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7/6/14 3:56 P

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Dogs on trails are bad news. In our area you must have a dog on a leash while on a trail. If someone lets the dog off and it darts across the trail the dog or human can be injured. I don't tolerate that, I like dogs to much to T-bone one on my bike and kill it or me. Carry halt.

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I had a close call early on in my cycling...had visions of the pooch winding round my neck a coupla times. Since then have always been wary of dog walkers and leashes! But at the same time I'm always feeling pretty magnanimous as, heck, they're here on the trail for the same reason I am: to enjoy the outdoors...and that's always a good thing! :-)

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7/6/14 1:41 A

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New pet peeve...walkers with dogs on long leashes which they allow to stretch across the trail... Or worse, loose dogs.

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7/5/14 1:15 P

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Not surprised to see that Alaska ranks #43. Winter alone puts us out of commission most of the year. Lack of road system in general. Motorists not used to seeing cyclists on the road year round.

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5/14/14 12:02 A

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I'm not surprised to see Minnesota still ranks in the top 10 list of per capita bike shops!

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5/11/14 10:40 P

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Hi Don,

Recreational cycling in playground states such as Colorado and Utah leads to those nice wide shoulders and a great infrastructure. Commuting cycling gets less support because there is not much revenue generated. However, tourist cruising along on rental bikes are an economic boon..

The downside is that healthy economies in playground states are experiencing explosive growth. This growth strains infrastructure even more. The fun wide open spaces that people move to the western states to enjoy is soon overrun by people. On nice weekends, there are many thousands of touring bikes on the pretty routes through the mountains and along the front range.

The number of bike shops is a great indicator of how many people enjoy the great outdoors. I talked to the owner of one of the mega-bike shops. She told me they sell 50 to 100 bikes a day during peak season. These are good bikes that are being bought by enthusiasts.

Mountain biking is big business also. I belong to the International Mountain Biking Association and Colorado Mountain Bike Association. We work with the U.S Forest Service and Colorado Parks and Recreation Division to build sweet trails. We are sponsored by local bike shops.

Like most cyclist here in Colorado, I am a road rider and a mountain rider. And what about Utah? I think Utah is even better!

Which came first, the cyclists. or the bike shops?

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Makes sense to me...many of the same contenders too, albeit different order. Maryland DOES have the Great Allegheny Passage and C & O Canal route going for it. I also saw quite a few cyclists around the Locust Point section of Baltimore while my son lived there for a bit.

Bike shops are one aspect. Road conditions are a a biggie for me. Wide shoulders, bike lanes, etc.

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5/11/14 9:33 P

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When I see rankings, such as the most "Bike Friendly" states, I always wonder what goes into the ranking process. Right off the bat I am skeptical. The rankings are done by a Washington DC-based bike advocacy group called "The League of American Bicyclists".

It appears the measurement of "bike friendliness" is the effectiveness of the State's bike advocacy group. Items like pro-bike legislation and money spent on bicycling infrastructure is the measure of a bike friendly state.

What? I had never heard of the "Bicycle Colorado" that is allegedly the Colorado bike advocacy group. These advocacy groups are dedicated to making the United States safe for bikes as transportation.

I was puzzled to see Maryland on the list of top 10 bike friendly states. I lived in Maryland for a couple of years. I don't recall ever seeing an adult riding a bike in Maryland. I do remember a lot of automobiles and horrendous rush hour traffic! I don't recall seeing a single bike.

I decided to do my own ranking based on a real indicator of bike friendliness. I looked at number of bike shops per capita! I just rearranged "The League's" top 10. Had I done all 50 states, I am sure some of these "top 10" states would fall like a brick to the bottom of the rankings!

I just think counting ineffective legislation and measuring taxpayer spending on bike "infrastructure" is a stupid method of determining bike friendliness.

My calculation is to take the number of bike shops in a state and divides by the population in millions, Here are the results.

1. Colorado (30.4 shops per million)
2. Utah (29.7 shops per million)
3. Oregon (15.1 shops per million)
4. Massachusetts (14.6 shops per million)
5. Washington (13,6 shops per million)
6. Minnesota (13.1 shops per million)
7. Wisconsin ( 9.5 shops per million)
8. California (7.7 shops per million) Note: California has 295 shops, which is the most, but has more people than Canada!
9. Delaware (7.4 shops per million)
10. Maryland (6.9 shops per million)

Now isn't this a better way to determine which state is the best place to ride? BTW, Colorado and Utah are so bike friendly that people from other states rent or buy bikes in Colorado and Utah just to ride there. A lot of shops in Colorado and Utah have huge rental fleets.

Colorado and Utah want your money! How more friendly can you get than that?

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Good to know, thx for sharing!

