is probably going to be my biggest challenge. Not doing too much too fast.

I told my son that I am starting to run. He is in dangerous parts unknown as he is an Army Ranger. He can never say much, so conversations can be awkward. I can't ask all of the things that I want to, so I just sort of blurted it out. He was IMPRESSED! It made me feel good that he thought that it was so awesome. His big warning was about overtraining too. I promised him that I wouldn't and I can't break a promise to HIM!

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3/17/11 2:42 P

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Also.. the TCRC has group runs on the weekends... No matter the experience level.. You could always tag along with them to geta feel of distance and pace. :)

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3/17/11 12:40 P

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There aren't any posted, but the OctoberFast 10K was really nice last year, that would be a good one to aim for. If you're willing to travel, there are some 8 and 10Ks in the Ithaca area I think.

There are some great 5Ks this summer too. I would recommend the Parlor City (July), the Kelly LaBarre (Early August) and the Chris Thater (Late August).

I have to agree with Gwen that you should probably have a few 5ks under your belt before you decide if you want to go further. You seem to have a very realistic approach though, so good luck with whatever you decide!

~Julie~


It's not uncommon to go to bed thinking, "Darn, I should have run today." It's not common to go to bed thinking, "I shouldn't have run today."
-Scott Douglas

Running PRs
~5K-Chris Thater Memorial 5K (8/26/12): 24:45
~8K-Turkey Trot (11/25/10): 41:40
~10K-January Freeze #3/4 (1/22/11): 52:57
~15K-Utica Boilermaker (7/8/12): 1:19:07
~HM-Greater Binghamton Bridge Run (5/15/11): 1:51:06


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I'd say don't do it.. try for a fall 10K.. there's a B210K program...give your body time to adjust to being a runner and get the 5K distance down consistently first.. When it feels like it's becoming easy.. then move onto a 10K distance.

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Woo Hoo! I was concerned about how I would feel this morning, but all I have is the "I had a good workout yesterday" aches.

So yeah, I am hearing the calling!

Julie, I love the faith that you have in me, but I think I will take it slowly. I want to be able to do this for a long time. I will feel good if I can run the 5K in May. Any suggestions for a 10K in June or July?

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WOOT!!!

(You know, there is still plenty of time to train to do the full HM in May. Especially if you complete it in intervals. Just a thought)

I turned out to be a somewhat "natural" runner too. Who'd a thunk??

~Julie~


It's not uncommon to go to bed thinking, "Darn, I should have run today." It's not common to go to bed thinking, "I shouldn't have run today."
-Scott Douglas

Running PRs
~5K-Chris Thater Memorial 5K (8/26/12): 24:45
~8K-Turkey Trot (11/25/10): 41:40
~10K-January Freeze #3/4 (1/22/11): 52:57
~15K-Utica Boilermaker (7/8/12): 1:19:07
~HM-Greater Binghamton Bridge Run (5/15/11): 1:51:06


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ahhh I hear the sweet song of another one joining us in the calling... TO RUN! :)

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Oh yeah. I am gonna be a runner. I can tell. On my lunchtime "walk" today, I had my interval trainer app set up, intending to "walk faster" during the working intervals and slow it down on the resting intervals. Well, after the first round, I decided to jog "just one " of the working intervals. After the 6th one, I managed to make myself stop running them. (I was getting all sweaty and had to go back to work)

So here is what I did:
5 minute warmup
1 minute "faster walk"
90 sec "rest"
1 minute jog
(6x)
90 second rest
1 minute faster walk
5 minute cooldown
5 minute stretch.
All of this was done in inappropriate attire, the wrong shoes and on a full stomach.
I felt like a million bucks for the rest of the day.

I will have to wait and see how I feel tomorrow before I call this a real "fitness test", but I think I am gonna be hooked!


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3/16/11 10:03 A

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good luck! can't wait to hear your progress! :)

Gwen

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3/8/11 7:36 A

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THanks Julie! I am downloading it now. I figure that I will use the intervals for walking fast/ faster for my cardio until I get done with the bootcamp. I will take it a bit easy until I am done with that and then maybe be able to jump ahead a bit in the c25Ksince I am not really going from the couch!

Fitness is a long Journey made up of baby steps, (think: toddler doing a marathon) so steady goes it! If you fall down: get up!

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I know I'm jumping in late here...it looks like you've gotten some awesome advice already! Here are my adds.

For a C25K podcast, I really enjoyed www.runningintoshape.com Her music choices are awesome and her voice isn't annoying to listen to.

I know a bunch of the BALs are doing either the HM or 5K bridge run, I think that would be an awesome goal for your first one!

Good Luck and keep us updated!

~Julie~


It's not uncommon to go to bed thinking, "Darn, I should have run today." It's not common to go to bed thinking, "I shouldn't have run today."
-Scott Douglas

Running PRs
~5K-Chris Thater Memorial 5K (8/26/12): 24:45
~8K-Turkey Trot (11/25/10): 41:40
~10K-January Freeze #3/4 (1/22/11): 52:57
~15K-Utica Boilermaker (7/8/12): 1:19:07
~HM-Greater Binghamton Bridge Run (5/15/11): 1:51:06


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I know I'm jumping in late here...it looks like you've gotten some awesome advice already! Here are my adds.

