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I live by my under armour cold gear as base layers (found good deals on amazon.com; compression seems to work for me better). And then add layers accordingly. I also live by ear warmers (also under armour), good running gloves (found a great pair at Costco) and a little thicker of a sock since my favorite running shoes have so many air holes and mesh on them. A big thing I notices when I ran a half marathon in below frezzing temps was to wear different layers of dri fit type material to ensure the sweat was soaked up and didn't freeze to me or make me cold. :)

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Great tips everyone! No cold weather excuses for you guys!

The two best tips that I really make use of are dressing in layers and dressing like it is twenty degrees warmer outside. Yes, it is cold outside but it is only a matter of time until we warm up and only a matter of a little more time until we are in the nice warm shower smiling because we did it!

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I got some new gear for Christmas, and it was *amazing* in the cold, so I wanted to come share.

For tights, I got a pair of Under Armour tights ( www.underarmour.com/shop/us/en/women
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) and a UA mock turtleneck base layer (which I wore on its own at 20-something degrees and was perfectly comfortable ( www.underarmour.com/shop/us/en/women
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coldgear-fitted-mock/pid1215968-001
). I also got a pair of Mizuno Breath Thermo tights ( www.mizunousa.com/running/womens/app
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12/29/13 9:45 P

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These are all such great tips, thanks everyone! I'm going to print off this page of ideas and figure out what I want to try.

Thanks again for all of the marvelous feedback, you guys are awesome!! :)

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I bought some "cleats" to put on my shoes from Sam's Club. They came in a 2 pack for $16. Much cheaper than the Yaks! And they work well, I wore then for a run yesterday. The only thing is that you have to find the snowy patches- they hurt your knees otherwise- and some areas were shoveled. But it was slippery in spots so I was glad I had them.

I bought some really nice "Layer 8" brand running tights at TJMaxx for $20. They're fleece-lined. Love them! I also bought some nice running long sleeve shirts there. The RBX ones were $12.99 and are super soft!

I use a BUFF brand scarf/pull-over type of thing. It has fleece at the bottom that goes around my neck, and the other part is a real thin fabric that you can pull over your nose/mouth, and even up over your head to wear as a hat. I like it, but the fabric does get wet and can freeze from my breath....

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Yesterday I bought a pair of mittens. The card says they're Manzella WInd Pro-30 Run Mittens, women's size large, and that they're "warmest" on Manzella's warm-warmer-warmest scale. Pitch the card, and no one will care that I'm wearing women's mittens.

Wore them for my long slow run today, at 13° F with a 10 mph E wind. I didn't have to make a fist to keep my hands warm. Around 4 miles, I noticed my fingers were sweating. And this was at a slower pace than normal; I think this pair might not see that much use, as it doesn't get much colder than this here. The good news is that they're breathable, and the sweat did not become a major problem during the run.

In lieu of a walking cooldown, I shoveled the driveway, again. The mittens kept my hands warm better than the ski gloves I used to shovel before running did. I may get some good use out of this pair when shoveling snow, even if I don't get to run in them much.

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Thanks for the recs, everyone! I know I'll have to try some for myself to see what works for me personally, but I figured I could at least get a headstart with some suggestions, so I wouldn't have to buy 18 pairs only to find that they are all useless. :)

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These are the Eddie Bauer gloves that I use:

http://www.eddiebauer.com/catalog/produc
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(I put some spaces in the link to make it all visible, so those will have to be removed for it to work.)

I swear by them in really cold weather. The thumbs are also tech sensitive if you have a touchscreen phone or music player. I highly recommend them.

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@NANLEYKW - Some experimentation with gloves will be necessary. You may require different gloves than I do for the same temperature, and how hard you run is a factor.

