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Some people like to write detailed outlines - can you imagine how easy it will be for her to complete her first draft? If she has the skin with withstand the mean people, that is.

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My outlines are about 1 sentence per scene, which comes out to 3-4 sentences per chapter.

When my outline is ready, I put it on notecards, then write from those. One scene per card. I just write a scene, flip to the next card, and write that scene. As long as I can make myself sit down and actually put the words on paper, it goes pretty fast.

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Anything becomes irritating with overuse.

Like in "50 Shades" when I was ready to strangle Ana's "Inner Goddess" before I was 1/3 through.

Of course, there was much, much more to hate about that book, but that's the one thing that just sticks with me.

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Work has been so crazy lately, and with the Greece debacle, it's not going to let up any time soon. I'm off to Atlanta this week, Mexico City later this month, and then Frankfurt in September. Everyone wants numbers and predictions and I've got nothing to tell them. It's an unprecedented development and all I can say for sure is that every projection will be wrong--it's just a matter of HOW wrong.

On the writing front, I've gotten rejections from four more markets on my short stories, but one of them was a good rejection from Asimov's. They liked the writing and the world-building, but ultimately, it was too long for their needs.

I'm also considering taking a class in revising fiction. It's a 14-week intensive workshop designed to take a draft novel to publication-readiness. The one thing that's holding me back is all the travel I have planned. I might have to put that workshop off until 4th quarter, if the instructor offers it again.

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"Smirk" is a great word to use when describing other characters' expression while staying in POV, so I can see why many authors cling to it like a lifeline. However, 34 times is a bit much! That would just downright irritate me if I read that a character(s) smirked. I mean, is that the only emotion he has?

But I also notice that in my writing and other writing I've edited, sometimes there is a word that you just get stuck on. I was editing a friend of mine's chapter and she used the "again" about ten times. I just highlighted the word and when I gave the chapter back to her she said "Wow, didn't realize how much I liked that word" So, your author might just be in a smirking mood :)

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Some people like to write detailed outlines - can you imagine how easy it will be for her to complete her first draft? If she has the skin with withstand the mean people, that is.

As for smirk, I'm okay with its use, as long as it's appropriate. Too many times I see someone smirking in a tender situation, which just makes the whole exchange sarcastic instead.



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outline every page? yes that must have been fun

it does not matter how slow you go as long as you do not give up

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Anal retentiveness meets OCD: read where a newbie writer just finished her outline for her first novel. 153 pages of outline. She received A ton of sarcastic comments, one or two helpful suggestions. Seems she had been lied to and told that every page needed to be outlined. Bet she was fun in her high school composition classes.



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I do great non fiction -- I try but don't seem to get fiction

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Someone was careless:

In "Deserves to Die" by Lisa Jackson, page 147, a character thinks to herself that she is a "damn good corporate attorney" but on page 201 a detective describes her as "...a consultant. An engineer. Worked with road crews."

So, was she an attorney or an engineer? Guess we'll never know.

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I 'finished' first draft of first three chapters. I had originally planned on centering my novella around 5 characters. My reader wrote me that he had counted 8 characters that all had contributed clues or were potential suspects.
I wonder what part of my imagination the extra 3 sprang from? Now I'll need to ad them to my character trait list? I guess I could have them fall into a sink hole or accidentally wander in front of a firing squad, if I don't like them.




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started with my weight loss journey and wrote about my weight loss goals

it does not matter how slow you go as long as you do not give up

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To me, it's a sign of the writer's and the editor's (if there was one) carelessness.

The two phrases I keep running across multiple times in mystery books, including those from major publishers, are "pulled a face" and "shot a look" both of which must be the phrases of current times.

In the book I am editing now, the writer uses versions of "nod" and "dude" and okay" so many times I want to scream. Maybe I will ~~ emoticon stop!

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While writing my Opus #1, I have been reading quite a lot of Indie books to see what I could catch before sending my baby to the editor.

Some of it is surprisingly good, while some is regretfully awful.

One of the irritating things I've come across is the use of the word "smirk". Ten minutes ago I finished wading through a book where the author used that word 34 times!

Has smirk become the cool new word to use, dude & dudettes? Or is it just the gross ignorance of someone who slept through English classes, decided they didn't need a creative writing class and never learned to use Spell Check or Grammar Check in Word?

This inquiring mind would like some input.

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Need to begin writing chapter 4



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My goal is to write today -- about my weight loss journey

it does not matter how slow you go as long as you do not give up

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Jumping on the writing train today.

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thanks -- I love typos!!

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Reading James Patterson's thoughts on writing the first line and opening paragraph.

It's helpful.



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We also 'wrig' here in the Ozarks.





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its time for me to stop talking and start wriging

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I just got back from a trip to San Francisco and Eureka, CA. I didn't get any writing done, but I took dozens of pictures and got a ton of location and character info. I will have to use the redwood forest as a setting, I know.

Also, I had four people-strangers-compliment my hair. One drunk guy in the Eureka Walgreens stopped to pet it. He's lucky I've learned to temper my karate instincts a bit. Instead of a broken wrist, he only got a quick upward block and a stern look.



