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5/22/12 8:46 P

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You sound much like I did after my first half.....CONGRATULATE YOURSELF.....you did something that 98% of the population will NEVER accomplish! Don't give up, don't beat yourself up. Take and learn what you can from the experience and ROCK YOUR NEXT RACE!!!


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5/22/12 8:31 P

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I think you did amazing!! You should be so proud of yourself. My first half, I did it in 2;18, so, when it came to my second a month later, I felt that I would do better b/c it was flat course. Well, lets just say that I didn't beat my time. I ended up walking a bit and having a horrible stitch in my side (ended up I pulled a muscle, not a stitch). My time was 5 minutes later then what I wanted, 2:23, but I was ok with that. Don't be down on yourself. You've accomplished something a lot of people would love to do, but haven't or won't!!

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5/22/12 4:43 P

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It is reassuring to know that heat DOES play a factor though for most people. I wasn't so sure, as my friends fired right through like normal (one even had her BEST race time as of yet) so I felt even worse.

Another thing I've been thinking about today, and something my boss pointed out is: I wasn't looking forward to this race. I really was dreading it, and looking forward to getting it OVER with as opposed to DOING it. It was my longest run, and in retrospect, I should have had more longer runs prior, instead of just hoping that my overall level of activity would get me through. The friend with the PR had a very regimented training schedule she followed. My partner, well, I think she's part android or something. lol. She knows no limits in anything she does.

I'm chalking it up to not being fully prepared mentally and physically, and the stinking heat. Nothing shameful about 11:03 for 13.23 miles. (I will repeat that every time I start to berate myself for not doing better)



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5/22/12 2:27 P

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It was a tool that I found that others may find helpful...it's up to them as to whether they want to use this as a guideline or not. I am not in a position to argue semantics...it was just something I found some people may want to use...Sorry if I upset you.

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5/22/12 2:25 P

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The only way you can claim your experiences fit is if you have multiple data points - running the exact same course at different temps. But you only mentioned one data point for NYC. Did you mean to mention others?

I certainly agree that heat plays a role. I wasn't denying that. Indeed, I would have guessed that at the 90 and 100 degree points, the calculator predictions seem much too low. And it's interesting trying to equate the calculator's optimistic (in my opinion) predictions with reports of race cancellations when temps "merely" hit the 80s.


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5/22/12 2:14 P

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My times match to a tee...my NYC half was run at 2:09:54 and it was upper 50's...

But you must remember this is taking into consideration...ambient temp, not humidity or terrain...It was a calculation formula developed by running expert Jack Daniels...take it for what it is, but I thought some people may be curious to see that yes, heat does play a role in our racing.

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5/22/12 1:16 P

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Nancy, That temp calculator to which you provided a link seems rather dubious. First, it doesn't provide a reference or explanation for the calculation. Secondly, I don't believe it. I plugged in 2:00:00 for a HM at 60F and it predicted:

2:05:24 at 90F
2:07:12 at 100F

Do you believe those? I sure don't.

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5/22/12 12:02 P

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I fully understand your experience! While you know you should be thankful that you finished and did it, you feel bad you didn't do as well as you wanted. Heat is a HUGE factor -- but the other question might be, how long was your longest training run? The first time I ran it I had completed a 12 mile run and my 26 year old daughter had only done 8 miles. She really struggled to finish. The difference hit right at the 10 mile mark. In my first marathon I had only completed a 19 miler and my daughter had done a 20 and 21 miler. This time she had to push me along as I really struggled to finish. I have since learned the value of doing the long miles as needed for each race. Not sure if this is helpful.

All that to point out though -- I envy your speed in heat!!

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5/22/12 11:15 A

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Congrats on your first HM!! That's amazing!!

I had a simalar experience (heat & walking more) for my first HM. And I was soo hard on myself afterwards. I kept thinking why couldn't I do more running at the end. But now I look back & I'm proud of myself for not stopping!!