Manzanella labels their gloves warm/warmer/warmest, where "warm" is a really light glove. I have a pair of "warmer" that has a windproof mitt to fold over the fingers. It did well for me through two winters. Now, I'm learning to control my pace. These gloves were fine for me yesterday at 17° F in a 13 mph wind, while running about a 7 minute mile. They were barely adequate last Saturday at 29° F in a 13 mph wind, when I was holding myself to about an 8 minute mile. Today I'm going to go to the local running store and look at mittens I can pull over these gloves, for days with weather like yesterday but when I want to do a slower run.

YMMV.


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@ NANLEYKW - I have pairs of winter running gloves from Nike, Reebok, & North Face. One of the North Face is a convertible glove with the fold-over mitten top. I like them all because they are trim and convenient, but I feel that none of them do the job once the temps get below about 25 deg. In extreme cold, I would go with a bulkier breathable waterproof ski glove or mitten. If you don't need to do a loft of button pressing on your run, I'd suggest mittens rather than gloves. In a race, I just suck it up and wear running gloves. If my fingertips start to freeze, I pull them out of the glove fingers and let my palms warm. It would probably be best to go to a ski shop and try on several pairs. It's better to pay a little more and get what you need than ordering online and finding that what you got doesn't do the job as I have done a few times.

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I would love some specific recommendations for gloves/mittens (with links, if possible). The ones I have don't do a great job of keeping my hands warm, and it looks like it's going to be a bitterly cold winter here in Chicago.

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ON2VICTORY can I use that term ' frozen chosen'

My walking running buddies just abandoned me now that the weather has turned cold out of fear of the elements

I am going to show them all this good advice on how to dress

I have been learning as I go

This is just such a great topic

Thanks

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Thanks AIMLESSAM! Ran a race yesterday with temps in the middle single digits and a negative windchill. The only part of my store that didn't work so good was the "cool looking" running gloves. Going to check out those gloves for sure!

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Wow, such great tips, thanks all!! I am going to give them a try and find what works best for me. I appreciate all of the support :)

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I live in Alaska and run in temperatures in the single digits. The absolute worst part about running in super-low temperatures is frozen hands. I bought a pair of running gloves that look really cool, but are totally worthless in very low temperatures. However, I have a pair of convertible mittens that are just perfect. The ones I use are from Eddie Bauer, are made of tech material, not wool or cotton, and are moisture wicking. I love that I can fold the mitten part down and still use my fingers. They keep my hands toasty warm. I highly recommend a pair of mittens on those really cold days.

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Erika,

I heartily endorse Robert's advice, and I'd like to add my experience:

You don't want to wear a shred of cotton. I learned this the hard way, but by the time I'd been running a year all cotton had been banished from my running wardrobe. I can get the basics (base layers, quarter zip midlayers, wind shells, tights) cheap at Walmart, but I have to pay up for accessories (gloves, hats, gaiter, reflective harness, headlight, tail light) at the local running store. Socks - wool works bets for me in cold weather. The inexpensive wool socks I can get at Sam's club won't hold up to running, so it's pay up at the local running store. (Some of the costly stuff might be available cheaper online, but I'd have to know what I'm looking for. Same caveat about knowing what you're looking for at Walmart.)

I think it would be very, very hard to transition from being a warm weather runner directly into 9° F. I learned to deal with cold weather gradually, as the seasons changed. First I was cold in the 50s. Then I was cold in the 40s. Then I learned to dress for the 30s, then the 20s, then the teens. By February, I had the clothing down.

But here's the deal: You want to own running tights, and base layers, and midlayers, and windproof shells, and at least two weights of gloves, and some cold weather hats, and a gaiter/breath mask. But how you put this together is very individualized. You'll need to play with the piece parts to figure out what is correct for *you* at any given temperature. Even when you have the pattern down for, say, the high 20s, you need to adjust for how much wind there is and whether there is precipitation in the air. You might need to adjust for whether there is direct sunlight or clouds. I need to dress just a tiny bit warmer for a long slow run than for a tempo run, because I don't work as hard and don't generate quite as much internal heat.

