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Hi! I'm a member of the Living Low Carb (Atkins and other plans) team, and one of the team members was diagnosed with gout. It appears that no one else on our team had any input on what diet was appropriate for him to lessen the chance of another episode, but we did locate this link:

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2009/10/05/gout/

Can anyone here confirm that high levels of fructose seem to aggravate the condition? The research says that, though meat has high levels of purine, it doesn't actually seem to be the worst culprit, but sugar does seem to have a strong effect. Just curious as to what peoples' experiences were.

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Good afternoon All, I am so pleased to have found this site. I have gout,inherited from my Father, and am trying to control it with diet and weight loss. I have been eating vegie for three weeks and have gained 2 pounds!Something is wrong here.
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Hi everyone. As supplements have been on my mind lately, I thought I would point out a place that sells a gout-friendly multi-vitamin. The site is www.goutcure.com

I have issues with the term "gout cure", but the site makes it clear that the products help you manage gout, not cure hyperureicemia. I have used their main product with moderate success. You know from my previous posts my feelings on high vitamin doses. But I don't want to avoid a post if it may be helpful to the team.

Holla back if you have an opinion on it.

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In gout nutrition, the first thing we are told is to eat less foods containing purine. While the list of such foods is long, seldom does much useful information accompany this advice. Successfully managing gout is more complicated than simply avoiding meat and alcohol. If it were so easy, we wouldn't have it at all! How helpful this advice will actually be depends on why you have gout to begin with. Why you have it involves a thorough medical investigation, which most people do not get.

You can have elevated uric acid and not have gout. You can have low uric acid and have gout. Diet definitely makes an impact - but it is not the final solution for most of us.

Drinking too much fizzy soft drinks is the latest "hot topic" of gout medicine. After looking at this issue more closely, I was amazed to find that nothing I read mentioned the most important issue of sugary drinks - most of them have a low pH. This includes soft drinks and fruit juices. This means that when you consume these drinks, you add acids to your diet.

Another point not mention at all in these popular studies is that certain enzyme deficiencies that help metabolize sugars in the body make the problem worse. So unless you have a lack of the enzymes that metabolize sugar, I'm very skeptical that the sugar, for it's own sake is the easy solution to the problem.

Because chemically, sugar (sucrose), C6H12O6, contains H and OH- H an acid, OH alkali -when dissolved in water it dissolves as intact molecules and does not ionize. Since sugar molecules do not lose any H+ or OH- ions, sugar is not considered an acid.

So I'm still stumped. At any rate, the drinks mentioned are, on the whole, acid not alkali, and we can just not consume them, to keep acids out of our body. I guess I don't have to completely understand the chemistry of sugar metabolites in order to avoid it, but I want to.

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This sounds like a yummy recipe using tofu instead of eggs. Please go to the link to get your 3 SparkPoints and the full details of this recipe's nutrition values.

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Eggless Egg Salad (Tofu)

Submitted by VEGANMIKE

Got this from pg 256 of Vegan Living (complete idiot's guide to) book. But, like any good salad you can make this one your own by tweeking the recipe. All appropriate credit to them but I wanted to add it here for anyone else eating vegan. I hope that's ok. Great for picnics or other occassions where you might normally have egg salad. My first shared recipe. Enjoy.

90 Minutes to Prepare and Cook


Ingredients

1 lb firm tofu
1 1/2 tsp fresh or bottled lemon juice
1/2 tsp sea salt
1/4 tsp onion powder
1/4 tsp tumeric
1/4 tsp celery seed
1/8 tsp freshly ground black pepper.
1/3 cup celery diced
1/4 cup green onions sliced
1/4 cup fresh parsley chopped
2 TB prepared pickle relish (I use sweet)
1/2 cup Vegan Mayonnaise (of your choice)


Directions

Squeeze block of tofu over sink and remove as much water as possible. Crumble pieces into bowl. Also add celery seed, black pepper, parsley and celery if you like them. Add spices and let chill 10 minutes. Then add veggies and vegenaise and let chill covered about an hour. Have on a salad, or sandwhich, on its own, with veggies, pita, tortilla chips, tortilla or other flat breads, etc. You could make this into an appetizer too for parties. Enjoy.

Number of Servings: 6

Recipe submitted by SparkPeople user VEGANMIKE.
Number of Servings: 6

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Some suggestions from SP about foods in season for Fall!! Make sure you are not allergic to any of these foods before buying, and definitely make sure that none of these do not make your gout worse!!!

