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7/27/13 9:16 P

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I googled. In DE, there are a bunch of 10M races coming up:

9/7 Bottle & Cork 10M
10/6 Delaware Distance Classic 15K (close to 10 miles)
10/20 Caffe Gelato 10M

There are lots of 10M races very close to DE in MD, PA, and NJ.

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7/27/13 8:35 P

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I am in DE if you see any 10 milers nearby.

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7/26/13 12:39 A

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Spokane is not too far, I'll check those out, thanks!
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7/25/13 10:04 P

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Assuming you're near Spokane, there are some 10M races coming up!

August 4: Chewelah Peak Trail 10M
August 3: Spokane Distance Classic 15K (9.3 miles!)

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7/25/13 5:51 P

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Eastern WA, maybe I'm on the wrong website, LOL.

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7/25/13 12:35 P

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No 10 mile races near you? Where do you live?

Might be a fine opportunity to organize a quality 10M race in your neighborhood. Some of the premier races in my area are the 10Ms. Good employment opportunities, too: The RD for the Cherry Blossom 10M makes enough money from it that being the RD for that one race is all he does!

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7/22/13 10:33 A

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There are no 10 mile races anywhere near us at all, between entry fees and traveling costs it may be prohibitive.
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7/22/13 5:02 A

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I am all for 10 miler. However there is only one scheduled for my state and is only "tentative" so I'm reluctant to think it will even take place.

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7/22/13 2:44 A

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I'll disagree with just about everyone and suggest that instead of obsessing about a HM, you should try a 10M race. Try several. Given your current max distance of 8M, 10M is much more reasonable - and, at 10M, issues such as fueling are also important so you'll still have plenty to worry about :-)

Although there are fewer 10M races than HMs, there are many excellent 10M races from which to choose. Do a couple and then you'll be in a better position to decide whether you need to go longer.


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7/21/13 1:19 P

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Totally agree that I may be running too frequently. I do try to take one day a week to walk some hills. I don't have a gym membership right now but wish there was a way to purchase a "once a week pass" to utilize the ellipticals and strength training equipment.

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7/21/13 8:41 A

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I really am pretty new to this training also, but I think that PAT4PROG has a good point in that maybe you are overdoing it on the running. How about cross training some and cutting back on some of you mileage outside of the long run?
I am training for my first half and I know I personally get crazy when I look at the training schedule and it shows me only to run say,3-4 miles today, but I have to believe in the training as I have read. I supplement with biking, swimming and hiking so it kind of works out for me anyway.
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7/21/13 8:09 A

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I've just completed my first week of training for a fall half...never done one before.
Looking over my training plan, from my coach, we aren't scheduled anywhere near 40 miles in a week. You might be having trouble breaking the 8 mile distance because you're overextending your mileage as a whole. Just a suggestion. I totally trust my coach, he is a certified trainer that has done this for years.(28 per week is our highest and then slowly taper down up to race week).
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7/21/13 1:08 A

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If you are running 40 miles a week, I suspect that you could do OK with a half marathon right now. It would be advantageous of course to add some longer runs, especially so you can practice fueling, but I think you'd just need a couple, not an extensive training plan. I've done four half marathons, and more or less followed a plan for the first one, then didn't do any long runs leading up to the second one, but focused on speed work instead, and ended up having a much more enjoyable experience as well as besting my first time by almost eight minutes. With all of mine, I've never run more than about 25 miles a week. I'm doing a 30K in a few weeks, and my mileage will top out around 30 or so for that. I don't see any reason not to do a half with the mileage you're logging.

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7/20/13 9:15 P

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I wholeheartedly agree with the others. If you can do 8 miles, you can do 13. If you can't do 13 miles running straight, then walk some of it, but I think you should sign up for a half. I know finding the time for training can be difficult, but one long run per week, isn't so bad, if you are already doing 8 miles at a time. Oh, and food, my point of needing food, as a walker, was 2 hours. Less then that, and I didn't need food, more than that and I did. Me, I just take a granola bar/ breakfast bar type thing. Doesn't have to be goo or anything, as long as you can eat and keep moving. Do take water with you though!