And just when I think I have it down, the longer term runner in the office tells me that how he needs to dress for a given set of weather conditions changes from year to year with his conditioning level. While there's a lot of science in dressing to run for cold weather, getting to the best solution is an art.

Probably the best concise advice I got when I was first learning to run in the cold was what Robert said in his next to last paragraph: If you're not cold standing around, you're overdressed for running in the cold weather.


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Erika- welcome to the land of the frozen chosen.

That's a hard adaptation to make. I highly recommend that you take LOTS of time to adapt to your new environment before you attempt anything. It will take more than a few weeks. While the traction issues have been already addressed, you must also consider that running performance drops drastically as the temps drop below 60 degrees

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Throw in the BITTER temps in your area and you have a potent mix for problems even in seasoned runners much less someone living for years in a hot dry climate or even Colorado. Your area gets MUCH colder than mine.

I rarely go for a run in temps much below 14 degrees. Its tough, sweat freezes, not using a tech material face mask can make your lungs burn, and forget about pacing.

I'm not saying don't do it, but I am saying you will need to SLOWLY adjust to your new extreme climate and investing in thermal tech running gear will be a must as well as learning the art of layering.

It took me a while but I began to figure out different clothes combinations for different temps and what produced the better results as far as comfort vs breathability and not allowing too much sweat to collect and make me colder.

A hint I would give is that if you feel warm and cozy standing there, you are over dressed for running and you will sweat like crazy once your core temps elevate. I generally feel a little cool or a little chilly just standing (not freezing), then I usually feel ok running but that is a general guideline, you will need to experiment big time. Also the hat and gloves come on and off to regulate temps, do not allow your head temps to build up until you're sweating excessively under your cap, you could really get cold.

Anyway, its going to take some real trial and error. Take it slow and be patient.

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These are all great tips and articles, thank you!! I tried just going out with the dogs for a short walk and it was so cold it was actually painful...I checked the temps when we got back and it was 2 degrees but with wind chill the "feels like" temp was -22. Yeah, that's a little TOO cold. But I'll start working on the shoes and buying some cold weather clothing so I can try again when it's not so brutally cold.

Thanks again everyone, I appreciate your feedback! :)
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I may be late to the party with this but here is one of the best "Screw Shoe" articles I have read.
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Thanks for the tip re: the shoes.....I've got just the pair to do this with. Will try the duct tape as well.

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Vasaline for the exposed parts of your face works wonders in reducing wind burn!

Thanks for the screw shoe idea.. I forgot about that and now have a perfect pair to do that too!

This tool is also very good.
www.runnersworld.com/what-to-wear





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Make yourself some screw shoes for running in snow/ice. Google "Screw shoes how to" and you'll find lots of info. Duct tape over the mesh on your shoes will make them warmer due to decreasing the air flow.

A good rule of thumb is to dress for 20 degrees warmer than the actual temp to compensate for the heat you generate while running.

Wear layers, get good merino wool socks. I generally start wanting something like a wind breaker when it gets below 30 degrees, but don't need a warm hat or neck gaiter until it's closer to 20. In the teens I'll put my windproof tights over my running tights as well.

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Good morning, all!
As some of you know, I am trying to work my way back into running again after a year+ off following an injury. When I was running before, I was living in Tucson, Arizona where I was dealing with hot weather runs that were often in the triple digits. Now I have moved to Rapid City, South Dakota, and it's a whole new ballgame...it is currently only 9 degrees right now and will hit negative temps overnight. I won't get out there when it is as windy as it is right now, but I am wondering what kind of tips you all can give for walking/running when the temperature allows you to be out but the ground is snowy/icy? What kind of cold weather gear do you use? And what type of shoe for snow/ice? I will be joining a gym in January but it's not close to home and roads get closed here frequently in the winter, so it won't always be an option.

Thanks in advance for any tips you can give me! :)

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