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Thanks Buckaroo,

Part of the problem I guess is I refuse to get rid of my dog, my doctor actually told me to put him down, He piussed me offf, it's not the dogs fault! He is healthy and happy nad well yes hard to rehome becuase he is 5 and bites when he gets excited, or too happy, playiong with the foster puppy is helping him tons...yes bad me, i am actually considering getting him a puppy of his own! But no, perhaps i will just keep being a foster mommy. Right now with the dry cold, my hands are real bad, I can't even wear my gloves, typing isn't toopainful but I am only using 2 fingers, the ones that don't bleed, LOL.

Living simply is actually starting to be easy for me, since my allergy to detergent, I have to use special biodegradable, ph neutral type soaps, my laundry soap has to be fragrant and dye free, I have to stay away from a bunch of things, If I had the room I would have my own garden.....I like using the plastic sacks for produce when i walk my dog, the puppy isn't aloowed out of the yard yet, she hasn't completed her vaccinations and well, it's just not safe. I don't do the bottled water crap, though, gee that's just not necesarry the water here is very clean and it's ok to drink. If I can drink it so can she, don't you think?

I have one water bottle I like, and I refill it from the refrigerator, Ilike it because I know it's exactly 3 cups of water.

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STEVIE433, You're a vet and have to take off for allergies....that so sucks. If I was told I had to stay away from animals (dogs particularly) or WATER I would really have to meditate on it to keep myself from flipping out! My dogs are not only my babies, but my very real connection to the natural world. I have worked at vets but have proven my silly Virgo side and cannot handle it - I'm not the one you want to count on to be strong when you are putting your dog down...big limitation of mine, but I accept it.

My vet gets my kudos (and trust, which is a big deal in my book)...I hope you can return to work soon!!!

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i don't know if they use biofuels here, but i figure the 15 or 20 people on the bus are 15 or 20 less cars with one person in them. what's funny is sitting on the bus in traffic is much less annoying than behind the wheel. and people in columbus have to gawk at EVERYTHING. at least on the bus i can choose to be engrossed in a book rather than wonder why someone on my side of the highway is craning to look at an accident on the other side of the highway.

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I have friends that live in the city nearby. They have a great bus system - very clean, efficient, and streamlined, and they use biofuel made from soybeans :) Anyways, a few of them LOVE taking the bus because they can multitask during the transit time instead of cussing at the traffic. They spend the time checking email or messages or something.

We don't have busses here. Well, we have a community shuttle for the elderly and disabled, but that doesn't help me any. But at least they have something available for them.

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moss, i know the site. i found this one: http://www.carbonfootprint.com/USA/calcula
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i'm doing all i can at this point. i recently decided to start taking the bus to work and it's great. not only does it force me to leave work on time, i can read and save gas since i cannot buy a new vehicle right now. if we had sidewalks, i'd walk up the street to the store, but i don't trust the drivers and there are no curbs, just road.

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I was directed once to a website that asks questions about your lifestyle, and then calculates how much of a carbon footprint you have. I am happy to say that my footprint - WITHOUT doing ANY recycling - was under 4.3 tons of carbon per year. The average American's is 48+ tons per year. So without doing all that much, I am at less than 1/10th of the average American... it can't be TOO hard... the news is full of people whining that we can't reduce any of this...

If I find the website again I'll post it... if anyone else wants to look for it, feel free to post it.

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Moss, you are right - need to start keeping track. I phone our local information hotline on how to dispose of the CFB's and she just said to put them in a plastic bag and throw in regular garbage - so much for saving the landfills, I will have to look further about where to dipose of these someone mentioned the firestations as they take household chemicals for disposal.

I think it is great we can reduce our footprint, but it is the underdevelop countries that are in need of reducing, the big companies move their productions there not just because of cheap labour but because they have less environmental restictions. They also have growing populations. It is those places along with our own that need to start taking care of the earth.

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I need to get some big trash cans. Our town has a limited recycling program (cardboard, aluminum cans, tin cans, newspapers, slick papers, and #2 & #4 plastics) but they don't have pickup - even if you pay for it. So I need a place to store everything. Right now I have about plastic grocery sacks with plastic in them out in the snow (ugh it snowed here today) waiting to go to the recyclers! I just need to make myself a convenient place to keep it all until I get there. If it's easier, I know I will be more inclined to do it...