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7/20/13 8:47 P

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Timothy,
we are members of our local running club and have been for a while. With me being a middle-aged runner and quite slow, I would end up trailing behind for all the group runs. Sometimes running clubs are geared more towards younger, faster runners.
For me it is a matter of what I enjoy the most, in my case running/jogging/walking accompanied by a couple of my hounds, either through the fields or on some wooded trails. I guess I'm not willing to sacrifice all the fun I have running this way for training for a race. I just don't have the competitive mindset. But I do like the social aspect of running, and on the track once or twice a week I see people, regardless of how much faster they are. emoticon

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7/20/13 8:37 P

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Nancy,
I was wondering when I read about your new training strategy, LOL, I hope you'll enjoy yourself a great deal. emoticon
We joined a local track club and one of the coaches has taken us under his wing and started us on some speed work, 200 m repeats, 400 m repeats, all in a very motivational environment. Right now the heat is killing me (90's) so I'm substituting some swimming about twice a week, getting lessons from my daughter.
I still consider myself a long-distance runner by preference, with the sprinting I end up eating a few carbs after the work out but not needing them at all before or during.
I will take a look at the resources you mentioned.
Cheers,
Birgit

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7/20/13 8:28 P

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If you are regularly running 8 miles, I don't think it would be a lot of trouble to get your miles up enough to complete the distance. I understand your time constraints, but if you can go 10 - 13 miles at least once a week, say on the weekend, you ought to be able to get enough training. Why not look into a local running club or running store for a half marathon training group?

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Birgit,

As you know, I love the science behind all this exercise stuff--sometimes it takes me time to think and do the research, but after doing a couple of 18 milers and one 20 miler last year which caused a calf issue which led to a deferment of the Marine Corps Marathon, I had to re-think this whole thing. Found Coach Jay--read the book--talk to the other coaches and I am very excited to try it this year.

It may not be for everyone, but doing those really long, long runs didn't work for me--not to mention the time involved to do them. So to do a 90 minute run on Saturday and a 2 hour run on Sunday is so much easier than doing a longer 3 1/2 hour run on one day. And because I am doing speedwork during the week to raise my lactate threshold it makes for lots of fun training. Would be interested to hear how it works for you...and by the way--I may be swinging to the dark side of nutrition, too--hehehe--focusing on fat utilization vs carbs--I know, I know, I know--can you believe it??? hehehe!!

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7/20/13 4:34 P

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Nancy,
I have considered the same and may give it a try at some point. I also have every reason to believe that endurance can be trained very well with several moderate length runs per week or even several shorter runs every day. For trail running, which is my favorite, I think it actually works quite well to do a mix of uphill and downhill walking and running to prepare for just about any length race.
I'm thinking of people who walk/jog all day because of their work (something that is quite common in many countries in the world) and this is not even considered exercise.
Human beings seem to do well moving at a slow pace for many hours every day, but a lot depends on the type of conditioning we have. People who have had sitting jobs for many years may need years to build up endurance.
Birgit

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7/20/13 3:51 P

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I train with a running coach out of Boulder who has modified the Hansons Marathon Method (they have a plan for the half in their book, too)--where my long run for my marathon will not exceed more than 16 miles--this may sound very unconventional for many people, but you must read the book to understand the science and physiology of running with cumulative fatigue--I run a moderate long run on Saturday and then a longer run on Sunday--doing so allows me to develop the energy systems needed to run a marathon, however, without the risk of developing an injury--I am really excited to see where this training takes me.

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7/20/13 2:55 P

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I would say that if you can run 8 miles easily you can run 13 miles, although plan on being sore for a couple of days to a week.
I hear you about time commitment. I am in the process of doing more shorter running events that don't require as much training time. It does not come natural as the HM but it has it's own rewards.
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7/20/13 1:14 P

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I have been running since the end of March after a ten yr stint of daily "power walking." I was able to increase my mileage without too much difficulty and have really come to enjoy the sport. Like many of you, I run in the early morning hours so it doesn't effect my time spent with the kids.
I think about running a half marathon all the time. I'm kind of obsessed with it. I've reviewed many training plans. Currently I'm running about 40 miles a week but that's broken down to my longest run only being 8 miles. I'm finding it really hard to get past that distance mentally and also due to the time commitment. I'm getting up at 5:30 on the weekends but my boys are usually waking up by the time I'm finished 8 miles so it makes it hard for me to continue further. The halfs in this area aren't until Oct and the big Philly one in Nov so I have time. But I guess I'm looking for some advice/ stories of how you all are able to get your long run in without putting in a ton of add'l miles/time. I don't know if there is an easy answer b/c I will be really upset if I have to walk a portion of the race!

On a separate note- I've never used an energy gel or eaten while I'm running. I am super sensitive to caffeine so may have to stick with something like M&M's or jelly beans. I haven't felt the need for them yet but wondering at what point I will. I am kind of nervous to eat while running bc idk if I will tolerate it.

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