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One must prevent and respond. For some people, both are readily achievable easily, cheaply, and over-the-counter. For others, nothing short of a regular regimen of prescription biochemicals will do.

A few prevention measures that seem to work for many - Drink water, limit animal protein (particularly red meat), limit/avoid fructose, beer, shellfish, tart cherry juice/extract.

A few responses to flare-ups that seem to work for many - Ibuprofen, compresses (jury is out on hot vs. cold - I'm in the cold camp), drink water, increase fruits and vegetables while avoiding citrus as gout crystals may be eliminated from your body as a liquid or possibly a solid. The real biggie is catching the flare early, recognizing it for what it is before it gets bad.

The jury is out - antacids, herbal remedies, acidic beverages, etc.

If Woubbie were here, we'd get a better lesson. This is what I seem to have learned though.

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I hadn't heard of this med...but am certainly going to remember it! Those reviews do look good.

I firmly believe with gout that the best strategy is to do whatever you can to PREVENT the attacks, not just respond to them. Each attack means more pathology happening in our joints, and much of the research shows related damage in other organs like heart, etc.... And this can be ongoing even when there is not "enough" of a problem to be actually crystallized out in a joint causing the oh-so-familiar- "Flare"!

Each of us has to decide what that looks like for our situation. For some, it means really concentrating on diet: omitting foods, adding in helpful foods...being very consistent and learning to avoid problem foods. For others of us, it means taking a med to keep our Uric Acid at a low enough level.
All the best everyone!!
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Looks like it gets some pretty positive reviews in general:

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Well. First flare-up in two years... always my right toe! Luckily, I was already _at_ the VA hospital when it happened... so I ended up with a "steroid shot" ??? And now I have a box of Methylprednisone timed-reduction tablets. Anybody know what that's about?

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Yeah, the Whole 30 sounds marvelous, but, well, frankly, I have a life. It would be tough to go all month without deviating. Of course, I don't have any major health issues that I'm trying to nail down, either. That makes a big, big difference. If I did, that would be a great way to force any food sensitivities out in the open.

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I'm looking at this more as a preventative (arthritis...) rather than a necessity...I'm fortunate to not have any identified sensitivities--excluding too many artichokes at once!! So that's in the FODMAP list... And if tomatoes are a problem for inflammation...well lets say that after last summer I should have been bedridden!! LOL the garden flourished...!

My sister and brother-in-law just finished a month of the Whole 30. He has lots of known issues--pork, dairy--being the worst; and both are overweight. He lost 17 lbs; she about 6. I haven't talked with them in the last few weeks, but know they were going to "take a break" for at least a bit ?! I'll have to check in and see how its going! I'm not convinced yet that I need to do the "whole Shebang..." or event he Anti-inflammatory....but never hurts to learn what is out there, and what might work....
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I thought that avoiding Nightshades had more to do with an autoimmune diet than an anti-inflammatory diet, but I'm not super familiar with either. Are you sensitive to any of those foods? (And yeah, it would be weird to include paprika in no-nightshades recipe, lol!)

One of the best "diets" you can do is the Whole 30. It's essentially a 30 day elimination diet that has helped a lot of people discover sensitivities they never knew they had. It's also both anti-inflammatory and auto-immune beneficial. It's also a real challenge, lol!

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Quack! Quack!! emoticon
Glad you're feeling better, and that just the Ibuprofen was all you needed.... Noting early on what is happening seems to be key to minimizing painful time periods. I think most of us early on didn't understand what was going on...or were mis-interpreting the symptoms (as in "its my bunion...)...or were just in denial!! When we learn to understand what our pain is telling us, we do much better!!

On a slightly different note: anyone here have much to say about "Anti-Inflammation Diet"??
On advice of my doctor, I'm starting to look into it; kind of surprised/confused at some of the foods they listed. For example: says to stay away from Solanaceae genus...like potato, tomato...and later on in one of the recipes the Healthy Tidbit is for Paprika (from the same Solanaceae family!!) Doesn't add up to me...! sigh...
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3/8/16 2:27 P

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Hmmmmmmmmmm.

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Could be.

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3/8/16 1:41 P

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Shoulder and upper arm flare-up? The circumstantial facts would so suggest:

less water intake, big steak dinner, woke up feeling like i had a torn rotator cuff or something, but responded nicely to ibuprofen and a hot shower, and within two days its like it never occurred.

So if it looks like a duck...



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3rd.... Thank you for thinking of me, but I shall respectfully decline at this time. emoticon
I'm not of the mindset to commit myself to more "responsibilities" (though they might be rather minimal) at this point in time. Lots going on outside of Spark...!! So even Spark is going to be kind of Hit and Miss for me in the coming months.

2nd---Great Idea!! I will look forward to reading the posts everyone contributes.... Cumulative "knowledge" is a wonderful resource...especially for the newly diagnosed.

Thanks for all you do!!
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Thanks, Patti, you always come up with such great information!