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Dragonwolf, if you have kept records and find that the CFBs don't last any longer than regular bulbs, then buy regular bulbs. You won't save THAT much energy using them, and not only is the expense not worth it but the mercury in them makes them hazardous to dispose of. (Some recycling centers handle these bulbs to keep the mercury out of landfills.)

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Yes,Yes,Yes I agree with all of you we all need to do something to save our planet!!!!! If everyone on this earth recycled one thing a day, it would make a huge impact. I have started asking for paperbags at the store instead of plastic, I have reuseable canvas ones but I forget them sometimes.(my bad) a lot of things like soy milk,broth and soup is now in a paper carton like milk used to be in.





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I have replaced the lights with the new fangled ones, although I don't think they last any longer (power flucations maybe?) We have replaced the toilets with more effecient ones. Have put in low flow taps. I turn off lights and have a programable thermastate. I am learning to recycle - still have way too much garbage am hoping that the city will finally get curb side recyling although might not help me as I live in a condo and garbage is the condo's responablity, so I would think that reycling would be their problem as well. I remember when hubby was on the board it was very expensive to get private recyling.

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Personally, I think it’s a matter of doing what you individually can do leave a lesser footprint. I’m replacing light bulbs with more energy efficient ones, turning off lights in rooms that are not in use, putting on warmer clothes rather than turning up the heat, and trying to minimize driving by coordinating trips. Some days it works much better than others. On the other hand I have a book habit that won’t quite. If it’s a popular book that I’m only going to read once it comes from the library, but they only carry a very small amount of what I read so I’m left with buying it. If I’m not going to reread it then it goes to the book exchange at a local pagan coffee shop.

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well, today i rode the bus to work. i started to panic and thought about this being the day my son needed someone to get him from school and then just quelled that thought. the ride was shorter than my commute, i didn't have to fight for a parking spot and i could catch up on a couple pages from my book. i can't say i'll stop driving, but i will definitely try to ride the bus more than drive.

i bought an insulated reusable bag for my groceries this week. i think it's pretty amazing how much frozen stuff i buy. crystal, that's an awesome idea to stock up on staples and then just shop weekly for non-perishables. i may have to try and plan that out. although my tastes change week to week, i do seem to consistently use wheat pasta, cereal, beans and spaghetti sauce faithfully.

off the subject... has anyone ever had the kashi golean multigrain clusters? oh my stars! that is some of the BEST cereal ever. i wanted to take a punch bowl and gallon of milk and eat the whole box.

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I also ride my bike for my errands near home (although I live in a place that is definetely NOT bike friendly), and try to keep things as green as I can. I believe that I can try to save resources without going apranoid about it. And that's what I have been doing. I think all of us can do a bit, anything we can do will some up and have some effect.

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We do what we can. We use our own bags at the store 99% of the time (sometimes we forget them, even though we have a set for each car). We give away stuff that we no longer need on Freecycle. We just rearranged things and I have more stuff that's going.

I recycle everything I can and keep the thermostat as low as possible. Thankfully this place is really insulated well. We've been able to keep everything off until a couple of days ago. For almost two months we didn't run a/c or heat.

Our next car is going to be a hybrid and I ride my bike whenever I can. I do that for pleasure as much as anything.

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I live in a really small town, with my work, DD's school and the grocery store all within a 2 mile trek. So my trips are easy, drop DD at school, go to work, get off at 2, go to the store if I need to, get DD from school, come home.

I generally go to a bigger discount type store to get all my non-perishables and stock up whenever they're on sale. Then I go about once a week to get perishables and forgotten items and such.

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i've tried shopping every two weeks, but what ends up happening is that second week, i don't want anything in the fridge. so we're better off going weekly instead of wasting food.

when i forget my reusable bags, i really don't like getting the plastic bags. if i can, i'll just carry whatever i bought out of the store or put it in my purse if it's large enough. i have a crapload of bags, no friends with dogs. and only two little waste cans.

