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8/5/13 5:13 P

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why hello. congrats on your marathon training to date, sounds like your right on track. I agree that you are likely fit enough to finish. personally I find that doing the longer runs helps me mentally prepare for the race. getting by that 18 km point in a race is mentally difficult for me, so having done it in training is a big help.

if getting the hubby to be helpful is not in the cards, crockpot (or a baked oatmeal and fruit) breakfast is a fantastic idea (though chatting about supportiveness might be warranted too). it's hard when they don't share the running bug.



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8/5/13 8:58 A

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I agree with On2Victory that taking a rest day or 2 would help your body and your family time.

8.5 is definitely enough to get you across the finish line. It just depends on what your goals are. There are various training plans for various goals. If it were me, I'd try to bump up to 10 for the mental confidence. But you are clearly in good enough shape to run a HM with the goal of finishing. If you ever get to time goals, you'd need to train differently. But for your first, I think you're good. Especially if longer runs are stressing you out. That's no good! This should be fun and a healthy challenge. Not stressful.

I have been surprised by how much of a family affair endurance running has become. I think you need to let your husband know that this isn't about weight loss and why it is important to you. The whole experience would be more enjoyable if he were supportive.

I hope the rest of training goes well for you!!

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8/2/13 8:31 P

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ill keep it short but here is my two cents... you are doing a huge amount of mileage if you are doing 5-6 every day with one long run at the end of the week. Most training plans would look something like this...

Mon off Tues 5-6 miles Wed off Thurs 4-5 miles Fri off Sat 9 miles Sun 2-3 miles

or some other similar pattern. This was taken from week 10 of this plan...
www.halfmarathons.net/training_tips_
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one thing i notice is that you are NOT giving yourself any rest days if you are going out 5-6 miles everyday. This also translates into ... Mom is always out running.... following a plan will give them a little more face time on your rest days.

Personally, if you can maintain that much mileage, you are probably fit enough to finish. There is not a whole lot of difference between running 8.5 miles and 10 miles. If you let your body take the rest days that are advised, you will probably notice improvements.

On the home front, I know this will sound like taking a step backwards but if you skipped a few days of running during the week, you would probably find a little more support for a longer run on the weekend.

I've been there. I was gone for hours at a time when I was training for my first marathon like 4-5 hours for a long run. My Half Ironman training hasnt been much kinder to my schedule either. I backed off during the week and gave them a little more of my time which made it easier to go for the long efforts on the weekend.

as you get closer to your race, make absolutely sure you taper or you could have big problems race day.

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8/2/13 4:18 P

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Thanks for all the suggestions so far! I think I'm going to wait closer to the race and try to get some 10-11 milers in.
Crock pot b-fasts are great ideas. I usuallyhave oatmeal in the pot so it just needs to be cooked. Both of my boys are allergic to eggs (and nuts) so our b-fast choice are limited.

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8/2/13 3:28 P

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Hey, maybe I should throw out crockpot breakfast! There are crockpot dishes you can put on the night before and have on all night, and then eat the yummiest breakfast. I do an egg potato version, but there are others too. And yes, I would think hubby could get them breakfast, or they could grab cereal, bagels, or something.

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8/2/13 3:20 P

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If you're doing 8.5 miles, you really only need a couple long runs, like maybe 3-4 in the 9-12 mile range and you'll be more than ready. In fact, I'd say that if you do a 10-miler, you will certainly be ready to finish a half. The most important thing is getting used to time on your feet. You could also try splitting your long run into two shorter runs - maybe an 8 miler in the morning and another 4 miles later on. FWIW, 9 miles is about where I hit the wall in my first HM, so I'd encourage you to get past that point a few times, and make sure you're feeling strong and confident with your fueling strategy going into miles 11-12. In my second half I ate a lot more beforehand as well as during the race and it made a big difference in those later miles.

As far as your hubby, does he have any hobbies that you accommodate for him? It only seems reasonable to me that he can get his own children fed and dressed one morning per week so you can have some time for yourself.

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8/2/13 3:03 P

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I would also say that if you are running 5 to 6 miles everyday, that if you could find another day to do the long run and not run every single day. Most half marathon training plans have you run about every other day with some cross training other days and yes, a rest day each week. For the long run, I think you are fine if you can do about 11 to 12 miles at one time. IE you can always walk some of the half marathon if you need to.

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4/19/14 Butterflies for Hope 5K for Lupus 39:23.8 (I hurt my back a few days before, and though it was my first official 5K with some jogging, my back hurt, so was very slow.)


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8/2/13 2:52 P

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You might want to check out the most recent issue of Runner's World. It is dedicated to the Half Marathon distance and includes an article with training plan for those who have never tackled the disctance before and are worried they don't have time for sufficient training, etc. Sounds like it's tailor made for you!

In general, you can find Training Plans that top out with a long run anywhere from 10 miles to 13 miles. If I were in your running shoes, I think I would, just once, try one run a little bit longer than you have so far. Something in the 11 to 12 mile range. That should only add, what 30-40 minutes or so (give or take a few) to what you are running at 9 miles? Get up a little earlier just that one day. Then, you'll have a better sense of whether you can go the distance with a max long run similar to what you are currently doing or not. If so, great, you'll be fine. If not and you determine you need to build up more mileage, you'll have a dry run under your belt to know what that will take, how the family handles it, etc.

Just my two cents. I experienced similar isssues earlier in my running but have all but eliminated them by simply doing the majority of my running while the rest of the family is either sleeping in on Saturday morning or in the clean-up/shower/get-ready-for-bed mode in the evening throughout the week.

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8/2/13 2:38 P

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I have mentioned before my obsession with running a half marathon. I have recruited a few buddies to run one in October or possibly the Rock N Roll Philly Half in Sept. with me but they haven't started a training plan yet. Both are regular runners like myself.

Here's the deal. I haven't been following any formalized training schedule so far. I run 5-6 miles each day during the week and a long run of 8.5 miles at the furthest on Saturday. Thinking about running longer than 9 miles right now, for training purposes, stresses me out. My husband isn't super supportive, and though he doesn't complain, he always appears mildly irritated on Saturday mornings when he has to walk the two boys downstairs... and wait for ME to return to cook b-fast. When I get done running my two young boys are immediately asking to eat and the baby is crying for me to hold him. DH is usually obliviously sitting on the couch watching Sports Center or on his phone playing while I end up super dehydrated from not having two seconds to take a drink of water. So because of this, it stresses me out to think about running for much longer than 9 miles. I've mentioned this to him in passing and he says he doesn't care if I run, but thinks it's unnecessary to get up so early to do it, or that I really don't have any reason to be running for so long b/c I don't need to lose any weight. He obviously doesn't have the running bug. ;) So I guess my question is, what is the minimum amount of training I can do for a half? I am not trying to break any records, just run the whole thing. A coworker told me yesterday that she has run one before without ever having run more than 6 miles

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