For a C25K podcast, I really enjoyed www.runningintoshape.com Her music choices are awesome and her voice isn't annoying to listen to.

I know a bunch of the BALs are doing either the HM or 5K bridge run, I think that would be an awesome goal for your first one!

Good Luck and keep us updated!

~Julie~


It's not uncommon to go to bed thinking, "Darn, I should have run today." It's not common to go to bed thinking, "I shouldn't have run today."
-Scott Douglas

Running PRs
~5K-Chris Thater Memorial 5K (8/26/12): 24:45
~8K-Turkey Trot (11/25/10): 41:40
~10K-January Freeze #3/4 (1/22/11): 52:57
~15K-Utica Boilermaker (7/8/12): 1:19:07
~HM-Greater Binghamton Bridge Run (5/15/11): 1:51:06


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3/6/11 1:25 P

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I already found and downloaded a couple of free ones. I will try them out and figure what I like and what I don't. Then can look at the better ones and have something to go on. :)

Fitness is a long Journey made up of baby steps, (think: toddler doing a marathon) so steady goes it! If you fall down: get up!

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I agree..look around and check out the apps and programs and see what works best for you. :)

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I love my C25K app - the podcasts only have audio cues but with my app the screen changes color, too, when it's time to change pace - I'm a very visual person so I love that! Different apps do different things & some have more robust trackers than others, or better multitasking capability (for example I also use mine with Nike + iPod), so if you're shopping for apps, it can pay off to try free versions if they're available, or at the very least visit websites to look at full-size screen shots & read reviews to find the one that will work best for you.

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Oh! Cool!. It sounds like a similar plan to the virtual 5 k, but the pod apps may be awesome! I will have to check that out. Thanks!

I was wondering about a training plan for the 10K, cause my hope is to do a 5K soonish (May?- I was looking at the Bridge run. Is anyone else planning on participating in that?) and do a 10K by October (the PIT Run in Oneonta)



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C25K is the couch to 5K program - it outlines increasing jog/walk intervals to get you to running 5K in 9 weeks. There are a ton of websites, and also a group here on SP to help you get started.

The original website is here: www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181
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There are also smartphone apps that work with your own music & tell you when to jog and walk, and they're not too expensive. There are several free podcasts too with sounds to tell you when to jog and walk, but I'm not nuts about the music mixes on some of them.

As you progress, there are similar programs for 10K, half-marathon, etc., and also programs to help you meet time goals in a chosen distance, available in websites, apps and podcasts. Lots of people out there put lots of effort into helping everyone find their own best way to learn to run emoticon

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You sounds right on track to me.. I'd Def finish the boot camp first.. then start the Virtual 5k.. that way you're not doing 2 things at once and possibly overworking your body.. Besides spacing things out like that gives you something to look forward month to month and keeps the boredom down. :)

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Thanks very much guys. I am pretty sure I am going to do this. I have decided on my shoes, but I just have to find a place that has them so I can try them on to be sure of sizing. - That is a biggie at my age, weight, and knee strength.

I have started doing runner's stretches, although I am not running yet. I figure that it can't hurt to start good and flexible.

I have been looking at the virtual 5k challenge. I think I might first do a walk/jog interval test to see where my current limits are since I have been doing so much walking and even jogged a little a couple of times. That way I can start the training at an appropriate level for me. I also have to finish the 28 day bootcamp challenge. The instructions for the virtual 5 k say to take at least one day off per week and the goal of the 28 day challenge is to not take any days off!

Does it sound like I am on the right track? Any other suggestions?

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Glad it helped :)

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You're very welcome! Here's other things to consider in looking at HRM straps.... Garmin ones are all rubber... Sometimes they require a use of electrode gel to help make the connection when you're not sweating enough.. I.e like winter.. My polar strap does have rubber on it.. but where the electrode sensor is... is cloth.. all you do is wet that area with water, put it on and go.. It's also washable..makes care easier... Just something you may want to consider. BTW you can get the electrode gel for $1.42 for a large 8oz bottle at twin tier home health center on the parkway.

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Lureah, thank you for the article. It gives me some great knee care advice on when to push and not to push it. So helpful! Just what I needed. I will keep it for future reference!

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Thanks a ton, Gwen. I knew that you would be a fount of info!
I have been researching, reading reviews, etc. I am pretty sure that I want a multi-sport with a strap (reviews I read of strapless ones were not great).

I don't do a ton of water sports (not a natural swimmer, I tend to sink like a stone), so I don't think that the water proof aspect is something that is important for me. That could change over time, but for now, I am not worried about it.

What is most important to me right now is to try to get my heart rate in the target zone and accurately track calories burned. I have a hard time believing that I am burning the calories listed in the charts. They are a nice tool, but as I progress, I am going to need to get more scientific about my fitness. That is just the kind of gal I am! The ones that chirp sound like a good thing, so I don't have to watch it all of the time.