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You know I didn't consider the bags, what i do is use them for garbage when i clean my yards, we have a lot of trees and well only 1 resident dog, but we do get to baby sit some from my friends, and since my doctor said I had to stay out of "the business" (I'm a Vet, alleric to dogs...yeah, I kmnow!) for at least 6 months (which has been almost a year now) anyway going back to the bags,the place i shop sometimes, depending on the person will give you way too many sacks, I usually have to tell them not to put one or two things in a sack, but with the amount of leaves and stuff I get out of my yard, it's worth it, and I also use the veggie bags when i walk my dog.....the puppies, well that is another story all together.

I use to do the every 2 weeks grocery shopping and actually got so good, I could actually go once a month, however, it meant no fresh produce so now I go once a week but it is really close to my home so, and I really don't drive that much, I guess my driving is limited to grocery store and going to the doctor...which is...wow i really need to get out of the house more.....make new friends or get some new interests.....ok, snap out of it, grocery bags and recycleing should be mandaroty, because I figure that a good amount of the world polution comes from plastic, in the form of bags and bottles, here we actually get floods due to the stuff clogging up the street drains.

Curve side recycleable garbage shouldalso be mandatory, because well, we have topay for the pick up and the bins, so why not? I mean, where I live they came by 3 times a week, but to be honest with you, I don't make enough garbage for 3X a week garbage pick up, but it sure would be nice if I didn't have to drive across town to recycle the newspapers, plastics, glass and cans. Not to mention it would clear up the "recycling corner". LOL.

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I try to do groceries once every two weeks, so when I walk in with the reusable bags, there are a lot of bags. But it is worth it, because I don't have so many plastic bags left over and try to use them for other things. Like little garbage bags, sending them to school for teachers to use (especially for the little grades, wet clothes and such) I have gotten a few odd looks, but most people in my area are now using the reusable bags. When I purchased Shrek 3 I got a reusable bag for free. Gotta like that when they start to give them away.
Water where we live tastes like chlorine in the winter and algae in the summer. I purchase bottled water, and the containers are recyclable. The area we used to live in (and why I bought the cooler) had a water ban on in the summer and usually a boil water all the time. Due to contaminants in the water. Blast the corporations and their pollutants into our systems. And we were on a well system, not city water.
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When I started using my reusable bags I use to get weird looks also. But since I usually shop in the same places (walmart and Albertson's) it seems people got used to it. In fact I don't care much about people looking. But I will tell you something, the cashier at Walmart loves the fact that I bag my groceries and this way she gets a break! LOL

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Here the water doen't taste like anything but it does have alot ofminerals so we have to keep cleaning out teapot and coffee pots cause the "tartar" ( that's what it looks like) sticks to the sides of the pots, anyway I don't know why they don't make returnable bottles or make them refillable......

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I remember when bottled water first hit the midwest. My great grandpa was still alive, he must have been 80 or so. He said "That will never sell...who would pay $1 for water when you can turn on the tap and get it for free" LOL Now look at it!

Our water tastes awful here :( We have a house filter and a fridge filter and it still doesn't taste good :( But I compromise by getting our drinking water in gallon jugs and reusing them. When I drink water at home I usually put some crystal lite in it or something.

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Welllts see,we have changed all thelights bulbs toefficency, w recycle all plastic, papaer and aluminium but since we don't have curve side pick up it tends to sit around until i get enough to warrant spending the gas to drive it across town to the recycle place.

I try to buy most of my stuff in glass I don't like the tripack thingy,I saw a program on discovery and it's almost imposible to recycle those things.

We can get soft drinks in glass bottles where i live,actually they deliver it to your house.

I must have missed the memo on thebottled water, i usually just drink it strait from the tap, sometimes i boil it, but that is usually only after heavy rains.


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We have largely-unnoticed bins at most area grocery stores to deposit used bags. They cannot legally reuse them. There is one company that melts them down and makes bus benches out of them.

We have a couple of Aldi grocery stores in town. They sell their bags, 5c for paper, 10c for plastic, and the plastic bags are large, sturdy, and reusable. At Aldi you bag your own groceries anyhow... you even have to use a quarter to get a shopping cart, and you get the quarter back by returning the cart to the cart parking area... In addition to the fact that Aldi has lower food prices than anyone, even the megalomart across the street, this makes it a truly modern shopping experience.