As usual, I started by reading the link you sent, and then ran off into the weeds, lol! Among the pearls of information I unearthed is this:

"An unintended consequence of the 2006 U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) safety program called the Unapproved Drugs Initiative through which the FDA sought more rigorous testing of efficacy and safety of colchicine and other unapproved drugs was a price increase of 2000 percent for "a gout remedy so old that the ancient Greeks knew about its effects." [Wikipedia]

It just makes me more and more determined to get on my soapbox and preach prevention to everyone I know! Stupid pharmaceutical companies!!

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On another note, I think we should start compiling everyone's experiences with effective and not so effective treatments. There's actually room for one more Forum here, so I'll tinker with it today and send out a SparkMail to the team announcing it and asking for submissions. It would probably be a great resource for newly-diagnosed sufferers.

And on a third note, would you be willing to become a Team Leader here? I'm not intending to drop off anytime soon, but if I did there would be no backup available.

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www.healio.com/rheumatology/gout/new
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Hmmm..... I know many folks out there don't like to take allopurinol, and thus occasionally endure flares of pain. It might be worth looking into this new "rub on" med for use during flares.... (My sister told me about it.....)
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yes.... and an important piece is that this doesn't just occur with gout....but with other crystal-mediated conditions. If this really holds true, and they can come up with a way to intercede, can you imagine the impact for persons prone to kidney stones, gall bladder stones, atherosclerosis...
The original research is sort of over my head in biochemistry too--LOL

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Interesting indeed! Pretty complicated stuff, I'll have to reread it after some more bulletproof coffee, lol! I read the article through and then went to the original research and WHOOSH! Brain drain! Maybe a second pass will sink in better!

I think the basic takeaway is that the crystals independently initiate cell death, and researchers can now investigate pharmaceuticals that interrupt that process, which also will "impede the development of chronic inflammation." Is that what you got?

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www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/30
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Interesting theory....
that the crystals cause cell death...which results in inflammation
rather than inflammation occurring then resulting in cell death... ?!!

This might explain the conundrum of Uric Acid being "anti-inflammatory" to some degree, and yet Gout is Inflammation Gone Wild!!

Hope everyone stays Flare Free this spring! ;)
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Lisa...love your entangled Reindeer...seems to sum up how many of us are being overwhelmed by the coming Holidays!!

I've actually been doing fairly good diet-wise since Thanksgiving: even during a week's trip down Vegas way. So currently proud of myself! And recognizing the challenge of keeping it together for the next three weeks of the Season!!

I did notice a bit of the old familiar swelling and pain down in the toe/ankle though.... hmmm....?!. so I will be keeping an eye on that, along with my supply of meloxicam. That med has worked well for me for pain relief, but I have fairly well tapered off from using it these past few weeks since I haven't been pushing the exercise. I already have labs scheduled later in January, so will find out where my uric acid level is then. No definite reason it should have changed any but I'm wondering?!! ** If the biology of gout morphs as one gets older, perhaps I need a med adjustment. I currently take low dose Allopurinol...and eat a fairly consistent diet. Will have to get out my list of foods again for a review...especially on some of the veggies!!

**EDIT: well, duh Patti! You have been kind of dehydrated this week...not drinking as much tea as usual. This *dawned* on me at 0300am when I woke up thirsty....sheesh.... Will I ever learn?! 1+1=2 emoticon

Take care folks---set yourself up to enjoy the holidays ahead, but without overdoing it!!
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So far so good (knocking on wood as I'm typing this) I have been on a bit of a bender since Thanksgiving so it's any wonder.

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I hope everyone's having a great, pain-free month so far. There are so many holiday temptations out there, and most of them are no good for gout sufferers! Hang in there, and enjoy the season!

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Knowledge is power! Maybe you can use this new insight to help you ratchet down your stress levels!

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Wobbie, I have both stress at work and at home, loads of it. In fact I don't remember the last time I wasn't a ball of nerves. Funny this always seems to happen to me and now at least I know I'm not alone and there is actually a name for it!


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Thanks, Patti, good reads! The second one is especially interesting; I'm pretty convinced that the medical community is all over the place with their understanding of gout and their recommendations for treatment and management. It would be great to see them actually put together some standard protocols based on experience with what works!

Lisa, I haven't noticed this personally, but my sister and niece are both prone to it. There's actually a term for it, it's called "leisure sickness" and might be triggered by the sudden dropoff of cortisol and other stress hormones when you suddenly relax after having run on adrenaline for a long time. Do you have a stressful job or personal situation? There's also a common phenomenon of getting sick right after exams:

scienceline.org/2007/01/ask-anderson
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Thanks Patti!

I'm getting ready to leave on vacation soon and it's so typical for me to get sick or have a gout attack right before emoticon I starting taking my indo right away and it's a lot better so hoping to kick it before we leave.

