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1/28/13 11:56 A

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Hi...Jude, don't think we will be joining you in Sept. It would be fun too but we will either be coming back to Colorado then or already back to Pennsylvania or we will be permanency in Colorado. We are kind of on the downward slope of full time rving. Someday we will sell our Class A motorhome and get something smaller to just go camping in. Then we will be boondocking and using a propane/elec fridge again!!!!!

Cathy...how awful about your inverter. How awful to watch all the hard work and planning go up in smoke! Just when you think you got things right something else happens!! Let us know how the repair goes. Will you have to buy a new inverter? Was this the motorhomes inverter or did you have a serperate one for the solar panels?

We had/have one fire extinguisher mounted just inside our front door. The second one is now just sitting on the floor in the kitchen next to the sink. The third by the bed. We have never tried to exit out the escape window in our bedroom. I have often wondered how that would be. A long drop for sure. We know the window opens and closes fine as we have tested it. Getting umpteen pillows out of the way would be the task!!! I did not know that about a Winnebago's window. Can't believe it!!!! We talked about what to take quickly if we had to exit. Computer thumb drive and Bibles!

Our fridge was not on the recall list either. We had called Norcold to verify too. (2002 Beaver Sanitiam made by Monaco)

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1/21/13 12:24 A

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Betsy, I just read your posts - yowser!!! Our MH is 10 yrs old & has a Norcold. There were recall notices for the fridge in our other motorhome, but I don't know about this one - was yours on a recall list? We have one small fire extinguisher, and it's in the corner of the "toilet" room - not a very convenient place for it.

One more shout out to all of you - make sure you mentally and/or physically plan your escape from your motor home - hard to believe you would remember it in an emergency, but it makes a huge difference. Do you know which is your escape window from your bedroom? Can you and all your occupants make it out of the window and down to the ground outside, or do you need a chair on the inside, blankets to be used as a rope to reach the ground? You can test your escape from some RVs, but for Winnebagoes, you can't, because once you open the escape window, it costs big bucks to put it back the way it was, so make sure you check that out before doing a physical test.

We got to Quartzsite last night, after dark, and just pulled into a spot that was convenient. Today I got DH to turn on the inverter (allows use of the solar power stored in the batteries to be used as electricity) - this would be our first major use of the setup after the installation of 3 solar panels, the inverter, and a bunch of other stuff needed for the solar setup in our "new to us" 2003 Winnebago Adventurer. Well, the inverter BURNED UP. Sparks and lots of smoke. DH installed it, tested it, apparently everything worked before. And DH was right there, watching it happen, so there was no danger to us. But we're pretty disappointed, I'm wondering if DH did something wrong with the install (don't tell him I said that, tho).

It's beautiful here, the weather is perfect. The rest of the scene is about like always. It's especially delightful for anyone who loves RVing, rocks, beads, etc. Boondocking here is cheap or free, but the rest of the goods (except for the stuff at the flee markets) are priced higher than what you would pay at WalMart or online - you just have to know your prices and what something is worth to you. Anyone who wants to meet up, just let me know - we'll be here a few days, maybe a week.

Good night, all. Cathy

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1/19/13 10:41 A

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Betsy.... Believe me we thought long and hard before buying the dual RV fridge, but had to bite the bullet as we like to boondock and when out sightseeing in the hotter parts of the US we put the fridge on LP as we have been caught in a couple of "brownouts" and come home to a warm fridge. :( Sure wish we could have got an electric one tho...they are so much bigger and the bottom freezer on the one we were considering was awesome. Will definately be getting one when we don't travel so much. Glad you like yours...I envy you.:)

Our MH is 10 years old this year too.....nice and broken in!

Are you going to be able to join us in SD in Sept? Sounds like it will be a lot of fun. Hope you can make it.

Jude

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1/19/13 9:39 A

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Hi everyone!
Thanks for all the well wishes. It was also surprising to read how many of you have heard of someone else having a fire in the fridge. I never thought it would happen to us because I felt confident about the safety of our fridge!

I agree boondocking with an electric fridge would not be ideal. We have a quiet Onan on board generator we can run if needed. We have boondocked in the past but that part of of lifestyle is behind us now. If it weren't we would have had to pay over $3,000-$4,000 for a new rv fridge. Ours was a 10 cf. If I was planning on boondocking I would have had to buy the rv type fridge.