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What to Eat This Fall
Enjoy the Season's Freshest Foods
-- By Liza Barnes, Health Educator

For most of us, eating seasonally is a foreign concept. Many people don't even know that foods have a season, let alone what foods are in season at any given time of year. In the US, we enjoy practically unlimited access to any food at any time of the year. Tomatoes in December are nice, but not without consequences. Flavor suffers, nutrient levels decline, and environmental impact soars with each mile a food must travel to reach its ultimate destination.

Seasonal food, on the other hand, is fresh and local! Boasting a host of benefits, including better flavor, more nutrients, and less environmental burden, it's usually picked just hours or days before you buy it (while standard supermarket produce can weather many days or even weeks in transport). It’s also healthier for the environment because the food has traveled a shorter distance, meaning fewer fossil fuels are used in its transport from the farm to your table.

Possibly the best benefit though, is that seasonal food is always interesting, as each season brings a new crop of foods that you haven't had for an entire year. Before you've had a chance to tire of its bounty, the season changes to bring new, flavorful foods to add to your pantry.

Shopping for seasonal foods is easy—a fun trip to your local farmer's market will yield the majority of the ingredients you need. Availability will vary from region to region, but here's a general list of foods that make fall their season, along with tips on how to incorporate these ingredients into your meals.

Fall Vegetables

Squash. Acorn, butternut, and pumpkin are among the most popular fall choices. They look beautiful, but can be slightly intimidating when they're sitting on your countertop. Transforming them into a tasty dish is actually quite simple with these two methods.

Option 1: Peel, cube and steam the flesh until tender.

Option 2: Halve and bake face-down (with skin intact) in a 425-degree oven until the skin can be easily pierced with a fork (about 45 minutes to an hour). Once cooked, season with butter, salt, and pepper for a savory flavor; or butter, cinnamon and maple syrup for something sweet.

Cauliflower. Cut into bite-size pieces, and steam until fork-tender (about 5 minutes) and top with butter and a dash of salt.

Celeriac. Soups and salads both benefit from the addition of celeriac, a root vegetable that has a celery-like flavor. It can be eaten raw or cooked.

Mushrooms. Take advantage of the ephemeral wild mushroom season by stocking up when you can. Look for mushroom hunters at your local farmer’s market. Mushrooms are delicious in stir-fries or sautéed in butter and tossed into a veggie wrap.

Parsnips. Boasting a sweet, earthy flavor, these carrot-like root vegetables are a must in any fall stew.

Sweet potatoes. Enjoy this simple, vitamin-rich vegetable peeled, cubed, and steamed until tender, or bake it like a regular potato. Top it with butter, cinnamon, and a drizzle of maple syrup or honey.

Swiss chard. Rich in calcium, this dark leafy green is mild in flavor and easy to prepare. Thoroughly wash and chop leaves and stems, and steam for about five minutes. Then toss in a skillet with olive oil and garlic until wilted, just a few minutes more. Drizzle with hot pepper vinegar or soy sauce for a delicious side.

Fall Fruits

Fruit is always easy. It is ready to eat, tastes great, and kids love it. But if you're looking for some new ways to incorporate fruit into your menu besides the "grab and bite" technique, try fruit smoothies, fruit cobblers and fruit-topped pancakes and French toast.

Apples. Try them baked with sweet potatoes and raisins. Or sauté them in butter in a skillet until tender, then sprinkle with cinnamon and drizzle with maple syrup.

Figs. Try fresh figs stuffed with goat cheese, cooked into a sauce and served over vanilla ice-cream, or right out of the box.

Grapes. Grapes are a great snack food. They also make a yummy breakfast beverage when blended with vanilla yogurt.

Pears. Try pears on the grill. Cook until tender, then sprinkle with a pinch of sugar and enjoy (quickly!) with vanilla ice cream.

Fall Seasonings

If you've done a little cooking, you probably know that the seasonings can make the meal. Here are some seasonal seasonings for your fall suppers.

Ginger. To peel fresh ginger root, scrape with the edge of a small spoon. Mince and add to marinades of stir-fries.

Garlic. Fresh garlic is most flavorful in the fall. Mince it and add it to soups, stir-fries, and guacamole for a kick. If you're really adventurous, peel and roast whole cloves to add to your favorite dishes.

If your pantry isn't stocked with the season's tastiest and most nutritious staples, then get yourself to your local farmer's market and add flavor to your meals with the best autumn seasonings. To find a farmer's market near you, visit www.localharvest.org, and enjoy the bounty of fall!