I have to admit I am disappointed to still be dealing with this I was really hopeful since I have lost some weight and changed what I am eating completely this would no longer be an issue for me, guess not. One really good thing when I feel it coming on I have been able to kick it quick before it's full blown and that's a REALLY good thing so I guess it is getting better?







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I found several interesting reads on Gout....
www.thestreet.com/story/13304909/1/g
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t-and-elevated-uric-acid-are-linked-R>to-several-serious-health-risks--yet
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I haven't looked at the brochures yet, but I'm planning to.

This second article talks about new *long term goals* for SUA, acknowledging that UA is an anti-oxidant and might play a role in preventing dementia, etc...!
www.philstar.com/opinion/2015/10/11/
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09407/misconceptions-can-hinder-goutR>-management


Hope everyone is enjoying a Gout-Free Autumn!! take care,
patti

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Good morning! Rainy and chilly today. Good day to be stuck at home. My car's still out of commission and DH had to work OT, so I'm not going anywhere! Which is OK. I still have a lot of tweaking and rearranging to do furniture-wise from the big piano move yesterday. A couple of things (like my printer and my Grandmother's old tube radio) are still homeless. So finding spots for them and doing laundry are the big deals of the day.

Have a great Saturday, all!

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Feeling much better today I skipped taking my Indo this morning since I had to work today and I don't like the way it makes me feel. And I did up my Vitamin C right away, I think I learned that from you! Thanks!!

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Me too! Might want to up your Vitamin C dosage too, just to cover all the bases.

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Foot feels a little better today I got my script for my Indo refilled this morning and plan to take it for another day of two. Thankfully the pain didn't move to my ankle and I will keep praying it won't. Drinking lots of water and will take more cherry concentrate as well as the cherry capsules I take everyday already. Fingers crossed.

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Good idea!

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I'm on my 4th bottle and will probably get another one in tonight. I always seem to drink more water when I'm working then when I'm home on the weekend, not sure why that is.

I have some concentrate cherry juice so I'm going to have a little of that although I'm not to happy it's high in carbs but it's worth if it helps.


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Ugh. I'm glad you at least have something you can take to reduce the duration. Are you staying pretty well-hydrated?

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It's been a long time since I have visited this team and an even longer time since I've had an attack. Well, I'm having a flare up right now :( It's been over a year since my last and I'm not sure what triggered this I have been eating LCHF since January and have lost 67 pounds since then so I was hoping I wouldn't have to deal with this anymore.

This attack is a little different then past flare up as in it's usually starts in my ankle but this time it's the joint in big toe and the top of my foot but, I know the pain for me at least can be in one place one day and then move to the other side of my foot the next. I'm praying it dosen't move to my ankle. I started my Indomethacin right away so fingers crossed.



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Ouch! I love tomatoes. That would be a hard one to avoid!

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www.newsmax.com/Health/Health-News/g
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who'd a thunk this one?!! I've never seen anyone here mention tomatoes....!! Since I have a whole long row of ripe lovely tomatoes...this is one time I'm glad I decided to take Allopurinol. (No gout flares since I started it...and no side effects...so Thanks to my Doc!!)
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Ooh! This looks to be the complete article:

www.medscape.com/viewarticle/830160

I'm out of time to read it tonight; hopefully lunchtime tomorrow. Thanks for posting it!

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That might be...food/drink choices do tend to change in warm weather.... And is well known that fructose--and Beer(!)-- isn't tolerated too well by most of us with gout.... I'd love to read the actual article and see if they sorted out anything by diet, or could go back to data and do so.

In which case it would be like the old standby for statistical irrelevancy: "The sales of ice cream in New York City correlates with increased mortality in India." No cause/effect relationship...but coincidence as hot weather causes both to increase...

What caught my attention is the "apparent" conflict with previous information I had. According to what I've read, gout attacks often occur in the early morning hours...because the body temperature of extremities go down at night. That coincided nicely with the fact that my worst ever flare(!) was after a day of snowshoeing in cold weather...the exercise, and my feet were damp/cold....

So I don't know! Isn't research fun though?!!
Hope everyone has a safe, and flare -free spring!
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XD I don't know WHAT it means, lol! High temps and low humidity? Think people drink more pop and lemonade?

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Another interesting tidbit about Gout.... and probably means Drink Your Water!! LOL As it is a short abstract (full article not available yet apparently) I just copied the whole thing....
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Am J Epidemiol. 2014 Aug 15;180(4):372-7. doi: 10.1093/aje/kwu147. Epub 2014 Jul 3.
Relation of temperature and humidity to the risk of recurrent gout attacks.
Neogi T, Chen C, Niu J, Chaisson C, Hunter DJ, Choi H, Zhang Y.