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I would think that the mega stores would benefit from selling reuseable bags. Can you imagine how much money they spend per day on bags alone? I imagine that it would be a pain for them to not have them fit on their bag holders though. They won't even do paper bags anymore because they're inconvenient. My hometown grocery stores still have paper bags and if I forget my reuseable ones I ask for paper because those bags are generally made out of recycled paper, are recycleable (without polluting too much) and don't take 6,000 years to break down!

I heard that one of the large cities in California maybe? was passing a law banning plastic sacks from the whole town. They will also chargelike 5 cents/bag for using paper bags - trying to influence people to buy reuseable bags. I wish more towns would do that...

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Hmmm well, I have a Waterpik faucet water filter (research shows that Waterpik filters better than Brita and Pur), so don't buy bottled water. I still don't understand why bottled water is worse than bottled soda -- people using bottled water are doing it in stead of the sodas they used to drink, by and large. And the process of making sodas produces more junk in our rivers than water does...

I would myself stay away from aluminum cans. Some researchers state that aluminum is the major cause of alzheimers... the ones who refute this are the same people who keep telling us how safe the new drugs are, so I don't listen to them much... I have changed all my pots and pans to cast iron and stainless steel.

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okay... i've bought now four reusable bags from giant eagle. i love that they have them and i don't have to take a gajillion plastic bags. on occasion though i shop at the local megalomart (walmart) and i swear i get the dumbest look when i take my recyclable bags in there. this week i went to trader joe's and it was fine. i wonder why it's so hard at the cheaper stores. you'd think they would want people to reuse bags to lower their costs.

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Hi MOss,

well, I am going to keep using the light bulbs, not if only for principles...

We don't have curb recycling in the city that I live either, but different from you, I do have a car (in this area life is impossible wihtout one) and the recycling plant is on my way to work. so it works ok for me.

I am trying to improve a few areas in my life without becoming paranoid. We stopped using bottled water and when there is the option we prefer buying liquids on aluminum cans... Simple stuff like that. Oh! We stopped using plastic bags (at the supermarket) about one year ago....

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I've heard that from one person before. I don't know what it is. Suffice it to say that light is not your highest power usage element.

I have fluorescents throughout my house, except for one socket that it didn't fit into. As I am on Disability, I get a utility allowance. The historical power usage for this apartment is much higher than my current electric bill, and I am always ahead on the power bill.

Now if I could just do something about my water/sewer/trash bill. Wish we had recycling here. (Those of you who say I could do my own recycling, remember that I've recently had foot surgery and do not own a car. The nearest public recycling facility is 5 miles away and not on a bus route, and right now I can't get down to the bus stop anyhow.)

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I try to recicle/reuse everything I can. I changed thngs slowly and saw our amount of trash that really goes to the traseh be reduced fantasticaly!

Now regarding the efficient light buls.. I changed all the light bulbs in the apartment for ficient ones abot one year ago. I did not see any dorp of consumption of energy at all. not one single Kwatt. I was really surprised...

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No matter how long or short their life, so long as it is 2+ years, you will save on your energy bill and help preserve the Earth.

If I could afford to spend $80 for a good LED light bulb, I would... they last over 60,000 hours (say, probably the rest of my life) without dimming, and use about 3 watts (opposed to 12-15 for the CFBs and the full 60 for an incandescent).

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uh oh... does that mean the bulbs i just bought that claim to last 10 years will really only make it five, if that? curses!

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Compact fluorescents are often brighter than regular bulbs when new. The bad news is, they tend to dim after about 2 years... yeah, they are supposed to have a 5-year life, but after 3 years you'll be squinting again. Even so, they're cheaper to run than regular lights.

Some of my really die-hard ecological friends do NOT use CFBs, because of the mercury content (and no sound disposal policies). Some vendors have found ways to reduce mercury use in newer bulbs, but it's still there.