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*laugh* Perfect!



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And don't make it easy for your characters. :)



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thanks I'll do that

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Just take any average situation. Then ask What could go really wrong, or What if - ?
Then free write your answers. No rules, just Write.



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This is just so I can get this out there -- I have always had problems developing my fiction. I understand that it takes time to develop things like that. I have a great imagination though

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Good response, MYLIBERTY.

One of my readers is like me: I don't want or need a lot of character physical description. Just give me a few hints, my imagination will take care of the rest.
Another reader wants everything described. She is not known for her imagination abilities, But she can teach a proofreader about grammar, sentence structure. Both of my readers strengths are very helpful.



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i will go to the creativy web site

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I have always told my students that their opinion is very valuable, but that they must support any opinion with fact. It is like a lawyer going before the judge. He can say that the defendant is guilty, but without fact the judge will not rule in his favor.



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Good source of writing information:

www.creativity-portal.com/howto/writ
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How do you know you're NOT the only defense for your opinion if you don't share it?



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makes a lot of sense -- and so I will remember it.

This writer's group is my way of writing and making sure I do a good job

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One convention of the Essay/Oratory: 'Everyone's has an opinion, but if you are the only defense for your opinion, keep it to yourself.'
This was the first rule my students had to Learn, and the most difficult.



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Right now I am just writing things that are based on my opinions. I am in a writer's group and so I am writing something each week so I have something for this group

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Okay, so you essay writers do it because you have something to say on a particular subject. Yes? I mean, I have opinions and stuff, but I don't write them down that way - I'm more likely to spout off in 140 characters on Twitter. :)



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I did some snooping. It depends if you are writing for the general public or a specific group. The general public 'rules' are very basic, like the definition. But if your writing to a specific interest group, then the definitions are all over the place, even down to the education level of the readers vocabulary, "our subscribers have at least a undergraduate degree". But that does make some sense.



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I could not figure out the Atlantic Web site so can't help you there

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True.
I wonder if the Atlantic Monthly definition of essay, differs from that of The Nation?



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The definition does not distinguish. Anyone can add their interpretation.


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That Definition sounds cut and dried. There are satiric, and humorous essays that can make the same point a serious essay can make.



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Dictionary.com =

Essay: a short literary composition on a particular theme or subject, usually in prose and generally analytic, speculative, or interpretative.

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thanks -- that helps me know that I have a good definition

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GWYNLEE2 -
When I taught Competitive Speech, that was the definition I had my students use when they were sketching out their Oratory ideas. Oratory is a spoken essay: 50% opinion, 25% persuasive delivery, 25% evidence.



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thanks. to me, and this is just my definition of essay, is something I write to express my ideas on something. Perhaps what I am writing about is more of an opinion piece -- based on facts or information that is true.

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emoticon Gwynlee2.


I love to study the origin of words. Did you know that the word bus began as a word meaning cargo section of the ship? Its meaning evolved to mean the four wheeled vehicle it is today. I can see how that happened. The cargo of a ship was often people and the cargo of a bus is also people.

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No, I mean, I had heard under the weather. I hadn't heard the origin. Sorry for the confusion!

Okay, can someone explain essays to me? I always think of school assignments. Is it just your thoughts on a subject?



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wrote an essay today -- and started my short story

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Must be our geographical location. I grew up hearing that phrase. It meant you were Really ill.



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How interesting Lou.

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I never heard that before either

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I hadn't heard that one before, Lou! Neat. :)



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interesting. I have written a couple of essays. need to start writing the short story floating in my head

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"Under the weather" is to be unwell. In the old days, when a sailor was unwell, he was sent down below to help his recovery, under the deck, and away from the weather.

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With the boom in e-publishing, both readers and publishers are branching out.

It used to be, novellas and longer stories weren't worth the paper used to print them.

When the paper isn't a factor, there are a lot more options.

Longer stories, shorter novel and novellas, even very short stories have a place where they wouldn't even just a few years ago.

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Go you!

Meanwhile, mine are around 90K...



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Times do change; I was reading an article from WD 2007, an agent wrote that if you were writing a 'long short story' 10k - 20k words, or a novella, 20k - 50k words, file it away, no agency is seeking them. But in a recent on-line agent's seeking article, of the 15 agent's listed only 3 were not seeking stories of those lengths.
Which I like, since my current WIP will be in the novella range.



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just to say hi

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glad you are able to go indie!!

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I've been a member for ages but haven't posted here in a very long time. I have my first freelance interview assignment and as much as I'm excited - I haven't really done many interviews before. Any tips or suggestions on prep, questions or anything else for that matter? I'm my own worst enemy on this one I'm afraid.

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I' m getting some good encouragement from reviewers on Writing.com to consider publishing my stories.
I have a relative that went Indie/vanity did OK for a while then publisher changed ownership and he got royalty screwed. So now he does his own publishing.
E-Pub looks inviting. Time to take a big step of faith, I guess?

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just ot say hi

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Thanks, Lou, for the information and the laughs.