Abstract
Gout attack risk may be affected by weather (e.g., because of volume depletion). We therefore examined the association of temperature and humidity with the risk of recurrent gout attacks by conducting an internet-based case-crossover study in the United States (in 2003-2010) among subjects with a diagnosis of gout who had 1 or more attacks during 1 year of follow-up. We examined the association of temperature and humidity over the prior 48 hours with the risk of gout attacks using a time-stratified approach and conditional logistic regression. Among 632 subjects with gout, there was a significant dose-response relationship between mean temperature in the prior 48 hours and the risk of subsequent gout attack (P = 0.01 for linear trend). Higher temperatures were associated with approximately 40% higher risk of gout attack compared with moderate temperatures. There was a reverse J-shaped relationship between mean relative humidity and the risk of gout attacks (P = 0.03 for quadratic trend). The combination of high temperature and low humidity had the greatest association (odds ratio = 2.04, 95% confidence interval: 1.26, 3.30) compared with moderate temperature and relative humidity. Thus, high ambient temperature and possibly extremes of humidity were associated with an increased risk of gout attack, despite the likelihood that individuals are often in climate-controlled indoor environments.

The Author 2014. Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. All rights reserved. For permissions, please e-mail: journals.permissions@oup.com.

KEYWORDS:
case-crossover study; gout; humidity; internet; risk factor; temperature; weather
PMID: 24993733 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] PMCID: PMC4184385 [Available on 2015-08-15]

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(Too much time on my hands post foot surgery!) Here is another interesting article on Gout....put on your Science Brain to read this one...! The Japanese are coming up with some novel information which might be (eventually) used to help target therapeutic drug therapy without "trial and error" approaches. "Well, try this first..." They are also getting an understanding of the links with Diabetes, Metabolic Syndrome etc.

www.medpagetoday.com/Rheumatology/Ge
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Hi all! hope everyone is healthy and looking forward to the last few weeks of the "never ending winter" which many are enduring! (I'm luckier being out West!)

Currently I'm sidelined on the Couch Potato Team recovering from foot surgery: another Toe alignment job and the end of a neuroma. I'm confident this will be the last of my foot remodeling as well-- LOL And my surgeon said no sign of gout in there....!

My Uric Acid in late January was 4.4--WooHoo!! So no continuing problems there at this time nor in my forseeable future. I hope the same for everyone else with this dx. take care,
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Welcome to STANDNNAWE!! Here's wishing you all the best as you research and find the path which you are comfortable with....!

I believe we all come to this team with about as divergent of histories as possible in a gang of folks who share that one common diagnosis of Gout.

My own work background is that I'm Retired (Medical Technologist). Healthy & Very Active (walking, biking, gym, etc) & "close" to normal weight. I've never been more than 30 pounds above normal weight.
My personal medical history prior to Gout: the first 'related' diagnosis was High Blood Pressure & Cholesterol. My mom had really out of whack numbers on these (and family Hx of cardiac probs)...so I started meds, and am on very low doses for almost a decade. Then came Pre-Diabetes in 2007... happy to report that diet changes worked in this area...lost 25 lbs, and haven't had significant developments or changes since then. My Gout was Dx this year, & kind of out of the blue, during foot surgery. Most people have flares which lead to a Dx...in my case, it was tied into the pain from bunions & hammer toes...so NOT a stand-alone Dx; and I don't know of any "triggers" for myself.... No obvious reasons except I'm post menopausal, and had been taking a fair amount of Ibuprofen due to foot issues. As soon as the Dx was confirmed, I was off my low dose diuretic. (Good doctor!) I tried to lower my Uric Acid with diet...but didn't make any significant headway... so I've joined the Allopurinol group. (And taking one pain killer. Meloxicam, during the 3-6 month "bridge" time while my body rids itself of my tophi!) That bridge time is up this next month, so I'm very optimistic that I have this in control.

I have a half-brother and sister both diagnosed with gout and my sister recalls my Dad as having it (deceased 1986). My brother: the "classic" beer drinking 40-ish, overweight man...who ended up in bad (!) shape in the hospital w/ pancreatitis. The gout was the least of his problems!! Following that though, he hasn't kept up with meds because he has no flares. My sister's gout is mediated by cardiac problems which require long term diuretics and she's quite overweight.

Like I said...none of us come to Gout on the same path, and I think that affects how we can respond and seek to get it under control. My important goal is to NOT have gouty arthritis as I age!! If that means I take Allopurinol, I don't have a problem with that. I also still eat a fairly healthy diet, and had already taken steps to decrease the Ibuprofen before getting Dx.. Ironically the foot surgery which led to my Dx was for that reason! LOL Sometimes, Life just blindsides you!

Anyway...enough from me; I will look forward to reading more of your story... ....All the Best as you find your own path!
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Excellent link!

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ABSOLUTELY could not pass up sharing this!! There are 14 cartoons at the Gout Education Site...gotta read, gotta laugh!!

And the site itself is worth exploring...especially if you are new to a Gout Dx!
Hope everyone is having a wonderful, Flare -Free month. (And remember to avoid the excess of commercial treats made with High Fructose Corn Syrup!)
All the best,
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A silver lining! That makes sense. Alzheimer's is linked to metabolic syndrome, as is gout and a host of other ailments, and one thing they all have in common is inflammation.