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I can not speak for the whole state, but the Research Triangle Area of NC seems very friendly to cycling, especially building green ways, trails, and dedicated bike lanes.

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Woo Hoo ANNEMARGAR to the bike commuting idea!

After I get off this anti-coagulant I'll be dusting off my cycling commute in June...at least on the days when I'm not working till dark.

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5/9/14 10:40 A

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Minnesota is like Wisconsin. It is really good where they have the trails and city. Like WI once you get to very rural parts it can be a little less friendly.

I love to go to Twin Cities and use the trails, as well as, go up Hippo hill.

Going from #3 WI to #2 MN is a big jump. Both are fun.

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Yeah - Maryland is in the top ten!! Now that means I need to start bike commuting on my two days I head to the office :)

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I'm a little surprised Minnesota is #2 not #1 given the number cyclists I see but maybe it's because I'm principally a runner and second a cyclist - maybe I need to switch and up the numbers!!

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HILLSLUG I think you're right, re: "If you know someone who rides, I think you're more conscientious." I also am fortunate in my commute (when I can resume it, counting the days...) as I'd peg almost half of it is paved park trails without traffic. But the parts where I share the road? Some of them are pretty hairy, especially the 5 miles from my house into Binghamton.

Oh, perhaps I DID read that wrong...I thought the higher numbers meant lower rankings...?

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I know that where I live in Illinois, people driving are pretty good/tolerant with the cyclists. That being said, we have a LOT of parks and trails around here and I see several cyclists on the sidewalks (myself included).
We aren't too far out of Chicago and traffic can be pretty heavy at times....some of the roads and intersections are HUGE as well. Including medians and turn lanes, some intersections are 10 lanes across....so its not for the faint of heart like me!

I mentioned drivers being tolerant of cyclists here because I see a LOT of cyclists who share the road who do NOT follow the rules of the road, just because I am on a bike does NOT give me the right of way at a red light.
Also, being Illinois, I must mention the motorcyclists as well. There is no brain-bucket law for bikers here. Just have to have your eyes shielded.
Some of the motorcyclists are terrible also, not trying to start any fights here, but if you are either biking or cycling, PLEASE be extra cautious on the road so no one has to come scoop your remains up.

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Don,

I see WI is number #3. It can be area specific. There are a few bike trails that have really helped.

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You ARE lucky, HILLSLUG! I LOVE Seattle and all of the surrounding areas. I dearly love Utah, my home state, but if given the choice of where I would travel, it is ALWAYS Washington! Such a beautiful area! I'm afraid, if I were a commuter in your area, I would be SOOO distracted by the beautiful scenery....I'd just keep pedaling, and never make it to work! emoticon

By the way, I was devastated to hear about the terrible mud slide and the sad, sad loss of life. Sending heartfelt sympathies for those affected by this tragedy. emoticon

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This is Washington's seventh year in the #1 spot. The State's Transportation Secretary is an avid cyclist, but even before she took office, Washington was committed to improving bike routes.

I've lived in the very-populated Puget Sound basin, tiny towns east of the Cascades, and two metropolitan areas in the eastern part of the state. Where I live now, the Tri-Cities, is the most bike-friendly place I've ever lived. I'd say 95% of motorists respect my right to be on the road. I've never had someone swerve into the bike lane next to me. People frequently wait the extra five or ten seconds to allow me to take the right-of-way when it's mine. They have this weird thing about moving into the on-coming lane even when I have a 6' wide bike lane. But I shouldn't complain about people moving further out of my way.

It helps that we have a high percentage of our population that are from somewhere else. A lot of people have come from areas where there are a lot of bike commuters. Although I'm the only bike commuter (that I know of) where I work, I frequently hear from others that they know someone else that commutes by bike. If you know someone who rides, I think you're more conscientious. Even my legal assistant admits she's a little more tolerant of cyclists because she knows I commute by bike. She's projected her feelings - she'd be devastated if I was injured by a motorist - onto the cyclist she encounters.

Oh, and one more "gee I'm so lucky!" point: 75% of my commute is on an asphalt path closed to motorized vehicles. I just have to dodge goose poop and the occasional river otter.

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Happy to see Utah in the top ten. Would love to see it continue to be even MORE bicycle-friendly for SO many reasons! emoticon

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Don, I think you are reading it wrong. Looks like NY jumped to 29 from 43! Im in OH and I'm so happy to see the new rank of 16 from last year's 32! A lot has happened this last year!

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The Most (and Least) Bike-Friendly States

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Top 10 States
1. Washington
2. Minnesota
3. Wisconsin
4. Delaware
5. Oregon
6. Colorado
7. Maryland
8. Utah
9. California
10. Massachusetts

I see New York has fallen in the rankings...sigh...

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