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I ate a MorningStar Farms grilled veggie pattie this weekend, and it was soooo good!!! I highly recommend any of you try it.



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Here's a yummy-sounding tofu enchilada recipe from SP. Remember to get your 3 SparkPoints when you go to the link.

www.sparkpeople.com/resource/recipes.asp?c
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Tofu Enchiladas

Fat: 8.0 g
Carbohydrates: 49.1g
Calories: 334.8
Protein: 17.7g

A yummy vegetarian dish; leave out cheese to make a vegan dinner.

1/2 block extra firm tofu, sliced
24 leaves arugula
1/2 cup chopped tomatoes
1 can pinto beans (approx. 2 cups)
1-1/8 cup brown rice, cooked
1 cup shredded low fat cheese
1-10 oz can enchilada sauce
6 flour tortillas
Red & Black pepper

Brown tofu slices in a non-stick pan without oil.
Sprinkle with red/black pepper to taste.

Put a couple spoons of sauce in cake pan & spread with spoon.

Put together enchilidas with:
3 slices of tofu
4 leaves arugula
1/6 cup of tomatoes
1/4 cup pinto beans
3 tbsp brown rice
1 tbsp cheese
1 tortilla

Roll up the enchilidas & place in cake pan.

Cover with remaining sauce and sprinkle remaining cheese on top.

Bake 30 minutes at 350*F or until cheese is slightly browned.


Number of Servings: 6

Recipe submitted by SparkPeople user H3DAKOTA.


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And, here are some tips to cutting calories from your diet from SP! Remember to get your 3 SparkPoints when you go to the link and read the article.

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Here are some "myth busters" about caloris from SP. Remember to get your 3 SparkPoints when you go to the link.

www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_art
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Note: Sorry about this: Every once in awhile my computer does strange things when I add links.

I found this article about gout nutrition in my research wanderings:
www.bellaonline.com/articles/art5218.asp

There are some other useful links with this article, and I will not post them unless one of you is unable to get them through the link above.


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Nutrition Site
Moss Greene
BellaOnline's Nutrition Editor

Foods that Cause Gout and Natural Solutions

Foods that cause gout were historically available only to the very rich. That's why gout was called “the disease of kings.”

But in our modern world nearly everyone can indulge in "rich" foods and alcohol. That's why over two million Americans suffer from gout – just like King Henry VIII.

Foods that Cause Gout

Recent research, published in The New England Journal of Medicine, followed 47,150 men over a 12-year period. By the end of 12 years, 730 were diagnosed with gout. And the research team was clear which foods cause gout and how to prevent it.

The head of research, Dr. Hyon Choi of Harvard Medical School, found that gout-causing purines come mainly from certain seafood and most fatty meats – particularly red meat. Each serving of beef, lamb or pork increased gout risk by 21%.

• Those who ate the most meat and seafood were 50% more likely to have gout than those who ate the least amounts.

Foods that Don't Cause Gout

Not all purine-rich foods cause gout. Even though some vegetables are high in purines, they don't increase the risk.

• Those who ate asparagus, peas, beans, cauliflower and spinach were unaffected, even though these foods are high in purines.

• Chicken, grains, fruits and vegetables were found to be risk-free.

• And the amount of protein in the diet made no difference at all.

Certain dietary measures can actually help prevent flare-ups.

Steps for Prevention and Relief

Choi's study discovered the best all-around diet for gout is basically the same as a good heart-healthy diet. And he also found that dairy could help.

• Two daily servings of low fat dairy were linked to a 50% decrease in gout.

Plus, since obesity causes high uric acid levels and puts extra stress on joints, maintaining healthy weight is important. But severe dieting, fasting and low carb diets (high in fatty meats) raise uric acid levels. So take it sensible, slow and easy.

For healthy weight loss and prevention, Dr. Choi recommends a diet “rich in fruits, vegetables, and low-fat dairy.”

Some Liquids Help and Some Hurt

Drinking plenty of water flushes uric acid crystals out of the body. So drink up.

But, since alcohol raises levels and interferes with uric acid removal, it’s extremely important to limit or eliminate alcoholic beverages from your diet.

• Alcohol was a major cause of flare-ups.

Most non-alcoholic fluids are fine. But drinking 10 to 12 glasses of pure water daily is your best bet. You'll notice a big difference fast.