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very interesting. enjoyed them

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More proofreading humor. It continues to frustrate me that so many errors are made in so many books today, and the authors praise their editors. Here are more examples:

One latest read was "The Bone Seeker" by M.J. McGrath.

* ...and rested her hand on her hips. (So, one hand rests on both hips?)

* ...sat by himself on an old La-Z-Boy staring at an NFL game between the Maple Leafs and the Jets.

(NFL = National Football League. The Toronto Maple Leafs are a hockey team in the NHL = National Hockey League. The NY Jets are a football team.)

* She sat on the floor and bedded in. (Say what? What does that mean?)

* The questions she wanted answering were... (Instead of answered.)

* ...sparked up the engine.
* ...keyed the engine.
* ...keyed on the engine

(Instead of being cute so often with the engine terms -- about a dozen of these) it would have been much less distracting if she cut these out and didn't feel a need to explain everytime an engine was started.)

* Pulled a face

(Huh? A common usage among popular mystery writers today instead of made a face or grimaced or had a look of doubt, etc., on someone's face but what does it mean to 'pull' a face?)

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thanks for sharing very interesting

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Q: Where do we get the phrase, "Look before you leap?"

A: This phrase alludes to Aesop's fable about the fox who is unable to climb out of a well. He convinces a goat to jump in, climbs on the goat's horns to get out, while the goat remains trapped. Today it means "Think before you act."

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Q: Where does the phrase, "Everything but the kitchen sink" come from?

A: From 1944 WWII in armed forces slang, referenced intense bombardment. Out for blood, our Navy threw everything but the kitchen sink at Japanese vessels, warships and transports alike.

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we have a used Singer sewing machine in the basement -- I have a pattern that I want to amke -- my girlfriend was going to help me and show me how to sew. I should contact her about that

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I watch project runway, does that count?



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I taught myself to sew the year my son wanted a Gambit costume for Halloween.

No one sells Gambit costumes, or the pieces to put together a Gambit costume. I'm talking Gambit from the 90s X-Men cartoon, with the purple chest armor and the silver boots.

I bought a Brother sewing machine and "Sewing for Dummies" and went to work. My brother-in-law made playing cards that glow with LED lights when you press them the right way. It was a totally awesome costume.

This year, it's Kaylee from Firefly for me, a Jedi robe for my son and a Green Lantern/Jedi mashup for my husband.

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:) well I did have to take sewing in 8th grade -- does that count?

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I was taught to sew. But I never learned it. :)



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never learned to sewe.

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I've been a lazy bum lately.

Actually, my spare time has been spent sewing Comic Con costumes, so it's not wasted, just not spent writing.

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yea --- I need to work on my short story and figure out how that ends

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I can't wait to find out how I'm going to end my short story!



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still working on my "short story" and have an idea for my next essay -- and I will need to do some research for the essay

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Seriously thinking about my next story being in the noir style of the 1950's, when noir was really noir.
Probably a PI story. The protag is more anti-hero than hero. He or she has a few redeeming points, but there's always a chip (or log) on their shoulder.
The antag is only bad because they have so much personal baggage they blame others not themselves.





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i started working on my very first short story :) it's an idea I have been bouncing around in my head for ages.

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Working on the final part of my SS. I've just 'discovered' that it can be easier to create Conflict than to resolve it! Need to figure out how to untie this really cool Gordian Knot I've created.
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I am so envious of you all --- I have always had an interest in writing but it has only been the past year or so that I have actually tried doing it seriously. And I am trying my first piece of fiction. I will succeed

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Ha! I hate it when that happens! in Who Wants to Marry a Doctor, I had my antagonist being led and encouraged by her boyfriend. One beta reader told me - you don't need him. And it only took me about an hour to edit him out of the MS. She was so very right.



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I did something I shouldn't have: I had originally given my Protag a couple of sidekicks, one for comic relief and bodyguard, the other as an on again off again love interest and engineer.
For some reason both of them have decided not to make an appearance. Since my rough is pretty much finished, my Protag has gotten along fine without them.
So much for outlining and character bio's.



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yes thanks for the ideas

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You have all given me some good ideas. I really love reading the tips that you all give and the struggles that you are dealing with because I share many of them also.

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As for the glossary - I think I'd leave it out. Hopefully you put in enough contextual clues that your reader can figure out what you're talking about.





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I should finish the final part of my Sci-Fi short story.
Then I'll put it away for a few days, and go back and start killing 'babies'.
In the mean time, I'll work on a new FF story for my portfolio on Writing.com.

"Do you know what I did when I finished my first novel? I shut-up and started writing 20 more." Michael Connolly said that.



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you are probably correct

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I was looking through some books on the shelves at B&N, and the public library. Several of the Sci-Fi published in the last few years had a glossary either in the front or back.
I'm thinking that it might be an agent's or publishers decision to include a glossary.



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i have never heard of that before --- not sure if you need to do it or not

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I'm having fun writing pulp sci-fi since it bears vague resemblance to modern sci-fi. I do have a question: in the 30's & 40's pulp writers used a lot of invented words. But did not define them. Fun stuff. In modern sci- fi they usually provide a glossery for made up words. Is that something I need to do?



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