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2/25/09 7:14 P

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Thanks, Rachel, for the info. With my hours being cut back at work, I think I'd have the time to devote the 12 weeks.

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2/25/09 6:44 P

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I've been an SY.com member as have others on this team. I found it useful in narrowing my use of the SY book to my needs. At the same time it was hard to dedicate the 12 weeks and the time in the specific levels that the web required. I prefer meandering through the book and discovering myself at my own pace. For others though I think they have enjoyed it more.

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2/25/09 1:00 P

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I agree, Rachel. It's so important to stop and think about what we really need...most often, it isn't food but something entirely different that will help us.

I'm thinking about joining SY.com. Any thoughts?

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2/24/09 10:47 P

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Good for you! I think that food may have never actually done any enticing, we just are looking for some sort of therapy and food is that stand in. When we stop and think about what we are doing food doesn't always seem so great.

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2/24/09 5:42 P

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I've reached the part in the book where I'm writing things in my own notebook, doing the different exercises. Very revealing! emoticon

I'm also noticing that food in general doesn't "entice" me like it used to. emoticon



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Welcome Savvy. It is a great book and an insightful way to think about how we care for ourselves (or hurt ourselves). I hope you find some good friends and insights here.

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Hey! I'm new to this team, but I found it interesting that there is a team on SP who has been reading this book! (Guess I never thought to check!) I actually went thru 3 month online program last year with Shrink Yourself because I found myself just eating for no reason. . .actually there was a reason. . .grief. but more about that, as you get to know me better. Awesome program, awesome book! I am now into developing better habits, and I was looking for someone who was familiar with the NO S diet, and that is how I found this team and OOLALA's profile.
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1/25/09 7:45 P

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Don't assume that people who don't overeat learned how to deal with their emotions better than you did. There are lots of ways to avoid them! emoticon

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1/25/09 2:49 P

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Some really interesting thoughts here - thanks for posting.

On a slightly similar vein, I've been realising that I've been having a very up-and-down emotional time recently... but actually they're all normal emotions given the stressful stuff that's going on (long story), I'm just not used to feeling the feelings because I've been squashing them down for so many years (decades actually) using food. Now that I'm gradually less and less using food as a protection, I have to learn how to deal with these feelings, which most "normal" people learnt to do when they were children or teenagers...

I love that there's no timetable on Spark (none of this "4-weeks to a new body" that you see in all the magazines). My ticker is going nowhere, which is kinda disappointing, but my mental approach is soo radically different to 2 years ago. And that's priceless, and long-term, which is what we all want, after all!!

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I just came across some notes I made last summer. I wrote, "You fear ending your dependent relationship with food as much as you would fear ending any important relationship." I had forgotten I wrote that. Holy Toledo, I've been trying to end this relationship for 36 years! Funny, I've never been married and console myself (at times) with the thought that at least I'm not in a bad marriage. Oh, yes I am! It's just not to a person! I'm usually good at recognizing when a romance is not worth the problems. I guess I just didn't realize how much I think, subconsciously, I "need" overeating. I'm going to try to remember that we're supposed to be getting a divorce!

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I don't mean to be the only one posting on this site but here goes!

Chapter 11 is quite the gut-wrenching affair! Brutal! I am amazed I am getting through it without a binge! (Day 13 for me) It is a lot of work of the brutally honest kind and it is slow going. But I feel like I am going through "emotional root canal" and while digging around in these festering dark places is messy and stinky and uncomfortable, it is absolutely necessary to the healing process. I can now see that I am in the driver's seat and that I am the one that takes a simple emotion, attaches all this extra (incorrect) significance to it and then projects it forward as if it will never end and then draws faulty & catastrophic conclusions from it. No wonder I've been heading to the fridge rather than face these 12 headed monster emotional triggers I've constructed. It actually makes sense to me now. After decades of hating myself I can actually understand how anyone would binge, drink or take drugs rather than subject themselves to emotional torture like that. I am not crazy! Overly sensitive and inproperly processing my emotions, but not crazy or defective or stupid or lazy. Now, am I willing to continue the hard work of challenging and correcting these beasts (and in the process, dealing them mortal blows)? You bet I am!! Bring it on!