Our rig is 10 years old now. Low mileage. Our fridge was very reliable (as most are!) until it stopped working. And when it did, everything got warm quickly, unlike a house fridge. I was really surprised at that. Within 6 hours my veggies in the freezer had thawed quite a bit. And things were feeling warmish in the fridge.

Hubby has secured the fridge with braces and brackets so I feel confident when we do get on the road again it was stay in place. Yes, I do wonder how it will hold up to potholes only the east-midwest highways!!!

I love having the extra 4 cubic feet of space!! Ahh.....

Did everyone check their smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors? Checked your fire extinguisher(s)? I recommend having more than one in differant locations!

Have a great day!
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1/18/13 6:25 P

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Envy those of you in Quartzite. A large Newmar group is there now and camped together. Wish we coule be there too :( Have fun.

Jude



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1/18/13 2:05 P

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Thanks Gisela for the info! I'm only a couple hours from Quartzsite. Another of our team is headed to Quartzsite as well. Maybe we can get together some time this season for an afternoon!

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1/18/13 1:10 P

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Hi. Sitting in Quartzsite now with lots of friends. Most of Quartzsite is boondocking but the town does have full hookup parks. It also has water, dump and propane stops for all the boondockers. For those with electric fridges, many run small honda generators during the day but don't need to run them at night. Most RVs with electric fridges come with more batteries. SiInce there have been so many RV fires, many RVers are going to alternatives.

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1/18/13 11:18 A

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I understand thousands go to Quartzsite every winter as it's very cheap. I believe it's all boondocking though and I'm not sure that appeals to me. I enjoy my full hook ups.

I think Cathy (SPEEDOXXL11) can answer any questions you may have as they go there and I think they will be there in a week or so.

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1/17/13 10:53 P

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Thanks, ABB698! I have never been that far west. I have been in Utah and the northeastern corner of Arizona. Someday, will see more of the far West! Really want to see Yosemite!

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1/17/13 12:29 A

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Quartzsite is in Arizona, near the deserts/California border.

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1/16/13 8:35 P

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I agree, generators are noisy, not to mention expensive to run. We don't have one, as we have always camped in parks. I think a dual fridge (electric/gas) that switches over automatically is a real convenience and I wouldn't trade ours. It keeps our food nice and cold and we can rely on it.

Where is Quartsite? Never heard of that place, LOL! emoticon emoticon

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Txgrandma....ours is a dual fridge too, but we have friends that have electric only and we are wondering how travel will effect them after awhile. We go to Quartsite every year for the Newmars rally there and there are usually about 75 or so of us there. An electric only fridge would require you to run your generator all day and night. Wouldn't work for us...to much noise..:)

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1/15/13 10:11 P

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wow Thank you for the info so scary Glad you are all safe and thank you for the reminder about checking the fire extinguishers and alarms .

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Gypsy, you mentioned the poplularity of the electric refrigerators. DH and I went to the RV show in Fort Worth and of course they had all the latest things in RV's on display, and a LOT of them had the choice of only the total electric fridges. I like ours because it switches automatically to gas when we unplug the trailer. The salesman said though that the electric ones run off the RV battery when going down the road or boondocking. Of course, not too many people want to take their 60 to 100,000 dollar RV's boondocking! emoticon

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Betsy....We had our Norcold recalled and fixed twice. We had some Newmar friends that had theirs catch fire in the middle of the night and the thing that saved them was the fire melted the ice maker water line and the water from that put out the fire. We ordered our new fridge the next day....expensive, but better than replacing the whole MH. Didn't want an ice maker, but after their experience we got one :) We went with another Norcold, as they completely redid their units and had to have a big inspection done before the could use them and thought that would be better than an unknown unit. A few of our friends have gone to the all electric fridges as they are 1/2 the price of a dual ones, but we do a lot of boondocking and that wasn't an option for us. Also, wonder how long the home models will hold up if you do a lot of travel? I would love to have one. Maybe when we're not doing so much traveling.