Thanks again!

Fitness is a long Journey made up of baby steps, (think: toddler doing a marathon) so steady goes it! If you fall down: get up!

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Ba-Ma: my first caution to you about HRM's is....unless they come with a strap to use.. they're worthless... Because you'd have to hold your had on the watch to get an accurate calorie count... My suggestions BEFORE you actually purchase one is to figure out WHAT you're looking for....

I originally wanted and got the Garmin 305 for my birthday.. Sent it back twice.. One of the features i liked on it was the GPS.. but since it never kept my HR properly.. and the maps on the GPS were always wrong.. i sent it back.. the main issue was the strap because it wouldn't sit properly on my chest to keep the HR... it was a rubber one.. After more research i have settled on, currently own and opperate a Polar 330xSD.. On of the things i like about it, it's strap conforms to the body more... all you have to do is wet the cloth are and it's good to go... Ok now this type of HRM is for serious runners and consider a multisport.. I can turn off the footpod sensor on the watch and use if for cycling on the SB, kickboxing...

So It came down to this for me.. Because i am a runner FIRST as a primary exercise.. i needed something for that...i'm training for a triatholon.. So i wanted something that could be adaptable and used later on as a multisport..My polar has botha GPS and Cadence sensor that can be added if i choose... MIne also has the flexibility to turn off the footpod sensor and use as a standard HRM... there are also Specific HRM for "weekly training" that you can set in your desired pace/speed and it will chirp at you if you need to speed up or slow down. There are HRM's specific for Strength training.. there are ones for general fitness...

So my point is you need to shop around.. I would recommend garmin, polar, or timex..they are the best in the buisness and most accurate.. With that being said my first one was a basica $50 Sportline Hrm..it will do the lap calculations for you, calories burned, your HR zones and time in each... Never had an issue with it.. I just upgraded to more because i"m doing MORE...so think of your short and long term goals.


Here's the link to the Polar website: www.polarusa.com/us-en/products


Oh and for me.. the GPS is a load of crock.. I know some people love it.. but i know how to read a map.. I rarely run the same route... and all i really need is milage, pace, speed..

As a side note... Polar and Most Timex's are waterproof.. only 2 Garmin's are.. So that is something to consider if doing water sports. If you need help researching let me know...

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I found this link in my email today, the first part relates to knee injuries. I thought you might find it helpful...
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Thanks, guys! I have been walking, so I have been working on that part of it. I think that is what has me thinking about running again.

As far as the doctor's advice, I will probably do that too. I should have a basic checkup coming up soon, so I will ask then.

Thanks for the ideas on how to find running shes. I will definitely go to the site.
I have been looking at hrm's and have seen a new balance one that I think that I would like. It is about in the range that you mentioned. Gwen, what is the C25K that you mentioned?

Fitness is a long Journey made up of baby steps, (think: toddler doing a marathon) so steady goes it! If you fall down: get up!

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2/28/11 11:13 A

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great idea. :)

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Also depending on your knee issue certain stretches can really help, try to search for stretches specific to your issue...Runnersworld.com has a lot of great info for beginners.

Stretching before and after a run will really help reduce chance of injury. Try dynamic stretching before the run, this is when you are moving your body to do the stretch, such as a walking lunge.

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first go to www.shoedog.com Put in the your specs on the how to find your shoe.. height, weight, mileage, terrain you'll be running...When you're done it will give you a list of shoes suitable for you.. you do NOT Have to buy from this site... but you can go to dick's and buy from there.. DO NOT SKIMP ON COST OF RUNNING SHOES...you're going to want to spend between $50-$100.... Hrm's... you can start with a basic model around $50.. it will tell you calories burned.. have target HR zones...I recommend doing a program like C25K.. so it's easy to start out with.... Since you have knee issues.. I also recommend some crosstraining Like bicycling or swimming.. Both are lower impact...

last thoughts.. since you have knee issues, get clearance from your dr first.. explain what you want to do.. He may have you do a month of cycling first before you start running.. And ABOVE ALL... LISTEN TO YOUR BODY... if your knee is bothering you at ANY point in time with the running STOP.... Before i even started C25K .. I did about a month of just walking 4 miles/ day to gear my body up for the next step of running.. remember slow and steady wins the race. :)

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I have mentioned on a previous board that I am thinking about running again. I could use some advice on how to get started and what tools you find helpful.

So far I have figured out that I will probably start as soon as the snow goes away (if it ever does!) by starting with some walk/run intervals to ease my way into it. Then I will gradually increase run/ decrease walk intervals to progress until I am running/sprinting intervals. A couple of specific questions:

I have a knee issue from a fall this past October, can you recommend shoes or other hints that will help me rehabilitate it?

I also want to get a HR/calorie monitor. It would have to be cost effective and easy to use. Any Suggestions?

Fitness is a long Journey made up of baby steps, (think: toddler doing a marathon) so steady goes it! If you fall down: get up!

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