How Fish Oil Can Help

Here's where it can get confusing. While eating most seafood was shown to cause problems, omega 3 fish oil is highly recommended for healthy joints, heart health and as a natural pain-killer for those suffering from the disease.

How does Dr. Choi reconcile this contradiction?

“By taking fish oil capsules, rather than eating a lot of seafood,” he says, you can get all of the omega 3 benefits of fish without the problem causing purines. So, for safe natural relief from gout and joint pain, Dr. Choi recommends fish oil supplements.

You can check out my recommendation at Omega-3.



Edited by: JANEXA at: 8/7/2008 (15:57)
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This is part of the Gout & Uric Acid Education Society that was a link in the Maurice Cheeks article on SP's Health News. The link to this site is at the bottom of this post. I will post more from this site soon.

Diet plays a role in the management of gout. Foods rich in purines, as well as large amounts of foods containing a moderate concentration of purines, should be avoided as they increase the amount of uric acid in the blood and may trigger a gout attack. See the sidebar for a list of foods containing purines.

Purines are the very basic molecular building blocks of DNA and RNA. As the body breaks down purines in foods - uric acid is formed.

It is best to base your diet on low-purine foods such as low-fat dairy products, fresh fruit and vegetables, nuts and grains. It is important to work with your physician and/or a certified dietitian to determine the diet that is appropriate for you.

High-Purine Content
Gout patients should consume foods in this group sparingly

Anchovies
Beer
Bouillon (meat based)
Brains
Broth (meat based)
Clams
Consommé
Goose
Grain alcohol
Gravy
Heart
Herring
Kidney
Lobster
Mackerel
Meat extracts
Mincemeat
Mussels
Oysters
Partridge
Roe (fish eggs)
Sardines
Scallops
Shrimp
Sweetbreads
Yeast (baker's and brewer's) taken as a supplement

Moderate-Purine Content
Gout patients should limit their consumption of foods in this group

Beans, dried
Fish (except those in the high-purine content list)
Lentils
Meat (except those in the high-purine content list)
Mushrooms


www.gouteducation.org/

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I found the following cookbook specifically designed for people with gout:

www.bestmall.com/wp/gout_diet/?ysmwa=D2iEi
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I cannot tell if it is still available, but it is only $16.95, and probably requires shipping and handling fee. You supposedly can try it risk-free, but if you are like me, will probably end up keeping it because I either forget when I'm supposed to return the item, or figure, might as well keep it, and not bother sending it back. LOL

Here is more info about the cookbook, "Gout Haters Cookbook:"

www.wellnesspartners.com/gout_diet/

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Here is the link for a herbal supplement to treat gout:

www.goutcure.com/

Again, I have no idea if this stuff would really work. Their website seems to have a lot of good information about gout, so who knows if this would work for any of you. One bottle of 90 tablets is $22.00. The more quantities you get, the less each bottle costs, e.g. 3 to 5 bottles are $21.00 each, 6 to 11 bottles $20.00 each, and 12 or more $18.25 each.




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You're very welcome, Sandy. I'm finally doing some research for you, and I'm sorry it's been such a long time between research posts. You know me and my terrible memory issues! emoticon

Here are the two mini-articles about gout nutrition/diet that I found on the Mayo Clinic site and the corresponding links. As I mentioned in the "All About Gout" thread, you know most of this information already, either by personal experience or your own research.

Gout diet

No specific dietary changes are proved to reduce your risk of gout. However, it may make sense to eat foods that contain fewer purines. If you want to try a gout diet, try to:

- Cut back on the amount of red meat and seafood you eat.

- Avoid alcoholic beverages.

- Eat more low-fat dairy products.

- Eat more complex carbohydrates, such as whole-grain breads.

Choose portions that allow you to maintain a healthy weight. Losing weight may decrease uric acid levels in your body. But avoid fasting or rapid weight loss, since doing so may temporarily raise uric acid levels.
www.mayoclinic.com/health/gout/DS00090/DSE
CTION=9



Self-care

Take care of your body during a gout attack. While you're waiting for your medications to take effect, you may find it easier to cope with pain and inflammation if you:

- Reduce the amount of animal protein you eat. Government guidelines advise eating no more than 5 to 6 ounces of lean meat, poultry or fish a day for nearly everyone — especially people who have gout, because high-protein foods increase the blood level of uric acid. Organ meats (liver, brains, kidney and sweetbreads), anchovies, herring and mackerel are particularly high in purines.

- Avoid alcohol. Alcohol can inhibit the excretion of uric acid. If you're having a gout attack, it's best to avoid alcohol completely.