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Betsy,
So glad you all survived and are okay! How scary, and thank you for warning the rest of us! Our friends are living in a 5th wheel with a Norcold fridge, they are always worried about the oven, but I will tell them to double check the fridge recall. Thank God for the fire extinguisher and a quick thinking hubby! Blessed for sure!

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We have a Norcold too but wasn't on the recall list. Fingers crossed.

What make of motor home do you have?

One of our club members was camping on a military base when the single lady camp ground host refrigerator caught fire. She was off shopping and for some reason she did not lock her motor home. Our friend went inside and rescued her two dogs. We were in the park a year later and chatted with her. She had the motor home redone and was living in it. From what our friend told us this camp ground host job was her permanent job and only source of income.

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Thanks so much for telling us your story! I have seen so many on You Tube that didn't have that happy an ending! We know some people whose fridge in their 5th wheel caught fire going down the road and they lost everything. They found out later it was their fridge that caught fire and caused the loss. Thank goodness, our fridge is a Dometic, but I still am ever watchful with it. It is shut off when sitting here in the driveway but I think about fires when we are out and using it.

So glad that you and hubby were prepared and blessed with a working fire extinguisher and the knowledge to use it!
I guess then, that you were able to save the RV and just put the residential fridge in it? emoticon

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Thank you so much for taking the time to share your story. I am so glad no one was injured, by the grace of God. You have given us wise advice and I hope everyone takes the advice to heart and follows up!

Thanks again!

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Just wanted to let everyone know about the fire we had in our motorhome's refrigerator.

We have a Norcold fridge/freezer. We have received recall notices on the fridge due to the possibility of it catching on fire. Our model number was not on the recall list. We had confirmed this by calling Norcold and giving them our model number.

We were aware of a class action lawsuit against Norcold too. After our fire we read through the lawsuit. It is stating the Norcold has known about this problem for years (sorry, don't have the facts in front of me now). The problem is that they knowingly replaced the defective part with the same defective part!!!! The defective part has resulted in over 2000 fires and one death.

Here's our story.

The afternoon after Christmas our fridge seemed to be losing its cooling abilities. By evening I had moved all the food, what would fit, into a small fridge we use for water, etc. The freezer things were moved to freezer shopping bags and put in our truck bed. Since it was freezing temps out we knew we would be okay for awhile. I had planned on going grocery shopping that morning but did not because it was snowing pretty heavy and we had enough food for a few days.

Soon after 10:00p.m. I heard a "pop" sound and soon the fridge starting beeping telling us that it had lost power!!! My husband hurried outside to check the "fridge"! Sure enough, when he removed the vent a flame was brewing! He hurried back to yell at me to get the fire extinguisher. Fortunately, we had one in working condition. He was able to put the fire out but we could see a flame behind the ammonia cylinder and we were concerned about where the fire may go if we really had not gotten it out completely. So, we called 911. Three fire companies (trucks) responded, three fire rescue vehicles, police, and ambulance !!! By now, the entire park was awake!! (Not many here in the winter)

They checked everything out. Went into the rig with gas masks on checking for gas levels. We had already turned off the propane. They turned off the main power to the rig!!! The volunteer fire departments were awesome!! They would not let us spend the night because of the ammonia gas leak and would not let us turn the power on. So, we packed a bag and went to a hotel. Since it was freezing temps out we were real concerned about the pipes freezing. But all was well there.

As for the fridge. Fortunately, the fire did not destroy anything outside (well, sort of) or inside the rig. We choose not to repair (ha ha) or replace it with a rv fridge. We now have a "house" fridge and love it!
We were very blessed in so many ways. I believe God spared us from spending money on groceries earlier in the day that we would have had to throw away, being home when the fridge went out, hearing the "pop" sound, having a working fire extinguisher, and a husband who acted quickly. Fortunately, we can write a happy ending story.

Fellow RV'ers.Check your fridge. If its a Norcold read about the lawsuit. Just beware. Also, be sure you have at least one working fire extinguisher. We had a very small one which we completely emptied. We had a second one but couldn't find it.(shame on us) We thought it was in the truck. We now have three extinguishers. One in the bedroom, one at the front door and one in the truck.
Also, check your smoke detectors and carbon dioxide detectors. Do a test.

And thank God every day for His protection over you!

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