SO be proud of yourself!! You finished!

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5/22/12 11:06 A

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Hi Cece,

GREAT JOB!!! Below is a link to a Temperature calculator that shows how heat slows your pace.

Coach Nancy

runnersconnect.net/training/tools/te
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5/22/12 10:35 A

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I have run 9 half marathons in varying conditions. Hot is difficult if you're not acclimitzed to it, or if you hate the heat, and it's worse when you're running in it for the first time in the warm season. It's not surprising that you had to cut back on your pace, and you shouldn't beat yourself up. I'm sure if you felt you could have run through it, you would have, so you didn't fail in any way. However, if you ran through it, chances are that you would have been carried off the course rather than crossing the finish line. Living and racing in South Florida, I always see people either sitting on the curb or being tended to for heat related issues in a warm-day race. You did the right thing.

The fact that you're still sore today may be related more to dehydration than from the pace you were running.

Good job and congratulations on your finish. Now go sign up for your next one.
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5/22/12 10:14 A

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Wow! I am currently at 4.5 miles and it is HARD. I run my first half this September and it feels like an insurmountable goal...

I am so inspired that you made it through your first half. I am proud that you completed it and hope I can do the same!

Remember where you were a year ago and try to consider the fact that you made it through, and under adverse conditions to boot, a major victory! And yes, now you have a personal goal to improve upon!

Kudos to you!

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5/22/12 10:00 A

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Think of it this way. You have a half marathon you can now shatter and that will be amaz-ing!!!

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5/22/12 9:58 A

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I've had a hard time processing it, so I'll summarize:

The good:
1. I got to the point where I could even ATTEMPT a half marathon. A year ago, I do believe 4.5 miles was the longest I had ever run, and I thought THAT was hard.
2. I finished, running across the finish line, and not walking or crawling
3. I KNOW I pushed myself hard because I am still feeling the effects strongly today.
4. My family and friends were there to support me along the way

The bad:
1. It was HOT. They put a heat advisory on the race website, and advised walking and staying adequately hydrated. I HATE running in the heat, and it was bad. Really bad.
2. Lost my running partner between 3 and 4, which is WAY earlier than when we normally part ways. Lost my steam around 6, and at mile 8 had to stop at the water stations instead of running through as I normally do. By mile 10, I was walking to drink my water and gatorade at the stops, then walking another half minute or so til I started up again. Honestly at that point, I was running just to get to the next station. Stopped to walk twice outside of the water stations, for maybe a minute both times. emoticon

My goal was to come in at 2:15, and normally I run under a 10 minute mile, even longer distances with tougher hills, so that seemed reasonable. At the 6 mile point, I was at 58:04, so was keeping on track. I just feel like I fell apart after that. And I feel like a failure for having WALKED not only during the water stations, but outside of them. My overall time was 2:24:44, which put me at a 11:03 mile, and I know that isn't shabby at all for a first half marathon, and my longest run ever. BUT! I'm always just a few minutes behind my partner, then our other friend comes in a few minutes behind me. Both came in before me this time, and I think what I'm struggling with is: Had I been consistent at 11:03, fine. I have been VERY consistent in the past (even during the hilly 10 miler). But I held a 10 minute mile, then FELL APART!!!! At mile 10, I was at 1:45, so 3 miles in 30 minutes and I would have hit my goal of 2:15. Should have been a piece of cake. But it took me 44 minutes those last 3.23 miles on account of walking and water stops. Bah.

I dunno. I'm just having a really hard time processing it right now. Yes, it was hot. Yes, it was the longest run, but my gauge-my running partner and our other friend-did just as well as they always do, and how I always do! Just not sure what happened. I did say I will NEVER run that far again. But I might need to just to see if I really suck that bad at distance running (why such a huge difference between 10 miles and 13.23??) or the heat really had that much affect on me.....or maybe it was just a plain old "off" day for me.


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