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moss, that is an excellent idea. i have two other friends (one of whom is my son's father) and we sometimes share things that we don't use often. we were thinking of getting a steam cleaner to share because what sense does it make to have three? i also want to grow my own herbs at home, maybe get into community gardening at the conservatory next year and grow some other things. save some $$, develop a hobby, and generally get active in a different way.

i would car pool, but my hours are sometimes erratic, i can think of only one person who works my way and i have to take my son to band practice by 7 a.m. three days a week. i thought about public transportation as well, but columbus' system is awful. and i live close to the outskirts of the metro area. i'm trying to figure out a schedule that would work, reduce the amount of driving i do and allow me to at least take public transit one or two days a week. plus, i'd be less stressed and have a chance to finish reading books.

i disconnected my cable. i notice that since i have, we don't watch NEARLY as much tv and i don't use my laptop as often. my son actually goes outside to play with his friends for hours and i find other things to do. at first i thought it would be horrible, but we decided that we'd watch one movie each night and maybe more on the weekends.

i don't know if anyone else experienced this, but my spiral bulbs in the kitchen are MUCH brighter than the regular bulbs.

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Moss, that's such a comfortable idea...will our stuff to a community sharing center so it will be appreciated. I have no kids and I'm sure my dogs don't want my books. I'd be nice to know that there was a place for the stuff I'm so ridiculously attached to (and may help someone else in their path)...that's really something to think about...

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I don't own a car. Wish I at least had a scooter The CFC (spiral bulbs) work fine for me. I know the good LED light bulbs are expensive, but if you have a problem with power outages, they should not be affected by that.

But I could never get rid of my books. Unless I knew someone I trusted who had a library.

Maybe we should develop communities where the community owns (or stewards) many things which are safeguarded in a central location; if someone moves on, their books or other items could be returned for the journey...

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We have gone down to one car in our family. I car pool with my girl friends to get groceries once every two weeks, and do errands with them as well.
I use organic cleansers, and am looking at organic shampoos and body washes. Unfortunately I have an allergy to tea tree oil, and that is a common ingredient in many cleaners. I have started researching making my own.
We can not use the spiral bulbs, it was mentioned by another poster that the power fluctuation short them out, yep we have that issue. And they are too costly to keep replacing. So I have working bulbs in everyother pot light in the basement, and the ceiling lights have 2 instead of 3 working in them. I don't mind less light.
My hardest time is the winter, seasonal depression. There are new bulbs that can be purchased (almost 10$ a bulb) that help with seasonal depression, as they mimic the natural summer light. I would love to get those, but it is a lot of money to spend on a bulb.
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We've been moving toward a simpler life for years, but it takes time (and in some cases money). We use the wierdo lightbulbs - it took a few months of buying bulbs to get everything switched over, but we've been using them for a while now, so it's not an inconvenience since we don't have to replace them often. I bought reusable grocery bags to use at the grocery store, which is cool.

We need to get the plastic put up soon too. I'd like to get new windows put in, but there is the $$ problem rearing its ugly head again! We did reinsulate recently though, so our house is good on that front. As well as when we need new appliances we're getting efficient ones.

Although we still have a tv, stereo, dvd's, computer, etc... we use them alot less these days. We are attending taekwondo as a family, and playing more board games and reading. So, even though we have those electronics they aren't being used nearly as much.

I am learning about organic body care and organic cleaning. I think the fewer chemicals that our bodies come into contact with, the better.

I would like to simplify the vehicles in our family. We have 2 motorcycles, a truck (used mainly for menards trips and recycling center trips), a SUV (I had to have a tall enough vehicle because I have trouble getting out of cars now), a small car for hubby to drive around town, and 3 antiques. PHEW!! I'd like to get a hybrid SUV, but we aren't in the financial situation to buy a new car. We're going to sell one motorcycle, and probably one antique car next year. But we have to keep the truck because we're the only one in our family with a full-size truck, and hubby and I both need cars because we work such different hours. UGH

Good topic! I love hearing all the ideas!

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I was born with the clutter bug. We were fairly poor when I grew up (although I always had what I needed...Love you Mom!), so when I started working the buying of stuff began.