- Drink plenty of liquids. Fluids help dilute uric acid in your blood and urine, so be sure you get enough water and other fluids every day.
www.mayoclinic.com/health/gout/DS00090/DSE
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Hi, Ladies! I found a hopefully handy article about gout nutrition. It has a chart listing low, medium, and high purine foods. Here's the link: www.scribd.com/doc/138316/Gout-and-Nutriti
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It was copyright in 2007, so it should include the most recent research regarding gout nutrition. Of course, some of the low purine foods may NOT be what your individual body can eat, but this is a starting point.


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This is a fairly short article about food intake for those afflicted with gout. The link is at the bottom of this post.

Gout Nutrition
By Ken Marlborough

Perhaps the most infuriatingly difficult part about having to suffer gout is the seemingly endless list of food you are not allowed to eat. Certain diseases like hypertension, diabetes, and of course, gout, require special diets that should be strictly followed. Gout is an acute form of arthritis that is caused by the crystallization of excess uric acid in the soft tissue of the joints. One can get uric acid from many different kinds of food. This article will guide gout sufferers on which foods are safe to eat and which ones that should be avoided.

Gout-friendly foods

Fruits are very good for people with gout. Be sure to eat plenty of fruits, especially cherries. Drink its juice as well. Cherry juice has been reported to decrease the levels of uric acid in the blood, but there are still no official findings of its therapeutic effect. Fruits high in vitamin C like orange, lemon, and grapefruit are highly recommended. Complex carbohydrates should come from brown rice and whole wheat bread. Protein-rich foods like fish and lean meat like chicken breast are allowed. Soy products are a great source of protein, too. Water is the best beverage for gout sufferers. High water intake is necessary to flush out any excess uric acid from the bloodstream. Drinking eight to twelve (or more) glasses of water is highly advisable.

Avoid these at all costs

Unfortunately, there are many foods that people with gout should avoid. Red meat, organ meat, and shellfish are off the menu so pass up on the steak, baked oysters, and sausages whose casing is actually intestine. Steer clear of spinach, cauliflower, legumes, and beans because they are all notorious for causing a rise in uric acid levels. Alcohol intake should be regulated, or if possible, eliminated completely. Intake of simple sugars, oil, and salt should also be controlled. Removing all these foods from one's diet may be difficult, but if it means being able to walk normally and free from gout pain, then it may be worth it.

Gout provides detailed information on Causes Of Gout, Foods That Cause Gout, Gout, Gout Home Remedy and more. Gout is affiliated with Laser Printers.


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Here's an article discussing the vitamins and supplements that might help gout:

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Notice the free E-book you can access at the bottom of the article.
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I found this article which discusses food good for gout,and food that is bad for gout (high purine)

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I started back on my Liver Tonic capsules, and,after only 3 days,I can see a vast improvement in my BM's. I also started using probiotics. I think "they" can get carried away with supplements,though. I would rather spend the extra money on organic foods, and press some fresh veggie juice.

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Oooooh, thank you for the great information.

I'm going to see my doctor for bloodwork when I get back from NY, so I'll check with him re the Milk Thistle and chromium. Pray that I remember!!!

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Milk Thistle is an herb. It's main "treatment" is for liver toxicity. It is considered by many the best herbal liver tonic there is.

Chromium is a blood sugar regulator .. but I am really not sure how it works.

On the low carb program I started out on, I was to take 8 different supplements per day. I did for 2 weeks and then fell off the wagon ... I just HATE taking stuff. They were over $120.00 for a month's worth and I don't plan to spend that much every month on them.

I am supposed to take 2-500 mg psyllium husk fiber capsules per day, 1-1000 mg Vit. C, 1-1000 mg fish oil cap a day, 2 - 175 mg Milk Thistle (I take a lot of meds, I don't drink, but it should help anyway), 1-200 mcg of chromium, 1 high energy multi vitamin/mineral cap, 1 B complex cap, and 1 Bio COQ 10 60 mg cap a day. I must admit I felt better when I was taking them. I took part of it today and will try to work back up to everything.

I did feel better , but not $120.00 worth better.

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Milk Thistle is the main ingredient in my Liver Tonic capsules. I'll let Emily explain it to you. My most recent A1c was 5.6, and I was NOT on program. Thank God my pancreas is still kicking in! My short-term goal is to get my FBS under 120. I've done it before.

