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Fitness Minutes: (10,207) Posts: 1,257 2/23/09 5:56 P
Ceebee200--I hear you about the "craziness & obsession". I found myself traveling down that same road too as I counted calories day-in and day-out.
To keep focusing on those vital weightloss habits Dr. Gould lists in his book, I entered each one in my "Other Goals" so that I could check off all the ones I practiced each day. This allows me to easily follow SY on SparkPeople in a points-building way.
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current weight: 153.4
Posts: 7,532 2/22/09 10:33 P
I'm glad you acknowledged the importance of changes in attitude. When you think of it, we all want to feel a certain way about ourselves and that feeling can be completely independent of what we look like. I know I'll still take feeling better about my looks now than trade for weighing twenty pounds less as I used to but also grieving over my body as I did as well.
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Posts: 202 2/22/09 3:55 P
Hey Carri - Slightly late to the thread, but here's my 2 cents: for me, tracking my food triggers all kinds of craziness and obsession. I'm glad I tried it when I first joined Spark because it helped me realise that I just don't eat enough protein, but I had to stop after a couple of months because it was really setting me off down a bad road. I've gained weight since being on Spark (and I'm not proud of it, nor am I saying you'll do the same as me) but -- mentally and practically I've made huuuuge strides, especially having been pointed to this team! There isn't a ticker for mental attitude towards food(which is a shame!) but for me this progress is like gold-dust, even if it doesn't show on me physically yet...
Time is not infinite, time is now.
current weight: 162.0
Posts: 908 2/22/09 2:56 P
Well, for my 2cents - I only don't track when I know I'm not eating properly. Its really hard for me to post when I've had a day where I've eaten too much or made bad choices. I've done that the last week -- sabotaged myself, and now I feel bloated and gross. That feeling is lasting far longer than the comfort the food brought me.
I understand about the 'crazy making' because for me, I find that I am supposed to put food in its perspective, not make it the 'be all' answer. Yet, food can loom very large in my mind when I"m having to think about it, measure it, type it into my food log, etc. But, I do agree that I think the Harriet voice has something to do with it, for me. I make the work that surrounds food too big in my mind - making it a great big "should" instead of just deflating that and taking it in stride--a part of my day that brings no more angst than brushing my teeth or taking my vitamins. That's the goal, anyway! (laugh)
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars"
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Posts: 271 2/20/09 2:38 P
Thanks! I needed that and it's funny I never considered the excuses I made as the "Harriet" for me. Sometimes I think Harriet only shows up to make fun of me but I have to realize that she is also really good at making me believe in a false sense of security and subsequent frustration. I appreciate the time you have taken to answer me and thank you again for being here.
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Posts: 891 2/20/09 10:21 A
You might also try a different approach to tracking. What helps me is tracking with the philosophy that I am making sure I get all the nutrition I need, so my body doesn't up my hunger and a metobolism in an effort to get something I'm not giving it. I don't focus on a limit on my calories. However, when I track-- I naturally make better choices than when I eat without tracking which tends to be much less mindful. I use DietPower (www.dietpower.com) for this because I think it tracks much easier and quicker than the online Sparks tracker. I set my "calorie budget" for *very* slow weight loss (2 pounds per month)-- and usually stay way beneath my budget and lose weight faster than my official "tracking goal." So what I end up doing is making sure I'm meeting all my nutritional needs and eating healthy-- for me it is very helpful and doesn't engage my self criticism so much as a "strict diet." I can eat anything I want but tracking forces me to stay mindful of nutrition.
SW 8/1/08 229.
current weight: 153.0
Posts: 1,485 2/20/09 9:57 A
Carri it is great to see you again! Stop in and ask questions whenever you can. As a successful tracker I side with the posts already put in. However, if I am hearing you correctly it sounds like the tracking is challenging and is the 'Harriet' voice for you. You get upset when you don't do it or actually see how much you eat. I think you might want to start on a small scale. Track a meal a day or a meal every other day and see if that helps you. There is also the quicktrack option. Use the tracker as a way to show you can be successful not as a tool to show you want you can't do.
If you win 51% of the battles you have won the war.
Posts: 1,222 2/20/09 3:19 A
Here is my two cents worth. My mind ALWAYS wants food. I have been diligent in trying to learn to eat intuitively, eating what I want, when I want it, stopping when satisfied. But it never ends. I ALWAYS want to eat. Then I eat, I love eating, I feel safe, nurtured, cared for. I eat sugar, I couldn't be happier. So I eat, and eat, and at some point I'm supposed to get tired of eating all the sugar-but I never do. I keep wanting it. It leads to binging, and just never seems to quite work out the way it's supposed to. So, yes. I write down my food. I try to eat rationally for 6 days a week so I can train myself how normal people eat. Mostly healthy. More often. Smaller amounts. Limit the sugar. Writing it down keeps me accountable. And one day a week I eat what I want. But no binging. Binging is officially over. It's no longer sanctioned behavior. It leads to too much madness. When I think of how I would eat if I were eating ideally how I want to eat...this is it. No Pseudo food. Healthy small meals every 2-3 hours. Eating not being the on-going "EVENT", but rather fuel for my body. It's hard to let go of food as my emotional oasis, but it's time to grow up and be an adult with food. I feel like I just got my blankie taken away! I don't know if this helps or not... I think mostly you just have to find what works for you! I certainly wasn't ready to do this a year ago! Good luck!
current weight: 211.0
Posts: 891 2/19/09 10:36 P
My history has been that I lose weight when I log my food and gain weight when I stop logging. Of course I haven't stopped logging for any great length of time since Shrink Yourself, as I still have 40+ pounds to lose. But I use a different, not online program for logging, and I've had a few days when I forgot and left my laptop at work and couldn't log. I just don't feel like I have integrated lifestyle change enough yet-- I don't feel like I could continue to lose weight without logging-- and have some doubts about even maintaining without logging at this point.
I don't think it's a good idea to quit logging until it is clear that you can maintain your weight without it. Natural or not-- we have too many factors in our culture leading us toward overeating. So my own plan is to log until I have maintained my ideal weight for a year, and then gradually getting my body fat tested monthly (which I can get for free.) If the body fat goes up by a percent--- back to logging I plan to go.
Edited by: SUSANHKS at: 2/19/2009 (22:38)
SW 8/1/08 229.
current weight: 153.0
Posts: 271 2/19/09 10:04 P
.... You guys are my favorite team. I have been away for a little bit. Still here just not actively posting anyway, I'm really struggling guys about the food log. I don't count calories or log food, points, carbs or anything because it makes me CRAZY but now (that I continue to GAIN weight) I need to reconsider if I'm just making excuses. It seems it's the common theme among those who are losing weight. Does anyone else here struggle with that? Should I do it anyway??? There are so many facets to weight loss I'm working on, emotional eating, daily exercise, drinking water, etc....logging food seems so unnatural but I want to ask you do you think I'm overreacting? Please don't spare my feelings just give it to me straight up. I respect you. Why does this have to be so damn hard???? Thank you:)
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