20 years later the stuff has to go. To me it's emotional clutter. While I've curbed the shopping (save $ for organics!), I still have stuff I'm emotionally attached to in an almost unhealthy way. Let it go, me! I often give friends stuff when they come over and I think they're waiting for the suicide note. Far from it - stuff should be in the hands of people who need or really appreciate it.

My spirituality has helped my let go of some of this stuff, as has flylady.net. I'm definitely trying to simplify...

DeVa, I'm getting that icky plastic again, too...I hate it but it works!

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right now i'm thinking about trading my car in for a smaller car. i currently own an altima and am looking at either a toyota corolla, toyota yaris or honda fit. the problem is i am still paying on the altima and know the trade value is less than what i owe. so that will have to wait.

i will replace all the bulbs this week. i started with four in the most used spaces, which is about half our house lights. hopefully my electric bill goes down. i don't know what to do about the heat because our windows suck, but i suppose we'll go ahead and get that plastic again.

i'm always giving or throwing things away. i don't buy books unless i've read them first and know that they will be a reference later in life. i've tried to stop having the junk mail sent to my home, but ironically i still keep getting them. i'd like to check out some options for faucets and shower heads because i love a good shower and i wash dishes all the time (i HATE dirty dishes piling up... ick). i just want to be able to say i've done all i can to help preserve the planet and teach my kid to be the same way.

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I found a source for inexpensive (comparatively) LED light bulbs. They were supposed to be Bright White, about the same as a 60 watt bulb. They were bluish, and about as bright at two night lights.

I have found some which claim to be much brighter. They are about $80 per bulb. Yeah, you would likely never need to replace them, and the power consumption would be way down... but I don't think I can handle that on my Disability check.

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I tried using the bulbs that are supposed to last longer, and burn less energy. The spiral ones. I had to stop using them though. I found that with the amount of power outtages we had in ontario, 9 times out of 10 everytime there was an outtage it was busting the bulb and it would never work again. That gets pretty expensive when you have to buy them everytime there is a power cut. (In ontario we were usually having minor power cuts on every other day.

I haven't tried it since moving to Quebec but may reconsider now that I know the power supply is more stable here.


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I'm using flourescents throughout the house now. We need to replace a bunch of the fixtures for higher efficiency bulbs, but that'll have to wait a bit.

I'd love to find plans for making LED light bulbs for standard lamp sockets. They're just too expensive to buy on a librarian's pay.

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For me, being consistently broke is enforcing my desire to live simply.
However, before I moved into my apartment I went through everything I owned, and if I did not absolutely need to keep it or wasn't attached sentimentally, I boxed it up and took it to goodwill. I got rid of an entire carload of stuff that way, and some of it was nearly brand new!

The collection of horse figurines that I had started back when I was 12 got sent along, too. I loved the idea that some little horse-crazy girl was going to have a chance to own some nicer figurines...

Right now I have books, music and this PC that I consider superfluous. The rest is basic stuff like clothes, shoes (one pair of work shoes, one pair of dress shoes, one set of sandals), and other necessities. I don't even own a hairdryer!

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Hi all, I too have switched to the new hi efficiency lite bulbs through out my entire house & saw our electric bill drop by nearly $30 in 1 month. I go through our house several times a year trying to weed out things we don't use as frequently as they should be. You know, that " well maybe I'll need it someday, kind of stuff. I put those on FreeCycle. Let someone else make use of them. And free up some of my space. I try to use the philosiphies of feng shui as much as possible.

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It's something I am thinking about for sure although I don't think I will ever completely get there because I love my book/movie/cd collections and they are the only things I really do for entertainment.



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Hi. I am doing my best to begin living this way. People seem so confused when I talk about what I want. I am in the process of downsizing my stuff. I love the idea of simplicity, but with kids, it is tough. Maybe when they are gone. But until then, I am continuing a little at a time. Maybe they won't notice that way!

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i've been reading up lately on voluntary simplicity as a way of life (living on what you need, not amassing stuff because you can). does anyone live this lifestyle? i want to get there, but it would require a lot of changes and while i've made a few (energy efficient light bulbs, recycling/reusing things, etc.), i would like to know if anyone has already been down the road to making a lifestyle change.

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