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12/31/08 1:48 P

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I my have to examine the idea of boredom more this year. I actually rarely feel what I think of as boredom, though I used to. Maybe I'm kidding myself, and it may have to do with why I still eat at times when I'm not hungry. Always more to learn!


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NATTSO78 Posts: 831
12/31/08 7:24 A

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thanks to the both of you - it's definitely getting clearer now. I have read Intuitive Eating but haven't for a while - I may have to pick that up again.
Hopefully I can control my cereal routine and won't let it get out of control like I did in the past. Shrink Yourself has definitely opened up my eyes to how I've been using food to dull my emotions - for a really long time!
Thanks again for both of your help in this!!!

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12/30/08 10:19 P

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There is a type of depression that feels the same as boredom-- I think we needs more words to describe our feelings. Sometimes people aren't really sad depressed-- they are just blah, unmotivated, unsatisfied "bored" depressed. But even if you don't see your boredom as a kind of unfulfilled, mild depression, I definitely see boredome as an emotion that causes EE's.

The book "Intuitive Eating" is interesting and it gives a continuum of emotional eating from most normal (eating for pleasure), to sometimes normal (eating for comfort), to the gradually more pathological types-- eating for distraction, eating for sedation, and eating for punishment.

I think the "boredom" EEs are usually the mindless, "eating for distraction" type.

I really found the book "Intuitive Eating" a helpful follow up to Shrink Yourself. They describe more about the rebellious self and the inner dialogs than Dr. Gould does, and spend more time on the concepts of listening to your body and savoring your food. Some things in it- like the continuum of emotional eating- were new to me even though I'd taken the Shrink Yourself online course and read the book.

I think Shrink Yourself focuses pretty heavily on the "eating for sedation" part of the continuum, and doesn't address that other parts so much. It is tremendously helpful-- but I still felt I learned some valuable things by reading "intuitive eating" that Dr. Gould really doesn't address that much.

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12/30/08 8:23 P

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Nat,
For me, nothing beats dark chocolate and the pleasure I can get from it. I have a couple of guidelines I like to work with.

As long as I am not 'overeating' I can have dark chocolate every day, in a small amount (1 truffle, 1 Dove 'promise' 1 square of really reach well made dark chocolate).
I thoroughly enjoy and savor it.
I don't eat it when I am angry, stressed, bored or wanting to eat it for some other reason than the pure enjoyment.

That way for me, 1 is enough. I don't really 'savor' cereal- I'm not a big cold cereal fan, so I'm not sure how to compare it.

Don't get me wrong, there are certainly days when I feel like munching away on chocolate and other things. But I find them fewer and I beat myself up a LOT LESS than I used to.

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NATTSO78 Posts: 831
12/30/08 7:11 P

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wow - good thought! I have been trying to get at that feeling to describe it & it's been killing me. I guess I use that sweetness as a reward - a kind of instant gratification lumped into what I can call "happy" in the form of honey corn flakes. It just completes my day. I can't really find anything to give me that same feeling of "happy" and "complete" like desert (cereal). I can't seem to find an alternative! does anyone else have this problem?

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12/30/08 5:53 P

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I wonder what you are looking for in the sweetness- what is that good feeling that you get from the sweetness of the cereal? Can you capture that feeling? If so, are there other (non food) things that can give you that feeling? It's certainly ok (normal) to be bored, but do you want to satisfy boredome with eating every time?

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NATTSO78 Posts: 831
12/30/08 2:09 P

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So I was doing the exercises in the sessions portion of the book and was thinking about what drives me to eat. I got the guilt down, I got family and anxiety as well. But one thing that didn't get explored was just plain old boredom. Sometimes, at night, I get bored. So to pass the time, I eat. Most of the time I can control it - 1 bowl of cereal vs. 3 boxes. But there are times when the carbohydrate train doesn't want to stop, thus the 3 boxes of cereal. That, I believe is out of anxiety, depression, or other things. But when I am full and just need something sweet like a bowl of cereal when I'm bored, is that emotional eating? Can boredom be considered one of the triggers even if I'm not bingeing?

Thanks!
Nat

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