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6/9/08 6:03 P

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Well I have made it to chapter 11 and am starting to do some of the exercises. The 1st one was kinda weird because it is pretty much like waiting for and then dissecting a binge episode. Since today is Day 12 Binge Free for me I am hoping that I can just "diagnose" some near misses and why I almost had a binge. But everything so far has pretty much been a guided tour to my messed up psyche. I have 75 % of the strongest triggers mentioned and al 5 of the "powerless" layers need a major overhaul. It is a bit daunting, but I am encouraged that others have been successful and I can be too, if I am willing to do the work that is necessary. It has been a good reminder / confirmation of what I have already begun to experience:

1) Feelings, no matter how intense, do fade and pass over time.

2) Feelings, and the catastrophic predictions that they trigger in me, are not facts. They are many times overly sensitized fears/ self acusations within me that I am blowing out of proportion and then overreacting to.

3) Urges to binge, no matter how intense, are not unbearable. They are difficult & uncomfortable but not inevitable either. They can be challenged, postponed distracted, and so far, overcome.

So Hallelujia to that. emoticon
I can learn and change and grow in spite of lifelong issues / habits. Hoorah!

Hope you are all having a good week! Let me hear what is going on with ya!

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Absolutely! I am starting to see a pattern it that there is a general "disconnect" between me and my body / needs. It can be hunger, tiredness, (even having to go potty!) So I am working on that as well. Hope you are all doing well. Today is day 10 for me ( Binge Free) so wahoo to that! emoticon
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See, wasn't that great? You were probably prompted to eat because you were stressed and tired, but you didn't know it until you lay down. Sleep/rest is what your body needed!

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Congrats on the binge-free days. emoticon
Any binge-free day is a good day in my book!

Last night was tough for me. Between my TOM and chapter 6 (Your Safety Layer) I was jonesen for a food fix pretty bad (2 hours after a very early dinner) I had to do some deep breathing to get through it and I ended up dozing off on the couch for an hour! Once I woke up it had passed and by then my daughter had come home so I was able to wait until my proper snack time and got through the rest of the night without incident. It feels great today. (Delayed gratification has never been my strong suit!!)

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I've had a few days free from my abusive "friend," food. I've been lucky enough not to even miss him/her. I pray for courage if the desire comes back.

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The last section I read in SY had a statement in it that kind of shook me up. It said that I may think I don't or can't give up my relationship with food, but that it is just like someone who is fearful to leave an abusive relationship. She thinks she can't do without it but she is almost always glad she's not in it anymore.

I've never had an abusive relationship, but I have been with men who weren't right for me, yet I was afraid nothing better would come along, so I stayed. None of them lasted and nothing better has come along, but I do not long to be back with any of them. However, getting over them was easier than dealing with food! maybe it was because I didn't have to run into them.

I saw that this really is an abusive relationship, although not in every instance, it's basically of my own doing, and that I'm not thoroughly convinced I can do without it. I know I can do better than I have, but never again? And although I eat a lot of chocolate, the thing that seems impossible to imagine is never again eating too much frosting, like wedding cake white frosting. It's a little funny because I don't eat that very often, which is why I think it seems like why should I never do it? I eat that only once in awhile! And imagining the feeling it gives me makes me know it is definitely a drug rush. I'm pretty sure I haven't done it for the last time.

Anyway, I have done some emotional eating lately, but nothing like a true binge. (I 'm also on the Living Binge Free team, as I think I've said before.) I don't feel terrible about it because it was usually just a few bites I didn't need, but that fit the situation so well that it felt that it was just a normal thing to do. I just think life has to allow for that, and I think I'll need these experiences less and less as time goes on. I believe I'll have more insight, and i'll more experiences of not using food to "fall back on."

In any case, I am bona fide hungry now, so I'm going to have supper and enjoy every bite.

*"The goal of weight loss is incompatible with recovering from disordered eating." Center for Clinical Interventions
*The No S Diet saved my emotional life! Four years and counting. nosdiet.com/ *Be happy with this moment. This moment is your life.
*Get to the next meal hungry!
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