"While the potential biological mechanisms behind this association of uric acid and cognitive health are still speculative, uric acid has proven antioxidative properties and has been shown in animal models to protect against oxidative stress-induced dopaminergic neuron death, he said."

It's a promising insight!

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Check this article out!! "Gout May Protect Against Alzheimers"
www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage
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Now, I'm not so sure ANY of us would want continued Gout Flares just to keep our Uric Acid levels high to (possibly) protect us from Alzheimers...but maybe someday they can come up with an intermediary level that is the best of both worlds! In the meantime, my "pain memory" is strong, and I will continue to keep my UA below 5 as my favorite Doc suggests! What I couldn't find in the article (or references) was what the min/max Levels of Uric Acid were in the study. How high is high...and how does that number relate to the known risk/association with cardiovascular risks...??

Hope everyone is planning for a great Thanksgiving weekend...!
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I actually had the opposite take on it...although I see your point....!

Since the statistics were derived from a group of people who ALL have gout, it would seem the women are more likely to be included in that group if we have any Metabolic syndrome issues....

I would like to see statistics from a group of men and women who all have Metabolic syndrome issues....and then see the relative percentages of women vs men who have gout.

Flip sides of the same coin?? Something I need to ponder more!! Too tired tonight--LOL
Have a great weekend,
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Wow! Great find!

I'm not surprised that women's experiences differ from men. It's nice to see medicine finally beginning to look at research from gender-based angles.

It's odd, though, that it seems that they're saying that women have to be in generally worse health to develop gout than men do - higher BMI, higher blood pressure, higher levels of kidney disease and diabetes. That could partly explain why men have gout at 3-4 times the rate that women do. Maybe women's systems offer more protection against it. Just speculating, of course.

Thanks for posting this!

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Hi All...
Ran across this article when I was reviewing older work-related emails. Its from Jun 2014. But I haven't seen it in the threads here... Some statistically interesting differences certainly! Maybe this is why I haven't found certain "trigger foods" yet...!

www.globalacademycme.com/click-for-c
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My gout seems to be in control mostly --some big toe aches/pains I keep thinking might be the start of a flare...but fortunately, nothing comes of it! My latest foot issue is a round of neuroma though, which my podiatrist gave me a cortisone injection for this week. Cautiously optimistic that its getting better....will know more in 3 to 6 weeks.

Hope everyone is doing well!!
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Food issues galore.

soft cheeses, red meat, shellfish, beer, probably in that order. Maybe more.

Hydration, exercise and sleep may stave off the momentary, mild indiscretion. Sometimes.

The only sure-fire cure I ever have found is reading words of wisdom from Woubbie.

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Hope you enjoy that Brie!!
I was never to the point of discovering food sources linked to a gout flare.... My only "really, really, bad" one was a weekend when we'd been out snowshoeing. It is only in retrospect that I **Know** it was gout, along with the bunion/toe issues I was having (which is all I thought it was..!). When I read that cold can trigger an attack, it was like OK, I've Been There, Done That!! LOL And, I hope never again.
I have confidence now though: we have reservations for the same January Weekend at Mt Rainier again this winter! WooHoo!!
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A full wheel of Brie would not frighten me now (usually Brie and I cannot co-exist in the same County). For I have Woubbie...


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I'm better still, now.

Woubbie commented. My plummeting uric acids are testament to the veracity of my observations.

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Boss, you're scaring me.

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So, has everyone heard the rumor that North Korea's dictator, Kim Jong Un, might be suffering from gout? Hmmm. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy....

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Since I started reading everything that Woubbie posts, I have been gout free. That simple. Try it.

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re UA levels: the authors did specify that it was "female gout patients" and "male gout patients"....

I believe in the general population (people undiagnosed with gout) that females frequently do have a lower level... Indeed, many labs have separate normal ranges for female/male even though there is considerable overlap. Where I used to work the normal ranges were:
Units: mg/dL
Female 2.9-6.3
Male 3.4-7.0
I find it interesting that my current provider has those lumped into one range..!
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Good point! I read this as implying that diabetes and gout share a root cause.

Isn't it surprising, though, that women tend to have higher uric acid levels on average, but lower levels of gout in general? Hmm. Don't know what that implies...

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chicken or the egg....gout or diabetes....!! emoticon

I think the take home message is for all of us to be "more alert" as we get older.

The other point to ponder was:
", the physiological impact of uric acid levels, which are high enough to cause gout, could be stronger among women than men. Furthermore, female gout patients may have higher SUA (serum Uric Acid) levels on average than male gout patients, which could also contribute to a larger association with the risk of diabetes among women, they suggested.