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What is Milk Thistle? I know you mentioned the chromium use in the Over 50+Over 50+ team, but can you remind me how it helps you? I remember that you suggested I should check with my doctor about using it, but don't remember how it helps you. Thanks!

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I like the low carb diet I am using. My fasting blood sugars went from 225-250 on a "regular" diet down to around 130-150 fasting with the low carb.

My AIC was 5.3 which is with-in normal range for a non-diabetic, so the doctor let me off on every 6 months check-up this time. I am hoping by next visit, I will get to lower some of my other meds.

Right now, I am not taking any diabetic drugs or statins (was on 1 statin and 4 metformin and 2 glyburide a day).

I was taking Milk Thistle for my liver for a little while, that seemed to hlep me feel more energetic. I need to get back to it. I also take 200 mcg of Chromium for my diabetes... which was also helping when I was taking it.

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No special diet--I am blessed that I can eat almost anything. The only things I cannot eat are most melons (except watermelons), most foods with MSG, beer, and wine. For some reason, my body rejects those foods, and my eyes start to itch and turn red, and I get a perpetual runny, itchy nose. I don't miss those foods much though because I can eat so many other things.

I SHOULD be on a special diet from salty and sweet junkfoods, but am working harder to control my portions and not binge. That's one of the reasons I joined Patricia's "Emotional Eaters" team. I know my body does not "need" those things, I just eat them out of boredom and habit. Not beating myself up about it, but working at keeping them off of my grocery lists and out of my kitchen!!



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No, I don't mind at all.

how many calories do you consume on average? 1500-1600 (spark people allows me 1700+-2000+)

How many carbs/day is in your range? 20-30 right now

Do you eat extra protein? Not really .. basically all I eat is protein LOL

What references do you use for guidelines?
(ie. specific diet,such as Adkins,Dietitian,are you using a plan from a book, do you belong to a low glycemic forum?)

Like most diabetics, I was told to eat over 180 gr. of carbs a day by my dietician .. I only saw them once during a class for new diabetics. I tried that for a while ... major weight gain.

I have followed TOPS (lost over 50 pounds once on strict 1200 calories a day), Weight Watchers (points lost 23 pounds) , calorie counting)with varying success. They are impossible for me to stick to for a lifetime.

At this time, I am just following an atkins type food plan .. counting carbs and staying under 30 (adkins beginning stage is under 20, too severe for my taste) I was using a book called Idiot Proof Diet ... which makes a lot of sense and is really funny, but now am just basically doing the low carb thing. I general stay within the fat and protein allowances made by spark people .. just lower carbs. I am SUPPOSED to drink 8 glasses of water a day, eat one 2 cup salad and maybe a low carb vege. I am getting a little tired of it after 3 weeks so may go to the next step .. start bringing in more fruit carbs and maybe some oatmeal.

What kind of weight loss results are you achieving?
I am doing ok .. a couple of [pounds a week until this week .. then I gained 2 and then lost 2 this week ... weird and it was a little discouraging. My 15 pound weight loss is a combo of the calorie counting that I was doing (gained most back and then lost again with low carb)

The main difference in the low carb and calorie counting is the lack of cravings on the low carb. That helps me not to binge and destroy what I have accomplished.

Something you didn't ask and something I am not sure of right now is: What impact is the high protein/low-carb going to have on my gout? I don't know and I may have to suffer for it.

I long ago gave up on trying to not eat every thing I am not "supposed" to have. I watched my mother "suffer" through all the trying to find something allowed to eat. She had diabetes, HBP, gout, glaucoma, high lipids .. almost the same litany of ills I have.

I try to walk a "middle road" moderation in all things but leave out nothing.


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I'm on a diabetic diet,low fat/dairy-free/high fiber for my liver. And low animal protein/low sodium for my kidneys. No processed foods(very limited)or preservatives,low sugar(limited,but not excluded) I haven't seen the dietitian since diagnosed with gout and ADD, but I'm sure there are dietary recommendations/restrictions.

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How about you, girly? Are you on a special food plan?
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MARY ANN-

You noted that you were on a low carb diet. If you don't mind answering some questions-

How many calories do you consume on average?
How many carbs/day is in your range?
Do you eat extra protein?
What references do you use for guidelines?
(ie. specific diet,such as Adkins,Dietitian,are you using a plan from a book, do you belong to a low glycemic forum?)
What kind of weight loss results are you achieving?


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This is the place to share what kind of food plan you're using, what triggers gout "bouts", things that are good for gout, supplements you take specifically for gout,nutritional questions,and even recipes.

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