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3/12/12 8:13 P

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I can't rememeber where I was reading about calcium carbonate and gout recently, but just now while trying to find the reference I came across this comment:

"After doing extensive research on blood buffering, I realized that baking soda is very much a sub-optimal agent to use, primarily because of the sodium (though the cost can't be beat!) There are other sources of bicarbonate; the simplest of these are different bicarbonate salts: potassium or magnesium bicarbonate should buffer just as well, and not be subject to anywhere near the risks of sodium bicarbonate (though I should note that high levels of any salt can be dangerous for certain people, especially those with complicating heart, circulation or kidney disorders. So consult your doctors!). Even calcium carbonate (i.e. Tums or other stomach antacids) is a possibility, though such a high percentage of the mass is calcium that one might get into issues of calcium over-dose without getting enough carbonate. From a pharmacological point of view, balancing the right amount of carbonate with the minimum potential side effects is the trick. Since no studies have been done, the right combination is still unknown, and one should proceed with great caution, and under the supervision of a qualified physician. But one possibility is to decrease the amount of sodium from baking soda by supplementing with other sources of carbonate buffer. To calculate the amount of any salt that is bicarbonate, refer to the periodic table or consult a physician."

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3/12/12 7:50 P

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Chemically, if baking soda works, so should Tums. Alkaline pH...

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3/12/12 5:01 P

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That would make it a bit easier, and a gout attack would raise your BP anyways, so not sure if the baking soda would make it any worse than gout pain.

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3/12/12 4:00 P

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My dad actually had a prescription for baking soda pills. He had damaged kidneys and his blood ph was too acidic, so he took a baking soda pill every day, but if he happened to run out he could substitute the regular soda disolved in water.

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3/12/12 3:43 P

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Not sure if I could make myself take 2 teaspoons of baking soda in 4 of my glasses of water. That would rank up there with Alka Seltzer, and the goo they make you drink for the ?? MRI.. barium or something. YUCK!

very interesting article though.. my biggest concern would be the higher BP.

I knew my lasix would be a cause of gout, but didn't know about aspirin. I took 350 mg pills for 5-6 years. Now I use the baby aspirin. Must have skimmed over that one..lol. Must be my brain shut down from lack of carbs!


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LOL! Yes, but I think you're supposed to avoid aspirin, no?

"Finally, it is interesting to note that aspirin has a very different effect on the blood level of uric acid when it is taken at very high doses, such as is prescribed by doctors for treating serious forms of inflammatory arthritis (like rheumatoid arthritis). In these very high doses, aspirin actually blocks the normal reabsorption of uric acid by a different part of the kidneys, thereby causing uric acid to be dumped out of the body in the urine and resulting in a lowering of the blood level of uric acid.

"However, because of the effects of moderate and high-dose aspirin, which can alter the blood level of uric acid, aspirin and aspirin-containing products (see below) are generally avoided by people with known gout."

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No, but now I am super-inspired to try Alka-Seltzer for my next attack. Same principle, no?

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I found this concept pretty interesting:

http://www.best-gout-remedies.com/baking
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My dad had damaged kidneys, due to an untreated UTI that went unchecked for years. His kidney function was greatly diminished, and it resulted in his blood pH being too acidic, so for the last several years of his life his only prescription medication was daily bicarbonate of soda pills. His blood pressure remained stable, and he never changed his other eating habits, so it seemed to have little negative impact overall.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has ever tried this out.

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