Another good reason to work to keep those UA levels low!! Take care,
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Try this one:

www.diabeteshub.com/article/gout-may
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Really interesting. This paragraph has some interesting hypotheses:

"Perhaps, 'low-grade inflammation among patients with gout promote[s] the diabetogenic process,' the investigators wrote. 'Alternatively, the link may stem from the shared metabolic factors of the two conditions, such as the correlates of the metabolic syndrome or shared genes. Furthermore, the link between hyperuricemia and the risk of type 2 diabetes may originate at the renal level, as insulin resistance and higher insulin levels are known to reduce renal excretion of urate,' they noted."

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A very interesting article indeed! Another reason to keep my gout under control, watch my carbs, and monitor my long term health issues! ( I'm not good with computer stuff, so I hope folks can access this...) Its an article out of Boston University, using data from the UK....

www.diabeteshub.com/news/type-2-diab
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Here's to a month of no pain, all gain....as we settle into our autumn routines! All the best everyone!
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Note: when I tried to get back to it, the link brought up the Diabetes Hub, then I had to manually click on "news", then "type 2 diabetes", then news and found the article...


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Don't get yourself banned too, Boss. SparkPeople is well within their rights to oust whoever they wish. I'm sure at some point on Day 1 we all signed a EULA and Terms of Use agreement that acknowledges that.

If you've ever wondered why you will seldom if ever see me posting on the Main Forums, there's your answer. They are heavily patrolled by Sparky Moderators.The individual teams that are "off-brand" are tolerated, and the low carb teams in general are public, but some of them have to be marked as "private/invitation only" to even exist, like the HCG diet teams.

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Voicing an official protest over the apparent ouster of our buddy Russell. What gives, SP?

Organizing a protest. Need ideas...

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Yay! Sounds like the colchicine is working! What a relief for you!

Probiotics are the critters themselves, like bifidobacteria or lactobacillus cultures in milk and yogurt and other dairy. You can get capsules or pills at GNC (expensive) or your local pharmacy or drugstore (not cheap, but you can shop around). Or you can just get dairy products with them if you're tolerant of dairy.

Prebiotics are (usually) starches that probiotics love to eat, but that we can't digest - they're basically fiber. You have to be pretty careful with them, cause introducing too much at once can make you really bloated and gassy! I don't take a separate supplement, but the sweetener brand I use, Sweetleaf stevia, has inulin, which is a prebiotic.

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Don't know anything about probiotics or prebiotics so will have to read up on them. Nothing else new except.....Praise God......my gouty toe/foot is feeling better which I am very thankful for. Have a great weekend!

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Well, the good news is that, if you can stick to a fairly low carb/Paleo plan, the diet itself is generally anti-inflammatory in a good way. High carb actually drives inflammation, and wheat is the worst offender of the bunch, it seems. Followed by sugar. Do you take probiotics and prebiotics? I've read a few things about the connections between gut health and auto-immune diseases.

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Hey Lady!

Thanks for your response. To answer your questions, I've been on coumadin (blood thinner) since 2003 when I had blood clots in both lungs and a stroke in 2001 right after I was dx with lupus and sjogrens. All this stuff with the bones started in the 90's when I started getting arthritis but I can't take antiinflammatories for the arthritis because it and the lupus interfere with my kidney function so I've been told to stay away from ALL of it. Hope the Colchhicine is not an anti-inflammatory that I shouldn't be taking but physician's assistant should know all this stuff!

And you are so right about the flowers, Love, LOve, Love them and this has been the FIRST summer in the last 20 probably that I was not able to get out and do my own container pots. I picked out two hibiscus (yellow and a peachy one) to hang by my step rail out front and my daughter and her boyfriend got two huge tubs and planted them with petunias for me. The only thing I need are a couple of baskets for the back and some red geraniums for the front. Just couldn't do it this year and I missed it.

Will be reading about the Autumn crocus and then the other site you gave me. I know I have to be careful about Vit. K and greens so will see what my doctor thinks. In addition, to the shots and med for gout (plus amoxicillin for an ear infection), I was also given a jug so they could have a 24-hour urine collection. Not my favorite thing to do. I was so glad when my 24 hours was up this morning!

I'll let you know when I know something. I go back June 24th so doubt I'll hear anything before then. She is also going to go over my bone density which came back again this time as having osteopenia so will probably be on some kind of monthly supplement or a once a year infusion. I hope it's not one of those ones advertised onTV that gives you all those cancer warnings. If it is, I"ll just take even more Vit. D3 and Calcium supplements rather than risk adding cancer to all the stuff I've got going anyway.Thanks again for your help and I hope the BOSS can give me some good info too when you catch up to him.

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Hi, Ginger - sorry, I've been a bit here-and-there-and-everywhere this week, but obviously not to THIS "here"!

I'm pretty sure that BOSS has had good success with Colchicine for acute flares. If he doesn't post here with a comment in the next couple of days I'll go poke his Spark Page. Can't remember offhand if RUSSELL has used it much. I know that they don't generally prescribe it for long because it is potentially toxic in larger doses.

Not surprisingly (to me at least, LOL!), it works like an anti-inflammatory, though I don't think that it technically IS an anti-inflammatory. And, if anybody cares at all, it's been a treatment for arthritis and gout since at least the time of the Egyptians. It's derived from the Autumn Crocus. I had to mention that because I know you love flowers!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn_crocus

As to the fracture, I'm no expert, but the process of healing actually drives inflammation. In this case inflammation is beneficial - it's part of the body's initial response to damage. Your best nutritional response at this point looks to be to continue to keep grains and other carbs low, make sure you're getting enough protein, and get lots of fat. (You actually require extra energy to heal.)

You should probably supplement too, if you can. More than calcium, you need Vitamin K and K2. I realize that might be problematic if you're on blood thinners, though (can't remember if you are or not). Anyway, here's a good quick summary of simple nutritional things you can do to promote healing. Run it by your doctor/s and see if any of the supplements are suitable for your situation.

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Knock Knock, anybody home?

Still having foot problems......stress fracture is NOT healing like it should and I've also got a bad case of gout. Saw doctor and got two shots on Tuesday which has helped somewhat......a steroid for the gout and pain shot for the foot and sciaitica pain. Also some Colcrys 0.6mg. Have you heard of this drug. Still in a world of hurting.

If that wasn't enough, the A/C went out after the serviceman left on Monday. Had to call them back, but it was a whole day later and it was so hot and humid in here. He was young and inexperienced and forgot to turn the A/C switch back on when he left. Since it is all outside and under the house, I had no idea. Anyway, thank you Lord, we are much cooler today. Just wish foot felt better.

Can't decide if I should go back to the podiatrist (have seen 2x & been x-rayed 2x) about the stress fracture or go to an orthopedic doctor. What do you think? Any experience with stress fractures? I need all the help I can get!

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Hi everyone,

In the middle of a HORRIBLE gout attack that has quite literally brought me to tears. I've had a stress fracture in bones #3 and #4 of the metatarsol bones of my L foot that just won't seem to heal.

My bone density two years ago and again two weeks ago has come back showing osteopenia so I'm not surprised, but very discouraged. I've had three breaks since winter of 2012.....a rib in 2012, 2 small fractures in my lumbar spine last summer and this winter the two stress fractures in my L foot.

For years, I did not have a gout attack and then last year it started up in my R big toe (outside bone that gets hot and red). I"ve never had it in my L big toe (outside bone again) before until last week and it HURTS!

Called doctor and was told to up my prednisone from 15 mg a day (which I take for two auto immune diseases - lupus & sjogrens) to 30 mg a day for four days and see her on Tuesday when I go back to get my coumadin levels checked.

I did low-carb in 2011-2012 to lose weight for a big surgery so I know it is not my diet, although I'm not sure what could be causing it. Podiatrist hesitates to prescribe uric reducing meds without my main physician doing it because of so many health problems. Do any of you think that the stress fracture could be contributing to this attack.....since I never had it in the L foot before until this happened.

I've been reading all of Woubbie's info on gout and have it on my list to get some Vitamin C to take and also some cherry extract (preferably liquid someone said). I CANNOT take any anti-inflammatories because they along with the lupus affect my kidneys in a bad way and the nephrologist has told me to stay away from them. I have even taken some morphine tablets that I have for my back and sciatica pain and that doesn't even touch this gout pain.

It gets discouraging when you seem to hurt all the time and are not able or just do not feel like doing anything, although I continue to move around as much as I can.....ha ha....especially since I take from 40mg to 8mg of lasix everyday because of terrible fluid retention and having lymphodema in my R leg.

Any good suggestions would also be appreciated. I'm going to try the 1/4 tsp of soda in water as well like someone suggested. Not sure of the logic behind this. My sweet mother who would be 104 years old this August used to give it to me as a child for an upset stomach.....she always said it will either kill ya or cure ya. well, it sweetened my stomach and I never threw up so that was a good cure back then.

Hope to see some ideas here and thanks to all.

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Good find! Here's a link to the original Health Day article:

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"What we are learning from the dual-energy CT scans has really changed our perception of where gout can occur and how it can manifest," Bongartz said. "The ability to visualize those deposits clearly broadens our perspective on gout."

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CT Scans Might Help Diagnose Gout in Some Cases

This is a Sparks Health article that I found today on a new study about gout.

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Good shopping! I'm hopeless at waiting for sales. If I need something I generally need it right now cause I've been putting off getting it in the first place, lol!

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Hope everyone is doing great.

My old Oral B. Electric Toothbrush died, so I was waiting for a sale. They are $64.99 at Walmart and at the Navy Exchange they were $59.99, so they went on sale this week at $15 off. When I got it home I found a $20 gift card deal in it IF I go on-line and answer a survey & put in the Code number, plus another $10 in coupons on brushes for it, if I go to another site and put in the code there and answer a few questions. So, not a bad deal at all. emoticon There was nothing on the box about these coupons/gift card inside.

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emoticon RUSSELL_39 is the MOTIVATOR OF THE DAY. He so deserves that honor. emoticon

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Indometh, Jibbie. And drink water. Lots.

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My gout has flared up after T'giving dinner. emoticon

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Yea, I know what to do. Been here and done that. My own fault... damn yummy carbs.

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Aw, Boss, that sucks. Hopefully, since you know what to do, it'll pass quickly this time.

I was thrilled this year that my niece actually deliberately brought not one but TWO low carb side dishes to the Thanksgiving dinner. She made a green bean and cheese casserole with crispy onions on top and a really delicious no-sugar cole slaw. (Need to get that recipe!) For once my sister didn't eyeroll as I passed on the bread, stuffing, potatoes, and creamed corn. It was a Thanksgivikah miracle!

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Thanksgiving - Guess what happened to me, because of declaring T-Day a Spark-free day? And I thought I was really on top of this, and that flares were behind me... Left top-of-foot this time... ugh...

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Hear, hear! June started off great, but I fizzled out that last week and a half. I'm ready to take on some new challenges!

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Hope everyone is having a good JULY. Let's make this a great month.

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One of the things I did a couple of years ago that really made a dent on the food budget was to commit to buying a lot less fast food. And when we do, it's from the dollar menu! I spent almost $1000. less on groceries/food the first year alone! We still eat too much processed junk (the boys especially - OH! all that sugary cereal!!!) but we're slowly getting there. Compared to most of their friends we cook WAY more food from scratch.

My older son even notices now that when he spends a day or so at his friends' houses eating crap and pounding down the sodas that he gets what he calls "soda belly" - he actually gains about 5 pounds of retained water weight and feels like junk for a day or so afterward. He has my body type, and I've warned him that after his teenage "growth" years are over he'll probalbly always need to watch what he eats to some extent. At least I can give him the benefit of what I've finally learned after 50-some years, rather than having to figure it all out on his own.

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Yeah, she does it very well on buying the right foods and all?

But a lot of food she buys I cannot have because of certain things I have ugh,


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As far as I know, SIMPLEMAW isn't on food stamps either. She just challenges herself to eat foods that cost less than $4. a day to challenge the notion that eating a low carb menu is too expensive for most people. MAW can really stretch a dime and still eat pretty well!

Most whole foods just cost a lot less than prepared or processed ones. Now, if you're looking at top quality or specialized foods, like organic veggies or grass-fed beef, then THAT will get pretty pricey!

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Popping in to wish everyone a great Monday emoticon


Anyway just wanna say stay out of that Heat if possible emoticon

Im not on food-stamps Woubble?


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I have just the SparkFriend for you! BUDGETMAW is the BEST at doing low carb on a tight income. In fact, she frequently does a "food-stamp" challenge, where she eats within her state's monthly food stamp allotment for 30 days. THAT'S a pretty tall order, but it's absolutely doable. Check it out here if you're interested:

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Were on a budget right now hard to really do away with everything like you want me to do,
so I will just have to see how things go right now.

"Thanks Anyway For Your Help" Today is My Last Day Being On That "Prednisone Pills"
so maybe things will get better soon and I can be on my way to a better me again I hope.


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Bobbi, any chance you follow a lower carb eating plan? It would probably help with all your issues, including the gout.

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I do too that is the only thing that worries me...but if it does I will just have to get,
myself back on track prayers that it don't Ugh.

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Hope it helps! The worst thing about the prednisone is the possible extra weight gain. Ugh. Hope you dodge that one!

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I still have a lil pain but they gave me "Prednisone Pills" and I have to take them for,
5 days and today is only my 2nd day and I have 3 more days to go on them,
my foot seems to letting me walk a lil more than I did with hubbys help of course,
I don't know what I would do w/o him.

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Very interesting the you tube

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Posting a link to the Youtube series. Thanks again!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0zD1gj0pXk

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Ugh. Sorry you're having trouble again.

I think that there's not a lot of actual proof that red meat causes flares; scientists had focused on the purines in the meat and made an assumption that they are the underlying cause for a flare. For most people that is wrong.

That's not to say that it isn't a trigger food for SOME people, it most certainly is, just that it's not all that common, and these days sugar, and fructose in particular, are MUCH more common triggers. Things that cause inflammation likely cause gout flares, and sugar is a major player.

I was glad to see that you listed Dr. Lustig on your SparkPage. I hadn't watched that particular series, but I'm glad you mentioned it! Looks great! I'll watch it this weekend!



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I had a flair up the other day after eating some fudge candy. Seems like sugar is my issue and that meat really doesn't bother me. I can't eat beans of any kind or I have a flair up. I'm not on medicine for it.

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Great to hear! It's a blessing when someone checks in here just to confirm that they're OK!

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How"s eveyone doing with there gout ? I am still fine so far.

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